From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2002 #39 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Thursday, February 7 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 039 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Today's Articles: February 6 [les@jmdl.com] Today in History: February 6 [les@jmdl.com] Re: A Case of Yoo Hoo! ["Bree Mcdonough" ] Re: Reading music [FredNow@aol.com] Re: A Case of Yoo Hoo! ["hell" ] RE: Today in History/ british columbia sjc ["Wally Kairuz" ] Message from Maggie [AsharaJM@aol.com] I Wish I Knew The Words Again [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] ckua ["Kate " ] Covers, Volume 26 - last call! [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: I Wish I Knew The Words (How Low) [Nuriel Tobias ] Re: I Wish I Knew The Words (How Low) [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] The Troub [Steve Dulson ] RE: Beltway Minifest?? ["Donna J. Binkley" ] Re: logo contest [AsharaJM@aol.com] Re: Joni Live [Gil Lamont ] Re: ckua ["Norma" ] Re: I Wish I Knew The Words (but i'm too busy singing:)) [Nuriel Tobias <] Failin' fingers and piano vs. guitar (sjc) [BigWaltinSF@aol.com] The Kiva [Nuriel Tobias ] Re: The Kiva [Les Irvin ] Re: The Kiva [Nuriel Tobias ] (sjc) and Bob Dylan on Rubber Band Between Teeth and Music Stand... [BigW] Hissing in Abilene... [BigWaltinSF@aol.com] Boston are JMDLers...........(GCC) (Gregg Cagno Content) [AsharaJM@aol.co] Re: Hissing in Abilene... [Nuriel Tobias ] oz/nz accents [colin ] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2002 #38 [KLCass21@aol.com] All this talk about the 60's now & Joni in Good Housekeeping?! ["kerry" <] [none] [] Re: Wally B. ["Jim@JoniMitchell.com" ] Graham Nash SJC ["Stephen Epstein" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2002 03:19:45 -0500 From: les@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Articles: February 6 On February 6 the following articles were published: 1966: "Two Single Acts Survive a Marriage" - Detroit News (Biography, with photographs) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/660206dn.cfm 1993: "Classical Crossover" - Economist (Review - Concert) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/930206e.cfm 1999: "Witness of Life" - Irish Times (Interview) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/990226it.cfm 2000: "Both Sides Now" - Entertainment Weekly (Review - Album) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/000206ew.cfm 2000: "Standard Surprises" - New York Now (Review - Album) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/000206nyn.cfm - ------------------------ http://www.jmdl.com/articles ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2002 03:19:45 -0500 From: les@jmdl.com Subject: Today in History: February 6 On February 6 in Joni Mitchell History: 1974: Joni performs at Radio City Music Hall in New York City. She introduces the song 'For the Roses' with this story (transcribed by Bob Muller): "All my life I've had kind of a battle going, a running duality between the spiritual & the sensual, you know, and I decided it was time the spiritual won out, at least for a little while...I looked around and my place had gotten kinda Tchoctky'ed up, over-opulent, and I thought that I had strayed off of some kind of path, like I was losing something, I don't know... So I trekked back up to Canada, bought myself a piece of land, decided to put my money where my mouth was, get myself genuinely back to the garden, or at least give it a try, you know? I've always been fascinated by the story of Adam & Eve, not because that was when women became a lower class of citizen, you know, I mean, (applause) No, no, the story never meant that to me, I thought that it was a beautiful poem written by a guy with a lot of future projection. You know, a lot of times it's interpreted by evangelists and different clerical people that I've talked to, as a place that existed a long time ago somewhere along the outskirts of the Nile or Jerusalem, something that disappeared, and I'd always thought it was kinda the story of the beginning of knowledge, you know? But I guess I'm side-tripping, running off at the mouth here, but... What it always kinda meant to me was, that, Man, the Beauty of Man, was his superiority while he still maintained his humility, which was before he *realized* that he had a virtue. Because as soon as you've got a virtue and you KNOW about it, it's gone, forget it...(laughter) So, he began as a tender of the creatures, not as a superior, he was sort of gentle with them, then one day he woke up and he looked at himself, and said 'Goddamn, they got better plumage, and furs, and everything', so he started to drape himself. Now I like to drape myself with those sort of things from time to time, but sometimes it makes me feel guilty, and that's what happened this particular morning. I woke up with a treacherous case of middle class guilt, so I decided to move myself to some deserted area, and grow myself a garden, and get back to it! Even an artichoke in a terrarium, anything...(laughter) My house was in the process of being built, I took a lot of hard furniture, it was like a house of correction I was building, everything was hard, you had to sit straight up in it, you know? I was sort of working on the Thoreau theory too, you know, like one chair for myself and one for society...no, three chairs, one for solitude, one for company, and one for society, that's right.... So I moved back up there and I was staying in this little cabin, and one night I heard what sounded to me like applause, it was like this clapping outside my door, you know, so I stepped out onto the steps, and....took a bow (Joni laughs)....(applause)....I stepped out and I looked up and right in front of my door was this tree called the Arbutus tree, which I think is really my favorite all-time tree...it's got a really smooth, orange bark, and really smooth rubbery kind of leaves, and it's a very independent tree, just has totally its own will, you can't...you can't tame it, you know? Like there's this street in Vancouver called Arbutus Street, and they tried to transplant a whole lot of Arbutus trees to line it, you know, just like Elm street's always lined with elms, and maple street's lined with maples...so they put in all these arbutus trees, and they just said 'forget it', you know, just kamikaze'd out......." More info: http://www.jonimitchell.com/Fame.html - ------------------------ Search the "Today" database at http://www.jmdl.com/today ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2002 00:32:01 -0800 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: A Case of Yoo Hoo! Hi William,did you see her last night? >Bree, No worries about shouting out a request for Diana Krall to do "A Case >of You". Yoo hoo..A case of yoo hoo!! Thank god I don't have to do this in conservative and proper Cincinnati!! It's funny you mention this because a friend was driving me home tonight and he put in a D.K. CD. I told him about my plans to get Ms.Krall to sing A CASE OF YOU. (in case she was resistant to it) .....he begged me not to make a fool of myself ......he'll be happy to know that I won't have to now. (we even discussed about me making a sign saying...PLEASE SING ACOY.....I'd have it rolled up,in my pants leg and bring it out at the opportune moment) I hope this question isn't too stupid:Do you live in Glasgow,Scotland? There is a Glasgow,Kentucky. If the playlist is the same as this evening in Glasgow she will do >it! Yoo Hoo! >William >NR - Shadows and Light by Karen O'Brien. Any thoughts on the book? I haven't read it yet. Can't buy it here,not yet anyway. YOO HOO TO YOO TOO, Bree _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 05:01:08 EST From: FredNow@aol.com Subject: Re: Reading music In a message dated 2/4/02 5:57:17 PM, jamiezoob@freeuk.com writes: >And surely Hendrix never learned to read music! I mean, he played left >handed most of the time (is that right or am I just bigging up us lefties >among the group!) Not just left-handed, but also upside down! (high string on top, low on bottom). - -Fred ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 23:10:10 +1300 From: "hell" Subject: Re: A Case of Yoo Hoo! William wrote: > NR - Shadows and Light by Karen O'Brien. Any thoughts on the book? I just finished this recently - far and away the BEST Christmas gift I received! I enjoyed it a lot, but found it a little "padded out" in places, especially some of the detail about Charles Mingus and Georgia O'Keefe. Still a very well put together biography, although the ending was also odd. I turned the page expecting to read more, and there was nothing, it just kind of stopped! Still (despite the criticism) the best so far, by a mile - comparing it to Brian Hinton's is like comparing "Of Mice and Men" to "See Spot Run"! Hell - still waiting for the absolutely definitive work on Joni - the autobiography! ____________________________ "To have great poets, there must be great audiences too." - Walt Whitman hell@ihug.co.nz Hell's Personal Photo Page: http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hell/main/personal.htm Visit the NBLs (Natural Born Losers) at: http://www.nbls.co.nz ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 08:06:16 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: Today in History/ british columbia sjc les, this piece of joni history is so nice! by the way, stephen epstein showed me the arbutus trees in BC last year! i must have taken a million pictures of them. BC is so incredibly beautiful. i just saw a movie that is supposed to take place in anywhere, usa but it was so clearly vancouver. the library, the island where the market and the art school are [granville? i can't remember now], even UBC, everything was there and it was like living february 200 all over again. what a pleasant memory! wally, thank you for the transcription bob muller - -----Mensaje original----- De: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]En nombre de les@jmdl.com Enviado el: Miircoles, 06 de Febrero de 2002 05:20 a.m. Para: joni@smoe.org Asunto: Today in History: February 6 On February 6 in Joni Mitchell History: 1974: Joni performs at Radio City Music Hall in New York City. She introduces the song 'For the Roses' with this story (transcribed by Bob Muller): ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2002 11:35:15 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: Today in History/ british columbia sjc > and it was like living february 200 all > over again. Wally, you look terrific for your age! I had no idea! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 08:41:12 EST From: AsharaJM@aol.com Subject: Message from Maggie Maggie asked me to pass this along to all of you: <> ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2002 08:53:16 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: I Wish I Knew The Words Again <> And to further complicate things, even the way she sings it ON THE CD is not correct. She sings the "punch drunk" chorus twice which is not Hart's lyric. No major crime, just an interesting footnote. Bob NP: Buddy/Julie Miller, "The River's Gonna Run" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2002 07:52:44 -0600 From: "Kate " Subject: ckua You tell 'em, Brett! CKUA has got quite a reputation internationally as well, from what I hear. So are you in Edmonton, Calgary, or somwhere else on the planet? I'm just out of Edmonton, and CKUA is on my radio at 6 every weekday morning. And I love the Sunday programming, and ... well, I won't go on ... but I could ... YOU know. Kate du Nord Weird Aunt Kate's Letter Out http://www.connect.ab.ca/~katej ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2002 10:16:50 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Covers, Volume 26 - last call! Hey folks, thanks to all who have ventured a guess for a free copy of Covers, Volume 26. Time is running out - the contest ends Friday PM. To qualify, just tell me a song from a Joni record. My current leader is pretty close but he can be beaten! :~) Bob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 07:30:53 -0800 (PST) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: Re: I Wish I Knew The Words (How Low) - --- SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: "And to further complicate things, even the way she sings it ON TH "She sings the "punch drunk" chorus twice which is not Hart's lyric. No major crime, just an interesting footnote." Good point. I'm almost sure the lyrics to "At Last" as sung by Joni are not at all the way they were in the original (All the earlier versions go by the original but not Joni's). Not long ago i heard Joni singing 'Night Ride Home" live - found the MP3 on AudioGalaxy - and at one point during the song she plays a very wrong chord. Now you know she always says there's no such thing as a wrong chord? Well, on that live version of Night Ride Home, she stops her singing (but still playing the guitar) and says "Sorry about that" while laughing a bit and when she says that her voice is sooooo low. I mean, realy, if her singing voice on TTT (the song) when she sings the lyric "You can't tame the tiger" is the lowest her voice has ever got to - on that live version she sounds like a black boxer. Scary one. :) _____________________________________________________________ Free email, web pages, news, entertainment, weather and MORE! Check out -------------------------------> http://wowmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2002 10:48:11 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: I Wish I Knew The Words (How Low) <> She does a similar thing on "Last Chance Lost" in the Troubadours of Folk show in '93. And probably my fave is the one version of "A Melody In Your Name" I have, where she goes REALLY low, I mean in the basement, and then stops to retune (calling the string a little devil), and you hear that string s-t-r-e-t-c-h-i-n-g and you know it's going to pop, and it does. And Joni laughs the cutest little laugh... Thankfully she gets a new string, completes the tuning and plays the song. Sadly, it's cut and all we get is an edit, but hey, it's better than nuttin'! Maybe when we get a proper Joni Box Set I can hear it in its entirety. Bob NP: Mike Flowers Pops, "Light My Fire" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 08:05:02 -0800 From: Steve Dulson Subject: The Troub Kakki wrote: >I don't think recordings from the '68 >or '69 Troubadour shows have surfaced here (although some lucky and diligent >traders may have these and I'd bet Mr. Dulson attended a few of the shows!). Unfortunately not. Not that I didn't try, but they sold out almost instantly. My first visit to the Troub was 8/21/70 to see The Dillards and Longbranch/Pennywhistle (who were, you will recall, John David Souther and Glen Frey). Troub owner Doug Weston had an innovative (or exploitative, depending on your viewpoint) booking policy. The first time you did a gig at the club, you signed a contract saying that you would return to play x number of nights FOR THE SAME FEE if Doug wanted you back. That is why Joni played the Troub in '72, when she was already filling concert halls. Hmmm...maybe I should take a look at my contract with Kate Bennett... :) - -- ######################################################## Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA steve@psitech.com "The Tinker's Own" http://www.tinkersown.com "The Living Tradition Concert Series" http://www.thelivingtradition.org/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 10:33:32 -0600 From: "Donna J. Binkley" Subject: RE: Beltway Minifest?? Hey Lori!! Man would i love to make this, but i already have another commitment for that weekend. I saw Tom Prasada-Rao at the Kerrville Folk Festival a few years ago, he's awesome, i bought his cd. Have fun and please post pictures so the rest of us can Jonifest vicariously through you. ha ha! Love Donna - -----Original Message----- From: les@jmdl.com [mailto:les@jmdl.com]On Behalf Of Lori in MD Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 10:02 PM To: joni@smoe.org Cc: janinesherman@hotmail.com; johnsonjs@earthlink.net; john.van.tiel@wxs.nl Subject: Beltway Minifest?? Well, here's an idea for a Beltway minifest (and I'm sending this just once w/o NJC in case any Joni-onlies would like to get together, too): Gregg Cagno is scheduled to perform at the River Road Unitarian Church in Bethesda, MD (inside the Beltway), on Sunday, March 17. Other performers include Tom Prasada-Rao, and Bill Parsons & Eric Weinberg. Performances begin at 7 pm. (See www.greggcagno.com for more info.) I've been planning for awhile to attend -- want to make it a minifest? Lori in MD (near DC) P.S. - John & Claudia, will you be in the U.S. that weekend? ~ Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 11:43:28 EST From: AsharaJM@aol.com Subject: Re: logo contest Marianne wrote: > Why don't a few of us dontate a prize for the winner of the contest. I have > > a poster of Joni that can go in the prize basket. If it's okay with you > Ashara, we can open this up to anyone else who would like to add to the > prize. > > It can be joni related or other wise, what do you think? Put me down for > the poster and I will bring it to the Jonifest. That would be great! And remember everyone, we still need a bunch of stuff for the giveaways and raffle at Jonifest. I hardly have anything so far, and it's such a great part of the Fest! Please send giveaway/raffle items (preferably Joni-related, but other "related" items are fine) to me. E-mail me if you need my address. Hugs, Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2002 09:12:26 -0800 From: Gil Lamont Subject: Re: Joni Live Kakki wrote: >Well Gil, it's me that's fuzzy again! You've got to stop smoking that Orange Pekoe. Please. Is it time for an intervention? Gil ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 10:51:45 -0700 From: "Norma" Subject: Re: ckua well, so far that makes THREE, count'em 3 of us, who know about GOOD music every day!! from an even further north Norma On 6 Feb 2002 at 7:52, Kate wrote: Date sent: Wed, 06 Feb 2002 07:52:44 -0600 Subject: ckua From: "Kate " To: joni@smoe.org Send reply to: "Kate " You tell 'em, Brett! CKUA has got quite a reputation internationally as well, from what I hear. So are you in Edmonton, Calgary, or somwhere else on the planet? I'm just out of Edmonton, and CKUA is on my radio at 6 every weekday morning. And I love the Sunday programming, and ... well, I won't go on ... but I could ... YOU know. Kate du Nord Weird Aunt Kate's Letter Out http://www.connect.ab.ca/~katej ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 10:28:02 -0800 (PST) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: Re: I Wish I Knew The Words (but i'm too busy singing:)) SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: "NP: Mike Flowers Pops, "Light My Fire" OK, Bob, once and for all - what is this place your at where there's always something playing? :) I mean - Mike Flowers Pops? :) Are you for real, man? :)))) Nuri _____________________________________________________________ Free email, web pages, news, entertainment, weather and MORE! Check out -------------------------------> http://wowmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 13:31:57 EST From: BigWaltinSF@aol.com Subject: Failin' fingers and piano vs. guitar (sjc) Hi, all, I was just reading Janine's story, and others' reactions, about Joni's playing piano at the Toronto Hommage, and it got me thinking. I know Joni had a bad early experience with piano lessons, and that she probably "thinks" in guitar rather than in piano, which she didn't really start experimenting with seriously until, what, 1969, BUT Since I have substantial nerve damage (neuropathy) in my hands from AIDS and from the drugs I have to take to stay alive, I was surprised to find when I picked up piano again recently for the first time in 25 years, that while my typing speed and accuracy have plummeted to 20-30% of their pre-damage years, I can play piano more like 80% as well. (Which may, alas, say more about how bad I was before, but anyhoo...) So given Joni's nerve damage from Post-Polio Syndrome and the difficulties that presents w/r/t her guitar playing, maybe she *should* return to composing more on the piano. IwishIwishIwish. ('Course, I don't care if she decides to compose on a rubber band held between her teeth and a music stand, as long as she continues playing and composing.) Looking forward to seeing some jmdlers tonight, Walt ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 10:43:00 -0800 (PST) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: The Kiva The Kiva, the place where Joni's last albums (not BSN) were recorded - anybody knows anything about this place? The article text search has no idea - me too - but one of you happy people should know. Thanks, Nuriel _____________________________________________________________ Free email, web pages, news, entertainment, weather and MORE! Check out -------------------------------> http://wowmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2002 11:45:38 -0700 From: Les Irvin Subject: Re: The Kiva At 2/6/2002 11:43 AM, Nuriel Tobias wrote: >The Kiva, the place where Joni's last albums (not BSN) were recorded - >anybody knows anything about this place? The article text search has no >idea - me too - but one of you happy people should know. It's actually in Joni's home in Bel Air... Les ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 11:20:00 -0800 (PST) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: Re: The Kiva Les, so help me God, when i asked about the Kiva i wanted to end the post by saying that i wouldn't be surprised if the Kiva is how Joni's named her living-room:) Honest! The albums recorded at The Kiva do sound homey - or should i say roomy? I mean, one can realy feel he's in the same room with Joni, you know what i mean... Thank you, Les! p.s. - Here's what i found about the term Kiva: (taken from the net) "The kiva is always the center of the mandala. It is the secret, hidden place where the sipapu meets the sky, the safe place where the past meets the future. The kiva is a place of refuge, a sanctuary from the unpredictability of the elements, a private and safe space combining the practical and spiritual dimensions of existence in one form, a womb of culture and vision, a special opening into the reality of mother. Kivas have been used like living rooms, the focal point for local clans, a place to stay warm on a winter's day or to keep cool during the summer months while relaxing. The larger kivas provided a place to smoke and discuss community business. At certain times of year, they were used as holy places, accomodating many people visiting from outside the canyon. At these times, there would be chanting, recounting of oral histories, relevant stories and teachings in preparation for rituals. The circle around a central fire pit is a natural mandala, tending to bring the participants into visual contact and intimate communication. The kiva is an architectural form designed to host the spirit of council fires and gatherings of all kinds which had once taken place outdoors or in caves and natural rockhouses." Nuriel - --- Les Irvin wrote: >At 2/6/2002 11:43 AM, Nuriel Tobias wrote: >>The Kiva, the place where Joni's last albums (not BSN) were recorded - >>anybody knows anything about this place? The article text search has no >>idea - me too - but one of you happy people should know. > >It's actually in Joni's home in Bel Air... >Les _____________________________________________________________ Free email, web pages, news, entertainment, weather and MORE! Check out -------------------------------> http://wowmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 15:22:50 EST From: BigWaltinSF@aol.com Subject: (sjc) and Bob Dylan on Rubber Band Between Teeth and Music Stand... Hey, Sharon, On the list you wrote: [clip]<> At first when you mentioned playing Joni on the accordion, I thought you were kidding (what's next, bagpipes?) -- but now I'm wondering... Do you really? It's hard for me to imagine. How does it sound? I break into giggling fits, think of Bob Kelly as JM with Georgia O'Keefe on the kazoo and Neil Young on the nose flute, and then you radiantly walking on stage with The Tart (lol) for a resplendent encore including Both Instruments Now, and Urge for Fleeing... I gotta stop. I'll wake up Robert in the other room. Gasping, Walt ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 16:18:15 EST From: BigWaltinSF@aol.com Subject: Hissing in Abilene... Yo, Mack (and all), Mack wrote [clip]<> I was just earlier today telling SCBob of my disgust with the fact that my copy of DJRD, one of my favs, is defective, too. Not sure how i could have missed it, but I didn't catch it on first listening, cuz I was just listening for major dysfunction -- skips, and the like. But on quieter listening, i discovered that the beginning of Overture is inaudible, so you have to push up the volue (I know it's supposed to be quiet, but I mean truly inadible), then abruptly it jumps up say 20 db, then the cd is fine until halfway thru P. Plains, when it dives again in the orchestral part and then picks up again about 30 seconds before the vocal/jazz band part starts up. Really annoying, but when i want to listen to DJRD, I just make sure I'm near the volume control. For you audiophiles: How does kind of thing happen? Bad pressing? Someone asleep at the wheel? At least, unlike poor Mack, I live in a city, and can get any of Joni's at any of several locations. 65 miles to Abilene!!! That's like driving the distance from SF to San Jose, and getting...Abilene. Hope no one finds your hidden Hissing, so you can get it next time, Mac. Hugs, Mac (and if I haven't said it lately, I hope your working situation, your parents and you are all well), Walt ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 17:19:17 EST From: AsharaJM@aol.com Subject: Boston are JMDLers...........(GCC) (Gregg Cagno Content) The infamous Jonifest Maniac himself, Gregg Cagno, is playing in Framingham at Border's on Saturday night. Anyone want to meet there and have a mini JMDL get together? We can't let the Californians have ALL the fun!! ;-) Hugs, Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 15:51:54 -0800 (PST) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: Re: Hissing in Abilene... Hi Walt. Dear Walt, you probably get to hear other DJRD's cd's every now and then, on other people's stereos, right? Are you sure the copy you own sounds "worse" than other DJRD'd cd's (or vinyls)? I'm asking because you wrote that: " the beginning of Overture is inaudible, so you have to push >up the volue (I know it's supposed to be quiet, but I mean truly inadible), >then abruptly it jumps up say 20 db" - and, frankly, Walt, the 20 db jump up is exactly how the song was recorded (but only if i understood what you meant and i think i have, at least i hope i have). Same thing happens in Paprika Plains, and again, what you describe as a defect is is exactly the way it was produced/mixed. I may be wrong, sorry if i am, so i had to ask you if you know any other copies that sound "better". Mack...if you could tell me what's wrong with the new Hissing you bought (The email Walt was talking about didn't reach me, you see) - i'd love to know, and if it's not a "wrong imperssion" about the record being defective - well, i may have a pleasing solution for ya'. Love, Nuriel - --- BigWaltinSF@aol.com wrote: >Yo, Mack (and all), > >Mack wrote [clip]< >Lawns which I have wanted for the longest time. Drove home, anticipatory to > >the utmost, and put it on. It is defective. Bummed out. >> > >I was just earlier today telling SCBob of my disgust with the fact that my >copy of DJRD, one of my favs, is defective, too. Not sure how i could have >missed it, but I didn't catch it on first listening, cuz I was just listening >for major dysfunction -- skips, and the like. But on quieter listening, i >discovered that the beginning of Overture is inaudible, so you have to push >up the volue (I know it's supposed to be quiet, but I mean truly inadible), >then abruptly it jumps up say 20 db, then the cd is fine until halfway thru >P. Plains, when it dives again in the orchestral part and then picks up again >about 30 seconds before the vocal/jazz band part starts up. Really annoying, >but when i want to listen to DJRD, I just make sure I'm near the volume >control. > >For you audiophiles: How does kind of thing happen? Bad pressing? Someone >asleep at the wheel? > >At least, unlike poor Mack, I live in a city, and can get any of Joni's at >any of several locations. 65 miles to Abilene!!! That's like driving the >distance from SF to San Jose, and getting...Abilene. Hope no one finds your >hidden Hissing, so you can get it next time, Mac. > >Hugs, Mac (and if I haven't said it lately, I hope your working situation, >your parents and you are all well), > >Walt _____________________________________________________________ Free email, web pages, news, entertainment, weather and MORE! Check out -------------------------------> http://wowmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2002 23:57:51 +0000 From: colin Subject: oz/nz accents yes there is a difference between an oz accent and a kiwi one. Now i lived in oz for many eyars, my formative ones, and use to speak with a nroad oz accent. Hiwver, i find it hard to tell the 2 accents apart. Kiwies tend to spek better tho even that is not a give a way. One way to tell is when they say the word 'chip as in fish and chips. the Kiwi will say fish and chups. Wehn i first moved to where I now live, I thought my esteate agent had a speech impediment because she says 'confoozed' instaed of confused. I later came to realise this was the accent around here. - -- bw colin DAK,BRO GC, 950i, 940,860,864,890, 260,Silver 830,860, 580 and 270, Passap 6000, Duo80. colin@tantra-apso.com http://www.tantra-apso.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 20:03:07 EST From: KLCass21@aol.com Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2002 #38 In a message dated 2/6/2002 3:02:46 AM Eastern Standard Time, les@jmdl.com writes: > I'm using up my requests to air a few Joni songs that don't make the radio > very often - all having to do with things current in world, particularly as > they concern the world war that's being engineered by our leaders: > > The Fiddle and the Drum > The Beat of Black Wings > Tax Free (the little island south of Florida is now populated by guys in > orange suits in bird cages) > No Apologies > The Three Great Stimulants > > I think Joni would be pleased to hear her war stuff all in one show Glad to hear Joni is still getting airplay somewhere in this world. You are right, I think she would be very pleased. Funny, these choices are among my favorite JM tunes, and I never really thought of them as "war stuff", but the connection is obviously there. Now I wonder... why I am drawn to her more tragic tales? Wolf/Lindsay...Magdelaine...Sex Kills...Fiction...Edith...and the darkest (IMHO) JM tune - Sire of Sorrow. Can anyone else see beauty in the dark? Kurt NP: Dreamland demo - THANKS BOB! (The whistles are awesome!) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 19:18:32 -0600 From: "kerry" Subject: All this talk about the 60's now & Joni in Good Housekeeping?! Ashara wrote: >Anyone want to start a JMDL commune? ;-) This is freaky. Hell and I were just discussing this yesterday! At first we thought it would be great. Money wouldn't be a problem because we have every occupation represented. But then we decided that no one would want to work. We would all just want to sit around all day playing/listening to music and talking! On a semi related note, I was reading "Good Housekeeping" in the dentist's office (It was all they had!) and there was a picture of a god-awful shawl on a fashion page. The caption read something like: "Flowers, fringe and folk music. Bring out your inner Joni Mitchell. Embroidered shawls are back." Peace & Love, Kerry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2002 22:59:59 -0500 From: Subject: [none] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2002 20:56:43 -0800 From: "Jim@JoniMitchell.com" Subject: Re: Wally B. on 2/5/02 12:00 AM, onlyJMDL Digest at les@jmdl.com wrote: > Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 20:00:43 EST > From: FMYFL@aol.com > Subject: Wally B. > > I was just reading in my journal from 2 years ago, and saw that on Feb. 4th > Wally Breese passed away. I can't believe that 2 years have gone by so > quickly, yet I still think of Wally every time I sign on the computer. If it > wasn't for this wonderful man, there would be no JoniMitchell.com, and no > JMDL, and I wouldn't have met so many wonderful people. > > Thank you Wally. Thanks for helping me learn so much about Joni. I know > you're keeping track of us, and you know what a great job that J.J. and Les > are doing. > > Jimmy I've been very touched reading the many loving remembrances of Wally that have been posted recently. He would have turned 50 today. The 2-years-since moment arrived unexpectedly here, although I'd been thinking about Wally on and off all day. At around 9:25 PM two years ago (the examiner didn't get here until after midnight so the official date is Feb. 4), he slipped away as I sat a few feet away, working on JoniMitchell.com at the computer. Two years later, to the minute, I was sitting at the computer doing the same thing, albeit a lonelier exercise than it used to be. Probably since I was sitting there at the computer when 9:25 rolled around, I found tracing my steps over the next few hours: "Oh, now I was calling the hospice nurse." "This is when the coroner got here." "Hmm, now we were just together on the couch having a last couple moments together before everybody started arriving." It was still happening the next morning -- he was all over the house so we listened to some Joni stuff on the stereo and I played some of the stuff he liked on the guitar. I usually talk with him more often around the Golden Gate Bridge, but it was nice of him to stop by. I miss Wally a lot. He was a sweet man and I wish more of you had been able to get to know him personally -- although I think many of his best qualities managed to pop out onscreen for all of us to enjoy. He's left a wonderful gift for us all. Thanks again for brightening my memories with your posts, everybody. jj ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 01:06:34 -0500 From: "Stephen Epstein" Subject: Graham Nash SJC From today's Vancouver Sun: "Singer-songwriter Graham Nash celebrated his 60th birthday with friends and relatives amid a sea of pink. More than 150 guests attended Saturday's off-beat party at the Madonna Inn, including Stephen Stills and David Crosby, who wore a pink bunny costume." Rumour has it that Joni drove up from LA in her new Lexus ;-) Best to all, Stephen in Vancouver ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2002 #39 ******************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?