From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2002 #68 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Saturday, March 9 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 068 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Today's Articles: March 8 [les@jmdl.com] Chalk Mark [Dave Cuneo ] Re: Chalk Mark/Rhythm ["Blair Fraipont" ] Eva Cassida (vljc) [Lindsay Moon ] America's Best ... (tangential JC) ["Kate Bennett" ] RE: TCCOL [Susan McNamara ] The Boho Dance [Gary Zack ] Re: The Boho Dance [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: The Boho Dance [Les Irvin ] Re: Judy and Joan [BRYAN8847@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 03:05:30 -0500 From: les@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Articles: March 8 On March 8 the following article was published: 2002: "'Blue' Movie" - Entertainment Weekly (News Item) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/020308ew.cfm - ------------------------ http://www.jmdl.com/articles ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 09:20:30 -0500 From: Dave Cuneo Subject: Chalk Mark " Cool Water, Chalk Mark in a Rainstorm. > I like this song." I think "Number One" and "Beat of Black Wings" are two of Joni's more brilliant songs. I don't like "Lakota" though :~) Ciao, Dave. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 13:37:35 -0500 From: "Blair Fraipont" Subject: Re: Chalk Mark/Rhythm >" Cool Water, Chalk Mark in a Rainstorm. > > I like this song." > > I think "Number One" and "Beat of Black Wings" are two of Joni's more >brilliant songs. I don't like "Lakota" though :~) >Ciao, Dave. Actually, Chalk Mark was one of those albums at first that I sort of Sulked at and put away for boring days, but sure enough, I began to enjoy the layered sound of it and I realized what was attractive to me about the album, The Rhythm.. It has this "Tribal" rhythm.. I dont know if that is a good descriptor, but you can sort of shake your hips to it in a way. The combination of drums and bass and guitar and keyboards, especially on "Lakota" and "Number One" serve this "tribal" feeling. I should proabably listen to it more and do a better opinion piece on it. Overall, it is not a favorite album, aside from Rhythm, not too cohesive, yet some of my favorite songs are on there. Blair _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 11:00:24 -0800 From: Lindsay Moon Subject: Eva Cassida (vljc) After stopping in at a Starbuck's yesterday, I noticed instantly the words to "Woodstock" coming over the stereo. I couldn't ID the female singer, though, and asked the counter person (oh, excuse me, barista -- ha!) While he was making the coffee and then checking, the man next to me and some others offered up these guesses: Jewel, Sheryl Crow, and Judy Collins to which I hissed, "No! It's Joni Mitchell's song!" (Hmm, pretty testy for a decaf drinker.) Turns out it was Eva Cassidy. Beautiful guitar work as well as voice. I'd never heard her before. Perhaps I'll go seek her out with my Valentine's Day gift certificate to Borders from my lovely husband. It just strikes me as odd (because I am odd) that people don't take in the specific qualities of a person's voice, just throw out any singer's name. Kind of an 'oh, some female' attitude. Whereas I can ID people's voice-overs on commercials in 10 words or less. It's peculiar, I know. Lindsay ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 11:27:38 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: America's Best ... (tangential JC) Lucinda got this last year...did she get this again? I thought it was cool that she was recognized for this. She's in her late 40's, not beautiful, doesn't have a multirange, gorgeous voice. It really was about her songwriting, not her image. Refreshing! The "Time Almanac 2002 with Information Please(R)" has a section called "America's Best." America's Best Songwriter: Lucinda Williams, squib by Emmylou Harris. ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 14:53:56 -0500 From: Susan McNamara Subject: RE: TCCOL >If you were to play "The Crazy Cries of Love" in standard tuning (or as I >like to call it when playing Joni, stranded tuning) beginning with a D major shape ... Ahh, Will, go ahead and retune, we won't tell anyone!! Believe me, once you start alternating you will never return to the stranded island! :-) http://www.jmdl.com/guitar/thecrazycriesoflove-hw-c.cfm http://www.jmdl.com/guitar/thecrazycriesoflove-md-c.cfm oh, oh, my my ...:-) - -- "Heart and humor and humility will lighten up your heavy load ... " - Joni Mitchell ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 21:43:00 -0500 From: Gary Zack Subject: The Boho Dance A friend of mine was over to visit a few evenings ago. He "likes" Joni (but is not a diehard fan) and said to me, "Gary, you know the thing I like most about Joni is the way she puts sounds together on her records." (I think he prefers Joni's later material.) It's not just her voice, or her lyrics or the song itself but the WAY she takes certain sounds and blends them together. The chord progressions, surprising background vocals, etc. She's really a genius when it comes to how she blends sounds together in such a unique way." Then he mentioned liking the song "Don Juan's Reckless Daughter" so much (which of course I was happy to immediately play for him) and to my surprise, used that song as an example. I had a pretty good idea of where he was coming from, and then I played him a couple of things from HOSL and the HOSL demos to give him an idea of how some songs sound stripped down. Then came the question. He said, "Exactly what is the "Boho Dance" and what does the word "Boho" mean?" I was rather struck silent and wasn't sure how to explain it to him, or even if I had the right interpretation of this song. And it's one of my favorite songs on HOSL. I really haven't seen it discussed in detail before, being on the list only nearing two years, so I ask all who are willing - or if it has been discussed before and are still willing - to give me your interpretation of the song and the word "Boho" so I won't look like such a Bozo next time someone asks me! Thanks! Gary ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 21:54:22 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: The Boho Dance << "Exactly what is the "Boho Dance" and what does the word "Boho" mean?" >> Joni takes the idea from Thomas Wolfe's "The Painted Word"...Wolfe coined the phrase in his book (credited as the source in Joni's liner notes), where he descibes the codependence of the bohemian aspects of the art world with the establishment. The verse that sorta sums it up: You read those books where luxury Comes as a guest to take a slave Books where artists in noble poverty Go like virgins to the grave Don't you get sensitive on me 'Cause I know you're just too proud You couldn't step outside the Boho dance now Even if good fortune allowed I think it discusses the relationship between the artist who's not necessarily concerned with being famous, and the wealthy & powerful in the same art world that either celebrate or condemn the artist for being that way. I'm not sure if Joni was prejecting herself as the artist who attempted to reject fame or if she was thinking of somebody else. Much more to say about the song, but I'll leave it to others. Bob NP: Milkshakes, "I Won't Be There" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 20:34:26 -0700 From: Les Irvin Subject: Re: The Boho Dance At 3/8/2002 07:43 PM, Gary Zack wrote: >Then came the question. He >said, "Exactly what is the "Boho Dance" and what does the >word "Boho" mean?" This has been discussed a bit in the past. Here's one opinion: http://www.jmdl.com/glossary/bohodance.cfm Les ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 02:43:44 EST From: BRYAN8847@aol.com Subject: Re: Judy and Joan Sorry if this is semi-duplicative: Joan's Love Song to a Stranger II (as mentioned earlier) on "From Every Stage" is a somewhat acerbic, pained and funny song. LStaS, the original, also appeared on "The Best of Joan C. Baez" compilation (which has shown up on CD, off and on, under different titles) and is an achingly beautiful, sweet, and sad love song (can't remember the composer, but it seems Dylanish to me): All of your history has little to do with your face You're mainly a mystery with violins filling in space.... As for Judy...I have become (once again) a big fan of Judy's once again after a few years of semi-fandom. Have heard her four times in concert in the past five years. I have to say her voice is in incredible shape, she can hit high notes unreachable even in her younger years. The odd thing is, she does sound flat, now and then, on her recent recordings, while sounding great live. Her big vocal problems were in the late 70's but she seems to have recovered from that. She brings a powerful healing quality to her performances (I hate to sound new-agey, but it's true). Judy will be on stage throughout the year with her Wildflowers Festival, featuring other performers too. Now you know..... Bryan ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2002 #68 ******************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?