From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2002 #83 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Sunday, March 24 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 083 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Today's Articles: March 23 [les@jmdl.com] Today in History: March 23 [les@jmdl.com] Women in Jazz [Michael Paz ] joni's drawing on the logo ["marianne marianne" ] Re: joni's drawing on the logo [Monafitz@aol.com] Re: Women in Jazz ["Bree Mcdonough" ] Re: joni's drawing on the logo ["Sharon L. Buffington" ] Win a Mackie Dream Studio [mann@chicagonet.net] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 03:28:34 -0500 From: les@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Articles: March 23 On March 23 the following articles were published: 1995: "Performance: Joni Mitchell" - Rolling Stone (Review - Concert) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/950323rs.cfm 2000: "Elton John, More Set For Joni Mitchell Tribute" - MTV.com (News Item) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/000323mtv.cfm 2000: "Sharps and Flats" - Salon.com (Review - Album) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/000323s.cfm 2000: "Stars pay tribute to Joni Mitchell" - Toronto Sun (News Item) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/000323ts.cfm - ------------------------ http://www.jmdl.com/articles ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 03:28:34 -0500 From: les@jmdl.com Subject: Today in History: March 23 On March 23 in Joni Mitchell History: 1988: "Chalk Mark In A Rainstorm" released. Check the link for a couple of photos considered, but not used, for the cover of the album. More info: http://www.jonimitchell.com/AlternateCover88A.html - ------------------------ Search the "Today" database at http://www.jmdl.com/today ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 11:03:34 -0800 From: Michael Paz Subject: Women in Jazz Here is something I thought many of you would be interested in that I received from one of my news groups. Peace Michael The "BET On Jazz" cable TV channel (carried locally by Cox) will be dedicating Saturday, 3/30 and Sunday, 3/31 to Women In Jazz. All day Saturday they will feature various documentaries and concert performances, and Sunday they will air a 12 hour block of "Jazz Central" (a concert series taped at the BET studios) dedicated to women in jazz. The full line-up is appended below. regards, ~ greg / satchmo.com #### BET ON JAZZ -- (times listed are Eastern, subtract 1 hour for Central / NOLA time zone) Saturday, March 30th 6am, 2pm, 10pm Classic Concerts Eartha Kitt 7am, 3pm, 11pm Classic Concerts Dee Dee Bridgewater: A Tribute to Ella Fitzgerald 8am, 4pm, 12am Documentary Mabel Mercer: A Singer's Song 9am, 5pm, 1am Documentary Ladies Sing the Blues 10am, 6pm, 2am Not Just Jazz The Intimate Art: Alberta Hunter 11am, 7pm, 3am Not Just Jazz Nina Simone 12pm, 8pm, 4am Special: Shirley Bassey: Divas are Forever (2 hours) Sunday, March 31st 12pm Jazz Central Mimi Fox 1pm Jazz Central Diana Krall 2pm Jazz Central Carol Weisman 3pm Jazz Central Diana Reeves 4pm Jazz Central Rachelle Ferrell 5pm Jazz Central Sapphron Obois 6pm Jazz Central Connie Florence 7pm Jazz Central Betty Carter Pt. 1 8pm Jazz Central Betty Carter Pt. 2 9pm Jazz Central Maysa 10pm Jazz Central Keiko Matsui 11pm Jazz Central Abbey Lincoln ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 13:19:52 -0500 From: "marianne marianne" Subject: joni's drawing on the logo Dear Hell, no disrespect intended as I write this post: Hi everyone, Am I the only one thinking this?. . . We probably should not use Joni's original drawing (from ladies of the canyon albumn cover)incorporated into our logo design for the Jonifest. I am a little biased seeings I submitted a logo myself. Though, I thought the logos had to be original. How would Joni feel if we altered her composition and used her drawing for this? Shouldn't we ask her and get her permission if we use this logo? I think we should. It is the right thing to do. Also, consider the copyright issues. Everyone and other visual artists on the list. . . do you have any feelings about this? Sorry to go against the grain here. . . I think you all are terrific. Marianne _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 14:30:10 EST From: Monafitz@aol.com Subject: Re: joni's drawing on the logo In a message dated 3/23/02 1:20:25 PM Eastern Standard Time, treegreen1@hotmail.com writes: > Dear Hell, no disrespect intended as I write this post:... > How would Joni feel if we altered her composition and used her drawing for > this? > Shouldn't we ask her and get her permission if we use this logo? I think > we > should. It is the right thing to do. Also, consider the copyright issues. Although I am a litigator and only have an intellectual interest in Intellectual Property and Patent & Copyright Law, my instincts tell me this is a no-no. However, given Ashara's attention to detail, I just gotta believe this issue has been resolved, no? Mona L. Fitzgerald monafitz@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 12:00:40 -0800 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: Women in Jazz Thanks PAZ!!! I will have the recorder going!! Damn Abbey Lincoln and of course Diana. I just finished reading a article on Abbey in "Insiders Connection" This woman has been around since the 1950's and started writing her own stuff in the early 1970's. She does a version of Dylan's "Hey Mr. Tambourine Man." I just bet her interpretation is wonderful. I wonder if she has covered any Joni? BOB? Thanks, Bree >Sunday, March 31st > >12pm Jazz Central Mimi Fox >1pm Jazz Central Diana Krall >2pm Jazz Central Carol Weisman >3pm Jazz Central Diana Reeves >4pm Jazz Central Rachelle Ferrell >5pm Jazz Central Sapphron Obois >6pm Jazz Central Connie Florence >7pm Jazz Central Betty Carter Pt. 1 >8pm Jazz Central Betty Carter Pt. 2 >9pm Jazz Central Maysa >10pm Jazz Central Keiko Matsui >11pm Jazz Central Abbey Lincoln _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 14:42:43 -0600 From: "Sharon L. Buffington" Subject: Re: joni's drawing on the logo Mona: Under the patent or copyright laws of the United States." Section 4966 of the Revised Statutes reads as follows: "Any person publicly performing or representing any dramatic composition for which a copyright has been obtained, without the consent of the proprietor thereof, or his heirs or assigns, shall be liable for damages therefor, such damages in all cases to be assessed at such sum, not less than one hundred dollars for the first, and fifty dollars for every subsequent performance, as to the court shall appear to be just." Naturally a copyright holder has a monopoly limited to specified "exclusive" rights in her copyrighted works. If a person, without authorization from the copyright holder, puts a copyrighted work to a use within the scope of one of certain 'exclusive rights,' she infringes the copyright. If she puts the work to a use not enumerated in ' 1, she does not infringe." 392 U.S., at 393-395. If nothing is done for monetary gain...or to detract from Miss Mitchell's sales I do not think there is a problem. That notwithstanding, Helen's depiction could be considered "fair use". When all is said and done this could be considered "de minimis non curat lex". It may be advisable to seek permission from Ms. Mitchell. I stated earlier that I shared some of your concerns. Mine however stem more from believing that Helen's artistic license is fairly insignificant and would fail to rise to the level of an unfettered replication of Miss Mitchell's copyright. It really all comes down to whether there is a substantial similarity. And again, I would apply the de minimus argument along with fair use. Monafitz@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 3/23/02 1:20:25 PM Eastern Standard Time, > treegreen1@hotmail.com writes: > > Dear Hell, no disrespect intended as I write this post:... > > How would Joni feel if we altered her composition and used her drawing for > > this? > > Shouldn't we ask her and get her permission if we use this logo? I think > > we > > should. It is the right thing to do. Also, consider the copyright issues. > > Although I am a litigator and only have an intellectual interest in > Intellectual Property and Patent & Copyright Law, my instincts tell me this > is a no-no. However, given Ashara's attention to detail, I just gotta > believe this issue has been resolved, no? > > Mona L. Fitzgerald > monafitz@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 17:39:11 EST From: Monafitz@aol.com Subject: Verdict is in - Case closed In a message dated 3/23/02 5:32:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, sharonbuffington@attbi.com writes: > ORDER IN THE COURT!!! res ipsa loquitur. We have looked at this de > novo...and you ain't going' nowhere girl! > > Love and peace...Sharon > The Judge has spoken, the verdict is in. Helen's logo stays. Case closed. Appeals? Email appellate Atty. Sharon Buffington. Cheers, Mona Mona L. Fitzgerald monafitz@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 17:43:53 -0600 From: "Sharon L. Buffington" Subject: SUZE Happy Fucking Birthday Suze!!! What is it now...35? You better make it to the Fest, girl! Love and Peace...Sharon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 21:50:39 -0600 From: mann@chicagonet.net Subject: Win a Mackie Dream Studio No this isn't about Bob! No purchase necessary! One lucky winner will receive a Mackie 24-track Analog 8-Bus Console - complete with meter bridge - the flagship Mackie HDR 24/96 digital recorder loaded with three AIO78 interface cards, plus two THX-approved HR 824 Active Studio Monitors. To enter the Sweepstakes without ordering from Musicians Friend, send your name, address, city, state, zip code, phone number, and email address on a 3x5 index card in a business size (#10) envelope to Musicians Friend/Mackie 2002, P.O. Box 4520 Medford, OR 97501. Each entry must be mailed in a separate envelope. The entry, including addressing on the envelope, must be in entrants personal handwriting. Sweepstakes is open to legal U.S. residents, age 18 or over. Ends March 31, 2002 For more info on the Mackie Dream Studio Sweepstakes: http://www.musiciansfriend.com/j.pl/6024804 Can this be used at Jonifest??????? Laura ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2002 #83 ******************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?