From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2002 #55 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Sunday, February 24 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 055 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Today's Articles: February 23 [les@jmdl.com] Today in History: February 23 [les@jmdl.com] just doing it for the money [colin ] Nyro.Net up and Running! [CHRIS TREACY ] HDCD's [Harry83house@aol.com] (sjc)Some quick questions about other artists, and one who early "covered" Joni [BigWaltinSF] Re: (sjc)Some quick questions about other artists, and one whoearly "covered" Joni [colin Subject: just doing it for the money If Joni is doing it just for the money, she knows little about making money in the commercial music scene! if she did she wouldn't have released the albums she has done. they are not commercial, were not big hits, and i doubt they made much money. I seem to recall reading that in fact her albums barely break even. her voice has changed a lot. I don't think her itnegrity has tho. I think she still does what she what she wants to do. I don't think she writes with the $ in mind. - -- bw colin DAK,BRO GC, 950i, 940,860,864,890, 260,Silver 830,860, 580 and 270, Passap 6000, Duo80. colin@tantra-apso.com http://www.tantra-apso.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 05:33:19 -0800 (PST) From: CHRIS TREACY Subject: Nyro.Net up and Running! Hi Gang, For all those interested, it would appear that www.lauranyro.net is back up and running after being 'off the air' for about 2 years. A Much more complete and entertaining site than www.lauranyro.com, this is a must see for all LN enthusiasts...be sure to check out the vid of LN at Monterey doing Poverty Train, and the AWESOME King Biscuit broadcast (entire show, with Dr. John cover!) from 1978 (Nested tour). Enjoy! - -Chris NP: Comes Love, Greek Theater 2000 Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 10:18:42 EST From: Harry83house@aol.com Subject: HDCD's Hey, all! I've only posted a few times, but I read the list everyday, and I LOVE Bob's wonderful Covers CD's. This past week I traded in about 7 of Joni's early CD's in order to replace them with the HDCD re-releases with the original art work, etc. My main reason for doing this was the audience "banter" had been mysteriously removed on my first disc, MILES OF AISLES, but on the re-release, ITS BACK!!! MILES OF AISLES was the (double) album that first turned me on to Joni and I just love her and her guitar especially. My questions are : Why was the audience "banter" removed the first time around? Certainly it wasn't a time constraint. Are the other HDCD's marked improvements over the initial releases sonically or just re-packaging? Its only the early CD's that need replacing because from HOSL on I have the HDCD's. Any info is greatly appreciated. By the way, I've seen our lady in concert TWICE! Once at the DAY IN THE GARDEN at the original Woodstock site in '98 (surreal and heavenly...words can't describe) and on the BSN tour in NYC with the huge orchestra...just gorgeous! Thanks again! Harry ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 16:31:59 EST From: BigWaltinSF@aol.com Subject: (sjc)Some quick questions about other artists, and one who early "covered" Joni Hi, all, Recovering from the week from hell (partner Robert's evil sister comes down from Alaska to try to take over his mother's finances, when Robert is the one who's been taking care of her and her house for the last two years with little or no help from anyone else; I called my own lawyer, and with his help on wording, sent a letter to the lawyer hired by evil sister, which created a bearable stalement for the time being; but it still sucks). But still alive, and have some musical questions. One of them is actually related to the Joanster, so I wasn't sure whether to "NJC" or not. Decided on "sjc". (1) In that ZigZag interview from 2/77, Joni mentions a musician, Julie Felix, whom I've never heard of, who "was doing quite a few of [Joni's] songs, not very common ones, but peculiar ones {she, i.e. Joni] had forgotten..." Wow. Did Ms. Felix ever put out a record? Anybody ever heard it, have it, etc.? Did somebody already ask these questions? (2) Anybody familiar with the group Abandoned Pools? Aside from the intriguing name, I've heard fragments of one of their songs, and liked it. Sorta art-rocky. What can you tell me about them? I'm tempted to take a chance on them, but as I say, I've only heard part of one song. (3) Ditto for India.Aria (if I have the spelling right). Only read about her -- can anybody describe her? I suppose if I watch the Grammy's, which I probably will becuz of Joni's Lifetime Achievement Award, I'll find out -- I think Ms I.A is up for at least one grammy. But anyway, any advice is welcome. Thanks, Walt ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 01:15:56 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: (sjc)Some quick questions about other artists, and one whoearly "covered" Joni > (1) In that ZigZag interview from 2/77, Joni mentions a musician, Julie > Felix, whom I've never heard of, who "was doing quite a few of [Joni's] > songs, not very common ones, but peculiar ones {she, i.e. Joni] had > forgotten..." > > Wow. Did Ms. Felix ever put out a record? Anybody ever heard it, have it, > etc.? Did somebody already ask these questions? Someone else will be able to answer your questions, I am certain. All i know is that Ms Felix is(or was) a well known UK singer. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 19:05:08 -0800 From: Rick and Susan Subject: Re: (sjc)Some quick questions about other artists, and one who early "covered" Joni > (1) In that ZigZag interview from 2/77, Joni mentions a musician, Julie > Felix, whom I've never heard of, who "was doing quite a few of [Joni's] > songs, not very common ones, but peculiar ones {she, i.e. Joni] had > forgotten..." > Wow. Did Ms. Felix ever put out a record? Anybody ever heard it, have it, > etc.? Did somebody already ask these questions? > Walt Look and listen here: http://www.juliefelix.com/index.htm Ranger Rick ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 22:29:13 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: (sjc)Some quick questions about other artists, and one who early "covered... << Wow. Did Ms. Felix ever put out a record? Anybody ever heard it, have it, etc.? Did somebody already ask these questions?>> Hi Walt - All I know of is Julie's 1968recording of "Both Sides Now" on her LP "This World Goes Round & Round" (which I actually have at this moment). I've contacted her webmaster to check into the song listing for her 1967 LP's, but haven't gotten any response. It would be awesome if there are some other Joni covers of unreleased songs. But the vibe I got from the zigzag article was that Julie performed them in concert as opposed to recording them. At any length, I'm on the case as best I can be. << (3) Ditto for India.Aria (if I have the spelling right). Only read about her -- can anybody describe her? I suppose if I watch the Grammy's, which I probably will becuz of Joni's Lifetime Achievement Award, I'll find out -- I think Ms I.A is up for at least one grammy. But anyway, any advice is welcome. >> Her LP is aptly named, Walt...acoustic soul. Her rich,smooth, & soulful voice is accompanied by acoustic guitar for the most part. I bought this record when it came out and I highly recommend it. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 23:14:19 EST From: BigWaltinSF@aol.com Subject: Joni and Dionne and Burt, oh my! <<1985: From Wally's bio page: At the Grammy Awards show [today], Joni and Dionne Warwick presented the final Grammy of the evening for Album of the Year to Lionel Richie for his mega-hit collection "Can't Slow Down." More info: http://www.jonimitchell.com/Grammy85.html>> Oh, wow! This is amazing -- I didn't know they'd ever met (Joni and Dionne)! My first musical heroes were Bacharach, who wrote for Dionne (with Hal David), and Jimmy Webb, who wrote largely at first for the 5th Dimension, followed soon by Laura Nyro, and finally Joni! My four biggest heroes (there's like a 17-way tie for fifth place), and I'm gradually finding out that they've all met or collaborated or whatever. Sorry to gush, it's just I'm always thrilled when Joni works with someone else I like, like Michael McDonald or Peter Gabriel, and I didn't know Joni and Dionne had ever met. Does anyone know if Joni and Burt B. ever met -- I know Larry K. was producing "Grace of my Heart", and both Joni and Burt (working with Elvis Costello this time) contributed one song each, but did they meet? Just curious, Walt ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 01:52:07 EST From: BigWaltinSF@aol.com Subject: Winter Lady, and Man From Mars, demo version... Hi all, A friend sent me a tape with some great stuff on it, including some very early Joni stuff -- a really giggly "Coke Commercial" thingy that apparently (with different words) became Ballerina Valerie, or did BV precede the Coke Commercial version? Another thing on the tape was "Winter Lady", which she wrote from the point of view of a man -- which makes me wonder, did she write it for Chuck (Mitchell, her brief husband), or for Gordon Lightfoot, who I believe was their roommate for a while in Tornto or Detroit, I forget. I would swear in this version from '67, she sings sort of like Gordy, same vibrato and phrasing. Just wondering if anyone knows -- did he ever sign a version of this song, say in performance? For that matter, did he or any man ever record the song? Oh, also on the tape, is the demo version of Man From Mars, which is a zillion times better than the version on TtT!!! The piano arrangement is similar to the one I adapted from the TtT PVG sheet music -- I found that arrangement to be shrill, requiring a right hand jump of a couple of octaves that didn't sound good (although it is closer to the sound of the TtT CD version). And is that a mandolin that comes in on the second verse? Nice. And the harmonies are cool, and I love the way she wails "Man from Mars" a couple of times at the end, which isn't done on the TtT version. Vigard's version (from the Grace of My Heart soundtrack) is very similar to Joni's demo version, which, I was told some time back, accidentally showed up on early copies of the CD, and was replaced by the Vigard version. One more thing before I put you all in a coma -- I noticed that where Joni sings "Every time I think of you/swallowed by the dark", Vigard sings "Every time I picture you..." Not sure it makes any semantic difference. Anyway, pity Joni didn't put the demo version on TtT. It's just better. IMHO. warmly, walt ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2002 #55 ******************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?