From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2002 #31 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Wednesday, January 30 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 031 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Today's Articles: January 29 [les@jmdl.com] Re: JMDL Digest V2002 #44 [The New Guy ] Re: Joni & Jackson, sittin' in a tree... [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] A quote I always think of... ["Erica Trudelle" ] "Watching our hairlines recede, we vain darlings..." [BigWaltinSF@aol.com] "Friends and foes" [BigWaltinSF@aol.com] joni, jackson and pianos [Murphycopy@aol.com] new photos from my party! [spont@moravian.k12.pa.us] Re: new photos from my party! ["Norma" ] Re: new photos from my party! ["Mark or Travis" ] Re: new photos from my party! I S A V I R U S ! ! ! [Murphycopy@aol.c] Re: Joni & Jackson, sittin' in a tree... ["Kakki" ] Re: [JMDLLEZ] Photos from my party - virus mutation ["Sharon L. Buffingto] Re: joni, jackson and pianos [FredNow@aol.com] Re: Joni, Monet and Tom Cruise ["Jamie Zubairi" ] Re: Truly, madly, deeply Joni moment ["Jamie Zubairi" ] Re: joni, jackson and pianos [Murphycopy@aol.com] JMDL Digest V2002 #45 Virus warning (It's My Party) [RobSher50@aol.com] Re: joni, fred and pianos ["Kakki" ] jm live [joemezz@yahoo.com] Re: joni, jackson, and pianos [Abbymusique@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 03:01:07 -0500 From: les@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Articles: January 29 On January 29 the following articles were published: 1974: "WMMR Retrospective Transcription" - WMMR (Interview - Audio Transcription) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/740129wmmr.cfm 1998: "Rummaging Through the Attic" - Cornell Daily Sun (Biography) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/980129cds.cfm - ------------------------ http://www.jmdl.com/articles ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 00:19:20 -0800 From: The New Guy Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2002 #44 >Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 08:45:26 -0500 >From: Jerry Notaro >Subject: Re: (njc) One more thing -- Was it Tim or Jeff Bickley? > >BigWaltinSF@aol.com wrote: > > > I'm catching up on all my computer must-do postits in one session, > no? This > > is a quick one -- the name of the wonderful singer who died way prematurely > > in the '70's -- was it "Tim" or "Jeff" Buckl(e)y? And is his stuff > available > > at all? > >Both Tim, and his son Jeff, were wonderful singers who died prematurely: >Tim in >the 70's, Jeff in the 90's. Though Jeff's career was much shorter than his >father's, both have many recordings available. Best bets: Jeff Buckley, Grace; >Tim Buckley Anthology from Rhino. > >Jerry > >np: Shawn Colvin - All Through the Night Hello, group. This is my first post after lurking a bit. I think Tim Buckley's live one, Dream Letter, has to qualify as a pretty good introductory album too, although I certainly find the full-length flow of Goodbye And Hello and Greetings From L.A. indescribably pleasurable to listen to. Some of his other albums are: Happy Sad, Lorca, Starsailor, Peel Sessions '68 (2), Honeyman, Sefronia, Blue Afternoon and Look At The Fool. His cover of Fred Neil's Dolphins is a joy to hear. I've never listened to his son's music, but I did cut his hair once. He was a brash kid. Obviously they both died way to early. Warmest regards, Nick N/P: Roxy Music - When You Were Young Trade Stuff: http://www.boootlegs.com/ Text Only Pages: http://www.boootlegs.com/bootxt01.htm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 08:24:35 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni & Jackson, sittin' in a tree... <> That's true, because I think Joni keeps all those secrets deep in her own heart. Whenever an interviewer tries to 'pry' about those sorts of things, Joni's quick to shut it down or divert. So the only clues we get are typically from others who let something slip tangentially. I figured you'd appreciate that little illumination on one of your FTR songs! ;~) I suppose the Joni-Jackson relationship is so ugly in the wake of "Not to Blame" and the resulting tabloids that it's not mentioned much. As for "Trouble Child", I really don't think it's ONLY about Crosby. Surely his experiences were an influence. Like so many of her songs, it's a composite (which is how WE can relate to it) that folks want to point at an individual. Bob NP: Lucky Dube, "Life In The Movies" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 11:19:58 -0500 From: "Erica Trudelle" Subject: A quote I always think of... "Joni is not a person you stay in a relationship with. It always goes awry, no matter who you are, it's an inevitable thing."-David Crosby, 1997 interview with Wally (Breese). I read this on the Joni Home Page a couple of years ago and it often rings in my head while listening to her. I know it's a very simple and some what odvious conclusion, but for some reason it really stands out to me. As I listen to her fall in and out, in and out of love, I just always come back to Crosby's words. I just thought I'd share a Joni moment with everyone. Take care, Erica _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 14:32:26 EST From: BigWaltinSF@aol.com Subject: "Watching our hairlines recede, we vain darlings..." AbbyMusicque wrote: <> I couldn't help but noticed that in PWWAM, when she sang that line -- I get the feeling it's her favorite line in the song, the way she tends to draaaaaaag it out -- she glanced over at LK, who is losin' his, too. Although obviously she didn't know LK when she wrote the line -- he would've been, what, 20 at the time, still in college? The line seems to have "gained weight" as history goes by. It's a safe, one -- a lot of men's hairlines recede, including mine (slowly but surely) -- anyway, although it's a bit of a zinger, it seems to have (imho) more than a glimmer of fondness and hopefulness to it, too... A hope that she'll be with someone long enough to *notice* that his hairline's receding. Smiling, Walt ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 14:48:30 EST From: BigWaltinSF@aol.com Subject: "Friends and foes" Hey again, Kakki, You mentioned the line: "They open and close you, then they talk like they know you, they don't know you, they're friends and they're foes, too" from trouble child in the context of Davic Crosby's parasitic hangers-on when he was drugged out. That fascinates me. When I got C&S, I knew little of JM's personal life, and I assumed she was talking to someone she knew who was in a mental hospital, and the "friends and foes who opened and closed" him were shrinks! Interesting, how her lines continue to gain meaning as the years go by... Walt ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 15:13:48 EST From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: joni, jackson and pianos Can someone explain what makes the sound of Joni's piano playing unique? Surely she doesn't retune her pianos! Yet, unless someone is covering one of her songs, no one else's piano playing sounds like hers to me . . . with one exception -- Jackson Browne! A couple of times I have had my radio in the scan mode and it stopped on "Stay (Just a Little Bit Longer)" and I thought for a split second that it was Joni playing. Hmm. Coincidence . . . or did Jackson learn something from the master? --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 15:35:34 -0500 (EST) From: spont@moravian.k12.pa.us Subject: new photos from my party! Hello! My party... It was absolutely amazing! I have attached my web page with new photos! If you can please make color prints of my photos. Thanks! [demime removed a uuencoded section named www.myparty.yahoo.com which was 661 lines] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 14:04:17 -0700 From: "Norma" Subject: Re: new photos from my party! this is a virus!!! On 29 Jan 2002 at 15:35, spont@moravian.k12.pa.us wrote: Date sent: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 15:35:34 -0500 (EST) From: spont@moravian.k12.pa.us To: joni@smoe.org Subject: new photos from my party! Send reply to: spont@moravian.k12.pa.us Hello! My party... It was absolutely amazing! I have attached my web page with new photos! If you can please make color prints of my photos. Thanks! [demime removed a uuencoded section named www.myparty.yahoo.com which was 661 lines] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 13:11:55 -0800 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: new photos from my party! - ----- From: "Norma" Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 1:04 PM Subject: Re: new photos from my party! > this is a virus!!! We got it also but Norton AV did it's job and saved the day. MarkE's Travis of Mark or Travis ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 16:15:23 EST From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: new photos from my party! I S A V I R U S ! ! ! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 13:21:10 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Joni & Jackson, sittin' in a tree... Hi Bob, > That's true, because I think Joni keeps all those secrets deep in her own heart. Whenever an interviewer tries to 'pry' about >those sorts of things, Joni's quick to shut it down or divert. So the only clues we get are typically from others who let >something slip tangentially. Just to clarify, Joni was personally interviewed for the CSNY, Crosby, etc. books and she talks very open and freely! Maybe she feels more at ease when the purpose of the discussion is not as focused directly on her. > As for "Trouble Child", I really don't think it's ONLY about Crosby. Surely his experiences were an influence. Like so many >of her songs, it's a composite (which is how WE can relate to it) that folks want to point at an individual. Right, I think his circumstances at the time provided her a vivid inspiration for a not uncommon theme that I think most everyone has experienced ("friends" who maybe are dragging you down, taking advantage of you, etc., and the part you play in it all). I have not had nearly the colorful life of Crosby but I could totally relate to the song in many ways, too. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 13:31:25 -0800 (PST) From: Lori in MD Subject: Re: new photos from my party! - DO NOT OPEN EMAIL and/or ATTACHMENT! It's a virus. For more information, go to: SYMANTEC: http://www.sarc.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.myparty@mm.html McAfee: http://vil.mcafee.com/dispVirus.asp?virus_k=99332&n Take care (and beware), Lori in MD ~ Yahoo! Auctions Great stuff seeking new owners! Bid now! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 23:01:59 +0000 From: rjt1@btinternet.com Subject: new photos from my party! Hello! My party... It was absolutely amazing! I have attached my web page with new photos! If you can please make color prints of my photos. Thanks! [demime removed a uuencoded section named www.myparty.yahoo.com which was 661 lines] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 23:02:42 +0000 From: rjt1@btinternet.com Subject: new photos from my party! Hello! My party... It was absolutely amazing! I have attached my web page with new photos! If you can please make color prints of my photos. Thanks! [demime removed a uuencoded section named www.myparty.yahoo.com which was 661 lines] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 15:12:26 -0800 (PST) From: Lori in MD Subject: Photos from my party - virus mutation Gads! Now it's posing as: From: Domino6/Servers/OhioHealth%OHIOHEALTH@ ohiohealth.com Subject: Report to Recipient(s) Oh well. Better make sure your anti-virus software is up-to-date. Lori, disgusted in MD ~ Yahoo! Auctions Great stuff seeking new owners! Bid now! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 17:31:28 -0600 From: "Sharon L. Buffington" Subject: Re: [JMDLLEZ] Photos from my party - virus mutation I was sooo glad I had my virus protection on scanning e-missives. Lori in MD wrote: > > Gads! Now it's posing as: > > From: Domino6/Servers/OhioHealth%OHIOHEALTH@ ohiohealth.com > Subject: Report to Recipient(s) > > Oh well. Better make sure your anti-virus software is up-to-date. > > Lori, disgusted > in MD > > ~ > Yahoo! Auctions Great stuff seeking new owners! Bid now! > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > [] > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > JMDLLEZ-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 18:33:04 EST From: FredNow@aol.com Subject: Re: joni, jackson and pianos Murphycopy@aol.com wrote: >Can someone explain what makes the sound of Joni's piano playing unique? >Surely she doesn't retune her pianos! Yet, unless someone is covering one >of her songs, no one else's piano playing sounds like hers to me . . . with >one exception -- Jackson Browne! Joni's piano style is very guitaristic, and more specifically, Joni-guitaristic -- complete with its dense and complex tight clusters of consonant dissonance embedded within more traditional chord shapes. My own piano playing is very influenced by Joni ... I hear it, others may or may not. I've also been influenced by many others like Keith Jarrett, Bill Evans, Herbie Hancock, Lyle Mays, Paul Bley, Art Lande, Fred Hersch so the Joni influence may be too many layers down to readily detect. - -Fred Simon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 00:01:12 -0000 From: "Jamie Zubairi" Subject: Re: Joni, Monet and Tom Cruise I saw the film last night.... Interesting.... Joni's Ice Offering is prominent in his bedroom while Edmonton get the same screen space as the Monet. I thought I wasn't going to like the film half way through and it nearly brought me back from the brink of not liking it towards the end. Make up your own minds and watch it, just for the Joni moments. As with Mr Cruise's performance, I can never believe his sex scenes. Ms Cruz is kinda reduced, but I guess it's not 'her' film. Ms Diaz is maniacal which is great but slightly too much. Other than the weak psychodrama that it turns out to be at the end, it's fine. Peace Jamie Zubairi - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 8:03 PM Subject: Joni, Monet and Tom Cruise > From the review for Vanilla Sky, the new Tom Cruise movie in this week's > London Time Out. > > Quote: > > Claude Monet and Joni Mitchell hang side by side on the wall. There are > Godard posters in the bedroom, and a larger than life vanity portrait dominates > the drawing room...No, it's probably not a good sign when you find yourself > reflecting on the art decoration in a Tom Cruise movie. > > Unquote > > Anybody seen the film? What is the painting? > > ~Kevin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 00:20:58 -0000 From: "Jamie Zubairi" Subject: Re: Truly, madly, deeply Joni moment Yes, to look at, but I did say fantastic ACTRESS. Only idiots like Minnie Driver who (allegedly) equate beauty with talent. July 2001, if you want to know.... - ----- Original Message ----- From: colin To: Catherine McKay Cc: Jamie Zubairi ; Bree Mcdonough ; ; JMDL Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 12:38 AM Subject: Re: Truly, madly, deeply Joni moment > > In many > > ways Juliet is pretty ordinary, > > when did you last se an optician? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 19:26:30 EST From: ZZScotty@aol.com Subject: VIRUS: New Photos From My Party Do not download any attachments with this description. I believe it is a virus. Sean ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 17:58:07 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Subject: RE: don juans restless daughter >>Listening to Kate's cd while typing this. It is good!!<< Thank you so much Bree! Kate, with many more digests to go... ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 18:32:47 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Joni and Astrology (long) interesting...joni's a scorpio sun & pisces moon...i have a pisces sun & a scorpio moon...i wonder what her other planets are in... to me, this explains her sometimes shyness & sometimes boldness... ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 21:37:01 EST From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: joni, jackson and pianos In a message dated 1/29/02 6:36:03 PM, FredNow@aol.com writes: << Joni's piano style is very guitaristic, and more specifically, Joni-guitaristic -- complete with its dense and complex tight clusters of consonant dissonance embedded within more traditional chord shapes. >> Thanks, Fred. This makes sense to me, although I never would have been able to articulate what the Joni difference is. Take care, --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 21:43:35 EST From: RobSher50@aol.com Subject: JMDL Digest V2002 #45 Virus warning (It's My Party) Everyone! I just received an email from my sister who works at a government installation warning about downloading anything saying "It's My Party". I noticed it was attached to the last digest. Please do not download anything from the digest. Better to be safe than sorry! Sherelle ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 20:15:45 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: joni, fred and pianos Fred wrote: > Joni's piano style is very guitaristic, and more specifically, > Joni-guitaristic -- complete with its dense and complex tight clusters of > consonant dissonance embedded within more traditional chord shapes. Hmm, today as I was looking at the Jimmy Webb songwriting book I saw the opening page "How To Write a Song" by Harry Nielson. It starts out: "If you write it on guitar Place your guitar upon your knee If you write it on piano Don't do that Place your fingers on the strings Of your guitar, not your piano If you write it on piano" I do hear Joni's influence in your music, Fred, and some Lyle, too. I just received the "Homeland" CD tribute to those affected by 9/11 which you recently mentioned for which you wrote the title song. It is SO gorgeous. I hope you can play here in L.A. one of these days so that we can see you live. I highly recommend this beautiful collection which can be ordered at http://www.jazziz.com with proceeds going to the Red Cross. Every song is a complete stunner. Kakki NP: Kindness of Strangers - Leni Stern (from "Homeland") ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 22:51:15 -0500 From: joemezz@yahoo.com Subject: jm live has anyone seen joni live? if so can you tell me (us) about it? - - - - - - - - - In the middle of difficulty lies opportunity. - Albert Einstein mySite http://theMezz.com techHeads http://MezzMart.com sportsFans http://ToddSports.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 23:39:31 EST From: Abbymusique@aol.com Subject: Re: joni, jackson, and pianos I'm a big fan of Jackson Browne as well as Joni, but I don't really think their piano styles are alike, although I like his very much. There is a kind of melancholy mood in Joni's playing that is reflective, a little other-wordly, whereas, in my opinion, Jackson Browne's piano is more down-to-earth. Joni's music also sounds to me like she is constantly changing keys alot, but Browne is pretty much in one key at a time per song, with minor modulations. One artist I think sounds a bit like Joni in his piano playing is Marc Cohn. I'm curious if he is a fan of hers or not, because I think I hear a similarity there on some of the tracks from his three albums. It always bugged me a bit, though, when he mentions W.C. Handy in "Walking in Memphis", because it makes me think of Joni's line, "W.C. Handy, I'm rich and I'm...." from "Old Furry Sings the Blues." Did he mention W.C. Handy because he got the idea from her? I wonder. Abbymusique ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2002 #31 ******************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?