From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2002 #105 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Monday, April 15 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 105 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: JMDL Digest V2002 #159 - Age and Beauty [BRYAN8847@aol.com] Today's Articles: April 14 [les@jmdl.com] Re: Sometimes I'm Hippy [colin ] Siquomb Forever ["William" ] Re: Judy Collins / Wildflowers / Albatross - SJC [Bobsart48@aol.com] Re: Siquomb Forever [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Releasing the Orchestral recording on separate disks... [RoseMJoy@aol] Re: Siquomb Forever [Mags N Brei ] Re: another member of the Sherelle fan club [RobSher50@aol.com] Re: Joni at the Beeb and the Hippie Movement [Randy Remote ] Re: another member of the Sherelle fan club [Michael Paz ] Re: Sex Kills [Michael Paz ] Re: SJC [Michael Paz ] Re: Sometimes I'm Hippy [Michael Paz ] 6 Feet Off The Ground [Michael Paz ] Six Feet Under & Joni [Gary Zack ] Wonderful wonderful [dsk ] Re: Six Feet Under & Joni [RoseMJoy@aol.com] Re: Six Feet Under & Joni [dsk ] Re: Six Feet Under & Joni [Gary Zack ] Yes, guitars & Joni ["Mark or Travis" ] Jonifest - joints ["Mark or Travis" ] Re: another member of the Sherelle fan club [RobSher50@aol.com] RE: joni on BBC/Karla Bonoff ["Kate Bennett" ] RE: Leslie Smith [rsc1 ] (sjc)News(?) about Cocteau Twins.... and"flawless" CDs -- LONG [BigWaltin] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 03:56:19 EDT From: BRYAN8847@aol.com Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2002 #159 - Age and Beauty Not that it matters, really, but -- Less than four years ago, I saw Joni from a distance of 5-6 feet, in semi-bright, revealing light, with little or no make-up. By no means did she look "old" or a "sea hag," whatever that is (she looked her age, more or less). Of course I'm sure she has aged some since then (boy, have I!), but I really think, as some others have said, that her "look" is largely dependent on whether she's showing her joy or her bitterness or disappointment or whatever it is that seems to trouble her sometimes. Anyway, as always, here's wishing her good health and lots of reasons for joy. Bryan ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 04:26:13 -0400 From: les@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Articles: April 14 On April 14 the following items were published: 2000: "On the Tube" - Pittsburgh Post-Gazette (Review - Appearance) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/000414ppg.cfm 2000: "TV News Today" - MSNBC.com (Interview) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/000414ts.cfm ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 09:29:31 +0100 From: colin Subject: Re: Sometimes I'm Hippy Alison E wrote: > well, my mom looks great.. > alison e. in slc. > > --- colin wrote: > > > next we're faced with a ravaged old hippy queen. > no he didn't! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 11:37:52 +0100 From: "William" Subject: Siquomb Forever Joni has to be one of the most strikingly attractive women ever in the music business. From that unmistakable bone structure to the shining hair and shining skin she outshines them all. And her inner beauty is even more drop dead gorgeous. Oh and one other thing, her music's not so bad either. Gush gush, effuse effuse. Siquomb indeed. WtS Here Lies the Bag Lady - R.I.P. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 06:44:32 EDT From: Bobsart48@aol.com Subject: Re: Judy Collins / Wildflowers / Albatross - SJC Mark E wrote "I've really been getting into Judy lately. 'Wildflowers' is a wonderful recording! I wasn't expecting an album of songs arranged for orchestral instruments. It's really quite unique & beautiful. Lately I'm fascinated by 'Albatross'. When I first heard it I couldn't figure what the hell it was about. But the more I've listened to it the more it becomes clear to me. If anyone wants to hear my idea of what it's about or wants to tell me what their interpretation is, I will ask you to email me off list since this is Joni's discussion list, not Judy's. I would love to hear from anybody who cares to chime in!" I bought Wildflowers when I was in college - in 1969 I think - not too long after it came out. I cannot recall exactly why I bought it, but I am pretty certain it was because I loved Both Sides Now when I heard it on the radio. I got more than I bargained for. It became my introduction to Joni (both sides of the album open with Joni songs - MFM starting side one). At this point, Joni was only a name on the Wildfowers album cover to me. I agree with Mark's assessment of Wildflowers - an album of beautiful songs, beautifully arranged and conducted by Joshua Rifkin, sung by a beautiful voice. In addition to the 2 Joni classics, there are 3 songs from Leonard Cohen (Sisters of Mercy, Priests and Hey, That's No Way to Say Goodbye - can anyone else see the connection between these titles and the Leonard/Joni pairing ?). Also a gorgeous Jacques Brel song, La Chanson des vieux amants - "The Song of Old Lovers". So, how's that for paying attention to lyrics and melody? To which Judy added 3 of her own songs - including the haunting Albatross (was this a bold move by her - pitting her own work next that of the aforementioned trio ?). Two of the songs are foreign language songs - the Brel and one in Italian, I believe - gorgeous. I loved this album so much that - to this day - every time my father and I get together the conversation goes "I know you're crazy about Judy Collins." "Joni Mitchell, Dad." And we both smile. I also loved it so much that - a year or so later - my roommate said to me "Since you like Wildflowers so much, I think you might enjoy this", and lent me his copy of the newly released LOTC. It took me a short while to get used Joni's less accessible voice, but of course from that point on, I was hooked. I assume that most of those on this list are familiar with Wildflowers, but for those who are not and might consider going back 30 something years to pick up a classic, I think you will find that this record holds up very, very well. Bob S. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 08:31:31 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Siquomb Forever <> I just got a new computer setup with all the bells & whistles, including a DVD drive/player and a top of the line video card. Got the Shadows & Light DVD, and it was like I was watching it (and hearing it) for the first time. Joni is one foxy babe in this thing! Bob NP: David Hay, "Chinese Cafe" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 10:20:19 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: Releasing the Orchestral recording on separate disks... In a message dated 4/14/02 12:01:47 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Reuben3rd@aol.com writes: > Has anyone else had > this problem? Was this just a bad bunch of cds? I seem to remember others > > having trouble... > Yes, and Jim Johanson at Jonimitchell.com had posted an address where you could return the CD to Reprise for replacement. dunno if they're still exchanging them. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 07:56:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Mags N Brei Subject: Re: Siquomb Forever first Wills wrote: > < shining skin she outshines them all.>> then Bobs wrote: > <> > We saw Joni last October and she looked absolutely radiant, gorgeous in fact. She is filled with such high spirits and yes, those cheek bones..oh my my my! she may be older and, she's lookin' great! Mags, who thinks she's not bad lookin' either for an old bat ;~P ===== You open my heart, you do. Yes you do. - JM Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 13:20:47 EDT From: RobSher50@aol.com Subject: Re: another member of the Sherelle fan club Dear Mark, I borrowed a tape recorder from Julie Z. Webb who was kind enough to mail it to me from Pittsburgh. I was just getting over the flu and was still slightly hoarse from laryngitis. You don't know how I prayed to hit that last note on Edith and the Kingpin! Thank you for remembering the tribute tapes. It is a special joy as most here know to sing Joni. I really wanted to be a part of the compilation tape and Julie, bless her heart, helped me to achieve that goal. I found your address Mark and I will send the 5 song CD to you. Just write me off list if your address has changed since May of last year. I had a bad "who-do-I-think-I'm-kidding-trying-to-do-this?" morning, so reading your email has been especially uplifting. It pays to be kind. You never know how much good you really do another person. Thank you Mark. Love, Sherelle In a message dated 04/13/2002 10:52:10 AM Pacific Daylight Time, mark.travis@gte.net writes: > Just wanted to add my two cents. I first heard Sherelle sing on a tribute > tape that JMDLers made a few years ago. I remember hearing her sing 'Edith > and the Kingpin' accompanied by nothing but the snapping of her own > fingers. > I told the list & I told Sherelle way back then that in my very humble > opinion, she has an incredible voice & a genuine gift for singing. I also > told Sherelle that she was born to sing & that she should pursue her dream > of doing just that. > > I'm glad you're recording, Sherelle. It sounds like you have a few more > songs in the can since the tape you sent me awhile back. I would love to > hear them. I would gladly pay money for anything you record. I'm one fan > who's hoping you go all the way to the top. Personally, I think you're > that > good. > > Love, > Mark ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 12:07:30 -0700 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: Joni at the Beeb and the Hippie Movement owen wrote: > I believe I'm right in saying we need artists that > are going to believe in something and say something about it to my > generation. Not sure which generation is yours...but there are artists on the scene expressing these things..a few that immediately occur to me Ani Difranco, Billy Bragg, Ben Harper, Spearhead, Rage Against the Machine, Tracy Chapman...etc Maybe the difference is that during the 60's early 70's the 'message' artists were more in the forefront of the music scene, and it hadn't exploded into a zillion dollar business yet. RR ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 16:00:47 -0400 From: Gary Zack Subject: Six Feet Under/Back To The Garden (sjc) I noticed that this evening's episode of "Six Feet Under" (currently my favorite HBO original series), is titled "Back To The Garden." Don't know if there will be any Joni content or music, but it would be great if there is some mention of Joni tonight. It's a terrific show and it airs at 9:00 P.M. eastern time. Let's hope they're not just lifting the phrase and that they actually give some credit to Joni! Gary ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 16:41:07 -0400 From: les@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Articles: April 14 On April 14 the following items were published: 2000: "On the Tube" - Pittsburgh Post-Gazette (Review - Appearance) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/000414ppg.cfm 2000: "TV News Today" - MSNBC.com (Interview) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/000414ts.cfm ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 22:55:59 +0100 From: "Chris Marshall" Subject: RE: Sometimes I'm Hippy William said:- > She careth not and why > should she. Yet shouldn't she? One minute we're watching as > Graham Nash said, "a beautiful blonde sitting in the corner > with what looked like a Bible on her knee which was > intriguing enough", next we're faced with a ravaged old hippy > queen. I dunno. One thing that struck me watching the program is how, age aside, she still looks very similar now to the way she did all those years ago. There's not a lot one can do about the effects of age (and, cough, whatever else) but if I still look like **me** in another 30 years time, then I'll not be too displeased. I wonder if that makes any sense...? - --Chris ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 17:55:12 -0700 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: another member of the Sherelle fan club Sherelle Well you can finally count me in this number. I received your demo this week and was truly blown away with your singing and the recording itself as well. My faves are Walk on By and Do What You Love (obviously Sherelle!!!). I wish you the most success and also would love to help you in any way I can. Have you thought about trying to do BG-Vox for someone else as a way in (so to speak). I see your style fitting in with many types of artists. Look what happened to Sheryl Crow. Your demo sounds great and could get your foot in the door to do someone's tour which can lead to contacts and many other chances for you (not to mention more money to finish your record). Someone like Michael Frank's might be a good start cause he is kindof a weekend warrior these days which means you might be able to hold down multiple jobs. Just a thought. Hope to see you at an upcoming gathering and be able to hear you live and have the chance to play with you. May you have many blessings in your endeavours. Love Paz ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 17:59:19 -0700 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: joni on BBC Former??????? Hmmmmmmmmmmm........That threw me! LOL! Say hi to your former hippie husband as well and hope you have a great time with Kakki and Julius who called me this am when they were on their way up to Santa Barbara to see you and Karla Bonoff. What a treat!!!! Here I am at home with some kind of dreaded flu bug and you guys are over there having a wonderful time. Ok I AM jealous but wish that you all have a beautiful day together. Love Paz on 4/11/02 7:44 PM, Kate Bennett at kate@katebennett.com wrote: >>> The same fear and intolerance was shown towards gays by the > hippies as was shown by others.<< > > no offense colin, but that is a huge generalization... > > kate, former hippie (i admit it now...) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 18:06:43 -0700 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Sex Kills Scott- FINALLY! A visionary I can agree with and be optomistic for what we have in store for us from someone who never stops surprising me and giving me more than I could ever ask for. Hope all is well with you on your side of the rockpile. Love Paz on 4/10/02 10:04 AM, Scott Price at sp@olympus.net wrote: > > During that magical night at the Gorge Amphitheater in 1998 Joni and the > band transformed what to me had previously been a blase examination of > contemporary society into a truly apocalyptic vision. With Brian Blade > leading the way, the band (Greg Liesz and Larry Klein) gradually built the > foundation which began slowly and quickly added huge drama. I remember > sitting there in awe with thoughts of a whirling dark cloud that threatened > to overtake everything in its path. Blade's drumming rolled through the > song with crescendo after crescendo and created a feeling of turmoil, which > is, I believe, the song's intent...to examine modern perils. > > I am very much looking forward to hearing the orchestrated version of this > song. This would be a fine time for Joni to push the arrangement into a > cacophonous edge which would once again portray our world for what it is > today...complex, trying, and often tragic. > > Scott ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 18:09:47 -0700 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: SJC Whas UP Tex- Notice folks that she did not give away the song she was playing. I LOVE THIS! Now I can have something else to look forward to for August and I love being surprised. You go girl. Looking forward to seeing you. Love Paz on 4/10/02 1:19 PM, Donna J. Binkley at djb@binkleybarfield.com wrote: > Hi folks!! > > Well, i sat down with my guitar the other night, not really feeling very > excited about playing, but needing to let out some emotion, when suddenly a > Joni Mitchell song came flying right out of me!! > > Across my fingers it flew! > > And in standard tuning! I couldn't have stopped it if i had wanted to. I > played it through a time or two more, just to make sure i had something > worth keeping, i did, in my opinion, so i wrote it down and can now add that > to my set list to play at Jonifest!!! > > I'm so pleased with myself that I had to share it with the only people who > really understand this. One more reason to be looking forward to our fest! > Take care my friends. > > Donna (Tx Tush) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 18:25:29 -0700 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Sometimes I'm Hippy Mark High! And thanks for this post and I agree to the utmost me too. When you are someone as beautiful and talented as she you are bound to absorb stuff thru the media and other demons so that people think they own a part of you and feel like they can make some stupid comment like Hopper did. The same goes for her sex life. I get crazy when they beat that stuff into the ground. As far as Yes goes well don't get me started there either. I love the new album now although I had a little trouble with it at first. I really like the orchestra, but miss the keyboards. I have been to so many Yes shows I have lost count (which may account for the other part of your question). It was funny one night having a martini with friends (go figure) we were discussing Yes and Close to the Edge specifically when I ran to the cd case to get only to realize I did not have it on CD (lost stolen or I was stoned). I had like 20 versions of it live and I had the album, but did not have the CD and that's what we were talking about (the diff between album and CD). Loved the post about Carly too. Thanks for sharing. Love Paz on 4/13/02 10:16 AM, Mark or Travis at mark.travis@gte.net wrote: >> I can't believe Hopper introducing her as the "high priestess of getting >> high" > > I don't get that at all. I never thought of Joni in that context. To me > Joni represented clarity in the midst of all the craziness of the 70s. I > think of Grace Slick as the 'high priestess of getting high'. We know Joni > did her share of smoking pot & experimenting with drugs but I never got the > feeling that she advocated getting high anywhere in her music or her public > persona. Oh I admit I listened to and enjoyed Joni many times under the > influence of wacky weed. Back before it was so potent that it started > making me nearly comatose, I used to love to listen to music when stoned. > But I don't have a strong association of Joni with getting high. > > As a side note, I did very much associate the music of Yes with getting > high. Recently I bought the remastered 'Close To the Edge' on cd and have > listened to it a few times on my commute. I popped it in Friday on my way > home, cranked it up and am very pleased to say that I was just as > exhilarated by that music as I used to be and entirely without the benefit > of any mind altering substance. What an amazing record! Hey, Paz, I've > read a review of their latest. It sounds like it might be worth checking > out. What's your opinion? > > Mark E in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 20:08:11 -0700 From: Michael Paz Subject: 6 Feet Off The Ground I just love this damn show! It made me cry at the end when dear old mom plays the tape of Woodstock and starts singing along. If you didn't catch the episode, check it out later in the week for some Joni content. Great episode! Still sick but feeling better Love Paz ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 22:16:16 -0400 From: Gary Zack Subject: Six Feet Under & Joni I enjoyed "Six Feet Under" tonight. Since it's my favorite, I was so tickled that they actually used Joni's "Woodstock" at a tender moment in the episode. This series is great - I knew they'd come through with some Joni - even if they didn't actually mention her name....no need to... Repeats this week on HBO. It was very cool.... Best, Gary ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 22:22:02 -0400 From: dsk Subject: Wonderful wonderful What a pleasure hearing Joni's song anchor a show, add poignancy, and just sound so darn good! Woodstock, the LOTC version, was played during tonight's Six Feet Under and the Mom singing along and her daughter around the corner listening (and thinking who knew?) brought tears to my eyes. those people have so much trouble connecting... I didn't see any mention of Joni in the credits. It will be on the website, though, and perhaps on a soundtrack cd so maybe a few new Joni fans will be captured. What a perfect use of that song! Really wonderful. Debra Shea ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 22:14:22 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: Six Feet Under & Joni In a message dated 4/14/02 10:07:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time, garyzack@ameritech.net writes: > I enjoyed "Six Feet Under" tonight. Since it's my favorite, > I was so tickled that they actually used Joni's "Woodstock" > at a tender moment in the episode. This series is great - I > knew they'd come through with some Joni - even if they > didn't actually mention her name....no need to... > Repeats this week on HBO. It was very cool.... > > Yeah I'm hooked on under too. Very kewl. Why did she give Claire the tape though, I must have missed something? My husband just looked at me and just raised his eyebrow, oh so this is why you didn't want to miss this show tonight. LOL! rose from nj ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 22:35:50 -0400 From: dsk Subject: Re: Six Feet Under & Joni Claire's aunt gave it to her because the tape was playing in the morning when Claire came in, and Claire said, "that's pretty". So as a spontaneous gift Aunt Sarah gave Claire the tape. (You know... share the music, share the joy... very jonilisty... Bob-Muller-like even :-) The Mom was just curious... and since she's jealous of her sister and the tape was labeled Sarah's Songs, she seemed compelled to play it. Obviously Mr. Rose is not a joni fan... too bad for him, eh? Debra Shea RoseMJoy@aol.com wrote: > > Yeah I'm hooked on under too. Very kewl. Why did she give Claire the tape > though, I must have missed something? My husband just looked at me and just > raised his eyebrow, oh so this is why you didn't want to miss this show > tonight. LOL! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 22:42:43 -0400 From: Gary Zack Subject: Re: Six Feet Under & Joni Hi Rose, I think the tape was given to Claire as a gesture of love, Claire perhaps not knowing that much about that era of music (or Joni Mitchell) but says to Sarah that it's such a beautiful song. I think the tape was labeled "Sarah's Tape" so it was probably a compilation of songs of the times Sarah had made, and Joni was there. To see Claire's mother singing along to the tape alone in the kitchen was just too great. The show has consistently been terrific, but this one was the best. I think you folks on the west coast may still be able to catch this episode tonight. It's a cool show huh, Rose? Best, Gary ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 19:39:15 -0700 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Yes, guitars & Joni It > was funny one night having a martini with friends (go figure) we were > discussing Yes and Close to the Edge specifically when I ran to the cd case > to get only to realize I did not have it on CD (lost stolen or I was > stoned). I had like 20 versions of it live and I had the album, but did not > have the CD and that's what we were talking about (the diff between album > and CD). > I have the digitally remastered cd and it sounds awesome to me. The only other Yes I own on cd is The Yes Album which is my other favorite and it doesn't sound nearly as good. I think I will eventually have to buy the remastered version of that one as well. Willie the Shake emailed me on this subject and I told him that I used to think Wakeman was what made Close To the Edge so great but now I've revised my opinion. The keyboards are awesome but boy howdy, Steve Howe's guitar really makes this record! I'm sure this change of heart has a lot to do with being on this list. My appreciation for guitar playing has really grown since being exposed to what you all have to say on the subject, not to mention hearing Paz and Marian and Terry and others play at Jonifest. Willie also asked me why I think so many people who like Joni also seem to dig Yes. Anyone care to speculate? Mark E in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 19:40:55 -0700 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Jonifest - joints Spellcheck's suggestion for the word 'Jonifest' is 'joints'. Maybe she really is the High Priestess of Getting High.... ;-) Mark E in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 23:58:33 EDT From: RobSher50@aol.com Subject: Re: another member of the Sherelle fan club Dear Paz, So glad you like the CD! I am on cloud nine with the great response! Thank you! To answer your question, I have seriously started looking in to doing background vocals. I want so desperately to get back into the musical swing of things. As I have said before, my greatest love and joy is collaborating with other singers and musicians. Even doing the background vocal thing takes connections from what I'm finding out. I keep looking and trying to put myself out there. I'm not sure of who Michael Franks is. Would love to know though! I will take your blessing and keep it close to my heart. Those things mean a lot to me. I believe they help! Love, Sherelle In a message dated 04/14/2002 4:49:49 PM Pacific Daylight Time, michaelpazz@directvinternet.com writes: > Sherelle > > Well you can finally count me in this number. I received your demo this > week > and was truly blown away with your singing and the recording itself as > well. > My faves are Walk on By and Do What You Love (obviously Sherelle!!!). I > wish > you the most success and also would love to help you in any way I can. Have > you thought about trying to do BG-Vox for someone else as a way in (so to > speak). I see your style fitting in with many types of artists. Look what > happened to Sheryl Crow. Your demo sounds great and could get your foot in > the door to do someone's tour which can lead to contacts and many other > chances for you (not to mention more money to finish your record). Someone > like Michael Frank's might be a good start cause he is kindof a weekend > warrior these days which means you might be able to hold down multiple > jobs. > Just a thought. Hope to see you at an upcoming gathering and be able to > hear > you live and have the chance to play with you. May you have many blessings > in your endeavours. > > > > Love > > > Paz ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 21:09:14 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE: joni on BBC/Karla Bonoff lol...okay, i guess once a hippy always a hippy...but jeff claims to be a beatnik...michael, i hope by the time you read this you are feeling much much better! it was sooo great seeing kakki & julius for the afternoon...& we had a really sweet afternoon of music...sitting on the lawn of the el encanto hotel... a piano player opened the show whose name i forget, then kenny edwards & tom kell did a set with a bass player (forget his name)...kenny is a guitar player/bass player/producer/songwriter who has played with many folks...he's the one who introduced karla to linda ronstadt (who was the first to sing karla's songs)...tom is someone i'd never heard of but turns out he is a fantastic singer/songwriter & a friend of kenny (kenny produced tom's cd)...kenny & tom took turns playing their songs & sang & played on each others songs...all of us were were really knocked out by every one of their songs... then karla came up to play...she looks & sounds so beautiful!...really it is as if no time had passed at all...she played guitar & keyboards...kenny played guitar & bass & sang harmonies with her...what an amazing catalog of songs she has & she played many of my favorites- Home, If He's Ever Near, Someone to Lay Beside Me, Isn't It Always Love, Falling Star... the concert felt not so much like a concert but like we were at someone's private garden party & julius, kakki & i ended up chatting a bit with both karla & kenny & the show's producer afterwards... i've been a HUGE fan of karla ever since she released her debut record...& i've always loved her own versions more than other people's versions of her songs even though she has had some amazing people singing her songs...bonnie raitt, linda ronstadt, nicolette larson, wynona judd... its weird but throughout the years several different people have told me that i should connect with karla somehow but i never knew how that might happen & never really tried ...but all of a sudden today we connected & it was like like talking to someone i'd just met at a friends party...so natural...how funny that after all these years it just fell so naturally into place... here's the joni content: i bought karla's cd (the best of) & in the liner notes it says: "while in the 10th grade karla began playing music with her sister lisa in a joni mitchell-influenced folk duo... here's karla's tour schedule- http://www.bryndle.com/site/tour.html np: karla bonoff - home >>Former??????? Hmmmmmmmmmmm........That threw me! LOL! Say hi to your former hippie husband as well and hope you have a great time with Kakki and Julius who called me this am when they were on their way up to Santa Barbara to see you and Karla Bonoff. What a treat!!!! Here I am at home with some kind of dreaded flu bug and you guys are over there having a wonderful time. Ok I AM jealous but wish that you all have a beautiful day together. Love Paz<< ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 23:25:49 -0700 From: rsc1 Subject: RE: Leslie Smith Hi Michael - I was curious about your mention of Leslie Smith doing "Sex Kills". As she recorded it, or did you see her perform it? I haven't heard anything from her in years. I loved what little I've heard of her work. Do you know what she's up to? Thanks, Russ Cole _________________________________________________________________ >Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 18:29:19 -0700 >From: Michael Paz >Subject: Re: sex kills > >Just wait to hear Leslie Smith doing it! I love doing this song too. It is >so powerful and there are so many things about it that make me feel it when >I sing it. > >Peace > > >Michael ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 02:24:30 EDT From: BigWaltinSF@aol.com Subject: (sjc)News(?) about Cocteau Twins.... and"flawless" CDs -- LONG In a message dated 4/14/02 5:39:29 PM, SCJoniGuy writes: << Santa Cruz...sounds like a relaxing time! Hope you got your batteries re-charged OK.>> We did [enjoy our 4/5 days in Santa Cruz), thanks -- it's a lovely place, and we stay at a motel within walking distance of both the wharf/boardwalk and the downtown shopping district. The have a fantastic local transportation system, so you can go almost anywhere without renting a car. Unfortunately, R's sister called late last night, after we'd gotten back, and pretty much reduced R back to the trembling mess he was. God help me if I find myself in the same room with her. I've held my tongue in the past, but i can't anymore. Hell, I've even got Rev. Vince saying prayers for me. :-) <> Tanx, buddy -- I'll have a list of taopes and the appropriate check in the mail by the end of this week; ansd if i get my borsing ability back, I'll get a paypal account. Sounds great. <> Yeah, a lot of people don't get CTwins. One friend said they sounded like "fairies on crack." Lol. But I like the use of several instrumental lines, plus Elizabeth Fraser's incredible voice growling and soaring for sometimes three or four melody lines. As for lyrics, well, of course, forget it. I gave my friend Stephan (whose first language is French -- his English is excellent but heavily accented) "Heaven or Las Vegas" to use while he was painting his house, and he nearly went crazy trying to make sense of the lyrics. In CT's later work, they use more and more longer phrases of real English, but sometimes the gibberish sounds like Celtic, or Dutch/Scandianvian, or whatever. Their singer, Elizabeth F, insisted on one short CD in which she sang pretty much entirely in English. But their use of harmony and counterpoint are spectacular, and their breaking of the "rules" for melody (and their occasional use of "out-of-tune" instruments) enthrall me. Sometimes there are as many as five or more layers of melody going on at the same time. (Same with Sundays on their first two albums.) Speaking of HOLV, you might try giving another look/listen; it brought back their career, here in the US; other goodies include The Pink Opaque for a smorgasbord of their early work. Many people think Victorialand is their best work, but I like Blue Bell Knoll, the aforementioned HOLV, and the hard-to-find Moon and the Melodies (technically not a Twins CD, but it has most of the cast, and Elizabeth's vocals are among the most haunting I've ever heard). They got somewhat sluggish after HOLV -- Four Calendar Cafe got panned, with some reason (two great songs, though: Bluebeard and Pur). Their last album, Milk & Kisses, is sweet and dreamy, with some standout songs. Violaine and Treasure Hiding are spectacular for the many-voices/call-and-response passages -- I've often wondered if JM ever heard any of their stuff. Anyone know? I know she's mentioned liking Bjork, with her unorthodox key changes, etc., and I can see a similarity between CT and Bjork -- and also the Sundays: Their second album, Blind, is on my short list of "Flawless" albums, i.e., albums that have not even one clunker. Has this question ever been thrown out on the list -- Flawless albums? Some examples for me: *Everything But The Girl's first album *Marti Jones' album that had the song "Crusher" (forgot the name of the album again, and who was that, who offered to make a cassette of it for me? -- please contact me off list) *Bonnie Raitt's Luck of the Draw, and probably several others *Sheryl Crow's Globe sessions *Of Joni: Blue, C&S, Hejira, WTRF, NRH , TI and BSN. (FTR's flaw is [imho, of course] You Turn Me On...); Hissing just barely misses cuz of Shadows and Light [sorry, Lama -- it's flawless otherwise], and DJRD just misses with Tenth World, although I know there are/wore those who think it's a perfect bridge from Otis and Marlena to Dreamland. There are so many other ablums by so many artists that are flawless, but I can't list them all of them here -- it would take all night. Getting *way* back to the original topic -- my booty from Streetlight Records: all of them were CD reprints of old C Twins 7" and 12" EPs. They seemed to have been done in '91', and remixed in the bargain, but leave it to me to only find out only now. Here's what I got (and I'm happy to record and give it to other jmdlers just for postage): *The Spangle Maker (orig '84 , has title song, two versions of Pearly Dewdrops Drops and Pepper Tree) *Lullabies ('82', has Feathers-Oars-Blades) *Aikea-Guinea ('84, has title song, Kookaburra, Quisquose, and Rococo) *Iceblink Luck ('90, has title song, Mizaker the mizan, and Watchfar) *Tiny Dynamine/Echos in a shallow Bay ('85, may have originally been two smaller EPs. this one is the best of the lot, eight songs, all good) *Sunburst and Snowblind ('83, has Suggar Hiccup [from Head over Heals], From the Flagstones, Hitherto and Because of Whirl-Jack) *Peppermint Pig ('83, has two versions of the title track, also Lifeline and Hazel) Also recommended: The BBC Sessions. A wonderful 2-disk find, with lots of early stuff not heard anywhere else, including ***Strange Fruit*** -- perhaps the oddest version of Lady Days amazing song I've ever heard, but haunting nevertheless. Enough already -- sorry I got so carried away. Bob, I'll have the check and the list in the mail tomorrow. And everyone else, especially you Cocteau Twins fans out there, please feel free to contact either on- or off-list., if you want me to make some kind of tape. Best to everyone! Walt The Spangle Maker ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2002 #105 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?