From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2002 #41 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Saturday, February 9 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 041 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- (sjc)BeRN's Joni comment... [BigWaltinSF@aol.com] Today's Articles: February 8 [les@jmdl.com] Re: Who's the Wolf, and Where is Lindsay? [colin ] Re: Reading music [FredNow@aol.com] The Wolf That Lives In Lindsey ["Ron Greer" ] Madonna Inn (SJC) [CoyoteRick@aol.com] Re: Best of Covers (a question) [Gil Lamont ] Re: Best of Covers (a question) [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Best of Covers (a question) [Gil Lamont ] Anima Rising [anne@sandstrom.com] Re: Anima Rising [colin ] Joni's March, 1974 Seattle Concert! [The New Guy ] RE: Anima Rising ["Wally Kairuz" ] Re: RE: Anima Rising [BigWaltinSF@aol.com] The Wolf that lives in Lindsey. [johnirving ] Photos from Graham's B-day party ["Kakki" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 03:20:33 EST From: BigWaltinSF@aol.com Subject: (sjc)BeRN's Joni comment... Hi, all, Richard G. wrote: <> Right you are. I'm looking into a place recommeded by a friend for a quieter venue for a weekend getogether sometime soon. (Quieter, so we can really talk, get to know each other -- or maybe play/sing, if we want to do that.) And if and when Robert and i move into his mom's house, we'll always have such a place. I love that quote from BeRN! Look forward to listening to her CD -- already heard Sacha Sacket's cd last night -- but I'm getting ahead of myself -- too tired to write any more now, but I'll give a more or less complete report tomorrow. G'nite to all, Walt ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 03:23:37 -0500 From: les@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Articles: February 8 On February 8 the following articles were published: 1998: "Joni Chic" - Sunday Telegraph (Appreciation, with photographs) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/980208st.cfm 2000: "Both Sides Now" - Dallas Morning News (Review - Album) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/000208dmn.cfm 2000: "Joni Mitchell plays favorites on new album" - Chicago Sun Times (Review - Album) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/000208cst.cfm 2000: "Joni's giggly voice gone" - Philadelphia Daily News (Review - Album) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/000208pdn.cfm - ------------------------ http://www.jmdl.com/articles ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 09:01:43 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: Who's the Wolf, and Where is Lindsay? > I agree with Anne's and Wally's interpretations, but the line "girls in > chilly blouses" perhaps she means they were flimsy, very thin. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 04:18:53 EST From: FredNow@aol.com Subject: Re: Reading music In a message dated 2/4/02 8:54:27 AM, sharonbuffington@mediaone.net writes: >I can only imagine that it would be a great bother having to take the time to >write down words and notes as I went along...while having a song raging >in my head. I may want nothing more than to play it...sing it..feel it. The only thing that matters is the inspiration of the music that results, not the path taken. Mozart wrote on paper away from an instrument; it was no great bother for him because music is in the head, not in the fingers. That's how Beethoven could write after going deaf, because the music was inside his head. They both were able to "play it ... sing it ... feel it" no less fully. I write at the piano, without paper at first, until the song has a clear shape in my head, then I commit to paper in order to refine and polish, and so that others may read it quickly in order to play it. I "play it ... sing it ... feel it" no less fully. Is it a great bother to write or type words when one is communicating via wri tten word? No, for most of us it's second nature, we don't even think about it (although often we should). For folks who have learned to write music on paper it's the same -- it's fluent and doesn't impede creativity at all. Being musically literate also means having access to the inner workings of whole worlds of great ideas, just as being literate in language does. I think there is a misperception that the intellect and left-brained activity are antithetical to art. Nothing could be further from the truth ... there is great magic in the mind and when applied to the song of the heart, so to speak, great art is possible. It's a kind of romantic myth to think that art is the result only of feeling. Finally, I really don't have any dogmatic notion that everyone *must* learn to read and write music ... like I said, whatever works for the best music possible. My only peeve is with the idea that literacy in music somehow detracts from its truth. - -Fred ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 14:22:50 +0200 From: "Ron Greer" Subject: The Wolf That Lives In Lindsey hi i understood "the blizzards come and go" to refer to a state of confusion. kind of all white & swirling, & confusing, and limited vision. kind of how i also understood "the stab and glare and buckshot, of the heavy heavy snow, it comes and goes" to mean the confusing feelings when the inner wolf is having an "episode". as far as "girls in chilly blouses" - it just always struck me that it was referring to prostitutes parading around in skimpy tops even on the coldest of evenings. i guess this is a result of the prostitutes near where i used to stay in cape town. even on the coldest of nights, when i was huddled(no - not a typo for cuddled :-)) up inside my car, on my way home from work, id see these girls dressed only in panties & a tee-shirt, flashing the cars as they drove by, and really wonder how the hell they survived... ron ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 11:23:12 EST From: CoyoteRick@aol.com Subject: Madonna Inn (SJC) Stephen Reports: "Singer-songwriter Graham Nash celebrated his 60th birthday with friends and relatives amid a sea of pink. More than 150 guests attended Saturday's off-beat party at the Madonna Inn, including Stephen Stills and David Crosby, who wore a pink bunny costume." As usual, I am a few days late for the party. I travel to San Luis Obispo often, and I was just there for a Gas Company staff meeting (we have a large operating base up there). Night before last, I was at the Madonna Inn, as usual, for dinner (they have good, old-fashioned white linen food there -- famous for their filets) . A little JMDL bird had told me of the "pink party" that took place on Saturday night. Annually, I host Brad's big birthday dinner at the Madonna Inn since his birthday falls at the same time as our annual big car show (held in conjunction with the SF gay car club) which is also held in San Luis Obispo. Since we have been there every year for ten years, and he was doing it there five years before me, we've gotten to know the managers quite well. So, I asked questions, but the staff were all told they couldn't speak about the party. But, it was WILD, I was told, among some other insignificant, glossy details. After some prodding, one of my SLO pals told me he did see JM and she looked to have a great time, very chatty. That's all he would say, except that she spent the night (but wouldn't divulge which theme room she chose). If you ever make it up the California Coast -- I highly recommend the Dining Room for dinner -- if there are six of you, ask for the gold booth. If you are bucks up, stay there. My favorite is the Cave Room. Guys, you have to go to the men's room, if nothing else. Some TV show just rated it one of the best public bathrooms in the world. It's such a campy place -- and the scary thing is the owners really think it's beautiful. Well, if you like pink. The old gas station, now a gourmet shop, looks to be inspired by Bedrock architecture. The MI is one of my favorite places in California. No regrets, Coyote Rick Casa Alegre Hollywood, California "Only fools are afraid to be burned by fire..." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 09:10:38 -0800 From: Gil Lamont Subject: Re: Best of Covers (a question) Jimmy wrote: >WHAT ABOUT JONI COVERS CD #4?????? > >I don't know where Bob's brain is today. Nuriel, all you need it to get >Covers #4 and it pretty much sums up the best of > >There's Doris Day singing "BSN" >And there's Leonard Nimoy singing "BSN" >Also it has Anne Murray singing "BSN" >Included is Jim Nabors singing "BSN" >A wonderful renditon of Claudine Longet singing "BSN" >Oh, and let's not forget my personal favorite, Jim Nabors singing "BSN" > >How Bob forgot about these, I'll never know. I guess he hasn't gotten over >Kathryn Grayson singing, yes you guessed it "BSN" :~D > >You know I'm kidding Mr. Muller. Does this truly mean there's no CD of renditions of "BSN"? Bums. Gil ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 13:34:57 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Best of Covers (a question) Gil, Volume 4 really does have the songs that Jimmy mentioned. To see the full rundown of what's on each CD, point yourself to: http://www.jmdl.com/covers/byvolume.cfm And of course, if you're interested in copies of any of these, I'm happy to dupe for blanks & postage. Bob NP: Stephanie Morrison, "Today" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 10:49:42 -0800 From: Gil Lamont Subject: Re: Best of Covers (a question) Bob wrote: >Volume 4 really does have the songs that Jimmy mentioned. To see the full >rundown of what's on each CD, point yourself to: > >http://www.jmdl.com/covers/byvolume.cfm Well hush ma mouf. This is being stupidly clever on my part. >And of course, if you're interested in copies of any of these, I'm happy to >dupe for blanks & postage. Are you kidding! I may want 'em all! Gil chagrined, humbled, and grateful ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 14:41:48 -0800 (PST) From: anne@sandstrom.com Subject: Anima Rising OK, so am I the only person who can't keep from smirking when I sing this line? (I have to enunciate so clearly that it winds up distorted and saying precisely what I'm trying NOT to say...) lol Anne ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 23:43:46 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: Anima Rising okay I have repeated the two words to myself slow and fast and don't get what you mean! anne@sandstrom.com wrote: > OK, so am I the only person who can't keep from > smirking when I sing this line? (I have to enunciate so > clearly that it winds up distorted and saying precisely > what I'm trying NOT to say...) > > lol > Anne - -- bw colin DAK,BRO GC, 950i, 940,860,864,890, 260,Silver 830,860, 580 and 270, Passap 6000, Duo80. colin@tantra-apso.com http://www.tantra-apso.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 16:47:57 -0800 From: The New Guy Subject: Joni's March, 1974 Seattle Concert! Hi again! I got so tired of trying to navigate the digest, that I broke down and took Ashara's advice and re-subscribed to the total list so I could better enjoy the posts. Strangely, I dined at the Madonna Inn just a few months ago. I always love stopping in while crossing the state. Just to further introduce myself, after a brief "brush" with ya'll a couple of weeks ago, I found this group after a trade with someone for some Dirk Hamilton stuff resulted in me getting the 4 CD tree from here when the trade extended itself. (How do they do that?) I learned of this group when I saw the joni-list url on the back of the artwork that I was sent. Anyway, back in 1974 I was living in Seattle and had the pleasure of seeing Joni's concert there. I even photographed it. I was fortunate enough to trade a copy of her May 7, 1983 Verona concert to someone here for a copy of that Seattle show! Because I love designing coverart for myself (and if you visit my webpage you'll see I've taken monstrous liberties with the coverart for the 4 CD set) I realized that the time had come for a sort of "re-release" of the Seattle show with all new, original artwork based on my original photos! So ... if anyone doesn't have this show, I'd sure like to trade it (with the art) with you guys and maybe, in the process, pump up the (acoustic) volume of my Joni collection in the process. The artwork (which I haven't quite finished) will be available on my site for those of you who already have the show... unless someone is driven to trade me great music for my artwork! Nick (the new guy) http://boootlegs.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 18:55:16 -0600 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: [none] welcome nick. mack ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 23:03:49 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: Anima Rising if you say really fast it sounds like enema rising. - -----Mensaje original----- De: colin [mailto:colin@tantra-apso.com] Enviado el: Viernes, 08 de Febrero de 2002 08:44 p.m. Para: anne@sandstrom.com CC: BigWaltinSF@aol.com; wallykai@fibertel.com.ar; joni@smoe.org Asunto: Re: Anima Rising okay I have repeated the two words to myself slow and fast and don't get what you mean! anne@sandstrom.com wrote: > OK, so am I the only person who can't keep from > smirking when I sing this line? (I have to enunciate so > clearly that it winds up distorted and saying precisely > what I'm trying NOT to say...) > > lol > Anne - -- bw colin DAK,BRO GC, 950i, 940,860,864,890, 260,Silver 830,860, 580 and 270, Passap 6000, Duo80. colin@tantra-apso.com http://www.tantra-apso.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 23:15:15 EST From: BigWaltinSF@aol.com Subject: Re: RE: Anima Rising In a message dated 2/8/02 6:05:31 PM, wallykai@fibertel.com.ar writes: << enema rising. >> Or, as i just posted to Anne, in New England at least it could be misconstrued as "Enema Icing", an equally disturbing image. lol fondly, woooooawltuh ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 22:14:21 -0600 From: johnirving Subject: The Wolf that lives in Lindsey. Cool subject. I just loved this song from the moment I heard it. Brilliant Guitar work. Great use of an open tuning. By this point in her career, Joni says she writes the music then looks for themes and words that fit the melody line. Here, the melody and imagery of the guitar play are so spot on the concept of the song, it's hard to believe the concept did not come first. Wolves or no. Anyways, I too believe that Lindsay is a person (or composite of persons) addicted to cocaine, but worse, given to spells of moral lapses. As to the lyric line: "The stab." refers to injecting drugs. "and glare", that lost glazed look of someone strung out . (I know a kid hopelessly strung out on drugs. -He had this crazed look in his eyes when he was too far gone. Very scary sight.) "and buckshot" refering to the kick of the drug. "The blizzards come and go." to me, refer to a user that goes in and out of bouts of addiction. They manage a few weeks clean, then lose the battle again. "He get away with murder." I don't think she means literally, but figuratively. Addicted people can rationalize almost any kind of behavior. -Much of it easily forgotten. A great imagery song. I wonder what the melody was like when she first composed it. As I recall, back then, she mentions that during the period of making Mingus, she would work from a standard melody that nobody knows. Then, as she would write (find words) to fit the melody, she would go up or down a note to give the word a natural inflection. I picture her putting the guitar in this new tuning and with great passion discovering the chords and imagery. It's a very stark sound and she plays it to the hilt. It's almost as amazing as Yvette in English. God, what a beautiful string of chords. How does she do it????? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 23:51:54 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Photos from Graham's B-day party Check out these cute photos from the party at the Madonna Inn, including Croz in the pink bunny suit! http://www.grahamnash.com/pages/Bday.html And doesn't the lead singer in this one, all glammed- up, look like someone we know? http://www.grahamnash.com/pages/singer.html It's great to hear that Joni's partying with the boys again. Kakki, who never got inside the Madonna Inn but always wanted to stay in the Polar Bear room (which they seem to have retired) ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2002 #41 ******************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?