From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2002 #29 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Monday, January 28 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 029 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Today's Articles: January 27 [les@jmdl.com] Re: the birthday of Joni's Daughter? [Mags N Brei ] Rock Master Class and Alexander Memorial; Atlanta 11/07/98 ["J.David Sapp] The SF Bay jmdl Get-together... [BigWaltinSF@aol.com] Re: Rock Master Class and Alexander Memorial; Atlanta 11/07/98 [SCJoniGuy] Re: Truly, madly, deeply Joni moment ["Jamie Zubairi" ] Re: Truly, madly, deeply Joni moment [Catherine McKay ] Re: Mark Saunders; re:re: sweet unexpected Joni moment ["Timothy Spong" <] Re: Truly, madly, deeply Joni moment [Catherine McKay Subject: Re: the birthday of Joni's Daughter? It is highly unlikely that the adoptive parents would have known the baby's birth name. Secrecy was key in making adoptions work back then. As with many reunions, there are usually a lot of moments of synchronicity. Mags, been there. - --- Catherine McKay wrote: > --- "Sharon L. Buffington" > wrote: > > I have a question. Did Joni name her daughter or > > did her adoptive > > parent's name her? > > > > Peace.....Sharon > > > > The answer is - both. Joni named her Kelly. The > adoptive parents named her Kilauren. I wonder whether > they knew what her original name was - do they reveal > that when you adopt a baby? The names do sound pretty > much alike. I wonder whether the adoptive parents > were thinking of Lauren, knew she had been originally > named Kelly and put them together? > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > Web-hosting solutions for home and business! http://website.yahoo.ca ===== it's a miracle! Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 10:24:22 -0600 From: "J.David Sapp" Subject: Rock Master Class and Alexander Memorial; Atlanta 11/07/98 Well thanks to Bob first of all. 3 Great Stimulants on Rock Master Class is simply astonishing. What a revelation. Joni's performance is intimate and soulful & Klein's piano is exquisite. Every fan of Joni needs to hear this. It takes my breath away. I also like the Man from Mars rendition, but I think the TTT version is equally valid - and after listening to Joni's description of the sounds she was trying to capture (see Morning Becomes Eclectic 3/27/98) I think the TTT version is more successful in reproducing those sounds. Now on to Alexander Memorial; Atlanta 11/07/98. What a magnificent concert. Joni's voice is in top shape. I love the way she attacks Magdelene Laundries after the rude idiot screams. Chris Botti is fantastic - is he better than Isham? BSN (not a favorite of mine) is wonderful. It sounds to me as if she was already planning the subsequent orchestration by the way the accompaniment sounds in concert. Was Joan playing the guitar on that tune? And of course "HAPPY BIRTHDAY DEAR JONI" Anyway this is all GREAT stuff. peace, david ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 15:51:01 EST From: BigWaltinSF@aol.com Subject: The SF Bay jmdl Get-together... Hi, all, Sorry about not labelling this "njc" but quite a number of SF Bay jmdlers are Joni-onlies and wouldn't get this message otherwise... It's been over a week since I last said anything about this -- sorry -- been busy on the home front -- but as it stands: We seem to be (regionally speaking) a group of two natures: Those just wishing to say hi, chat a little, and listen to music played by others; and those wishing to get together and jam and party at least somewhat hearty. My suggestion: Those wishing to chat a little and listen to new / breakthrough / struggling singer-songwriters do their stuff, should show up at the Bazaar Cafe in San Francisco at around 6 on Wednesday, Feburary 6th (or earlier if you want more time to eat and or chat -- it's hard to order food and impossible to talk once the music starts, unless you want to wait until late in the evening). The Bazaar Cafe is at 5927 California Street, in the Richmond District (just north of Golden Gate Park). At the very least, I, my partner Robert and Richard G. will be there. The Bazaar is a wonderful place, the kind of place Joni might have played in 35 years ago, with good, cheap food and a cozy atmosphere. The singers on that night will be the MC, a charming and gifted local singer-songwriter named Garrin Benfield, plus two others. I've been to this First Wednesday thing three times so far, and have yet to be disappointed. Now a substantial number of people can't do a weekday, and a substantial number of people want to be able to jam. Sometime in the near future, if all goes well, (please keep your fingers crossed -- we are), Robert and I are going to be moving into his mom's house -- it needs work, but it's a house, with lots of room and a piano (yay!!!) -- and when that happens, we will have a place of sufficient size that we can have jmdl get-togethers more or less at will, and jam into the night, at least until the police come. :-) In the meantime -- alas, we can't do a jam at the Bazaar on a Friday or Saturday night, because they always have professionals doing gigs on those nights (the Bazaar has a piano, too, so it's too bad). I'm going to inquire at the two local cafes in my neighborhood. Momi Toby's is a 20-second walk from my place, and a 2-minute walk for John G. (another jmdl member who I think mostly lurks -- hi, John), but I don't know whether it allows people to play and sing and stuff, especially on weekends. There's also, in my neighborhood, the Sidewalk Cafe, and I haven't scoped it out at all yet. I'll check out both places real soon, and report by, say, midweek. In the meantime, if there's anyone in the Bay Area who has, or knows of, a place big enough (and preferably piano-supplied, for me and Russ B. and presumably others) to accomodate us on a weekend night, PLEASE contact me, or write us all at the list (please DON'T do "njc", or some people won't get the news), and let us know. I'm sure we can work something out soon. Thanks for your patience, hugs to all, Walt ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 16:21:11 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Rock Master Class and Alexander Memorial; Atlanta 11/07/98 << Chris Botti is fantastic - is he better than Isham?>> Certainly as good, if you ask me! His playing is splendid on that tour, I didn't feel slighted in the least. And Greg Liesz - well, he's just one of the most in-demand session players on the scene anyway. That band...can Joni pick the players or what? <> No, David, Greg was playing the acoustic while Joni sang with no instrument in hand. She told us that night that they had worked it up the day before the show. I think she was foreshadowing what her next move would be... And you're certainly welcome...I wouldn't have them to share in the first place if folks didn't share with me. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 00:48:16 -0000 From: "Jamie Zubairi" Subject: Re: Truly, madly, deeply Joni moment Yes, Truly Madly Deeply is one of my favourite films. Juliet Stevenson is a fantastic actress as is Alan Rickman (you might see him in Harry Potter) and Michael Maloney (with whom I have actually played football (soccer to you American folk! ;-)) And the part where they sing comes just before the 'explanation' of the title of the film. Written by Anthony Minghella, who directed 'The English Patient'. Jamie Zoob np: BSN on DVD - ----- Original Message ----- From: Bree Mcdonough To: ; ; Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 3:14 PM Subject: Re: Truly, madly, deeply Joni moment > >--- Catherine McKay wrote: > > > I hadn't seen the film "Truly, madly, deeply" until I > > > rented it last night. And whaddya know? alan Rickman > > > and Juliet Stevenson sing "A case of you". Probably > > > not news to some of you, but there you go. > > > >I forgot all about that Catherine! And a fine film it is. > >a real tear jerker. > > > >Mags. > >np: Present Moment Days > >with the hopes that Mr. Cagno will win :-) > > > Mr.Cagno is on his way to my house....I ordered "Present Moment Days" > yesterday. > > Bree > > > > > > > > > > > > > >______________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > Web-hosting solutions for home and business! http://website.yahoo.ca > > > > > >===== > >it's a miracle! > >Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! 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Peace Much Joni Jamie Zoob - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Cc: Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 6:15 PM Subject: Re: Take 2/Refuge of the Roads > Erica, > > You mentioned the visual imagery in ROTR...now this song may not be as mysterious, but it IS certainly filled with striking images! > > When I first heard the song I was a mere stone's throw away from the Winn-Dixie on Six Forks Rd. that we shopped at, so that perked up my ears from the start. > > I've also loved the image of seeing the calendar in the service station with the picture of the Earth on it, and using it to put things in perspective. > > Musically, I love the last notes of Jaco's bass where he just takes it down, down, down...crank it up and listen to it sometime. > > I think the only time Joni's sung: > > "He drank & womanized" was on Hejira. Whenever she sang it live, she always sings "A drunk with sage's eyes". And on the '83 tour (the US shows anyway) she usually introduced it with a story about driving through Louisiana and seeing those Michaelangelo clouds. > > Joni always closes out an album with a particularly appropriate song, and I don't see where ROTR is an exception to the rule. > > Bob > > NP: Ani, "Grey" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 17:47:51 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Truly, madly, deeply Joni moment Alan Rickman is also the "bad guy" in Die Hard, and the Sheriff of Nottingham in some version of Robin Hood. (I think he's incredibly sexy.) And Juliet Stevenson is wonderful - one of the things that I love about British films is that people are chosen for their acting ability and not their looks. In many ways Juliet is pretty ordinary, but her face is radiant in the film and she's so natural. - --- Jamie Zubairi wrote: > Yes, Truly Madly Deeply is one of my favourite > films. Juliet Stevenson is a > fantastic actress as is Alan Rickman (you might see > him in Harry Potter) and > Michael Maloney (with whom I have actually played > football (soccer to you > American folk! ;-)) > > And the part where they sing comes just before the > 'explanation' of the > title of the film. > > Written by Anthony Minghella, who directed 'The > English Patient'. > > Jamie Zoob > > np: BSN on DVD > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bree Mcdonough > To: ; ; > > Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 3:14 PM > Subject: Re: Truly, madly, deeply Joni moment > > > > >--- Catherine McKay > wrote: > > > > I hadn't seen the film "Truly, madly, deeply" > until I > > > > rented it last night. And whaddya know? alan > Rickman > > > > and Juliet Stevenson sing "A case of you". > Probably > > > > not news to some of you, but there you go. > > > > > >I forgot all about that Catherine! And a fine > film it is. > > >a real tear jerker. > > > > > >Mags. > > >np: Present Moment Days > > >with the hopes that Mr. Cagno will win :-) > > > > > > Mr.Cagno is on his way to my house....I ordered > "Present Moment Days" > > yesterday. > > > > Bree > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >______________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > Web-hosting solutions for home and business! > http://website.yahoo.ca > > > > > > > > >===== > > >it's a miracle! > > >Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! 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I should add that this information is as of 2+ to 5+ years ago, for Margo as quasi-solo performer with Mark as accompanist, and might be different for Mad Agnes as of 2002. Tim Spong Dover, Del., U.S.A. >---------------------------Original messages--------------------------- > >Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 00:18:49 -0800 >From: Michael Paz >Subject: Re: Sweet unexpected Joni moment > >Hey Deb is Mark Saunders a percussion player? There was a Mark from New >Orleans that moved to NYC way back. > >Michael > > >on 1/25/02 8:16 PM, Deb Messling at messling@enter.net wrote: > > > I book musical acts for my library, and tonight I had the pleasure of > > listening to Mad Agnes, a wonderful folk trio consisting of Margo > > Hennebach, Adrienne Jones and Mark Saunders (East Coasters, if you ever >get > > a chance to catch them, DO!) The music was just unutterably lovely, and > > the crowd was great, and these were musicians that my husband and I > > followed around when we were first dating, so the whole evening was >sweet > > and nostalgic. So, I bought one of Margo's solo CDs, and it's >unutterably > > lovely, and I get to track 12, which according to the label is the end, >but > > then there's a track full of silence and then track 14 is an a cappella > > version of "Song to a Seagull." Very nice, too. Bob, do you have this >one? > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Deb Messling -^..^- > > messling@enter.net > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >------------------------------ > >End of onlyJMDL Digest V2002 #28 >******************************** > >------- >Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org >Unsubscribe by clicking here: >mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe >------- >Siquomb, isn't she? _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 22:06:37 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Truly, madly, deeply Joni moment - --- colin wrote: > > In many > > ways Juliet is pretty ordinary, > > when did you last se an optician? I've only seen her in that film and I thought she was kind of androgynous-looking at first - certainly not the typical "beauty" (big teeth, big hair) that you'd see in a N-Amer. flick. When I say ordinary-looking, I mean "normal" looking - she could be the woman next door - she looks like someone you could meet and really talk to, not like someone who's constantly worrying about her looks and her weight - a regular person. But, I do have really crappy eyesight and was recently diagnosed with a cataract, so maybe that explains it. ______________________________________________________________________ Web-hosting solutions for home and business! http://website.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 19:33:06 -0800 (PST) From: Lori in MD Subject: Re: Kilauren's birthdate (JM poetic license?) Hell mused: > Maybe it was a simple case of "born with the moon in cancer" sounding > better than "born with the sun in aquarius"!? It's surely possible (although probably none of us want to believe that Joni would take "poetic license" in a song about her daughter's birth and adoption). After all, "The masking tape tangles" certainly worked better than "The electrical tape tangles" would have, however inaccurate. (Okay, Joni did sort of save it with, "It's sticky and black," but after 25 years it's STILL a pet peeve!) Lori NPIMH: Electricity ~ Yahoo! Auctions Great stuff seeking new owners! Bid now! ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2002 #29 ******************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?