From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2002 #42 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Sunday, February 10 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 042 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Today's Articles: February 9 [les@jmdl.com] Re: Anima Rising [colin ] RE: RE: Anima Rising ["Wally Kairuz" ] RE: RE: Anima Rising [anne@sandstrom.com] Re: Anima Rising [colin ] Joni and Madonna (no, not that Madonna!) [CoyoteRick@aol.com] Re: Joni and Madonna (no, not that Madonna!) [RoseMJoy@aol.com] We have a winner!!! [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Photos from Graham's B-day party [Phyliss Ward ] Re: Good Friends DED ["Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lama\)" ] Good Friends DED 100 % JC ["Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lama\)" ] Re: Anima Rising [anne@sandstrom.com] Re: Anima Rising [Catherine McKay ] RE: Photos from Graham's B-day party ["Wally Kairuz" ] Re: Anima Rising [colin ] Re: Photos from Graham's B-day party ["Kakki" ] Re: Photos from Graham's B-day party ["Kakki" ] Re: Mac with Crosby ["Kakki" ] Re: The Wolf that lives in Lindsey. [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Graham Nash's Birthday bash sjc [RoseMJoy@aol.com] Re: Graham Nash's Birthday bash sjc ["Kakki" ] Re: JMDL Digest V2002 #57 [Humphreys ] Re: Boston are JMDLers...........(GCC) (Gregg Cagno Content) [Michael Paz] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2002 03:25:54 -0500 From: les@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Articles: February 9 On February 9 the following articles were published: 1974: "Joni Mitchell Emerges from her Retreat" - Toronto Star (Biography) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/740209ts.cfm 1974: "Lost Innocence with a rock and roll band" - New Musical Express (Review - Concert) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/740209nme.cfm 2000: "Both Sides Now" - Billboard (Interview) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/000209b.cfm - ------------------------ http://www.jmdl.com/articles ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2002 09:33:22 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: Anima Rising BigWaltinSF@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 2/8/02 6:05:31 PM, wallykai@fibertel.com.ar writes: > > << enema rising. >> > thanks Wally and Walt. I didn't notice that. Maybe because I don't have an accent! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2002 08:15:13 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: RE: Anima Rising that is right!!!! good old new england ''intrusive R'', intrusive acquiring a whole new meaning here. - -----Mensaje original----- De: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]En nombre de BigWaltinSF@aol.com Enviado el: Sabado, 09 de Febrero de 2002 01:15 a.m. Para: wallykai@fibertel.com.ar; anne@sandstrom.com; colin@tantra-apso.com; joni@smoe.org Asunto: Re: RE: Anima Rising In a message dated 2/8/02 6:05:31 PM, wallykai@fibertel.com.ar writes: << enema rising. >> Or, as i just posted to Anne, in New England at least it could be misconstrued as "Enema Icing", an equally disturbing image. lol fondly, woooooawltuh ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2002 05:42:38 -0800 (PST) From: anne@sandstrom.com Subject: RE: RE: Anima Rising And I've always blushed that the thought crossed my mind as I listen to the song. lots of love Anne ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2002 14:04:40 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: Anima Rising well you have ruined it for me. I'll never be able to listen again without this coming to mind. thanks Anne ;-) anne@sandstrom.com wrote: > And I've always blushed that the thought crossed my > mind as I listen to the song. > > lots of love > Anne - -- bw colin DAK,BRO GC, 950i, 940,860,864,890, 260,Silver 830,860, 580 and 270, Passap 6000, Duo80. colin@tantra-apso.com http://www.tantra-apso.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2002 10:44:27 EST From: CoyoteRick@aol.com Subject: Joni and Madonna (no, not that Madonna!) Kakki wrote: And doesn't the lead singer in this one, all glammed- up, look like someone we know? http://www.grahamnash.com/pages/singer.html I couldn't make that one out -- but I swear I saw JM at the far left of that photo -- maybe with a feather boa on? No regrets, Coyote Rick Casa Alegre Hollywood, California "Only fools are afraid to be burned by fire..." ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2002 10:53:41 EST From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni and Madonna (no, not that Madonna!) In a message dated 2/9/02 10:45:45 AM Eastern Standard Time, CoyoteRick@aol.com writes: > I couldn't make that one out -- but I swear I saw JM at the far left of that > > photo -- maybe with a feather boa on? > > Good eyes! I think you're right Rick. It looks like Joni's smiling face to me. rose in nj ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2002 11:23:03 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: We have a winner!!! Well, he didn't think he had a REMOTE possibility of winning, but I'm happy to say that RANDY REMOTE is our lucky winner of "Covers, Volume 26"! Randy guessed "Blue Boy" My secret song was "The Arrangement" I'm always happy to send these along, but even more so this time as Randy was a significant supporter of the covers project from its outset, for which I will always be grateful. If you didn't win, but can't consider life without this CD, contact me and I'll hook you up. And don't despair, MANY more chances to win are coming up. Thanks to all who guessed for this one. And remember, you'll never win if you don't play... Bob NP: Tar Heel Voices, "Big Yellow Taxi" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2002 10:34:27 -0800 From: Phyliss Ward Subject: Re: Photos from Graham's B-day party My bet is that the lady in the leather beret, to the far left of this shot, is our Joan. http://www.grahamnash.com/pages/sister.html Kakki wrote: > Check out these cute photos from the party at the Madonna Inn, including > Croz in the pink bunny suit! > > http://www.grahamnash.com/pages/Bday.html > > And doesn't the lead singer in this one, all glammed- up, look like someone > we know? > > http://www.grahamnash.com/pages/singer.html > > It's great to hear that Joni's partying with the boys again. - -- Phyliss mailto:phyliss@goldenfigclay.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2002 13:41:56 EST From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: Photos from Graham's B-day party In a message dated 2/9/02 1:35:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, phyliss@goldenfigclay.com writes: > http://www.grahamnash.com/pages/sister.html > Yeah Phyliss, she does have that same vinyl pink jacket on. r ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2002 13:38:47 -0000 From: "Alan Larson" Subject: Re: Dylan-an "ugly voice" to me there are two diff angles to look at this question from... how did dylan become popular initially and how did he become so hugely popular later?... blowin in the wind was truly an anthem for the antiwar contingent, for lack of a better word, as was the times they are a changin' an anthem for the generation gap as well as for the discontent the younger generation felt toward those in power in general... and of course songs like don't think twice just added fuel to his popularity in describing the angst of men-women relationships... peter paul and mary contributed to his initial popularity in recording these songs but i think it was his acute sense of social injustice that made his songs so popular "it takes an ugly voice (and an ugly singer?) to be understood" ---one of my fav quotes of his later in his career, as he turned electric and kind of chameleon-like in chasing diff styles of music, i think he still had some of that originality, but alienated many people looking to him to continue producing anthems of such daring, brilliant metaphor as blowin in the wind... yet his desire to produce new music and to not look back has many parallels, even some to our lady of siquomb one song i think is absolutely bril in the story telling fashion he made so popular was/is percy's song, about a man sentenced to 99 years for killing four people driving drunk... the portrait he paints of the judge is really quite illuminating..."turn, turn, turn, to the crying of the wind" as the hook, if i remember right, shows again his subtle yet powerful use of metaphor what can you say? the man was a poet alan ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2002 15:32:13 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lama\)" Subject: Re: Good Friends DED Exactly. This is beautifully said, Bob. Nice job. I enjoyed reading this. Lama rmurocks said, >>One of her problems with her post 70's work is that she raised the bar for HERSELF so damn high with those records. It's like trying to find grace in a stick figure once you've seen the full texture an artist can create.>> ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2002 15:48:03 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lama\)" Subject: Good Friends DED 100 % JC I've looked at collaboration this way. [ :) ] But I gotta tell you, I was listening to "Don Juan's Reckless Daughter" last night. I can't imagine that we'd appreciate her heights if she had never met Wayne Shorter or Jaco Pastorius. Earlier this week, I was appreciating how great the "Mingus" collaborations were. I would go further and say that most of Joni's co-creators have complimented her. Think of Stephen Stills' bass playing on the early albums and Brian Blade more recently. Can you imagine "Carey" without percussion? I have my favorite periods, of course. The thing is though, I'm lucky to have the gems I do and the near misses don't matter. It's the beautiful tree that you find that matters, not the walk you have to take to find the beautiful tree. Any mountain climber will tell you that the climb itself is 90% of the reward. Sensei checking in, Lama walterphil said, >>well you certainly solved part of the problem for me as to why i hate that album so much. if they were his melody lines i understand. there isn't a decent melody line on the album. certain artists should never collaborate>> ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2002 13:05:34 -0800 (PST) From: anne@sandstrom.com Subject: Re: Anima Rising >> well you have ruined it for me. I'll never be able to listen again without this coming to mind. thanks Anne ;-) > Misery loves company. And I LOVE the song, but I can't get around that one line... lots of love Anne ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2002 16:15:58 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Anima Rising I'm going to have to change my name now. - --- colin wrote: > well you have ruined it for me. I'll never be able > to listen again > without this coming to mind. > thanks Anne ;-) > > anne@sandstrom.com wrote: > > > And I've always blushed that the thought crossed > my > > mind as I listen to the song. > > ______________________________________________________________________ Web-hosting solutions for home and business! http://website.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2002 19:07:56 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: Photos from Graham's B-day party who's the guy with crosby in the bunny costume? an overblown tom hanks? william shatner after plastic? a bewildered robert wagner? my, don't all those cheeks look rawther on the rosy side. wally ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2002 23:28:08 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: Anima Rising > Misery loves company. off on a tangent as usual but i have never understood this saying! certainly if I feel miserable, i want to be alone and do ost of the people i know. When i feel happy, I want to be .....well.... alone! > And I LOVE the song, but I can't > get around that one line... > > lots of love > Anne - -- bw colin DAK,BRO GC, 950i, 940,860,864,890, 260,Silver 830,860, 580 and 270, Passap 6000, Duo80. colin@tantra-apso.com http://www.tantra-apso.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2002 23:30:12 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: Anima Rising Catherine McKay wrote: > I'm going to have to change my name now. > LOL! Catherine that was a mistake to mention! I hadn't amde the vconnection and now you too will bring those tubes to kind whenever I see your name! reminfds me of Bette Midler remarking about the huge populalrity of enemas (or coloinc irrigation) in LA. 'boy is this twon really that full of shit'! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2002 15:31:45 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Photos from Graham's B-day party I think we have a winner!! ;-) Kakki http://www.grahamnash.com/pages/sister.html > > Yeah Phyliss, she does have that same vinyl pink jacket on. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2002 15:34:00 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Photos from Graham's B-day party Wally wondered: > who's the guy with crosby in the bunny costume? an overblown tom hanks? > william shatner after plastic? a bewildered robert wagner? > my, don't all those cheeks look rawther on the rosy side. I'm trying to figure who it is, too. The woman next to Croz is his wife Jan. Did you see Peter Fonda in the bronze silk shirt? Lookie here: http://www.grahamnash.com/pages/jackson.html (the young lad in the foreground is Graham's son Jackson). Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2002 15:41:29 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Mac with Crosby O.K. I just read the CSN list digest and the man in the pic is Mac Holbert, Nash's long time partner in his fine art photography business. I think our Leslie Mixon is acquainted with Mac (think he used to live near her in Santa Cruz - Leslie please check in if you are out there). Kakki (I kept this Joni content cuz she's in the photo - ;-D ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2002 19:33:24 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: The Wolf that lives in Lindsey. OK, so this thread has maybe died out, but I wanted to chime in as well. I greatly enjoyed everything that everyone had to say. This is certainly not the easiest Joni song to talk about... I have to preface by saying that I came to the whole Mingus record much later. I was one who jumped ship with Mingus...but not for long as S&L brought me right back! :~) So I've only had the record for 10 years or so. And sometimes, that's not enough time to absorb all that Joni can lay out there. Anyway, on to Lindsey. I think that one of the themes in the song (if not THE theme) is the privilege of the wealthy. Before we are even formally introduced to Lindsey by name, we are told that "His grandpa loved an empire" which indicates to me that he was an entrpreneur of kinds, like William Randolph Hearst or something, with a publishing "empire". So now we come to third generation, who has always had great access to wealth. A spoiled rich kid, if you will. There could even be ties to organized crime, as it mentions that 'his sister loved a thief'. It could be a crime family she's writing about...certainly an empire, and 'loved' like family. We hear then what is the key verse of the song next, where Joni writes of the cops yanking up the hookers and small-time punks & drunks. Lindsey, meanwhile, 'gets away with murder'...Joni then goes on to say: "If you're smart or rich or lucky, Maybe you'll beat the laws of man But the inner laws of spirit And the outer laws of nature No man can" So Lindsey is most likely a cocaine dealer, and he has the resources available to escape being caught. But he won't forever, he'll be betrayed and suffer eventually. The darkness is his mind & heart will consume him over time. Certainly not her most uplifting piece! ;~) Bob NP: Linda Perhacs, "Delicious" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2002 19:37:18 EST From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Graham Nash's Birthday bash sjc Thanks for the link to the fotos Kakki ;~) I have one question though, everyone seems to be pretty in pink, including our Joni. What do you think the Theme of his party was? rj ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2002 16:38:01 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Graham Nash's Birthday bash sjc Rose, I was wondering, too, and thought maybe because that shade of pink goes so well with the decor of the Madonna Inn - haha ;-) I'll keep my eye on the CSN list and see if the theme is revealed there. Kakki NP: Association at Monterey Pop - Along Came Mary (sounding quite psychedelic) > I have one question though, everyone seems to be pretty in pink, including > our Joni. What do you think the Theme of his party was? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2002 23:00:44 -0700 From: Humphreys Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2002 #57 For any of you who are interested in English folk music, Kate Rusby is a must see. She is playing in the area, I think at the Birchmere sometime this spring. Check it out if you get the chance. Very haunting and beautiful. Suzanne > Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 07:14:12 -0800 (PST) > From: Lori in MD > Subject: (NJC) Speaking of Jonatha Brooke ... > > J'Bro will be performing at the Birchmere in Alexandria, VA, next Wednesday, > Feb 13, at 7:30 pm. (Yes of course I'll be there!) > > Other Birchmere performances of possible interest to DC-area folks: > > Nanci Griffith, Feb 25, 26 & 27 > Joan Baez (with special guest Richard Shindell), Mar 9 & 10 > Richard Elliot, Mar 24 > Suzanne Westenhoefer (lesbian comedy), Mar 29 & 30 > John Gorka, Apr 4 > Fairport Convention, Apr 12 > Janis Ian, Apr 13 > Dar Williams, Apr 14 > Kate Clinton (more lesbian comedy!), Apr 26 & 27 > TOM RUSH, May 4 > Richie Havens, May 11 > > http://www.birchmere.com > > Lori > in MD > > ~ > Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! > > ------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 00:16:38 -0800 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Boston are JMDLers...........(GCC) (Gregg Cagno Content) Texas- U know you can always count on us music sluts. Houston ain't that far off for me. Paz NP-Woodstock-Pine Knob83 on 2/7/02 8:52 AM, Donna J. Binkley at djb@binkleybarfield.com wrote: > What enquiring minds want to know, is when is Gregg Cagno going to play in > Texas? > > Also, i would like to have a mini Jonifest at some point. If i did, would > anyone come this far? > > db ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2002 #42 ******************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?