From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2002 #134 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Wednesday, May 8 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 134 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Today in History: May 7 [les@jmdl.com] sexy song [shane ] Re: Joni's sexiest song [] another DEDhead [anne@sandstrom.com] RE: henry diltz ["Donna J. Binkley" ] RE: Joni's Sexiest Song [Engwall57@aol.com] Checking In [Michaelpaz@aol.com] Miles of Aisles ["James Phillips" ] the world of Joni Mitchell lp ["James Phillips" ] joni in my sunday paper [Murphycopy@aol.com] Re: Miles of Aisles [Merk54@aol.com] Re: the world of Joni Mitchell lp [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: RE: Joni's Sexiest Song [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: joni in my sunday paper [Mags N Brei ] RE: Joni's Sexiest Song ["Blair Fraipont" ] A Strange Mondegreen Boy ["c Karma" ] Re: Missing #128; Brenda Russell (ref. Warren K., Bree M.); tangential JC ["Timothy Spong" ] I need the shelf space [Dflahm@aol.com] Re: Night Ride Home, filthy, smutty content ["Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lama\)" <] Please allowink me to introducink myself [Denny Giovanetti ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 03:04:40 -0400 From: les@jmdl.com Subject: Today in History: May 7 On May 7 in history: 1983: Joni performs at Verona Arena in Italy 1996: Joni attends a Polar Prize press conference. 1997: Joni was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame [today] in Cleveland but she did not attend the proceedings. Jann Wenner, co-founder of both the Hall of Fame and "Rolling Stone" magazine, gave a few opening remarks about Joni Mitchell and her place in music history, and then showed her induction film. Following the thunderous applause for the film (Go Norm!), he introduced singer-songwriter Shawn Colvin. Before beginning her induction speech, Shawn sang a terrific live version of "Free Man In Paris" that was quite true to Joni's original on the album "Court and Spark." Speaking off-the-cuff after the song, a nervous Shawn proved she's a huge Joni Mitchell fan by her opening statement: "Joni's an artist who has meant just absolutely the world to me." Shawn then related that she was introduced to Joni's music when she was 13: "I went to church-camp and some 14 year olds told me that I was really nowhere unless I'd heard Joni Mitchell. So I went and bought the album "Clouds" ...and it changed my life." Graham Nash then accepted for Joni with a short but eloquent speech that began: "For the last half of my life, Crosby has been getting me into deep shit. It was never truer than when in 1966 (it was actually 1967), he introduced me to a woman that I fell madly in love with after looking at her, and listening one on one to at least 20 of the most fabulous songs that I'd ever heard in my life and there was no question that this woman was a force to be reckoned with." He defended Joni's inclusion as a rocker by saying : "...She's a very tough lady and she's always been a rock and roller at heart. She's always been and wanted to be one of the boys." He mentioned that Joni has had quite a tremendous year beginning with her 2 Grammy Awards in February 1996. He then added that one of the reasons that Joni wasn't there at the ceremonies was because she's still enjoying bonding with her daughter Kilauren after being reunited 32 years after she gave her up for adoption. Later during the all-star jam that ends every Rock and Roll Hall of Fame ceremony, James Taylor performed "Woodstock," which was a #11 hit for Crosby, Stills & Nash in 1970. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 00:31:39 -0700 From: shane Subject: sexy song i like "all i want" for my vote as the sexy song of joni.. "i want to talk to you want to shampoo you..." mmm shane www.angelfire.com/art/cactussong from emmedia, shane's cd, blonde on blue ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 18:22:06 +0800 (PHT) From: Subject: Re: Joni's sexiest song I would like to vote for Joni's "Blue Motel Room" as the sexiest. I don't know what's this undefinable extra in this song that I find most appealingly seductive? The langourous phrasing? The jazz-like pace? Joni's chanteuse voice? This one's the ultimate sexy song. Maybe my idea of sexy is rooted on something lazy and lounge-y. Joseph np: Ute Lemper: "Je Attend Le Doux Veuvage" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 06:18:39 -0700 (PDT) From: anne@sandstrom.com Subject: another DEDhead ok, so this is hokey (sp?) DED > TTT lots of love Anne ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 10:30:08 -0500 From: "Donna J. Binkley" Subject: RE: henry diltz Donna replied: Marianne, His website was circulated on the list a while back to share some Joni photos. In case you haven't already seen it check it out at www.henrysgallery.com. Enjoy! Donna - ---------- Susan Guz, Thanks for sharing all that flavor about the Henry Diltz exhibit and the detail and such about the photo's. I didn't really know who Henry Diltz was. Now I am all perked up. Thanks Marianne _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 12:08:45 -0400 From: Engwall57@aol.com Subject: RE: Joni's Sexiest Song I think "A Strange Boy" is one of Joni's sexiest songs, with its snakey lead guitar and the following lyrics: We got high on travel, we got drunk on alcohol, and on love, the strongest poison and medicine of all. See how that feeling comes and goes, like the pull of moon on tides. Now I am surf rising, now parched ribs of sand at his side. What a strange, strange boy. I gave him clothes and jewelry. I gave him my warm body. I gave him power over me. Hmmm! Things are heating up already! Ruthie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 13:00:49 EDT From: Michaelpaz@aol.com Subject: Checking In Hello All- Just a note to check in and let you know I am still here. Jazz Fest was a gas as usual and very hot. I am not current at all with the list but plan to catch up soon. Hope everyone is well. There was an article in the Times Picayune newspaper in New Orleans on April 30 in the Living section about JoAnn Clevenger (owner of Upperline Restaurant). It mentioned an era when she worked in the French Quarter that I thought you guys might find interesting. "Clevenger loved the quarter, its characters and funky atmosphere. "I would have never left the quarter", she said, "except I couldn't afford to buy a building." "Leave she finally did, but before she left she operated Andy's in the 400 block of Bourbon, next to Your Father's Moustache. There was live folk music every night. Joni Mitchell was there. Joe Cocker filmed part of "Mad Dogs and Englishmen" there. And Richie Havens blew in one night, borrowed a guitar and sang "Here Comes The Sun". Also In Ryan Adams news, I saw the video of the Corrs and Bono singing "When The Stars Go Blue" this morning on VH-1. Pretty cool. Love to all, Paz NPIMH-When The Stars Go Blue-RA ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 May 2002 01:57:23 +0800 From: "James Phillips" Subject: Miles of Aisles dear list: here is a question: when Miles of Aisles was reissued with enhanced sounds a couple years back, was it reissued with the between song talking? I've been thinking of getting it if it does, but if it doesn't I'll just keep my cd copy of it I have. James - -- Powered by Outblaze ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 May 2002 02:03:31 +0800 From: "James Phillips" Subject: the world of Joni Mitchell lp dear all: I was wondering, how much of a rarity is the World of Joni Mitchell lp from the early 70's? Was it just released in New Zealand or where was it released? I had gotten a copy of it a few years ago at a shop in Urbana and was just wondering more about it. James in Urbana IL now playing: Lucinda Williams - Happy Woman Blues - -- Powered by Outblaze ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 13:26:23 -0500 From: "Donna J. Binkley" Subject: RE: Joni's Sexiest Song Still my favorite mondegreen: "Now I am surf rising, now parsnips descend at his side..." - -----Original Message----- From: les@jmdl.com [mailto:les@jmdl.com]On Behalf Of Engwall57@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 11:09 AM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: RE: Joni's Sexiest Song I think "A Strange Boy" is one of Joni's sexiest songs, with its snakey lead guitar and the following lyrics: We got high on travel, we got drunk on alcohol, and on love, the strongest poison and medicine of all. See how that feeling comes and goes, like the pull of moon on tides. Now I am surf rising, now parched ribs of sand at his side. What a strange, strange boy. I gave him clothes and jewelry. I gave him my warm body. I gave him power over me. Hmmm! Things are heating up already! Ruthie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 14:24:05 EDT From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: joni in my sunday paper From an article about the inability of women in Hollywood to find significant acting roles once they pass the age of 40, by Dan Aucoin in this past Sunday's Boston Globe Magazine: "The interior lives of middle-aged or elderly women have found rich expression in the songs of Joni Mitchell, in plays like Eve Ensler's "The Vagina Monologues, and in novels by Anne Tyler and Margaret Atwood. Yet the US movie industry treats older women with contempt, as non-persons." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 14:20:41 EDT From: Merk54@aol.com Subject: Re: Miles of Aisles James, Yes, the in between songs chatting is restored (at least for the most part). I know the Paint A Starry Night, Again bit is back in, but I'm not sure all of the talking has been restored. I just listened to it the other day, as part of my Spring ritual (I have to drive around the countryside, blasting MOA on one of the first great spring days). This past Sunday, was that day, and I really recommend this event to everyone - or at least people who have to deal with real winters. Those first few perfect spring days are almost like a religous experience, and MOA is the perfect soundtrack. Anyway, back to the question. If I recall correctly, there are still a few tidbits missing from the re-released cd, but I don't know for sure. For example, I can't recall hearing the Joni, You have more class bit, but it might be there. I'm sure someone on the list has the definitive answer on this. Which ever version you have, I recommend popping it in the old car stereo, rolling down the windows, opening the sun roof (if you've got one), and head for the country. You will return home totally recharged. Jack ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 14:22:33 -0400 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: the world of Joni Mitchell lp <> Yep, this was just released in NZ, James, but thanks to E-Bay it's become pretty common. It pops up there about once a month or so. The recordings themselves are not rare at all, of course, as they are just a reshuffling of the same tracks as her US releases. Bob NP: Me'Shell, "Bitter" (less than a month until her new one!) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 14:37:28 -0400 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: RE: Joni's Sexiest Song <> Man, that's a great pick, Ruthie...so full of direct and subliminal sexual imagery. In the final verse: "A thousand glass eyes were staring In a cellar full of antique dolls I found an old piano And sweet chords rose up in waxed New England halls While the boarders were snoring Under crisp white sheets of curfew We were newly lovers then We were fire in the stiff blue-haired house rules" I always was under the suspicion that they were making love in the cellar, under the 'watchful' eyes of all those voyeuristic dolls, and contrasts their spontaneous & amorous actions with the snoring boarders who are all being "good" and in their rooms. It's an unbelievably good lyric, painting with words & music indeed! Bob NP: Me'Shell, "Loyalty" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 15:13:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Mags N Brei Subject: Re: joni in my sunday paper Our beloved Smurphy wrote: > << significant > acting roles once they pass the age of 40, by Dan Aucoin in this past > > Sunday's Boston Globe Magazine: > > "The interior lives of middle-aged or elderly women have found rich > expression in the songs of Joni Mitchell, in plays like Eve Ensler's > "The > Vagina Monologues, and in novels by Anne Tyler and Margaret Atwood. > Yet the > US movie industry treats older women with contempt, as non-persons.">>>> I was visiting a dear friend yesterday and she showed me a wonderful black and white photo of Joni in "Feel Fabulous Forever", a book which celebrates the aging process of women, encourages women to embrace their laugh lines and grey hair and understand all the wondrous changes going on the outside as well as the inside. To this day, I don't get it, why ARE older women treated with such contempt? I find this attitude rather insulting and have experienced it myself, even at my age! geeze!!!! Could it be that some people are threatened by us? Could this contempt/disrespect be a way to try and throw us off balance? An attempt to knock us down because of the power and wisdom and sense of self we gain as we age? Mags ===== You open my heart, you do. Yes you do. - JM Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 18:35:05 -0400 From: "Blair Fraipont" Subject: RE: Joni's Sexiest Song That is just tooo funny. Better than any of my bumbling Mondegreens.. It is funny that several have mentinoed "A Strange Boy" because as of recently, I have been listening to HEjira on my walkman atleast once a day and paying attention to lyrics that I normally overlooked or had forgotten and I must say that A Strange Boy has grabbed my heart. That was a long run on sentence, so I apologize. So, I am really getting to love Hejira.. There were alot of qualities about the record that I had noticed, but not dug before. Slowly it climbs up my list of favorite Joni records. Blair NP: SOng For Sharon > >Still my favorite mondegreen: > >"Now I am surf rising, now parsnips descend at his side..." > _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 23:49:35 +0000 From: "c Karma" Subject: A Strange Mondegreen Boy I had one for that line too: "Now I am surprising! Now part trips a sample inside." O, poetry. Oh, Margaret. CC _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 May 2002 01:05:38 +0000 From: "Timothy Spong" Subject: Re: Missing #128; Brenda Russell (ref. Warren K., Bree M.); tangential JC Warren Keith wrote: ... i >fell in love with " ray's dad's cadillac " immediately upon hearing it. the >song literally tapped into my teenage experience. we use to get stoned and >lie at the end of our local airport runway, we could "...see the >bolts...see >the tire treads." we also seemed to live in cars, or wooded areas, for >lack >of anywhere else to get high. ( i am also a fan of brenda russell who helps >joni with the vocals !) NRH is song after song of marvelous music, i think >it was in the middle of a marvelous creative arch for joni which started >with >CMIARS and ended with TI . just my humble opinion... > >loving all things joni, >warren keith > >p.s. by the way, did anyone else on the " joni-only " digest not receive # > >128 ? > ... and then, Bree McDonough wrote: > >Brenda Russell, she's great. Compliments Joni perfectly on NRH! Do you >know much about her? Where is she? How did Joni find her? > ... and now, me: I get the "joni-only" digest, and did not receive one recently. Maybe it was #128, but insofar as Tuesday's was #133, #128 would apparently have been Thursday's (May 2), and I thought the day I received none was more recent. About Brenda Russell: Shortly after I arrived in Saudi Arabia in 1990, for what proved to be a 7-1/2-month stay, I started hearing "Kiss Me With the Wind" frequently on the Armed Forces Radio. I really liked it, and during my stay, got a chance to buy the Brenda Russell cassette that has that included - -- I think it is self-titled. It also has "Piano in the Dark," which I had hitherto thought had been recorded by Roberta Flack, but something I read seemed to indicate that it was original with Brenda Russell. Can anyone here confirm or debunk that? Anyway, while "Kiss Me With the Wind" was in heavy rotation for those few weeks, I don't think I ever heard it on radio after returning Stateside. And I don't think I've heard any more about, or from, Brenda Russell. Tim Spong Dover, Del., U.S.A. _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 18:06:19 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Missing #128; Brenda Russell (ref. Warren K., Bree M.); tangential JC Bree wrote: > >Brenda Russell, she's great. Compliments Joni perfectly on NRH! Do you > >know much about her? Where is she? How did Joni find her? Tim wrote: >And I don't think I've heard any more about, or from, Brenda Russell. She performs here in L.A. all the time, usually at Rusty's Surf Ranch in Santa Monica. I keep meaning to go see her and if I do, I'll give you a report. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 20:50:40 -0500 From: "mia ortlieb" Subject: re: Joni's sexiest song Okay, this may be a little dark and I may be the only one in the world who thinks this, but I've always felt that "Off Night Back Street" from DJRD is Joni's sexiest song. Although the lyrics suggest Joni is being tortured, she is flirting with a kind of danger here, which can bring on a sort of intense, dramatic sexual energy. I actually think the music itself(and most of the music on that whole album-Cotton Ave, Talk to Me,etc..), more so than the lyrics, is incredibly sexy! Next, I would have to go with "Lucky Girl" from (I know, I know) DED. Mia _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 23:22:35 EDT From: Dflahm@aol.com Subject: I need the shelf space I have come across some articles that I collected when I planned the liner notes for JAZZ TAKES...(1999.) A friend at NEWSWEEK let me photocopy their files. There are two big BILLBOARD pieces around her being given the Century Award. Also features and reviews that go back to the 70s from papers around the country. Most of the ROLLING STONE interview is there as well as Perry Meisel's piece from the VILLAGE VOICE. This might add up to two pounds of stuff. If anyone wants it, I would mail it out. Otherwise, I will be putting it in the recycle bag, 'cause I NEED the SHELF SPACE! DAVID LAHM ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 23:29:54 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lama\)" Subject: Re: Night Ride Home, filthy, smutty content Uh-oh. Trouble at home, Lori? :) Just teasing. I put DJRD on infinite repeat for this....... It runs for days. Hee hee Lama > From: Lori in MD > Hmmm ... perhaps the song IS too long ... unless you're making > love as it's playing ... then it can't be long enough ... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 21:15:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Denny Giovanetti Subject: Please allowink me to introducink myself Being the talkative sort, Ive been semi-successful viz. silence, trying to get a sense of whats going on in JMDL-land. Anyway, Joni fan since 67 or 68 (memory fails an exact date--it mightve been the times), w/a big thanks to a long-ago girlfriend who said, She wrote Both sides now! with the emphasis that _that_ amounted to something (and, begrudgingly, I've had to admit that I knew so much less). Remember seeing Joni on The Joey Bishop Show (8/68?) singing The Fiddle and the Drum, which I thought to be an incredibly courageous act, given that, 1. it was a capella; and 2. not on her debut LP. Jeez! thought I, or something similar--mesmerized. _This_ was someone to pay attention to. And did, followed for many years, her return to the Mariposa festival70 was wonderful; the jazz excursions, when I was paddling for life in Ornette Coleman and the Art Ensemble of Chicago; only to lose her direction with _Wild things run fast_. Which I attribute to the weirdness of sonic Joni, ie, synthd-out and other sounds. RE: WTRF, Ive long wondered, why in the hell would she clutter good songs with Steve Lukathers processed 80s guitar babblings?!!? (This goes somewhat earlier: The Jungle Line, is a really fine performance, on a favorite albumsand I esp. like the drums; but that synth--at times like fingernails across a lower consciousness.) And most of the 80s were a blurtho I continued to buy each release, hoping for direction, until _Taming the tiger_ got my ear then _Turbulent Indigo_ really grabbed me, again; but despite all of that, to paraphrase the Natl Rifle Assoc. (how often does one see that reference on this list?), you can have that old vinyl when you pry them from my cold. . .blah, blah, blah. Wow! Am I full of myself?!!? Such blather! Well, consider that its spring. That its been a lovely day here in the mountains of central Arizona. Consider that the Stones are going on tour again. Personal favorites have to include Heijira, a favorite since the first time the needle hit the vinylperhaps at the very top of a very crowded list. Anyway, enough of my nonsense. You folk have more important things to do. Except for this: I'm happy to be here. Denny With a tip of the hat to Boris Badenov NP: Exile on Main Street: The sunlight scares the daylights out of me! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 May 2002 00:31:36 EDT From: Bobsart48@aol.com Subject: Re: Night Ride Home - give me a CD James Phillips wrote: "I also remember my minister at the church I was going to at the time coming over and I was playing Joni's Night Ride Home and him liking it. When he asked who that was, I told him, oh, it's Joni Mitchell's new album, and he was like, she's around still? Well that year for his birthday I bought another copy of Night Ride Home and gave it to him:-) " What's this with NRH. I gave it to Charlie Dolan (Chairman of Cablevision - owner of the Knicks, Rangers and MSG - and my family's former next door neighbor when he was poor) as sort of a thank you gift. Each year, he holds a 4th of July party in his backyard on LI's north shore - for several years about 1000 people attended - complete with a grandiose fireworks display - and I do mean grandiose. It's his anniversary, and his daughter's birthday. Anyway, a couple of years ago, as we approached his house shortly before sunset, we got stuck behind a horse and carriage - no kidding. So I sent him the CD as sort of a compliment - but complained about the $135 I had just spent to see Joni in his building. He replied that he and his wife Helen had listened to NRH and thought she was outstanding - but that I should call him next time for tickets. So far - what next time ? Bob S. PS - he is a fine person (but a tough, tough businessman). Are these mutually exclusive ? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 23:08:39 -0700 From: Julius Raymond Subject: Tom Rush "...probably the only man alive that should be allowed to sing Joni = Mitchell songs..." The Chicago Tribune That's from the Tom Rush website. I'm going to the Mill Valley show on = Wednesday with an urge to hear "Urge For Going" live. Looks like he = could be coming to a theater near you. - -Julius 2002 Appearance Schedule May 15 - Sweetwater - Mill Valley, CA - 415 388-2820=20 16 - Palms Playhouse - Davis, CA - 530 756-8502=20 17 - Freight & Salvage - Berkeley, CA - 510 548-7603=20 18 - McCabes Guitar Shop - Santa Monica, CA - 310 828-8037=20 19 - Soho - Santa Barbara, CA - 805 962-7776=20 31 - Barnstormer's Theater - Tamworth, NH - 603-447-3003=20 June 1 - Midsummer Night Festival - Wakefield, MA - 781-246-3070=20 13 - Iron Horse Music Hall - Northampton, MA=20 14 - Caff=E8 Lena - Saratoga Springs, NY=20 16 - Clearwater Festival - Poughkeepsie, NY - 914 454-7673=20 30 - Humphrey's Concert by the Bay - San Diego, CA=20 w/ Judy Collins, Eric Anderson & Arlo Guthrie=20 August 20 - WOMR Food & Wine Festival - Cape Cod Melody Tent - Hyannis, MA=20 23 - Jonathans - Ogunquit, ME=20 November 9 - Kravis Center for the Arts - West Palm Beach, FL=20 10 - Players Theater - Sarasota, FL=20 [demime 0.97c removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of new.gif] ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2002 #134 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?