From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2002 #187 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Saturday, June 29 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 187 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Timothy White dead/The Tea Leaf Prophecy explained [Julius Raymond ] Re: Barandgrill ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 00:04:49 -0700 From: Julius Raymond Subject: Re: Timothy White dead/The Tea Leaf Prophecy explained What an inspired choice of Joni lore, Smurph. And what a fitting tribute to Timothy White, whom I never knew of, but will never forget - now that I associate him with the telling of Joni's enchanting story behind "The Tea Leaf Prophecy." I had never read that, either. Wow. Great is the interviewer who evokes Joni's candid discussion of her songwriting magic. Thanks for ferreting this out, Bob. I can't help being tearful at what I regard as a "laughing and crying you know it's the same release" type sentiment that Joni expresses in the interview: "Don't worry about the gypsy, Mom. Two out of three ain't bad." This comment has the same comedic bitter-sweetness, and the same ring of truth, as a lyric from "Facelift" that I hold dear: "Oh, let's be nice, Mama, open up your gifts/You know, happiness is the best facelift." (What's the emoticon for a sad smile, anyway?) Rest in Peace, Timothy White. I knew ye not at all, but I'm off to read the rest of your interviews with Joni, and I will remember you. - -Julius Bob Murphy writes: > Billboard Editor-in-Chief and music journalist Timothy White died today at > the age of 50. > > He is the author of 5 Joni-related articles in the JMDL database, including > one that features one of the best Joni interviews. You can find the entire > article at: > > << http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/880317rl.cfm >> > > It's a great read. The article is from March of 1988. I have included a bit > of the interview below. In it, Joni tells the story behind "The Tea Leaf > Prophecy," which I had never read, although I knew the song was the story of > her parents and how they met during WWII. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 04:21:10 EDT From: Lazyasz@aol.com Subject: RE: Timothy White dead/The Tea Leaf Prophecy explained My God!!! What a sad shock and an even sadder loss!!!! Not only is it sad to see a person go at such a young age as fifty, but also a man who as I understand it was a major Joni supporter and booster. What sour times these are : / ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 06:16:37 -0400 From: Deb Messling Subject: Re: Timothy White dead/The Tea Leaf Prophecy explained Oh, that's too bad! I was hoping that he would be the one to write Joni's biography some day. At 11:30 PM 6/27/02 -0400, you wrote: >Billboard Editor-in-Chief and music journalist Timothy White died today at >the age of 50. - --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.371 / Virus Database: 206 - Release Date: 6/13/02 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 11:38:01 -0400 From: Engwall57@aol.com Subject: Re: Barandgrill In a message dated Thu, 27 Jun 2002 23:20:33 +0200, jan@glas.tmfweb.nl writes: > > > But what is barandgrill, just the best place to eat and be > in those days, or is there more to it. > > Thanks in adv. Jan > > > Barangrill In this song, Joni is searching for respite from the hectic pace of the road, and endless choices that present themselves to someone new to fame and fortune ("some say its in service, they say "humble makes pure", youre hoping it's near folly, 'cause you're headed that way for sure...") The "It" she is seeking is some simpler truth and peace of mind. She seeks it in the mythical "Barangrill" and in the presence of the waitresses, people with "no trouble in their faces." But she finds there is no truth or peace to be had there either. The wairess's mind is not on enlightenment, but on her boyfriend and the nuts and bolts details of her own life. The truck driver is not at peace, either. He's just a slave, a cog in the wheel, not free at all. While she does not feel a connection to those characters, she does with the guy at the gas pumps. He makes up his own tune, and in that moment, she sees a bit of herself in him, and him in herself. In that moment, everything falls into place. After she listens to him serenade her, she forgets to ask where "Barangrill" is, because she realizes the simpler truth she was seeking is not there, but is an illusion. Life is joy and pain, whether you work at the gas station or up on the big stage. Truth is only to be found within, further down the road, not in any "Barangrill" mirage. This is a very existential song. It has always been one of my favorites. Ruth in Richmond ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 11:47:54 -0400 From: Engwall57@aol.com Subject: Fwd: Barandgrill Return-Path: Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 11:38:01 -0400 From: Engwall57 To: jan@glas.tmfweb CC: joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: Barandgrill Message-ID: <4E3D07A0.4993DC41.023DCF96@aol.com> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 X-AOL-IP: 165.176.19.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In a message dated Thu, 27 Jun 2002 23:20:33 +0200, jan@glas.tmfweb.nl writes: > > > But what is barandgrill, just the best place to eat and be > in those days, or is there more to it. > > Thanks in adv. Jan > > > Barangrill In this song, Joni is searching for respite from the hectic pace of the road, and endless choices that present themselves to someone new to fame and fortune ("some say its in service, they say "humble makes pure", youre hoping it's near folly, 'cause you're headed that way for sure...") The "It" she is seeking is some simpler truth and peace of mind. She seeks it in the mythical "Barangrill" and in the presence of the waitresses, people with "no trouble in their faces." But she finds there is no truth or peace to be had there either. The wairess's mind is not on enlightenment, but on her boyfriend and the nuts and bolts details of her own life. The truck driver is not at peace, either. He's just a slave, a cog in the wheel, not free at all. While she does not feel a connection to those characters, she does with the guy at the gas pumps. He makes up his own tune, and in that moment, she sees a bit of herself in him, and him in herself. In that moment, everything falls into place. After she listens to him serenade her, she forgets to ask where "Barangrill" is, because she realizes the simpler truth she was seeking is not there, but is an illusion. Life is joy and pain, whether you work at the gas station or up on the big stage. Truth is only to be found within, further down the road, not in any "Barangrill" mirage. This is a very existential song. It has always been one of my favorites. Ruth in Richmond ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 18:49:07 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Barandgrill **In this song, Joni is searching for respite from the hectic pace of the road, and endless choices that present themselves to someone new to fame and fortune ** This was a great take on the song, Ruthie! I enjoyed reading it very much. I'll add that in actuality when these things happened she had been in the studio working til the wee hours as opposed to being on the road. I only hope Jan is paying attention this time! ;~) Bob ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 21:17:30 -0700 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: Timothy White dead/The Tea Leaf Prophecy explained Timothy White's last Billboard column featuring Joni, from September, in which she tells him about the follow up to BSN can be found here: http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/010908b.cfm Timothy White's final Billboard editorial, reminiscing about his early days at Rolling Stone magazine, and getting dosed at a party with the Blues Brothers (njc), from the July 6th issue: http://www.billboard.com/billboard/musictomyears/index.jsp > > Bob Murphy writes: > > > Billboard Editor-in-Chief and music journalist Timothy White died today at > > the age of 50. > > > > He is the author of 5 Joni-related articles in the JMDL database, > including > > one that features one of the best Joni interviews. You can find the entire > > article at: > > > > << http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/880317rl.cfm >> ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 21:40:48 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Joni in the cockpit? just have to share this little comment from my indiegrrl discussion list...we were discussing the logistics of flying with guitars these days... someone wrote: "Also a funny story Amy said at her gig last year. She boarded a Southwest Airlines plane with her guitar and there was no room for it. The pilot said he wouldn't mind it being in the cockpit. Amy plays in standard tuning and not in open tunings. When she got the guitar back it was in an open tuning. Looks like the pilot or co-pilot was jamming." another responded: "I LOVE THIS STORY! Maybe he was playing some Joni tunes..... maybe This Flight Tonight, or Amelia, or one of her other flying songs..." ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 23:24:21 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Re: Barandgrill Wow! It would appear that another Joni Scholar has taken up the mantle! Well done, Ruth! Bravo! Lama - --- Engwall57@aol.com wrote: > In this song, Joni is searching for respite from the > hectic pace of the road, and endless choices that > present themselves to someone new to fame and > fortune > This is a very existential song. It has always been > one of my favorites. LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! 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