From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2002 #91 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Monday, April 1 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 091 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: JMDL Digest V2002 #115 ["Mike Pritchard" ] [none] ["Mike Pritchard" ] Re: Michael From Mountains [FredNow@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002 17:33:42 From: "Mike Pritchard" Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2002 #115 Fred said >>Where you will hear the major/minor shift in "Michael From Mountains" is on these lines: (starts major) "Michael wakes you up with sweets, he takes you up (shift to minor) streets and the rain comes (return to major) down."<< Pardon my ignorance but would a major/minor shift be 'down' and a minor/major shift 'up' or is it unhelpful or incorrect to think of these changes in terms of higher/lower? If they WERE up and down respectively, we would then have a 'downshift' on the word 'up' and an 'upshift' on the word 'down'. Perhaps Joni's playing games again. Thanks Fred (I think it was you) for mentioning Norah Jones. What an album! I also agree with what you say about Pat Metheny, Jaco et al and all the magic music that came out of those days and those collaborations. mike in bcn NP A Remark You Made  Weather Report. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: Click Here ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002 17:39:04 From: "Mike Pritchard" Subject: [none] >>If one were going to travel to Spain, should they skip Barcelona? An acquaintance visited not long ago, and said she would never go back. I don't know if it was Madrid or Barcelona that she was referring to, but said it was not an enjoyable time and it was a very dirty city. I usually do not take one persons opinion on anything. Also, maybe some of the people there should be the ones forced to wear the muzzles whenever entertaining the thought of going outdoors? Bree<< No, Barcelona is one of the few places in Spain that one should not miss, the others being Cordoba, Sevilla and Granada. Spain, and most of Europe that I've seen, is dirty and covered in grafitti but dogs are a problem everywhere, or rather their owners are.mike in bcn, listening to Norah Jones - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. Click Here ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 01:55:27 EST From: FredNow@aol.com Subject: Re: Michael From Mountains In a message dated 3/31/02 11:33:53 AM, ink08@hotmail.com writes: >Fred said >Where you will hear the major/minor shift in "Michael From Mountains" >is on these lines: (starts major) "Michael wakes you up with sweets, he takes you up (shift >to minor) streets and the rain comes (return to major) down." >Pardon my ignorance but would a major/minor shift be 'down' and a minor/major >shift 'up' or is it unhelpful or incorrect to think of these changes in >terms of higher/lower? If they WERE up and down respectively, we would >then have a 'downshift' on the word 'up' and an 'upshift' on the word 'down'. >Perhaps Joni's playing games again. >Thanks Fred (I think it was you) for mentioning Norah Jones. What an album! >I also agree with what you say about Pat Metheny, Jaco et al and all the >magic music that came out of those days and those collaborations. >mike in bcn >NP A Remark You Made b Weather Report. Hi Mike. Even though the third degree of the scale is lowered in minor tonality, and raised in major, I wouldn't necessarily apply "down" and "up" to a major/minor shift, nor a minor/major shift. Joni goes from major to minor on the word "streets," but the melodic line rises up to get there, then falls again to return to major on the word "down." Further complicating matters is that the minor chord in question is based on the fourth degree of the scale in relation to the root of the preceding phrase (F minor, if the first chord is C major). But Joni is a nearly completely intuitive composer, so she goes where her ear tells her to go, which, if the end result is as good as it is in this case, is all that is required. Her ears are very smart. Glad you're digging Norah Jones. Have you heard the new Pat Metheny Group album, Speaking Of Now? I really think you should. Fred NPIMHBYMI (now playing in my head because you mentioned it) A Remark You Made b Weather Report ... does music get more beautiful? No. ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2002 #91 ******************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?