From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2002 #93 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Wednesday, April 3 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 093 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Today's Articles: April 2 [les@jmdl.com] Today in History: April 2 [les@jmdl.com] Re: Song to a Seagull 1968 [FredNow@aol.com] Re: A Friend Of Spirit, sjc [FredNow@aol.com] Re: Song to a Seagull 1968 [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Diana Krall at Radio City [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] joni on VH1 ["Sue Cameron" ] Re: Joni in major and minor... ["owen.duff" ] Song to a Seagull 1968 ["Kate Bennett" ] (sjc) Speaking of Van Gogh... [BigWaltinSF@aol.com] Re: (sjc) Speaking of Van Gogh... ["Sharon L. Buffington" writes: >Just reacting to the thinness of Joni content on the list these days... >Believe it or not, I've only now just discovered Joni's first album, Song >to a Seagull, originally releaed in 1968 (Say what??) Wow! I was truly amazed >at the sheer beauty of the voice, and was deeply touched by her renditions >of The Dawntreader (a precursor to Song for Sharon?) and Cactus Tree, among others. >I would even venture to say, that perhaps her voice never sounded better >(although surely there are those who would disagree.) I think first albums >are always very special events, because they usually embody many years >of work, fermentation and thought on the part of the artist. Surprsingly, >I was astounded (and relieved) to discover that the music (very elegant and pared >down) doesn't sound dated to this jaded ear of 2002. That's very impressive >indeed. Go Joni! This album must surely join my list of absolute Joni >favorites. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 04:21:58 EST From: FredNow@aol.com Subject: Re: A Friend Of Spirit, sjc "Jim L'Hommedieu" writes: >He goes, "Yeah! She's a perfect example! She starts >out in folk, then does some commercial things, then >jazz, then synthesizers! No one has done that like >Joni!" Lama, what does your friend mean by "commercial"? Seriously, what does this word mean, especially in the context of Joni? - -Fred ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 08:13:04 -0500 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Song to a Seagull 1968 In a message dated Tue, 2 Apr 2002 4:21:00 AM Eastern Standard Time, FredNow writes: > although the standard take on Joni's > voice back of that time is the perpetual high vibrato-laden soprano, she > actually often dips down pretty far in her range, and it's > incredibly > beautiful, thick with bittersweetness. This was also the first thing to hit me...I too was late in coming to STAS, I had heard Night In The City on the radio, and that was about it. I remember buying it (after joining this list) and listening to I Had A King, and being amazed at the way she sang "Brown", so much lower than anything she sang on Clouds, which I had had for a long time. The other thing that gnawed at me was that even though I had never heard I Had A King (or a cover of it), the melody was strangely familiar. It took me a bit to realize that what I had heard was the sampled melody in PM Dawn's song "The Ways of the Wind". Yes, STAS is an amazing debut...certainly not without flaw, but outstanding nonetheless. Bob NP: Led Zeppelin, "Fool In The Rain" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 08:17:17 -0500 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Diana Krall at Radio City In a message dated Mon, 1 Apr 2002 5:53:06 PM Eastern Standard Time, Merk54 writes: > Bob, do you have a preference here? Not especially...I pulled that Volume (#18) this morning and played Krall's version from the promo. It's similar to the TNT version, very wounded & melancholic. Perhaps a little longer, with a piano solo in the middle. But both versions are great. Was the TNT performance her debut of this song in her repoitoire? Does anyone know? Bob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 09:19:17 -0500 From: "Sue Cameron" Subject: joni on VH1 04/08/02 05:00 pm ET VH1 100 Greatest Albums of Rock & Roll Featured artists: The Beach Boys, The Beatles, Bob Dylan, Fleetwood Mac, Marvin Gaye, Jimi Hendrix, Joni Mitchell, Nirvana, Nirvana (USA), Prince, Public Enemy, The Rolling Stones, The Sex Pistols, U2, Velvet Underground, The Who, Stevie Wonder. n.p. Ryan Adams, Firecracker ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 15:43:16 +0100 From: "owen.duff" Subject: Re: Joni in major and minor... >whatever musical gift she once had for composition has long since dissipated. Hmmm... I don't agree with this. While I accept that she isn't as consistent as she once was, Joan's melodies and chord progressions can still be brilliant and unusual - "Two Grey Rooms", "Harlem in Havana", "Sire of Sorrow" - these are just a few of the songs that match her famed 70s output. And lets not forget the controversial DED album, which, as those of us who listen to the music and not the production can testify, contains some of the best tunes of Joni's career... "The street was loud/from an angry crowd/ and I thought of you/I thought of you dreamer..." Amazing! ps Im a musician so I can tell a lazy/contrived/cliched chord progression or melody when I hear it! Owen ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 09:34:02 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Song to a Seagull 1968 Nice post Michaelo & thanks for sharing your discovery with us! I feel the same way about so many artists first albums...I felt the way when I first heard Shawn Colvin's Steady On. A masterpiece. Also, I think many first albums are special because you are hearing the artist for the very first time- a new voice in the world. I feel the same way about first albums by Jackson Browne, James Taylor, Carole King... Anyone else have a favorite first albums by an artist? >>I think first albums are always very special events, because they usually embody many years of work, fermentation and thought on the part of the artist.<<< ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 13:23:02 EST From: BigWaltinSF@aol.com Subject: (sjc) Speaking of Van Gogh... Hi, gang, Does anyone know Van Gogh's birthday? I'm crawling with reference books of all kids, even have one art book devoted exclusively to his portraiture, but all I can find is a *year*; I want to know the *day*; and I can't do a search cuz my broswer is dead. I've always thought someone should do a medley or pastiche with "Turbulent Indigo" (the song), Don McLean's "Starry, Starry Night" and (almost certainly the least known of the three, but it's great, if you like his style) Michael Frank's "Vincent's Ear". On a local radio station that I listen to, KKSF (mixed light jazz and vocals format), which *used* to throw in an occasional Joni (mostly "Lucky Girl" from DED), they have this thing where you can drop them a card with a suggestion for a trio of songs with a unifying theme, or just because you like the songs, and I've been tempted for years to send them this one... But I always wanted to time it for VG's birthday... Thanks, Walt ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 12:48:23 -0600 From: "Sharon L. Buffington" Subject: Re: (sjc) Speaking of Van Gogh... March 30, 1853 if my mind serves me correctly. Too lazy to check...but My Dad's is March 31...and so that is why I remember it. BigWaltinSF@aol.com wrote: > > Hi, gang, > > Does anyone know Van Gogh's birthday? I'm crawling with reference books of > all kids, even have one art book devoted exclusively to his portraiture, but > all I can find is a *year*; I want to know the *day*; and I can't do a > search cuz my broswer is dead. > > I've always thought someone should do a medley or pastiche with "Turbulent > Indigo" (the song), Don McLean's "Starry, Starry Night" and (almost certainly > the least known of the three, but it's great, if you like his style) Michael > Frank's "Vincent's Ear". On a local radio station that I listen to, KKSF > (mixed light jazz and vocals format), which *used* to throw in an occasional > Joni (mostly "Lucky Girl" from DED), they have this thing where you can drop > them a card with a suggestion for a trio of songs with a unifying theme, or > just because you like the songs, and I've been tempted for years to send them > this one... But I always wanted to time it for VG's birthday... > > Thanks, > > Walt ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2002 02:28:09 From: "Timothy Spong" Subject: Re: EN RECUERDO DE SANDY DENNY -- questions (VLJC) On Mon., 01 Apr 2002, at 19:20:47 -0800, Michael Paz wrote (on Subject: EN RECUERDO DE SANDY DENNY (VLJC)) > >I got this from my brother and thought that some of you who are big on >Sandy Denny might get a kick out of it. It has a whole list of songs that >she participated in including a bunch of Joni tunes. > >Paz Well, thanks, Paz. I followed the link, and found: * Three Joni songs listed. I don't know if that constitutes "a bunch." * "Jambalaya" with the credit listed as "No conocido" (not known). Isn't that the Hank Williams song -- but I think the title is spelled "Jumbalaya," which, if correct, makes a slight difference in pronunciation. * "Wild Mountain Thyme" listed as by Jimmy McPeake, and "Will Ye Go Lassie Go" listed as "Desconocido" (unknown). I know these as two titles for the same song, the one with the refrain "Will ye go, lassie, go, and we'll all go together, to pick wild mountain thyme, all around the purple [or "bloomin' "?] heather. Will ye go, lassie, go?" -- one title being associated with the Scots, and the other with the Irish, tho' I don't remember which goes with which -- and the song as traditional, which could equate to "unknown," but a number on the same list are credited as "tradicional" (I need not translate!). Incidentally, Sandy's old band, Fairport Convention -- in its current form, anyway -- is coming within driving distance later this month -- the American Legion Hall in Kennett Square, Pa. -- and I plan to hear and see them live for my first time. Tim Spong Dover, Del., U.S.A> _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 23:29:52 -0800 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: (sjc) Speaking of Van Gogh... Wow I share a Birthday with Vincent and god (Clapton), Far out! Paz on 4/2/02 10:48 AM, Sharon L. Buffington at sharonbuffington@attbi.com wrote: > March 30, 1853 if my mind serves me correctly. Too lazy to check...but > My Dad's is March 31...and so that is why I remember it. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 22:39:00 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: "Rare" DOG EAT DOG on eBay - "MINT in original shrinkwrap" Jim L'Hommedieu wrote: > ps, Has anyone ever seen a premium edition of "For The > Roses" on LP? Like a Japanese import maybe? I don't recall seeing an import FTR on ebay or anywhere...but the US first edition vinyl is quite good. (And probably pretty rare in pristine condition these days). ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2002 #93 ******************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?