From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2002 #137 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Saturday, May 11 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 137 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Today's Articles: May 10 [les@jmdl.com] a Joni afternoon ["James Phillips" ] Room Opening for Jonifest [AsharaProducLLC@aol.com] Re: patti labelle & aging children [Denny Giovanetti ] Re: patti labelle & aging children [Alison E ] "Joni in Fiction" needs a techie [Murphycopy@aol.com] Re: Joni's sexiest songs [KJHSF@aol.com] Re: Joni's sexiest songs [Vince Lavieri ] Re: Joni's sexiest songs ["Victor Johnson" ] Re: Joni's sexiest songs [Vince Lavieri ] Re: Joni's sexiest songs ["Kakki" ] Re: Joni's sexiest songs ["Blair Fraipont" ] Sexy Joni Lyrics [KJHSF@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 03:27:00 -0400 From: les@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Articles: May 10 On May 10 the following item was published: 2000: "Old-Fashioned Love Songs" - Los Angeles Times (Interview) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/000510lat.cfm - -------- Can you type? http://www.jmdl.com/typing/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 20:06:24 +0800 From: "James Phillips" Subject: a Joni afternoon dear all: So yesterday afternoon, I had house-work I needed to do. I always like to clean etc to music as at least for me, it makes mundaine typical housework housecleaning go a whole lot faster. I decided to first listen to Joni's debut album, Songs to a seagull, as I hadn't listend to it in ages. What struck me about that album is how young Joni sounds and how much more "crisp" her guitar playing sounded, not that it has gotten bad, it just seems like that Martin she used on her earlier albums sounded much better then any of her other guitars (save the VG8 which helped with the tunings problems onstage). Then I decided after that I would put on her more recent studio release "Both Sides Now". You can tell Joni is singing in a lower register then she did years ago just by the remakes of her songs "A case of you" and "Both sides now". Both Sides Now on the Clouds album I believe is in F# (someone verify this for me.) It sounds like on the Both Sides Now album the key is more than likely D (I just know it's lower) Well anyways, it was so strange for me not hearing Joni's magnificent guitar playing, however, for a collection of standards and stuff, her tunings probably would not have worked. But it seems to me that whomever did the orchestral arranging bore Joni's guitar style in mind with some of the string arrangements. I've always loved standards and stuff (I guess what gay man deep down doesn't like standards?) and this album proved a treasure trove of material. I especially liked Joni's interpretations of Stormy Weather, Don't worry 'bout me, and At Last, as well as the revisions of A Case of you and Both Sides Now. Then after the housework was done, the hubby was home, and I was fooling around on the computer chatting on gay.com. I put Joni's Turbalent Indigo album on. I vaguely remember Joni playing on what was it, Lettermen, around the time this was released. Anyways, Turbalent Indigo was so addicting at points I just blanked out from the computer just listening to the album and not paying attention to the chat room. It has that affect on me. The final song on the release "The Sire of Sorrow" I can almost see as a one act mini-play, the way the words are written. I wonder if anyone else has ever thought that. Well I am off to go work out shortly after I have my morning decaf. Take care, James Phillips Urbana IL USA now playing: "Sparkle" by Aretha Franklin - -- Powered by Outblaze ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 08:34:46 EDT From: AsharaProducLLC@aol.com Subject: Room Opening for Jonifest I have a room that has opened up at Full Moon for Jonifest. It is a double with a shared bath. One full size bed, and a possibilty of putting a roll-a-way bed in there. Please let me know right away if you are interested in this accomodation. Thanks! There is still plenty of camping space as well as a few beds left in shared spaces. Hugs, Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 06:57:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Denny Giovanetti Subject: Re: patti labelle & aging children - --- Murphycopy@aol.com spake: >So I got to thinking -- and worrying -- what's next? Carly Simon for >Polident? Graham Nash for Just for Men? Keith Richards for Depends? James >Taylor for Rogaine? Linda Ronstadt for Metamucil? Gracie Slick for the >Clapper? David Crosby for Carter's Little Liver Pills? Up way too early, saw this post and laughed my ass off! (Can we say "ass" on this list?) >And what the hell am I supposed to do if I turn on the TV one day and see >Joni doing one of those ads for the greatest hits of the 50s, 60s and 70s >while "Songs to Aging Children" plays in the background? I remember when the Stones did the $12mil. deal w/Microsoft for "Start me up," and Keith gave one of his "Arrgg, we're pirates!" responses. Yeah, but still. . .Maybe what it comes down to is the "no such thing as bad publicity" maxim--w/celeb. endorsements an extension of that. (Considering Dole's endorsements, what's the future hold for other politicians?) On the bright side: Perhaps Pfizer will come up with a pill to counter "Charisma Bypass Syndrome," with a _retired_ John Ashcroft as the spokesperson. More Coffee! Denny "The American public wants tragedy with a happy ending." --Wm. Dean Howells ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 10:38:36 EDT From: Bobsart48@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni's sexiest songs Mia, Congratulations on an observant and "right on" post. That song "You give me such pleasure, you bring me such pain, who left her long black hair in our bathtub drain ?", and the whole DJRD album are no doubt the most sexually charged musically and lyrically of her career, IMO too. Another thought that I do not think has been raised yet regards two of Joni's piano breaks - one from "Let the Wind Carry Me" and one from "Down to You", which I feel sexually connected to when I listen to them. Anyone else have that feeling ? Bob S. (off to Paris today) Mia wrote: "Okay, this may be a little dark and I may be the only one in the world who thinks this, but I've always felt that "Off Night Back Street" from DJRD is Joni's sexiest song. Although the lyrics suggest Joni is being tortured, she is flirting with a kind of danger here, which can bring on a sort of intense, dramatic sexual energy. I actually think the music itself(and most of the music on that whole album-Cotton Ave, Talk to Me,etc..), more so than the lyrics, is incredibly sexy!" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 11:53:02 EDT From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: patti labelle & aging children My buddy Smurphy writes: > I just can't get used to the fact that so many celebrities I've > admired over the years are no longer young -- and nothing can be done It's better than the alternative. I wish I could have seen Jimi, Janis, Jim Morrison,........ perform even if it was commercial. We have some older celebs performing here in Ft. Myers that I never had a chance to see. Jethro Tull (with Ian Anderson and Martin Barre) They'll be at a small venue singing songs from their just released CD "Living WITH the Past". Jackson Browne will be here in 2 weeks. Styx is playing tonight. Heart will be here in July. Chicago is playing the end of May(although I've seen them twice), and George "Bad to the Bone" Thorogood was just here. So hopefully I'll get to catch some of these concerts! <> I once said a couple of years ago, Joni will be singing "Propecia Plains" :~D As for your post Mr. Murphy, it cracked me up. Thanks for the laughs! Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 09:45:59 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: patti labelle & aging children rotflmao bob! ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 09:51:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Alison E Subject: Re: patti labelle & aging children - --- Murphycopy@aol.com wrote: > Must I surrender all these things . . . Keith > Richards for Depends? seems like a good match! >James Taylor for Rogaine? WAY too late. >Linda Ronstadt for Metamucil? i'm not going to be able to eat lunch because of that, thanks very much... > Gracie Slick for the > Clapper? or maybe just for the clap? ooh, bad! > David Crosby for Carter's Little Liver > Pills? again, a day late and dollar short for ol' cros. > And what the hell am I supposed to do if I turn on > the TV one day and see > Joni doing one of those ads for the greatest hits of > the 50s, 60s and 70s > while "Songs to Aging Children" plays in the > background? god forbid, that's the day we all put on the black clothing, the white nikes, and drink the special kool-aid, and wait for the big spaceship to take us to a better reality. don't worry bobby, you and me, we still look FABULOUS! love, and aging kisses, and still getting "courtesy carded" for beer, alison e. in slc np: patty griffin, 1000 kisses CAN WE TAWK about this album??? amazing. Yahoo! Shopping - Mother's Day is May 12th! http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 14:59:47 EDT From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: "Joni in Fiction" needs a techie Hi, everyone: You may remember that last January I proposed the creation of a "Joni in Fiction" section for the JMDL site. Now, thanks to Les and all you alert JMDLers who have found Joni references in books, movies, poetry, plays and on TV, the "Joni in Fiction" section is almost ready. When it's up and running I know that it will be a collaborative effort of which we can all be proud. In fact, I think that even Joni will be impressed if she ever gets a look at it! But before we can unveil this new feature, I need help. Although I have input all the references, etc., I have no Web skills to speak of, so I need a techie to come forth and volunteer to take care the following: 1) For film references; find a link to the Internet Movie Database and copy it into the database. 2) For book and film references; find a link to a purchasing source and copy it into the database. 3) For book, film, and play references; find the graphic online, resize it, name it, input it in the database, then upload it to the site. Please e-mail me off list if you think you can help out. (It would be especially nice if this tech work could be done quickly, since I have taken waaaaaay too long reading the books you've brought to my attention to get exact page references, etc.) Then, Les can set up a password for you and bring you up to snuff on the project. Have a great weekend, everybody. Thanks, --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 16:08:21 EDT From: KJHSF@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni's sexiest songs In a message dated 5/10/02 7:39:04 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Bobsart48@AOL.COM writes: > Another thought that I do not think has been raised yet regards two of > Joni's > piano breaks - one from "Let the Wind Carry Me" and one from "Down to You," > > which I feel sexually connected to when I listen to them. Anyone else have > that feeling? > These piano breaks are indeed incredibly rich and profound to me as well! I well up with emotion when I hear them, but it's not of a sexual nature. What I get is a feeling of poignancy and a sense of the beauty of life and it's depth and meaning, particularly on Down to You. It makes me feel glad to be alive, noble, purposeful, grateful, and proud. Kind of that feeling you get when Pomp and Circumstance is playing or when you hear the Vaughan Williams Fantasia on a theme of Thomas Tallis, if you are familiar with that. Joni at the piano is one of the greatest pleasures in my life! ken, back in SF ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 19:04:20 -0400 From: Vince Lavieri Subject: Re: Joni's sexiest songs I recall this thread from sometime in 1998, when I was with someone that I am not with now, and how I long to back with that same person. Anyway, my choice for the sexiest Joni songs, having, ah, experience with filling the cd player with so many Jonis, is that the sexiest Joni song is all of them, given the right person and the right circumstances. (the Rev) Vince NP: Mary J Blige, PMS ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 19:7:17 -0700 From: "Victor Johnson" Subject: Re: Joni's sexiest songs So...what's the least sexiest song that Joni has??? > > I recall this thread from sometime in 1998, when I was with someone that > I am not with now, and how I long to back with that same person. > Anyway, my choice for the sexiest Joni songs, having, ah, experience > with filling the cd player with so many Jonis, is that the sexiest Joni > song is all of them, given the right person and the right circumstances. - --- Victor Johnson - --- waytoblu@mindspring.com "Roses wait for the springtime, They sleep beneath the ground. They hear March winds a callin' For the sun to come around."vlj Visit http://www.cdbaby.com/victorjohnson ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 19:13:33 -0400 From: Vince Lavieri Subject: Re: Joni's sexiest songs Victor Johnson asks: > So...what's the least sexiest song that Joni has??? I was tempted to say Smokin' (Empty Try Another) but then again, we were smokin'.... but then again, that is the least swexiest Joni song in my personal experience. (the Rev) Vince NP: Mary J. Blige, Rainy Dayz ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 18:58:09 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Joni's sexiest songs Vince wrote: > I was tempted to say Smokin' (Empty Try Another) but then again, we were > smokin'.... but then again, that is the least swexiest Joni song in my > personal experience. But it's probably the only nominally sexy song on Dog Eat Dog ;-) Kakki NP: Tuck and Patti - I Will (has to be one of the Beatles more darling-est songs - umm umm) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 00:38:25 -0400 From: "Blair Fraipont" Subject: Re: Joni's sexiest songs Yea there are alot of non-sexy songs on Dog Eat Dog.. probably the most unsexy is "Ethiopia" or from Chalk Mark in A Rain Storm, "Lakota" I will also have to say, that "Roses Blue" from Clouds is unsexy, eventhough I love the everything about the song except the lyrics. "Sex Kills" is also Unsexy.. Oh gees oh Gosh, this is too easy, My favorite sexy song by Joni would be either "Court and Spark" or "IN France they Kiss on Main Street".. and then there are tons of one liners or melodies that can lure me into daydreaming.. I thought provoking post indeed. Blair NP, "Kohoutek", R.E.M. >Vince wrote: > > > I was tempted to say Smokin' (Empty Try Another) but then again, we were > > smokin'.... but then again, that is the least swexiest Joni song in my > > personal experience. > >But it's probably the only nominally sexy song on Dog Eat Dog ;-) > >Kakki > >NP: Tuck and Patti - I Will (has to be one of the Beatles more darling-est >songs - umm umm) _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 01:10:40 EDT From: KJHSF@aol.com Subject: Sexy Joni Lyrics I'd have to say the all around sexiest scenario for me would be the Lesson In Survival images, which set my mind to imagining the kind of romantic relationship I'd want-- "You and me, deep kisses and the sun going down." "I'm gonna get a boat and we can row it if you ever get the notion to be needed by me, fresh salmon frying and the tide rolling in." "Hands alike, magnet and iron, the souls..." Ken in SF ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2002 #137 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?