From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2002 #198 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Wednesday, July 10 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 198 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Today in History: July 9 [ljirvin@adelphia.net] Joni coming to Covent Garden? ["Kate Bennett" ] RE: Joni coming to Covent Garden? (Not!!!) ["Bill Pearson" ] Laura Nyro / Minimal JC [Bob Shemkovitz ] Leslie's Birthday [Steve Polifka ] Leslie's Birthday [Steve Polifka ] Joni coming to Covent Garden? (Not!!!) ["Paul Castle" ] Re: Surprise!! [RoseMJoy@aol.com] Re: Joni coming to Covent Garden? (Not!!!) [RoseMJoy@aol.com] Re: Surprise!! [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Surprise!! [RoseMJoy@aol.com] More on the Counting Crows [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] "I am preachin' love, I am . . " [Catherine Udall Turley ] Re: "I am preachin' love, I am . . " ["mack watson-bush" ] Re: Clouds and Both Sides [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] new to list, cd problems? [Mary Casey ] For sale: Joni magazine collection [Dave Gertler ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2002 03:09:15 -0400 From: ljirvin@adelphia.net Subject: Today in History: July 9 1983: Joni performs at the Palace Theater in Columbus, Ohio ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 02:38:00 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Joni coming to Covent Garden? Joni Mitchell and her Big Band, The Relics>> >> Paul, THAT is amazing...my prayers for you that this dream comes true!!!!! ******************************************** Kate Bennett: www.katebennett.com Sponsored by Polysonics/Atlantis Sound Labs Over the Moon- "bringing the melancholy world of twilight to life almost like magic" All Music Guide ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 13:21:49 +0100 From: "Bill Pearson" Subject: RE: Joni coming to Covent Garden? (Not!!!) De-lurking for a moment to give PaulC a glimmer of hope with a cryptic message. It's looking possible that us UK Joni starved folks might well be hearing strains of Joni Mitchell through the (pine wood) trees in 2003. Early days but...keep watching Bill - ------------------------------ From: "Paul Castle" > OK Paul, I'm crossing fingers, toes and eyes for you! Thanks Bob, but you can un-cross everything now - turns out to be the biggest sodding typo in the world - the organizers came to our rehearsal tonight in the Museum - "oh, did I write 'Joni Mitchell'? I meant 'Joni Stone and her Big Band'." PaulC (inconsolable) - ------------------------------ - --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.373 / Virus Database: 208 - Release Date: 01/07/2002 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2002 08:55:03 -0400 From: Bob Shemkovitz Subject: Laura Nyro / Minimal JC I've noticed there are a lot of Laura Nyro fans on the list. You might want to check out the August issue of Down Beat. They give enthusiastic notices to the new expanded CD reissues of three of Laura's albums; a new live set of her 93-94 Bottom Line shows; and a biography by Michelle Kort. They tell me "her jazzy senusality made her the East Coast alternative to sun-kissed singer-songwriters like Joni Mitchell." Sure, but was she "quomb?" Bob NP: Pretenders, "Human" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2002 09:34:32 -0500 From: Steve Polifka Subject: Leslie's Birthday Me thinks we have a Musical Mixon Mystery on our hands... lol. Steve ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2002 09:36:50 -0500 From: Steve Polifka Subject: Leslie's Birthday Me thinks we have a Musical Mixon Mystery on our hands... lol. Steve ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 18:31:15 +0100 From: "Paul Castle" Subject: Joni coming to Covent Garden? (Not!!!) Bob M wrote: > I'm just glad that I'm able to uncross my eyes >as I was walking into the walls. ;~) LOL - in between crying out loud - same release - 'my' walls have been taking a beating (from my head) all day. npimh : Poor me! Poor me! Pour me another! Bill wrote: >It's looking possible that us UK Joni starved folks might well be >hearing strains of Joni Mitchell through the (pine wood) trees in 2003. pine wood? Studios? Is this a cryptic clue that she might be coming over to make a film? Or am I barking up the wrong (pine wood) tree yet again? PaulC ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2002 13:35:55 -0400 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Surprise!! I just got back from picking up the new Counting Crows CD, "Hard Candy", just out today. It's great, as I suspected...BUT the "hidden track" is a cover of "Big Yellow Taxi"! I knew they had performed the song live (I have a live copy on the way to me, as a matter of fact) but did not know that there was a studio version. Hot diggity dawg! Bob, loving it but wishing they had done 'Black Crow' instead...;~) NP: Counting Crows, "BYT" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 18:43:52 +0100 From: "Bill Pearson" Subject: RE: Joni coming to Covent Garden? (Not!!!) PaulC wrote: > pine wood? Studios? Is this a cryptic clue that she might be > coming over to make a film? Or am I barking up the wrong > (pine wood) tree yet again? Yes Paul, you're barking...up the wrong tree that is. No studio, no film - just Joni and trees :) Long way to go, be patient. Bill - --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.373 / Virus Database: 208 - Release Date: 01/07/2002 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 13:54:14 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: Surprise!! In a message dated 7/9/02 1:36:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time, SCJoniGuy@aol.com writes: > I knew they had performed the song live (I have a live copy on the way to > me, as a matter of fact) but did not know that there was a studio version. > Hot diggity dawg! > > How kewl is that ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 14:00:38 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni coming to Covent Garden? (Not!!!) In a message dated 7/9/02 1:34:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, pdcmusic@freeuk.com writes: > LOL - in between crying out loud - same release - > 'my' walls have been taking a beating (from my head) > all day. > > npimh : Poor me! Poor me! Pour me another! > Oh Paul honey, get yourself over here to Jonifest. It's the next best thing. We'll take care of that poor lil' head of yours. rose NP: Ryan, Somehow, Someday ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2002 14:11:50 -0400 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Surprise!! > How kewl is that It's great...always a thrill when I CD I would have gotten anyway has a Joni cover on it! Makes up for the false alarms, like when I pick up a CD with a "Circle Game" on it and find out it's NOT a cover. :~( Is there a better record with a Joni cover on it than Deja Vu? What do you think? Bob NP: Red Hot Chili Peppers, "Throw Away Your Television" (also just out today and also very good...much more softer & poppish than I'm used to from them.) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 14:32:42 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: Surprise!! In a message dated 7/9/02 2:12:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time, SCJoniGuy@aol.com writes: > Is there a better record with a Joni cover on it than Deja Vu? What do you > think? > > Oh I have no idea Bob. You're the better judge of that. One question for ya though. Where the hell do you keep all your CD's? My room is getting a little out of control. I have a tendency to leave them out and they're getting scratched! Any tips? NP:Kathy Phillips, Killing Time sweet indie girl and friend of Gregg's she did a sweet rendition of case of you Saturday check her out at kathyphillips.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2002 15:08:00 -0400 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: More on the Counting Crows OK, so I was so excited about the BYT on this CD I didn't stop and look at the liner notes. On the inside cover, it lists at the top of the page the title "Hard Candy" with a * beside it. When you find the * at the bottom, it says: "*May contain trace amounts of Joni Mitchell" Sybil, more "evidence" for your son! :~) Also, there's some nice string arrangements on the CD, with Ralph Morrison as the concertmaster, who filled that slot for Joni as well with BSN & the tour. Great production by Steve Lillywhite, another one who could do some nice work with Joni, not that she'd ever let him. Bob NP: Seal, "State of Grace" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2002 13:49:10 -0700 From: Catherine Udall Turley Subject: "I am preachin' love, I am . . " Rod Steiger, guest artist on "Tax Free" from the beloved Dog Eat Dog, has passed away. So says my email alert: - ------------------------------------------------------ MSNBC Breaking News - ------------------------------------------------------ Actor Rod Steiger dies Rod Steiger, whose career included "In the Heat of the Night" and dozens of other films, has died at 78, his publicist says. ========================================= For more details: http://www.msnbc.com My sentimental favorite among his many roles: Jud Fry from the film version of Oklahoma. RIP Mr. Steiger. Catherine T. in sunny Seattle np: Rebecca Campbell, "Storm" (anxiously anticipating her Victoria BC show this weekend) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2002 15:45:59 -0500 From: "Sybil Skelton" Subject: Re: More on the Counting Crows >"*May contain trace amounts of Joni Mitchell I was just reading a review of this album earlier today, and the reviewer commented.."Counting Crows have the uncanny ability to make music that sounds familiar the first time you hear it." If he'd only read the liner notes, he'd have understood why! Sybil _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2002 22:05:26 +0000 From: "Mike Pritchard" Subject: Rod Steiger: Some Joni Content Death and taxes: the two inevitables. Nobody beats the former, but surely Rod Steiger's sad passing rids him of the latter, leaving him, how shall we say, "immaculately tax free"?mike in bcn - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: Click Here ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 17:32:42 -0500 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: Re: "I am preachin' love, I am . . " Rod Steiger. The epitome of fine acting. Loved him. Sad to see him go. So special and unique. All those performances. Remember the one in the dreadful Amityville Horror while he was in the room with the flies or talking to his superior about it later? Now that is acting in my book. Superb. They don't make em like that anymore. Mack - -------------------------------------------------- > > Actor Rod Steiger dies > Rod Steiger, whose career included "In the Heat of the Night" and dozens > of other films, has died at 78, his publicist > says. > > ========================================= > For more details: http://www.msnbc.com > > > > My sentimental favorite among his many roles: Jud Fry from the film > version of Oklahoma. RIP Mr. Steiger. > > > > Catherine T. in sunny Seattle > > np: Rebecca Campbell, "Storm" (anxiously anticipating her Victoria BC > show this weekend) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2002 20:58:35 -0400 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: Clouds and Both Sides I was thinking about Clouds and haven't finished thinking about the album. I was inspired by Erica's comments and also Lori's. I decided to post some thoughts I wrote to Erica, with the hopes that maybe some of you may want to discuss the many merits of the Clouds album. I have only just begun. . . . in my own mind. . . (to consider all that is beautiful about this album) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 09:27:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Lori in MD Subject: Re: Subject: "Clouds" as a Coaster: A Cry for Inspiration Marianne wrote, about Clouds: >I love it in so many ways. You mean you love it from both sides, now??? ; ) Lori ~ :) I think clouds was one of my early joni albums. . ..so I have been around it for a while. . . Ladies of the Canyon, was my first. (I am 42) On Clouds, I love "Songs to Aging Children Come," (and everything else too). This song has actually been a lesson to me for a while . . . that we are merely all "aging children" so that when people make mistakes, or they behave in ways that we would rather have them not, let us remember that they are aging children.. . and so am I! "Aging children, I am one." That's kind of had a spiritual message that way for me. . . . helps me get along better and love better. And actually, now that I am looking at the words. . . . it is also a reminder that it is much more preferable to be an aging child than not. . . "people hurry by so quickly don't they hear the melodies in the chiming and the clicking And the laughing harmoniies. I don't know, this reminds me never to lose your child self . . . not rush around like an adult, as we do. Being in the moment, that kind of thing. So this is where I get back to Lori's (and Joni's) comments about loving/seeing it from both sides (now). Being "aging children" has two sides to it. The understanding of *making mistakes* side (neg) and the *being in the moment* side (pos). Didn't Ruth say something about Joni and duality? I realize my words may be somewhat hard to decipher. In the meantime, if anyone wants to tell me one thing (or more) that they like about Clouds. . . . . I would love to hear about it. Also, I am also inspired to hear about general things you see/experience from both sides. Anyone want to listen to Songs to Aging Children Come? There is even more in this song. Marianne _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 21:32:08 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Clouds and Both Sides < Subject: new to list, cd problems? Hi, my name is Mary. I've been reading the digest for a week or so and thought I would jump in. I have a problem with my cds and am wondering if anyone else has experienced this. They seem to wear out (I'm on my 4th Court & Spark). When I hold the cd up to the light it has little pinholes in it. I have actually replaced Blue once and now I'm thinking I need a new Hejira. I am wising up and burning copies to listen to and saving the originals. I was just wondering if anyone else has this problem? NP: Neil Finn- Try whistling this ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2002 22:46:04 -0400 From: Dave Gertler Subject: For sale: Joni magazine collection Hi folks, Please pardon the brief commercial interruption ... I collect magazines (old & new) with articles about Joni. Now, I am selling off a large part of my collection (dozens of magazines) on eBay. I divided the magazines into 7 lots, each of which starts at a low price. If you're like me, you'll really enjoy these articles about, interviews with, and photos of Joni. Try this link to see my auctions: http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewListedItems&useri d=randomo&include=0&since=-1&sort=3&rows=25 (Sorry, that may be longer than it needs to be. If that doesn't work for some reason, just go to eBay and search on "Joni Mitchell magazine".) Thanks for your interest. Drop me a line with any questions. Dave Gertler (Hadn't posted here in a couple years, will resume lurking now ....) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 23:37:47 EDT From: PMcfad@aol.com Subject: (no subject) i was listening to harry's house - center piece the other day...something which i've listened to a hundred times....but i was really intrigued by the layers in the song and the changes. i even liked her saying....get down off there!!!....something which i didn't really like before for some reason. and she says something like...schools of yellow taxis...which i thought was a great lyric. anyway, i guess it made me think that she was singing about selling out for the take home pay...only not really cause she can't sustain a lifetime waiting home for him...and that made me think about joni having a constant dual thing going with wanting to be the home body family person but ultimately seeking refuge of the road. pat np. bruce cockburn - pacing the cage ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 23:24:29 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Re: new to list, cd problems? Hi Mary, Welcome to the Joni list! I really admire your taste in music. About those CDs with pinholes: A few pinholes don't hurt anything and the CD players should "track" right through them. If the pinholes are no wider than say, the width of a house key, the player will ignore them. (There is error correction built-in. The data is recorded several times, so the chip usually "knows" in advance what the data should be there and it is only looking for *confirmation*. If it doesn't get the confirmation due to a pinhole, the electronic chip reconstructs the data from memory. If it doesn't have an exact replica, it uses a best guess. If it can't guess, you get a silence or a skipping sound.) If you are hearing a problem, like silences, look at the non-label side of the CD. If it's all scratched up, it's likely that rough handling has caused the silences. If your CDs are not scratched, it's likely the CD player itself is dying an inelegant, embarrassing death. It's very unlikely that you are constantly buying CDs that rot. It's very rare so the chances that it keeps happening to any one person is vanishingly small. In short, if they sound fine, don't worry about them. If they don't sound fine and they're not scratched, its probably the player. Only if you live in a tropical rain forest with 100 degree (F) and 100% humidity, it's possible that your CDs are rotting. Jim ps, these aren't CD-Rs, made as copies are they? If so, don't store them in sunshine. The pigment won't last. - --- Mary Casey wrote: > (I'm on my > 4th Court & Spark). When I hold the cd up to the > light it has little > pinholes in it. Sign up for SBC Yahoo! 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