From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #399 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Friday, December 28 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 399 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- California ["mike pritchard" ] James singing [KCooper984@aol.com] Re: California [RoseMJoy@aol.com] covers volume 24 & Bob's singing voice [RoseMJoy@aol.com] fatcat+-passion+-Joni+-list=? ["Bree Mcdonough" ] Re: California [Rick and Susan ] Re: joni only content [WARREN901@aol.com] Re: Re: joni only content [] Re: Re: joni only content ["mack watson-bush" ] Re: joni only content [WARREN901@aol.com] Just like to chat you sometime ["William Waddell" ] only-joni content ["fatcats2" ] Re: only-joni content [TimandMaryPowers@aol.com] Re: only-joni content [TimandMaryPowers@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 13:00:33 +0100 From: "mike pritchard" Subject: California Joni sang in 'California' "I took a plane to Spain, went to a party down a red dirt road, lots of pretty people there reading Rolling Stone, reading Vogue". Does anyone know where this place was? The 'pretty people' reference suggests the hippy Ibiza of the late 60s but it may be somewhere else. Any ideas? mike in bcn np Brad Mehldau 'progression' ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 09:21:27 EST From: KCooper984@aol.com Subject: James singing Hi Everyone, I'm coming out of perpetual lurkdom to tell everyone that I found a link so you can all hear James singing "Have yourself a merry little Christmas". This is my favorite Christmas song too.... kind of sad and melancholy like "River". Love it! Love the list, love you all, Merry Christmas, Happy New Year, Love you Joni!!!!!! Sue Cooper http://www.npr.org/programs/morning/features/2001/dec/james_taylor/011219.jame s_taylor.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 09:25:21 EST From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: California In a message dated 12/27/01 7:01:09 AM Eastern Standard Time, ink08@hotmail.com writes: > Joni sang in 'California' "I took a plane to Spain, went to a party down a > red > dirt road, lots of pretty people there reading Rolling Stone, reading > Vogue". > Does anyone know where this place was? The 'pretty people' reference > suggests > the hippy Ibiza of the late 60s but it may be somewhere else. Any ideas? > > No idea Mike. I just know about her time spent in Crete, Greece with some hippies in the caves of Matala until the police swept them out. This taken from an article in the JMDL database. Self-critical as always, she had spent 1970 in full retreat from stardom; in Greece, Spain, France, and Jamaica, getting herself back to the garden, maybe, living in a cave some of the time, she said. Still the urge for going. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 11:27:16 EST From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: covers volume 24 & Bob's singing voice Volume 24 is great Bo, thank you! You'll go down in history as being the Joel Bernstein of Joni covers. My estranged husband and I listened to you sing Blue Motel Room & E&TK last night on the JMDL CD's and you're not too shabby. Very sexy voice you got there Bob. I think you missed one of your callings in life Bob, but hardly. It's been recorded. love, rose ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 08:48:35 -0800 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: fatcat+-passion+-Joni+-list=? In my last post regarding this subject in places I was being a tad facetious. What I find fascinating about the JMDL is the passion that people have for Joni. I want to know these people BECAUSE of THEIR passion for her. I thought before joining that I was the most passionate Joinphile. HA HA HA I woke up to a rude awakening.....I really pale in comparison to some here. We come from different backgrounds, colors, shapes, but we all are drawn to JONI. WHY? This is fascinating!! But at the same time fatcat we/I should not presume you find this as interesting. And you do miss out on a lot in JONI-ONly digest.... there are some incredibly funny and intelligent people on the list. Bree _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 18:55:27 +0100 From: "mike pritchard" Subject: Re: california Thanks for the info. I'll wait and see if anyone else has any ideas. It isn't remotely important, just curiosity on my part. all the best, mike ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 09:54:41 -0800 From: Rick and Susan Subject: Re: California > From: mike pritchard > Joni sang in 'California' "I took a plane to Spain, went to a party down a red > dirt road, lots of pretty people there reading Rolling Stone, reading Vogue". > Does anyone know where this place was? The 'pretty people' reference suggests > the hippy Ibiza of the late 60s but it may be somewhere else. Any ideas? Ibiza is my first guess although there is no specific mention of it in the Shadows and Light biography. It would make sense in that Ibiza was definitely on the hippie backpack trail in those days: James Taylor had visited there a year or two earlier (Carolina in My Mind) and I missed them both when I visited in late 1970. Ranger Rick ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 15:09:24 EST From: WARREN901@aol.com Subject: Re: joni only content greeting joniphiles ! i'm surprised anyone was offended by the post from " fatcats2!" i'm new to the list ,here just a few weeks, and found his objection perfectly reasonable. ( " fatcats2 " is the one who should be offend by such a negative reaction from the list memebers ! ) i will admit i too am guilty of a NJC christmas greeting and will do better in the future. ( it seemed appropriate at the time .) i 'm actually new to the internet as well, but the list did specify " joni content " only for this list. i see nothing wrong with the familiarity between list members when posting their joni info, maybe we have violated the premise of the list and should try to stick to the joni content only rule. frankly i don't agree with the thought that joni would have somehow thought " fatcats2 " was in the wrong, or the idea that a good joni fan would not have made the post. i can't beleive these comments were even made ! i feel a need to apoligize for the remark even though i didn't make it ! . ) enough said...let's get back to the subject at hand...JONI !!! jonily yours, warren keith p.s. welcome to the list " fatcats2. 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JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI > JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI > JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 13:33:03 -0800 From: "Guy Brown" Subject: Unreleased 1971 Neil Young 'Sweet Joni' MP3 for your download (JC) I remastered the best sounding copy of this rare song I could find in my collection. If you haven't heard this you should. Download it from www.rain.org\~guyb Save the file NY Sweet Joni Live 1971.MP3 to your local machine. Its about 3MB in size, and is made as a 192K MP3 which, frankly sounds as good as the original. All the recordings I could find all seem to come from the same performance - 1971 (?) Bakersfield, CA. It is an audience recording, and before the song NY tells the audience he has never played this song before to anyone. Perhaps this is the one and only performance of it in existence. Maybe some NY expert can enlighten me. I'll leave the MP3 up at rain.org for a week or so. Enjoy. Sweet Joni, from Saskatoon. Here's a ring for your finger. It looks like the sun but feels like the moon. Sweet Joni, from Saskatoon. Don't go, don't go too soon. Who lives in an old hotel? Near the ancient ruins. Only time can tell, time can tell. Go easy the doorman said. The floor is slippery. So watch your head. The message read. Sweet Joni, from Saskatoon. Here's a ring for your finger. It shines like the sun but feels like the moon. Sweet Joni, from Saskatoon. Don't go, don't go too soon. Lyrics by Neil Young (c) Broken Arrow Music 1971 Merry Xmas and a happy, happy new year to all at JMDL from GUY ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 22:44:35 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: joni only content > but the list did specify " joni content " only for this list. i see > nothing wrong with the familiarity between list members when posting their > joni info, maybe we have violated the premise of the list and should try to > stick to the joni content only rule. I think you misunderstood, Warren. there is no joni only rule. There are however TWO lists. One is for ONLY JONI stuff and the other is a free for all (and much more interesting for me). The way the two lists work is that nything marked NJC(no joni content) will not go to the ONLY JONI list. Anything without the NJC tag in subject headin will go to the ONLY JONI list. So if you desire ONLY JONI, that would be the list you sign up to. However, as the people on these lists are human, the NJC tag is left off posts that should have it on. Not only that but Only Joni's who moan about this also do it themselves! And people who are not on the Only Joni often moan about the subjects discussed on the free for all list! The lists suit everybody, including those who like to find fault! Whilst I do think the replies to the fatcat were a bit harsh, i undertsand them cos it irks me too that some people can find the time to bitch but not to contibute to the list in a more uplifting or interesting way. It would help anyone on this list to realise that we are all human, imperfect and prone to making mistakes. If we cannot accept imperfection in our fellows then perhaps this is not the list for us.(but then it would seem no where would be for us as we live in an imperfect world) bw colin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 18:02:58 EST From: WARREN901@aol.com Subject: Re: joni only content hey way to blu ! thoroughly enjoyed your " joni only content" post, keep up the good work. ( even your e-mail address is joni only ! ) don't be so anonymous next time... joni,joni,joni, warren keith p.s. i particularly admire the research that went into the post. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 01:40:44 -0000 From: "William Waddell" Subject: Just like to chat you sometime Now that the chat room is up and running again, anyone up for a ... chat? Let me know when. Willy the Shake ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 03:07:32 -0000 From: "William Waddell" Subject: Letter to JMDL 2001 ... fade in and fade out again ... Just about sums it up, this thing called life. At the turn of the millenium I remember thinking that that very marked, though albeit overly emphasised, point in our stretch on Earth was so significant it wouldn't pass without humanity saying to itself ... got to row a little harder. ... nothing lasts for long ... I started 2001 with more Joni than I had ever done. Playing Joni on CD, on guitar, on stage solo, with a band, in my head, even in a big green taxi that sped me through dusty over-crowded Indonesian streets. Suddenly, by April, it was all gone, past and consigned to memory. Suddenly, I was in America. ... everything comes and goes ... Star-date April 4th 2001, Judy's Chelsea, NYC. I met JMDLers Rose, Alison, Debra, Lori (in France), Patrick and of course David Lahm. Down at that Chelsea cafe we were ... To let you understand, I'd been travelling so long I was the thumb and the satchel, not the rented Rolls Royce. I didn't know if I'd ever see these gals again. In May, I had the pleasure of hooking up with JMDLers Diane, Julius and Paz in New Orleans. By this stage I reckon I must have been using up good Karma mileage from former flight-times. By Capts. Hook and Crook, I finally made it up to Boston and the Joni Fest and I wanted it to go on and on. Early September and the living was easy. JMDLers Lori Fye and the down under Hell woman (eh no, not quite) and I drove south to Manhattan on the Monday before that Tuesday. I came to the city ... There are very few times I can recall having felt so alive, free and happy. ... just in dreams we fly, in my dreams ... How such butterflies could turn into bombers, well ... Just when you're thinking you finally got it made ... that glimmer of hope I'd had that somehow humanity could get itself back to the ... seemed further away than ever. What am I saying here? To anyone who hasn't been to a JoniFest; try your utmost to, coz life is too short and no sooner has it faded in ... WtS xxx ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 21:51:24 -0800 From: "fatcats2" Subject: only-joni content Anyone who doesn't care about my opinion of the only-joni digest should skip this. A problem with email, from someone you don't know, is that it is "spoken" by the listener. Mack seems to have taken it very personally, and apparently with his own anger, not mine. I realize Mack only speaks for himself. His comments on my post remind me of Joni's line about Jerry Falwell, etc. -- preaching love like hate. Colin might want to refresh his perspective too; his words are not mine. To respond to other comments, I made no reference to Christmas. My comments (nor this site) have nothing to do with a religious holiday. My point is this: 7 of the 10 posts today are NJC (not counting posts responding to my post). Digest #391 had 10 of 24 posts NJC; # 393 had 10 of 16 posts NJC. If I had saved others, I'm sure they would be similar. My thanks to Paul and others who understood my comments. I have a busy life, as others do, and preferrred not to scroll through so many discussions about nothing related to JM. I had looked forward to the Discussion List, as I too have loved Joni's work, since 1968. And I looked forward to sharing info/opinions about her and her magnificent art. I have two copies of her LP's, one set worn and scratchy; every cassette and every CD. I have every songbook published and play her songs (self-taught & poorly) on my guitar. I have notified Simon of two concerts not on his Appearances list that I attended, and for which I have photos and ticket stubs. I have photos of her leaving the hotel after a concert. I sat through a snowstorm at Red Rocks in Denver for hours waiting for her to (not) appear. I have the copy of Architectural Digest that featured a layout of her home. I buy every piece of music related to her. (Is Caroline Lavelle listed as covering her "A Case of You"? Produced years ago by William Orbit.) I have an autographed print of her oil painting hanging in my living room. I do my paintings to her music. I'm not special, I'm sure you all have similar stories. That was what was so exciting to me in finding this forum. I thought I had a friend in a JM fan. She has been a part of my life too. I appreciate the posts relating to Joni Mitchell that are on the digest, and I am thrilled to find photos and info from people who are apparently "in the know" about her professionally, and keep us posted on upcoming events. The entire website is fabulous and I am grateful to those who make it possible. I appreciated the warm welcome I received when I first logged in. I guess I thought this particular DL/digest was something else, rather than a chat room for so many non-related subjects and very personal email. That's fine, I can unsubscribe. It's pretty sensitive territory, you should have a warning label for all newcomers. This is way too long and personal. I thought I knew better than to get into an argument. I feel like William Shatner. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 02:08:23 EST From: TimandMaryPowers@aol.com Subject: Re: only-joni content In a message dated 12/27/01 10:52:44 PM, fatcats2@prodigy.net writes: >I have a busy life, >as others do, and preferrred not to scroll through so many discussions >about nothing related to JM. Hello, I'm going to send this to everyone and repeat the suggestion I made that we should switch the flag to JC for Joni content. A couple of people agreed with this, then I didn't hear anything more. I assume when you talk about NJC posts, you mean posts that should have been labeled NJC but were not. I think people on only-joni should only get email related to joni. if that's not happening, it needs to be fixed. on another listserv I am on, the list owner warns people when things get off topic. plus, she encourages people to send personal replies off list. I didn't mean to offend when I mentioned Christmas. I just thought the timing was awfully coincidental and I wasn't sure if that's what you were objecting to. I think this is an easy technical fix, and it won't affect anyone who wants NJC content, so I say it's worth a try. Mary K People hurry by so quickly Don't they hear the melodies In the chiming and the clicking And the laughing harmonies - - Joni Mitchell ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 02:26:29 EST From: TimandMaryPowers@aol.com Subject: Re: only-joni content In a message dated 12/27/01 10:59:49 PM, wallykai@fibertel.com.ar writes: >seriously, i swear. how can you raed all teh njc's if you are on jonionly? >do you read the digest AND the list? all the posts that you mentioned were >labeled njc. besides, you should have labeled your post njc and you didn't. >what's teh point? Hello, there's a possibility that something is wrong with the system and at least some of the njc posts are getting on joni-only. sometimes we put the njc in parentheses. maybe that messes it up. i don't know. that's a glitch that needs to be fixed if it is happening. I think people on joni-only should only get what they signed up for. I disagree that the post should have been labeled NJC. this was an email about an issue with the list that is of most interest to those who only want the JC. I personally really enjoy being on the larger list and seeing all of the personal non JC emails but that's my preference. if people don't want that, they have a right to ask that this list follow the rules it has laid out. Mary K People hurry by so quickly Don't they hear the melodies In the chiming and the clicking And the laughing harmonies - - Joni Mitchell ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #399 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?