From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2002 #40 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Friday, February 8 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 040 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Wally B. [colin ] Today in History: February 7 [les@jmdl.com] Today's Articles: February 7 [les@jmdl.com] RE: All this talk about the Sixties ["Mike Pritchard" ] Re: The Kiva [Nuriel Tobias ] RE: Boston are JMDLers...........(GCC) (Gregg Cagno Content) ["Donna J. B] Re: Boston are JMDLers or Midwest??? ["Sharon L. Buffington" ] Re: Best of Covers (a question) [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Best of Covers (a question) [Nuriel Tobias ] Re: Best of Covers (a question) [FMYFL@aol.com] Re: Best of Covers (a question) [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Best of Covers (a question) [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Old Farts met the 60's and Abilene VLJC [Randy Remote ] Re: Re all this talk about the 60s VLJC [Gil Lamont ] [none] ["mack watson-bush" ] Re: Who's the Wolf, and Where is Lindsay? [anne@sandstrom.com] Re: Who's the Wolf, and Where is Lindsay? [anne@sandstrom.com] RE: Who's the Wolf, and Where is Lindsay? ["Wally Kairuz" ] Re: Who's the Wolf, and Where is Lindsay? [Murphycopy@aol.com] re: The Wolf That Lives In Lindsey ["Nuriel Tobias" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 08:52:17 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: Wally B. I think it is wonderful that you were there for him Jim. a truly loving act. bw colin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 04:07:52 -0500 From: les@jmdl.com Subject: Today in History: February 7 On February 7 in Joni Mitchell History: 1974: Joni performs at Boston City Music Hall - ------------------------ Search the "Today" database at http://www.jmdl.com/today ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 04:07:52 -0500 From: les@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Articles: February 7 On February 7 the following article was published: 1974: "Concert Rocks Ithaca" - Ithacan (Review - Concert, with photographs) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/740207i.cfm - ------------------------ http://www.jmdl.com/articles ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 10:57:23 From: "Mike Pritchard" Subject: RE: All this talk about the Sixties What with all this reminiscing about the 60s and 70s in the USA I thought Id mention a few important musical highlights of my formative years over the pond in the uk. I remember it as if it were yesterday. The Isle of Wight Festival, July 1970. Catching the ferry from Dover to Freshwater Bay and taking the train to the festival site (sight?). Four days of wonderful music, except for Hawkwind playing every night in the canvas city. All the big names were there; Tiny Tim, a weird American singer who, as everyone knows, took his name from a character in a book by Thackeray. Who could forget his classic rendition of Tulips from Amsterdam? And then there was John Sebastian, former leader of the Turtles, who had decided on a solo career after the success of his single Young Girl. Unforgettable. He played an acoustic set because the roadies had problems with the snow and it took so long to set up the electric bands that they alternated electric and acoustic sets. Another acoustic set was played by Al Stewart (actually with the problems of running late he was only allowed to do one song, fortunately a wonderful 15-minute song called Love Chronicles). I would have loved to have heard the electric version. Im surprised he didnt make a new version when he joined the Faces but thats how musicians are, I suppose; they move on to new material, and I have to admit that Maggie May was a belting song. And lets not forget Jimi Hendrix, thrashing his guitar around the stage and doing a unique version of God Save the Queen, backed by the Sex Pistols. Of course, not all the people agreed with his histrionics and were relieved to see him a calmer man after he joined Lambert and Ross. But lets cut to the chase; the reason we are all here  Ms Mitchells appearance. I will never forget the way she strolled onto the stage, dressed entirely in green, her boyishly cut raven hair glinting in the early morning sunshine. There she was, hunched over the piano, hammering out the opening chords of Big Orange Taxi, the hit single taken for the Mingus album, the surprise success crossover album of 1969. When she was interrupted during the intro to A Case of Blue Nun by someone she met in Matala, she smiled benignly and told the audience that she had recently attended a Hippy Wedding ceremony and said that the guests were acting like Hopis and that the audience should respect tourists because artists put their souls into their performances. When the police dragged the intruder off the stage she picked up her trusty VG-8 and played Blue, which brought the house down and sent the audience back to their tents whistling while night fell over the mountains Unforgettable, and you know there may be more mike in bcn - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 06:46:40 -0800 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: All this talk about the Sixties When the police dragged > the intruder off the stage she picked up her trusty VG-8 and played > Blue, which brought the house down and sent the audience back to their > tents whistling while night fell over the mountains Unforgettable, and > you know there may be more > > mike in bcn Sounds a bit like the Paz Chin-in. What a festival that one was! Mark E. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 10:57:30 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Lithograph entitled "Joni Mitchell" Wonder if any of the art cono-sewers out there can help me estimate the worth of this Joni item: It's a lithograph/etching portrait of Joni and is signed by the artist (Cynthia Marsh) as well as signed (on the back) by: Joni Joel Bernstein Norman Seeff Glen Christensen Any help would be appreciated. And no, this is not an item in MY possession! ;~) Bob NP: Suzanne Vega, "Machine Ballerina" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 08:12:10 -0800 (PST) From: CHRIS TREACY Subject: The Kiva To take it one step further, the Kiva is actually where Joni's bedroom was originally...now renovated into a studio. So, according to my calculations, the lush green velvet landscapes of Joni's boudoir as photographed in Architectural Digest are no more. I think it's kind of amusing that Shawn Colvin's "Fat City" was recorded in Joni Mitchell's bedroom...going for a mood, perhaps? Not sure if they got it, but a great CD nonetheless. Later On, Chris NP: Tori, 11-20-01 Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 08:50:23 -0800 (PST) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: Re: The Kiva Her ex-bedroom? LOL Thanks, Chris, for this coooool post! The Shawn Colvin part made me blush a bit:) BTW - Where can i see a photo of Joni's house? I already know what's her kitchen like (As seen in the clip for Dancing Clown where she's molsting a cat...:)) Nuri - --- CHRIS TREACY wrote: >To take it one step further, the Kiva is actually >where Joni's bedroom was originally...now renovated >into a studio. So, according to my calculations, the >lush green velvet landscapes of Joni's boudoir as >photographed in Architectural Digest are no more. > >I think it's kind of amusing that Shawn Colvin's "Fat >City" was recorded in Joni Mitchell's bedroom...going >for a mood, perhaps? Not sure if they got it, but a >great CD nonetheless. > >Later On, >Chris > >NP: Tori, 11-20-01 >Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! >http://greetings.yahoo.com _____________________________________________________________ Free email, web pages, news, entertainment, weather and MORE! Check out -------------------------------> http://wowmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 10:52:37 -0600 From: "Donna J. Binkley" Subject: RE: Boston are JMDLers...........(GCC) (Gregg Cagno Content) What enquiring minds want to know, is when is Gregg Cagno going to play in Texas? Also, i would like to have a mini Jonifest at some point. If i did, would anyone come this far? db - -----Original Message----- From: les@jmdl.com [mailto:les@jmdl.com]On Behalf Of AsharaJM@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 4:19 PM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: Boston are JMDLers...........(GCC) (Gregg Cagno Content) The infamous Jonifest Maniac himself, Gregg Cagno, is playing in Framingham at Border's on Saturday night. Anyone want to meet there and have a mini JMDL get together? We can't let the Californians have ALL the fun!! ;-) Hugs, Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 11:30:26 -0600 From: "Sharon L. Buffington" Subject: Re: Boston are JMDLers or Midwest??? Dear Donna: You and I talked the other night about having a midwest mini JoniFest. Any takers in Wisconsin, Minnesota, and surrounding states? I have a big house...five bedrooms! And I can also invite some wonderful local musicians to join us. Love and Peace...Sherrie Let me know... "Donna J. Binkley" wrote: > > What enquiring minds want to know, is when is Gregg Cagno going to play in > Texas? > > Also, i would like to have a mini Jonifest at some point. If i did, would > anyone come this far? > > db > > -----Original Message----- > From: les@jmdl.com [mailto:les@jmdl.com]On Behalf Of AsharaJM@aol.com > Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 4:19 PM > To: joni@smoe.org > Subject: Boston are JMDLers...........(GCC) (Gregg Cagno Content) > > The infamous Jonifest Maniac himself, Gregg Cagno, is playing in Framingham > at Border's on Saturday night. Anyone want to meet there and have a mini > JMDL > get together? We can't let the Californians have ALL the fun!! ;-) > > Hugs, > Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 11:42:16 -0600 From: "Donna J. Binkley" Subject: RE: Boston are JMDLers or Midwest??? I'm there! Just let me know when. db - -----Original Message----- From: les@jmdl.com [mailto:les@jmdl.com]On Behalf Of Sharon L. Buffington Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 11:30 AM To: Donna J. Binkley Cc: AsharaJM@aol.com; joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: Boston are JMDLers or Midwest??? Dear Donna: You and I talked the other night about having a midwest mini JoniFest. Any takers in Wisconsin, Minnesota, and surrounding states? I have a big house...five bedrooms! And I can also invite some wonderful local musicians to join us. Love and Peace...Sherrie Let me know... "Donna J. Binkley" wrote: > > What enquiring minds want to know, is when is Gregg Cagno going to play in > Texas? > > Also, i would like to have a mini Jonifest at some point. If i did, would > anyone come this far? > > db > > -----Original Message----- > From: les@jmdl.com [mailto:les@jmdl.com]On Behalf Of AsharaJM@aol.com > Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 4:19 PM > To: joni@smoe.org > Subject: Boston are JMDLers...........(GCC) (Gregg Cagno Content) > > The infamous Jonifest Maniac himself, Gregg Cagno, is playing in Framingham > at Border's on Saturday night. Anyone want to meet there and have a mini > JMDL > get together? We can't let the Californians have ALL the fun!! ;-) > > Hugs, > Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 10:02:30 -0800 From: Gil Lamont Subject: Re: How to count in Australian and American Hell wrote: >Australians always think it's funny to make NZers say the >number 6, because we sound like we're saying "sux". But they sound like >they're talking about carnal knowledge, so the joke is on them. For a while the writer Harlan Ellison had an Australian secretary. One of her duties was to call some agency and give an account number to a computer. The poor machine couldn't understand a word she said, so we had to teach her to count from 0 to 9 in American: Wun : Wun Toe : Too Thray : Thuree Faw : Fower Fighv : Fiyiv Sex : Six Sayven : Seven Ight : Eight Nun : Niyin Zero : Zero Gil ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 10:03:08 -0800 (PST) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: Best of Covers (a question) Bob......Is there any "Best of..." cd (or cd's) that was made out of all the covers cd's you've done so far? If so - how was the playlist made? In any case, if you were asked what were the best 10-15 Joni covers you ever heard - what would they be? It's such a sad thing about putting MP'3s in the net (and i'm talking legal MP3's that the artists want to let us hear, like maybe the list musicians covering Joni or their own music, oh that should've been heaven) - it's only these days that i understand how high is the cost for that, expensive indeed, and that's sad. I'd love it if the jmdl.com had some MP3's, but the money thing is an issue.....i think?) Thanks, Nuriel _____________________________________________________________ Free email, web pages, news, entertainment, weather and MORE! Check out -------------------------------> http://wowmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 13:27:46 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Best of Covers (a question) <> Nope (not yet) <> I compile them as I get them, except for the BSN's. There are just so many of them I stick one in every 4th or 5th song. I've got a long BSN waiting list and more coming in all the time. If there are song repetitions, I try and spread them out so as not to have BYT's & Woodstock's stuck together. <> MY top 15 (in no order): All I Want - Lydia van Dam Black Crow - Will Taylor Blue Motel Room - Lorraine Gervais Both Sides Now - Jason Falkner Conversation - Anni Clark Eastern Rain - Fairport Convention Betty Buckley - I Had A King Christine Sullivan - I Think I Understand Little Green - Jack Donahue Man From Mars - Chaka Khan P.M. Dawn - Night In The City People's Parties - Lydia van Dam River - Dianne Reeves Same Situation - Christine Collister/Clive Gregson That Song ABout The Midway - Bonnie Raitt This Flight Tonight - Rumba Club Urge For Going - Shawn Colvin Woodstock - CSNY (I had to make it 18...couldn't trim any off this list, a "Sophie's Choice" for me!) <> I've sought out and bought LOTS of music based on songs I've been able to download, either through artist sponsored or free sharing. I'm not sure it's such a sad thing. Bob NP: 4 Bitchin' Babes, "Breakfast Dishes" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 10:57:52 -0800 (PST) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: Re: Best of Covers (a question) SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: "(if you were asked what were the best 10-15 Joni covers you ever heard - what would they be?) "MY top 15 (in no order): All I Want - Lydia van Dam Black Crow - Will Taylor Blue Motel Room - Lorraine Gervais Both Sides Now - Jason Falkner Conversation - Anni Clark Eastern Rain - Fairport Convention Betty Buckley - I Had A King Christine Sullivan - I Think I Understand Little Green - Jack Donahue Man From Mars - Chaka Khan P.M. Dawn - Night In The City People's Parties - Lydia van Dam River - Dianne Reeves Same Situation - Christine Collister/Clive Gregson That Song ABout The Midway - Bonnie Raitt This Flight Tonight - Rumba Club Urge For Going - Shawn Colvin Woodstock - CSNY (I had to make it 18...couldn't trim any off this list, a "Sophie's Choice" for me!)" You've just made the playlist for the first "Best Of..." cd, Bob. "It's such a sad thing about putting MP'3s in the net >> "I've sought out and bought LOTS of music based on songs I've been able to download, either through artist sponsored or free sharing. I'm not sure it's such a sad thing." Oh my - you got me wrong, i hardly have any sad feelings towards downloading. I was talking about MP3's on jmdl.com - that it's sad that there's no MP3's of Joni/Joni covers/jmdl-musicians on the site (or any other audio) because lots of site owners i know told me that they couldn't pay so much money in order to place MP3's/audio in their sites, and that it's too damn expensive. _____________________________________________________________ Free email, web pages, news, entertainment, weather and MORE! Check out -------------------------------> http://wowmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 13:55:54 EST From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: Best of Covers (a question) In a message dated 2/7/2002 1:29:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, SCJoniGuy@aol.com writes: > MY top 15 (in no order): > > All I Want - Lydia van Dam > Black Crow - Will Taylor > Blue Motel Room - Lorraine Gervais > Both Sides Now - Jason Falkner > Conversation - Anni Clark > Eastern Rain - Fairport Convention > Betty Buckley - I Had A King > Christine Sullivan - I Think I Understand > Little Green - Jack Donahue > Man From Mars - Chaka Khan > P.M. Dawn - Night In The City > People's Parties - Lydia van Dam > River - Dianne Reeves > Same Situation - Christine Collister/Clive Gregson > That Song ABout The Midway - Bonnie Raitt > This Flight Tonight - Rumba Club > Urge For Going - Shawn Colvin > Woodstock - CSNY > > WHAT??????? WHAT ABOUT JONI COVERS CD #4?????? I don't know where Bob's brain is today. Nuriel, all you need it to get Covers #4 and it pretty much sums up the best of There's Doris Day singing "BSN" And there's Leonard Nimoy singing "BSN" Also it has Anne Murray singing "BSN" Included is Jim Nabors singing "BSN" A wonderful renditon of Claudine Longet singing "BSN" Oh, and let's not forget my personal favorite, Jim Nabors singing "BSN" How Bob forgot about these, I'll never know. I guess he hasn't gotten over Kathryn Grayson singing, yes you guessed it "BSN" :~D You know I'm kidding Mr. Muller. It really would be difficult for me to do a Best of Covers, but someday I'll try. Jimmy (off to Hotlanta for the weekend) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 14:01:30 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Best of Covers (a question) <> LOL! Like I say, Jimmy it's in the eye of the beholder. And BSN's to come include Sandler & Young (remember them from Ed Sullivan?) and Tony Jacklin the pro golfer! Bob NP: Aretha, "Do Right Woman, Do Right Man" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 14:07:01 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Best of Covers (a question) <> I'd be happy to make a "Best Of" with those selections if anybody wants a copy. Not sure if they'll all fit on a CD, but I can usually get 18 tracks on one. <> Yes, I did misunderstand...and I agree with you 100%! :~) Bob NP: Aretha, "Dr. Feelgood" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 11:27:31 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: Old Farts met the 60's and Abilene VLJC Alison E wrote: > and "steal this book" is also great, but if you're > overloaded with books at this point, rent > Steal this Movie, an excellent adaptation of the book > starring Vincent D'Onofrio (sp?) as Abby and Janeane > Garafolo as his wife Anita and a whole bunch of other > great people. I found this movie enjoyable, too, not just because I'm a Janeane Garafolo fan. I would add that Ashara's original quest was for books that would help her understand the hippies, not the 60's per se. I prefer the term counterculture-'hippy' like 'beatnik' seems to me more a media term, and in most places a term of derision akin to 'white trash', a stereotype often predicated by 'dirty'. I'm sure there are good books on this phenom, just don't know what they are. Would recommend "The Last Whole Earth Catalog" and old issues of the "Whole Earth Review" (which became "The Coevolution Quarterly" , one issue of which carried a Joni Mitchell interview (probably in the jm.com database (?) ). RR ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 11:33:40 -0800 From: Gil Lamont Subject: Re: All this talk about the Sixties Mike wrote: >What with all this reminiscing about the 60s and 70s in the USA I thought >Id mention a few important musical highlights of my formative years over >the pond in the uk. I remember it as if it were yesterday. The Isle of >Wight Festival, July 1970. Catching the ferry from Dover to Freshwater >Bay and taking the train to the festival site (sight?). Four days of >wonderful music, except for Hawkwind playing every night in the canvas >city. All the big names were there; Tiny Tim, a weird American singer >who, as everyone knows, took his name from a character in a book by >Thackeray. > >But lets cut to the chase; the reason we are all here Ms Mitchells >appearance. It's refreshing to note that the massive drug intake you must have experienced in your youth only sharpened your memory and heightened the details. You should teach history. Gil ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 19:42:17 From: "Mike Pritchard" Subject: Re all this talk about the 60s VLJC >>It's refreshing to note that the massive drug intake you must have experienced in your youth only sharpened your memory and heightened the details. You should teach history.<< there's no future in teaching history mike in bcnnp John Coltrane 'Africa Brass Sessions' - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: Click Here ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 11:49:06 -0800 From: Gil Lamont Subject: Re: Re all this talk about the 60s VLJC Mike wrote: >there's no future in teaching history Try to get past that attitude. Put it behind you. Gil NP(Still Playing) Stephen Scott, New Music for Bowed Piano ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 12:41:32 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Lithograph entitled "Joni Mitchell" My 2 centavos, Bob - do a search on the artist's background and try to determine if the autographs are authentic. Kakki NP: Jeff Beck - Shapes of Things > Wonder if any of the art cono-sewers out there can help me estimate the worth of this Joni item: > > It's a lithograph/etching portrait of Joni and is signed by the artist (Cynthia Marsh) as well as signed (on the back) by: > > Joni > Joel Bernstein > Norman Seeff > Glen Christensen ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 16:07:02 EST From: BigWaltinSF@aol.com Subject: Who's the Wolf, and Where is Lindsay? Hi, all, A short report about our micro-get-together last night here in SF (and a quick preliminary apology to Darice, that I had to leave before she arrived) to come later today, but in the meantime, a quick question: What's the story behind The Wolf That Lives In Lindsay? There are some clues, of course, but I'm not familiar with Lindsay (part of L.A/ Hollywood? If so, how come the blizzrds that come and go, or is that figurative/metaphorical?) and I don't know who the song is about who loved the ways of darkness, and whose sister loved a thief, and whose gramps loved an empire (the English?). Any volunteers? Thanks, Walt ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 10:33:48 +1100 From: wolf Subject: re: reading posts with an accent...VLJC Bree Wrote: >Sooo,Colin,John,Wolf,Hell,Laurent(French?)Willie do you guys ever read our >posts with an american accent? > heh - it might be a little early yet for me to read yer posts in accents - tho I do have a tendency to "hear" the private posts of my US pal Mary-Carol - from Canton, MO - in the dulcet tones of Marge Simpson! In reality, M-C has a beautiful, soft and elegant honey-like North American voice ....in fact, she's not a million miles from Joni, in regard to tone...(Of course I know the woman's Canadian - what, you think I don't get owt and abowt much?? ) but because she (M-C) says things like...."mmmm - 'Moon' was Kayleigh's first word!" - I hear that sort of grrrmmmmmphhhhh sound that Marge makes before she says *anything*...and then her gravelly tones reading the full message...quite distracting, really... I think I'd have to know y'all a bit better - tho (bound to be a few Homers in here somewhere....!) with regard to the New Zilland verus Orstralia thing, I can only quote my favourite New Zilland speak..... "Ah shut, Tum, I've put a dint in the Kombie.. .. " ~wolf of Oz ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 18:28:15 -0600 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: [none] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 19:19:19 -0800 (PST) From: anne@sandstrom.com Subject: Re: Who's the Wolf, and Where is Lindsay? I've always assumed Lindsay was a person. (Partly, I suppose, because I had a student in one of my classes whose name was Lindsay.) And I assume that "the wolf" is a hunger for things dangerous, illegal, etc. Anyway, that's always been my take on it. lots of love Anne ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 19:20:16 -0800 (PST) From: anne@sandstrom.com Subject: Re: Who's the Wolf, and Where is Lindsay? Oh, and I think the blizzards refer to cocaine. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 00:29:41 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: Who's the Wolf, and Where is Lindsay? ok, so lindsay is a serial killer. he's an upper-class serial killer. his family has great connections. his grandfather built a media empire, like citizen kane. his sister had an affair with an international crook, a playboy, a swindler. lindsay is really sick and he kills for the heck of it. now the police will harass the prostitutes and the homeless but they won't touch lindsay because of lindsay's connections. besides, lindsay generally kills hookers and bums so both the city and the police think it's ok; lindsay's cleaning the city. but the laws of nature don't forgive: out of the blue there's a blizzard in los angeles and lindsay dies. wally ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 23:05:22 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Who's the Wolf, and Where is Lindsay? - --- anne@sandstrom.com wrote: > Oh, and I think the blizzards refer to cocaine. That could be. I always thought of it as the madness coming over Lindsay, turning him into "the wolf". Kind of a Jeckyll and Hyde thing. Before I ever heard the song, when I just heard the name "The wolf that lives in Lindsay", I thought it was the town of Lindsay here in Ontario. What is a chilly blouse? Or is it Chile blouse? Or am I just hearing the whole thing wrong - girls in chilly blouses? I figure chilly, as in cold, as in corpse, another victim of the wolf? Possibly chili blouses (made of chili con carne? there was that artist who made a dress out of meat (yech) ... or the girl's a slob and got food all over herself, it pissed off Lindsay, so he killed her? chili con carne - chilly con carnage? I dunno... ______________________________________________________________________ Web-hosting solutions for home and business! http://website.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 23:12:39 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: RE: Who's the Wolf, and Where is Lindsay? - --- Wally Kairuz wrote: > ok, so lindsay is a serial killer. he's an > upper-class serial killer. his > family has great connections. his grandfather built > a media empire, like > citizen kane. his sister had an affair with an > international crook, a > playboy, a swindler. lindsay is really sick and he > kills for the heck of it. Every time I hear the lines, "His father built an empire/ his sister loved a thief/ and Lindsay loved the ways of darkness/ Beyond belief", I think of the song "Brother, can you spare a dime" with the line "Once I built a railroad, made it run [...]/ Once I built a railroad; now it's done." and also the non-PC rhyme "Taffy was a Welshman, Taffy was a thief". Is it just me? ______________________________________________________________________ Web-hosting solutions for home and business! http://website.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 23:12:51 EST From: BigWaltinSF@aol.com Subject: Re: Who's the Wolf, and Where is Lindsay? In a message dated 2/7/02 7:19:44 PM, anne@sandstrom.com writes: << I've always assumed Lindsey was a person. [clip] >> Of course! I should have thought of that! "There's lives a wolf in Lindsey...", a part of the *person* Lindsay who makes him do dark things. "...That raids and runs/Through the hills of Hollywood/And the downtown slums/He gets away with murder..." Now that you point it out, it makes more sense than assuming Lindsay is, say, a part of L.A. I always thought along the lines of the wolf *living* in some place called Lindsey, but raiding and running elsewhere for its jollies, etc. I gotta give it more thought. I've been listening to the song a lot lately, getting ready to approach it on the piano. Thanks for the lead, Anne! hugs, walt ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 22:12:54 -0600 From: Mark Domyancich Subject: Re: Who's the Wolf, and Where is Lindsay? I agree with Anne's and Wally's interpretations, but the line "girls in chilly blouses" has always confused me. To me this line is just filler without any real meaning. But on the other hand, girls in blouses may be a turn on for Lindsey, and the chilliness of them... well, let's just say there are certain areas of a woman's chest that react to cold weather. :-) Glad to see there's some discussion about this song! Mark NP-Garcia/Brickell/Wasserman - Nine Is Your Eyes ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 23:20:39 EST From: BigWaltinSF@aol.com Subject: Re: RE: Who's the Wolf, and Where is Lindsay? Wally, Your take on it is so good! Like Anne, I had considered the possibility that blizzard & snow = (?) cocaine, but the "stab and glare and buckshot" sounded so vividly literal to me, I sort of backed away from that. Now I'm not sure. Kind of like Anima Rising, no? hugs, walt ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 22:32:45 -0600 From: Mark Domyancich Subject: Re: Who's the Wolf, and Where is Lindsay? This is probably WAAAY out there, but maybe "the blizzards come and go" means the dwindling and flooding supplies of cocaine in the Hollywood area. I'm not sure what to think of "the stab and glare and buckshot" though. Deer have a certain glare in their eyes in the wilderness especially when they spot a hunter or other prey or danger, and buckshot is used to kill them. Another thing about "glare" - people on cocaine have a glare in their eyes or a glossy look to them. "The stab" - I have no idea. Mark > From: BigWaltinSF@aol.com > Reply-To: BigWaltinSF@aol.com > Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 23:20:39 EST > To: wallykai@fibertel.com.ar, anne@sandstrom.com, joni@smoe.org > Subject: Re: RE: Who's the Wolf, and Where is Lindsay? > > Wally, > > Your take on it is so good! Like Anne, I had considered the possibility that > blizzard & snow = (?) cocaine, but the "stab and glare and buckshot" sounded > so vividly literal to me, I sort of backed away from that. Now I'm not sure. > > Kind of like Anima Rising, no? > > hugs, > > walt ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 01:57:50 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: Who's the Wolf, and Where is Lindsay? yeah, but it's ''the stab and glare and buckshot of the heavy snow''. i always think of real snow when i hear this line, it does sound like a blizzard. the ''chilly blouses'' is a puzzling line. maybe they're hookers dressed in light sheer blouses in the middle of a snowstorm. i saw hookers in the bronx wearing only stockings in the middle of a snow storm once. but then the girls would be chilly not the blouses. or could you say it that way? ''that blouse is too chilly for this kind of weather.'' i don't know. I'm not a native speaker so chilly sounds like ''very light and sheer'' to me but maybe it is totally unidiomatic!!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 21:15:09 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Graham Nash's B'day party SJC Stephen wrote: > "Singer-songwriter Graham Nash celebrated his 60th birthday with friends and relatives amid a sea of pink. More than >150 guests attended Saturday's off-beat party at the Madonna Inn, including Stephen Stills and David > Crosby, who wore a pink bunny costume." This is such a crack-up. Good to hear the 60 year olds from the 60s are still having wild fun. The Madonna Inn is a long-time infamously campy-kitschy establishment in the wilds of Central California filled with garish theme rooms. Here's the website where you can check out their rooms http://www.madonnainn.com/tour/index.asp > Rumour has it that Joni drove up from LA in her new Lexus ;-) Would have loved to have been a fly on the wall last weekend ;-) Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 01:19:13 EST From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: Who's the Wolf, and Where is Lindsay? In a message dated 2/8/02 12:00:05 AM, wally writes: << but then the girls would be chilly not the blouses. or could you say it that way? >> If you can say the girls were wearing warm blouses, I can't imagine that "chilly" would be unacceptable, or even incorrect. Unusual, yes -- but in this context I think it expresses what Joni wants to say better than "flimsy" blouses or "one hundred per cent silk." (And at least if you say it with an American or Canadian accent, people will know what the hell you're saying!) --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 02:07:35 -0500 From: "Nuriel Tobias" Subject: re: The Wolf That Lives In Lindsey There's a famous wildlife museum in CA called The Lindsey. It was built in the 50's, btw. Could be interesting to think about a wolf that's living in a museum (where it's protected) - only to sneak out at night in order to kill. The wolves that "sing" with Joni remind me of the DED artwork. When i first saw the DED cover back then i thought that those were dogs. But now i know it's wolves. Real wolves. Nuriel - -- _______________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup Win a ski trip! http://www.nowcode.com/register.asp?affiliate=1net2phone3a ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2002 #40 ******************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?