From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2002 #199 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Thursday, July 11 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 199 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Today in History: July 10 [ljirvin@adelphia.net] Re: Clouds and Both Sides [Relayer211@aol.com] Two Joni Moments in New Zealand! ["hell" ] re: (no subject) harry's house [FMYFL@aol.com] CD Problems ["Laurent Olszer" ] Quick poll [Lori in MD ] Re: "Passion Play", two kinds of JC! [Engwall57@aol.com] Re: new to list, cd problems? [Mary Casey ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 03:09:44 -0400 From: ljirvin@adelphia.net Subject: Today in History: July 10 1983: Joni performs at the Stanley Theater in Pittsburgh ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 07:24:28 EDT From: Relayer211@aol.com Subject: Re: Clouds and Both Sides Yes, I think "Clouds" is very underrated. Think of all the great songs, and how beautiful Join's voice was at that point.... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 23:31:13 +1200 From: "hell" Subject: Two Joni Moments in New Zealand! Kerry and I went to see Diana Krall and the Auckland Philharmonia in concert tonight. She was amazing (as expected), and in fine voice. We were hoping to hear A Case of You, but doubted very much that she'd play it, since (from what I've heard) she didn't seem to perform it on her recent tour of the US. BUT....... the lights dimmed, and one sole spotlight hit centre-stage. During her piano introduction, we weren't sure if it was or not, then....... "Just before our love got lost......" Wow! It was slightly different than her version for the Joni Tribute, but just as wonderful. And it was incredible to see and hear her perform it live! And just to make the night even better, when the lights went up for everyone to leave, Both Sides Now (from BSN) started playing over the sound system - two Joni-hits in one night, and in NZ! Who'd have thought it! Maybe we're a little more civilised than I thought! Hell ____________________________ "To have great poets, there must be great audiences too." - Walt Whitman hell@ihug.co.nz Hell's Personal Photo Page: http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hell/main/personal.htm Visit the NBLs (Natural Born Losers) at: http://www.nbls.co.nz ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 09:41:10 EDT From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: re: (no subject) harry's house Patrick wrote: <> << and she says something like...schools of yellow taxis...which i thought was a great lyric.>> "Yellow schools of taxi fishes", and yes it is a great lyric along with many good lines in the song << anyway, i guess it made me think that she was singing about selling out for the take home pay...only not really cause she can't sustain a lifetime waiting home for him...and that made me think about joni having a constant dual thing going with wanting to be the home body family person but ultimately seeking refuge of the road.>> In my opinion, for the past couple of years I think Joni wants to be more of the home body person (she even got a dog). Still, it's nice to think she might have a little refuge in her............start touring JONI Good to see you posting again Pat!!! Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 15:43:01 +0100 From: "Laurent Olszer" Subject: CD Problems Hi Mary, I agree with Jim, it's either scratches or your player in your case. Nevertheless, ever since CDs became available, I always heard they would eventually wear out. At the time people said the life expectancy was 10 years. So far I've had 1 CD wear out: it's a bootleg I played 1-2 times before and which won't play anymore. I've tried playing it on 3 different players to no avail. It's just dead. I've also compared an official CD which is about 15 years old with a new pressing and the new one is much better. The new pressing has NOT been remastered, and it's NOT a HDCD either, so they should be the same but they're not. So, perhaps we should all start making copies of our CDs? Laurent ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 06:52:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Lori in MD Subject: Quick poll No njc tag on purpose (please forgive me if you're offended) ... How many JMDLers have served in the military? (Active duty, reserve, guard, whatever.) Please respond to me privately. Thanks! Lori in MD ~ New! SBC Yahoo! Dial - 1st Month Free & unlimited access ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 11:53:05 -0400 From: Engwall57@aol.com Subject: Re: "Passion Play", two kinds of JC! Thanks for your analysis of Passion Play! It was very helpful. One thing I really like is Joni's rhetorical question, "Who are you going to get to do the dirty work, when all the slaves are free?" I think it is a very good question she asks. If everyone were liberated and treated as worthy human beings, who would do the dirty work? I free-associate that question with "enter the multitudes, in Exxon Blue and Radiation Rose." If all the slaves were free, who would want to work on the oil rigs and in the nuclear plants? Enter the robots, I guess. Thanks again, Ruth in Richmond ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 13:10:41 -0700 From: Mary Casey Subject: Re: new to list, cd problems? Hi, Thank you for the welcome. You know, it's strange, only my Joni cds have this problem. Actually, it's only the old ones (on Asylum). I play all of my cds on 4 different cd players and this never happens to the others. It's true, I probably play the Joni cds more...but still. They start to sound kind of "crackly" or "static" Oh well, thanks for all of the info. You sure know your stuff, eh? I can't think of any other artist who I would be more happy to buy replacement cds of. Just happy to hear her. Mary NP: Meshell Ndegeocello- Bitter Jim L'Hommedieu wrote: > Hi Mary, > Welcome to the Joni list! I really admire your taste > in music. > > About those CDs with pinholes: A few pinholes don't > hurt anything and the CD players should "track" right > through them. If the pinholes are no wider than say, > the width of a house key, the player will ignore them. > > > (There is error correction built-in. The data is > recorded several times, so the chip usually "knows" in > advance what the data should be there and it is only > looking for *confirmation*. If it doesn't get the > confirmation due to a pinhole, the electronic chip > reconstructs the data from memory. If it doesn't have > an exact replica, it uses a best guess. If it can't > guess, you get a silence or a skipping sound.) > > If you are hearing a problem, like silences, look at > the non-label side of the CD. If it's all scratched > up, it's likely that rough handling has caused the > silences. If your CDs are not scratched, it's likely > the CD player itself is dying an inelegant, > embarrassing death. > > It's very unlikely that you are constantly buying CDs > that rot. It's very rare so the chances that it keeps > happening to any one person is vanishingly small. > > In short, if they sound fine, don't worry about them. > If they don't sound fine and they're not scratched, > its probably the player. > > Only if you live in a tropical rain forest with 100 > degree (F) and 100% humidity, it's possible that your > CDs are rotting. > > Jim > > ps, these aren't CD-Rs, made as copies are they? If > so, don't store them in sunshine. The pigment won't > last. > > --- Mary Casey wrote: > > (I'm on my > > 4th Court & Spark). When I hold the cd up to the > > light it has little > > pinholes in it. > Sign up for SBC Yahoo! 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