From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #372 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Monday, December 3 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 372 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Desert Island Discs [pyramus@lineone.net] information on joni needed [sam ] Joni Producer [Shnootre@aol.com] Re: Desert Island Discs [colin ] Joni:Painting w/ words and music [YORK48CAD@aol.com] re: abundance [ZZScotty@aol.com] Re: abundance ["mack watson-bush" ] Re: abundance ["Kakki" ] Gregg Cagno's folk gig sjc [RoseMJoy@aol.com] Re: Rock Master Class [Randy Remote ] Re: Rock Master Class [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] I Wish I Knew Who Did that River... [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Rock Master Class [Randy Remote ] Re: I Wish I Knew Who Did that River...and Neil Y ["Kakki" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2001 12:35:40 +0000 From: pyramus@lineone.net Subject: Desert Island Discs The author Ken Follett has just appeared on Desert Island Discs on BBC Radio 2 in the U.K. They have just played Big Yellow Taxi as one of Ken's choices with the following conversation between the interviewer Michael Parkinson and the interviewee which I have transcribed for your amusement. Parkinson: It's a daft song that. I've always thought that it was a silly song. It's kind of very reminiscent of a time and era in music isn't it? Follett: Yes that's right, it was really a sort of ...ummm... it was really radical thinking to think it was wrong to build car parks....(both laugh) ...that was being very very left wing in those days. So there you go. Henceforth Joni's BYT should be referred to as her left wing anti car-park song :) Kevin ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 08:15:10 -0500 (EST) From: sam Subject: information on joni needed Hey everyone, I'm new to this list, and, to introduce myself, I'm Sam, and I'm 14, and I'm a fan of Joni's music. For an English project, I have to write a fictional story about Joni Mitchell, making her look heroic. I've decided to write something to do with when she would protest for the environment, and about the meaning of 'Big Yellow Taxi'. But heres the thing: I need more information. I'm finding it very hard to find sites with information on them. What I need is to know how these protests would happen, how many people there would be there (approx.), what time period they were, WHERE they were (thats a big one I need), and anything else that might be helpful for me to write a story with. So if anyone could help me, I would -really- appreciate it. ANY information is welcome, and not to sound pushy or anything negative, but I need this information as soon as possible. Preferably before the weekend is over, (it's Sunday... err.. sorry). Thank you, Sam _______________________________________________________ Build your own website in minutes and for free at http://ca.geocities.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 09:39:17 EST From: Shnootre@aol.com Subject: Joni Producer Greetings, I'll introduce myself, since this is my first post (been lurking for a few weeks). My name's Dan Sonenberg, I'm a composer and long-time Joni fan, and I'm actually currently working on my dissertation which is on, you guessed it, Joni Mitchell (particularly Court and Spark). Now, my question: As of Joni's second album she was her own producer. I'm wondering how common this was for recording artists in that time period in general, and singer-songwriters in particular. I know that James Taylor and Carole King didn't produce their own albums. What were the precedents for this, if any? I believe Stevie Wonder was his own producer, but I'm not sure if that only began with his new Motown deal in the early 70s (which gave him much artistic freedom). Thanks! dan s. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2001 15:46:59 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: Desert Island Discs > Parkinson: It's a daft song that. I've always thought that it was a silly song. It's kind of very reminiscent of a time and era in music isn't it? I think this shows Parky to be daft! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 10:52:16 EST From: YORK48CAD@aol.com Subject: Joni:Painting w/ words and music Hi to all, I was watching my video, Painting with Words and music, again yesterday, and once again marveled at the set. I wondered again, WHO are these lucky people who got to attend???? Was it any of you??? This video is so special to me, as the setlist is so similar to the concert I was lucky enough to attend. Makes me cry evertime. A cold and stormy day in northern California, Julie ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 14:18:40 EST From: ZZScotty@aol.com Subject: re: abundance I heard some guy covering River on a tv commercial today - during one of the NFL games. It was a public relations gig that circuit city is doing for the troops overseas. Just hearing it was a rush. Anyone know who sings it? Sean in Denver ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 13:24:45 -0600 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: Re: abundance Guess that means Joni sold the rights for that song. Don't like that but it is her right, though it still bothers me, that they use these great tunes for advertisements. mack > I heard some guy covering River on a tv commercial today - during one of the > NFL games. It was a public relations gig that circuit city is doing for the > troops overseas. Just hearing it was a rush. Anyone know who sings it? > > Sean in Denver ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 12:08:55 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: abundance I was surprised to finally catch this the other night on TV. It sounds like Robert Downey Jr. but I think someone here (maybe Bob) posted it was sung by someone else. Maybe Joni thought it was a good use - for a good cause - Circuit City is using it in conjunction with their campaign to have people send free holiday video greetings and messages to the troops stationed overseas. Sure it gets people in the stores, but I also thought it was a very sweet idea. Kakki > Guess that means Joni sold the rights for that >song. Don't like that but it is her right, though >it still bothers me, that they use these great >tunes for advertisements. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 15:47:18 EST From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Gregg Cagno's folk gig sjc Last night Nikki, Brian and I went to see Gregg Cagno perform at The Mine Street Coffeehouse in New Brunswick, NJ. Mine Street is one of New Jersey's oldest running acoustic music venues that is housed in the basement of the First Reformed Church. Funny how I never knew about it before. I'm just now rediscovering New Brunswick and all of the performing arts it has to offer. Joan Baez is performing at the State Theater there this month. The gig was purely acoustical, no mics. Some of you have had the pleasure of meeting Gregg this year at JoniFest2001. I know Paul met Gregg on the Folktrain to Saskatoon. Thanks for pointing him our way Paul ;~) Such an incredible talent.This was my first real folk gig that I've ever attended. What a sweet room. The walls were made of beautiful colored stone and brick. A very old historical church. I was delighted with it's intimate charm. I got to daydreaming about how Joni and other folkies had begun playing in coffeehouse venues like this one. I am simply enthralled by the stories we've gotten from Pat Henry Bolland (and a few others that please forgive me I can't remember your names) of those good old coffeehouse daze. Thanks for introducing me to the world of Newbieland Gregg! Gregg opened his set with George Harrison's "Here Comes The Sun" He also did a wonderful rendition of "River" that was dedicated to Brie by Mags, as well as "All I Want" soon to be followed by my own personal request "Close Your Eyes" and "Sweet Baby James" by JT. Gregg also played a few country tunes and was accompanied by vocals by the lovely Maggie Anderson. It was a real pleasure meeting you Maggie! The gig was soon over and we left the church only to discover that Gregg had a flat tire (aaarrrggghhh) We hung out and watched Gregg change his tire, singing while he did it. Perhaps we can persuade Gregg to join the wanderer guitar list Sue, as he invents a lot of alternate tunings. Afterwards, Brian headed out home and Nikki came over and sang played songs for me till the wee hours of the morning. I'm a newbie guitarist and Nikki was helping me with Mr. Tambourine Man. Thanks Nikki! :~) I almost have it LOL. I lack so much dexterity in the left hand as the result of a neuro-cervical condition. As much as I love it, guitar playing presents even more of a challenge for me. That's all she wrote folks. It was so much fun guys, we'll have to do it again real soon. rose in NJ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2001 14:00:24 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: Rock Master Class rsc1 wrote: > Mr. Bernstein told me once that he was begining to work on it > (personally, I'm hoping for tapes of her appearance at the 1980 > Bread & Roses show in Berkeley. That version of "The Thrill > Is Gone" with B.B. King! Does anyone have an audience tape of this? > It levelled me...) Hmmm....I didn't think that performance was good....visually it was cool to see them together, but Mr. King played a loud guitar lick every time Joni opened her mouth to sing...almost seemed like sabotage...King and band totally screwed up Coyote, too, they didn't know the tune and blew all the chord changes.... But to answer your question, a tape of this show has not, to my knowledge, surfaced. One lister a year or two ago got in touch with the B&R organization, and they said they would try to find a tape, but nothing ever came of it. Better than the King collaboration would be Joni's solo set with previews of songs from WTRF, and a dynamite version of "Sweet Sucker Dance" with Herbie Hancock on grand piano. Hopefully this material will surface at some point. Ann & Nancy Wilson's set (with Joan Baez on "Love Alive") from the '81 show has been traded for some time. It's hard to believe Joni's performance wasn't recorded, but she can be very protective of her stuff, maybe she pocketed the only tape! RR ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 17:32:24 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Rock Master Class << and a dynamite version of "Sweet Sucker Dance" with Herbie Hancock on grand piano. Hopefully this material will surface at some point. >> I can't speak to the other material you mention, Randy, but this one's on the "Bread & Roses" collection in circulation...blew me away the first time I heard it. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 17:34:24 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: I Wish I Knew Who Did that River... << It sounds like Robert Downey Jr. but I think someone here (maybe Bob) posted it was sung by someone else. >> I haven't seen it, but I thought it was decided that it WAS in fact Downey's version. Bob, with covers news tomorrow... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2001 14:56:44 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: Rock Master Class Really? I had no idea...it certainly blew me away 20 years ago. Are you saying this is from a legitamate release, or ? How can I get it? RR SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: > << and a dynamite version of "Sweet Sucker > Dance" with Herbie Hancock on grand piano. Hopefully this > material will surface at some point. >> > > I can't speak to the other material you mention, Randy, but this one's on the > "Bread & Roses" collection in circulation...blew me away the first time I > heard it. > > Bob ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 18:04:55 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: I Wish I Knew Who Did that River...and Neil Y > I haven't seen it, but I thought it was decided >that it WAS in fact Downey's version. O.K., I was too lazy this morning to look it up but waded back through the digests and indeed, Mr. Zack confirmed it was Downey, Jr. ;-) Also, thank you as ever Bob for the latest covers installments - they are fantabulous! Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 19:31:39 -0800 (PST) From: Mags N Brei Subject: Re: I Wish I Knew Who Did that River...and Neil Y I know this has been said before, however, I am moved to write that Robert Downey Jr's version of River is exquisite and so filled with the depths of emotion. His version made this baby cry! I just love it so much. I heard it at the bookstore a few times last Christmas season..and do need to get it for our Joni library ;-) Mags - --- Kakki wrote: > > I haven't seen it, but I thought it was decided >that it WAS in > fact > Downey's version. > > O.K., I was too lazy this morning to look it up but waded back > through the > digests and indeed, Mr. Zack confirmed it was Downey, Jr. ;-) > > Also, thank you as ever Bob for the latest covers installments - they > are > fantabulous! > > Kakki ===== I've got you to see me through, looking out for what I do Spreading sunshine from the skies, placing rainbows in my eyes Got you watching out for me, making sense of what I see When my world is wearing blue, I've got you to see me through . - ---by Eleanor McEvoy on her album Yola (2001) . Buy the perfect holiday gifts at Yahoo! Shopping. http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 19:58:02 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: I Wish I Knew Who Did that River...and Neil Y Mags wrote: > I know this has been said before, however, > I am moved to write that Robert Downey Jr's > version of River is exquisite and so filled > with the depths of emotion. His version made > this baby cry! Yes, there is something in his version that really wrenches the heart. Don't know if you've seen the Circuit City commercial yet - it just has a few snippets of the song - but it really got to me me, pairing it with the footage of the soldiers at this time. In my last post I meant to (and forgot) to post a link to an mp3 of a song Neil Young just recorded with Booker T and the MGs for the heroes and victims of Flight 93. A number of radio stations have been playing it http://www.jimbeller.com/mp3/lets_roll.mp3 Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 23:41:56 EST From: BigWaltinSF@aol.com Subject: Hebert's Book and other books Hi, All, I'm kicking around the idea of picking up the piano again, and was looking at the list of books at Amazon.com (not that I can actually *buy* from them -- no credit card) to get an idea of what might be out there. Sorry I'm behind the times, as usual -- but what can anyone tell me about "Voices: The Work of Joni Mitchell" -- is this actually a serious analysis of her "work" (and would that include both visual arts and music), or a hack biography, or what? Any recommendations as to what book I *should* get? (I'm looking for sheet music -- collections anthologies, whatever.) Thanks, Walt ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2001 22:26:34 -0800 From: Rick and Susan Subject: AIR Joni redux My last post (which received no comment at all on the list) passed on a report from a friend of mine who records for George Martin saying that Joni was about to enter the studio to start her next album. Today he told me he got it backwards: Joni has just finished recording the vocals for the album, "singing for hours, live with the orchestra." Ranger Rick ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #372 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?