From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #371 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Sunday, December 2 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 371 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Tears of a Thousand Years revisited * a project of the Canadian Musicians September 11th Relief Foundation [] Here Comes The Sun [Mitch327@aol.com] Re: George Harison (VLJC) ["Mike Pritchard" ] In need of Joni information [sam ] In need of Joni information [sam ] Re: Here Comes The Sun [RoseMJoy@aol.com] Re: In need of Joni information [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: urge for going, some JC, [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] RE: Big Blue Moon, GH [Chuck Eisenhardt ] Here come those tears ["Sybil Skelton" ] Re: Big Blue Moon ["Mark or Travis" ] Re: Big Blue Moon [RoseMJoy@aol.com] Re: Big Blue Moon ["Mark or Travis" ] Re: What I'd like for Christmas + Question about Geffens ["Jim L'Hommedie] George Harrison,,,, Victor Johnson [" Russell Bowden" ] again ["mack watson-bush" ] Lori R. Frye's mom ["Timothy Spong" ] "Heros" and "NYC" music videos available! ["Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lama\)" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2001 05:47:29 -0500 From: Mags Subject: Tears of a Thousand Years revisited * a project of the Canadian Musicians September 11th Relief Foundation http://www.tearsofathousandyears.com/home.html Please check out this web site for the Tears concert/CD project. I had the great honour of attending this concert and it continues to amaze me how something so complex was pulled together in such a short span of time, one month. The concert began with us all standing up to sing The Star Spangled Banner which was overwhelming in itself...I have never seen this happen before...the American National anthem sung at a Canadian folk venue..it was so special and I thought my heart would burst wide open with pride and sorrow all at once. The concert ended with a hair-standing-on-end version of Blowing in the Wind which poured into the Mary Ellen Carter, another wonderful Stan song. It was my absolute privilege to meet and speak with Ariel Rogers who was married to our very own Stan Rogers, Canadian icon/folk singer/man of passion ...Stan was a gentle giant, story teller extraordinaire speaking from the heart and soul of every day life...Stan was a big fan of Joni Mitchell . Meeting Ariel was an incredible moment for me, as special and precious as so many of the Joni moments which others on the list have shared. And only a few days later, at the Garnet Rogers concert Friday night, Brian and I met her again. Ariel is down to earth; and she graciously shared her warmth and stories and laughter with us. Ariel is an incredible, special person who was one of the many driving forces behind this project. On the CD is an unreleased Stan tune entitled Jamie (written by Mark Rust, recorded live by Howard Evans at the Bermuda Folk Club 1978) which Ariel, her son David and her husband Scott Cameron Smith performed. Brought us all to tears. Spooky how the lyrics speak to the situation of today. When I spoke with Scott Cameron Smith, a performer and one of the producers, he asked me to pass along to my honey that this project was for him and for all of the Americans, for everyone affected by the waves of September 11th. It was such a touching, overwhelming evening. I have never in my life seen Canadians come together in this way to support our neighbours south of the border. I get all weepy just remembering this night of magic and hope. My words can never do this night justice and I am sure that we have all cried Tears of a Thousand Years over this terrible tragedy. thanks for the bandwidth. This was too incredible to keep to myself. and thank you again to my Brei. for everything. always and always, Mags. np: If It's a Long Way Home by Scott Cameron Smith from the Tears of a Thousand Years CD. - -- And this loving is a drawing close, a tuning in, an opening. Until one perfect moment; but how can it be expressed? A receiving, an enfolding as I cradle you in my arms. Within my heart, within my soul, You are my true love. --Lui Collins - --- _~O / /\_, ___/\ /_ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 08:52:41 EST From: Mitch327@aol.com Subject: Here Comes The Sun Hi All, De-lurkers unite! I haven't been too active in the JMDL since September 11th, although I do read some of them from time to time. The last memory I had of it before the tragedy was reading all of the posts about the Joni-fest held up in New England. I live in New York, and worked in the World Trade Center complex for about 12 years (I have worked in Connecticut for the last 3 years). I was working on the top floor of 7 World Trade Center (now gone) back in 1993 when the first bombing took place, and still have memories of that. George Harrison's death (at age 58) also brings back memories for me, having lost my mother to cancer (at age 56). But it was looking out my window this morning, seeing this beautiful sunny morning, and recalling Harrison's song, that finally prompted me to check in with everyone. Still finding comfort in music. I'm looking at the last couple of CD's that I have bought; Roomful Of Blues, Dr. John, Steve Earle, Grace Griffith and Iris Dement.... Are their any Joni/George Harrison/Beatles connections? Everyone have a great weekend! Mitch ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 14:44:28 +0100 From: "Mike Pritchard" Subject: Re: George Harison (VLJC) I never was a great Beatle fan but I defy anyone growing up in the 60s in a little town 80 miles from Liverpool to be unaffected by their influence. Always going a little against the grain, my favourite group was The Beach Boys, almost a sacrilegious thing to say in those days. But via the BBs I got into Jefferson Airplane, Santana, The Byrds and the whole LA music scene, and thus Joni. My mother was always the one in our house who most liked the Beatles, thus it was her who went to see them when they came to my hometown of Bangor, north Wales. Bangor is small but has a university and a teacher training college where they were holding a conference on 'Transcendental Meditation' to be attended by The Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and, I think, all the Beatles except Ringo. The rumour spread around the streets but who would believe it? My mother did, and dressed up and walked to the venue and, sure enough, the next day all the press and tv were full of it. Not as full of it as my mother who kept a Dahlia given to her by the Maharishi which lived a long time in a vase on the kitchen window. All we could get out of her for a week was the sentence (almost a mantra) "A Dahlia is a Dahlia", which has since that day been an inside joke in our house. My mother loved the Beatles so much that I'm sure she'll be as upset as anyone by this sad news. Mike NP 'Blackbird' by Jaco Pastorius. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 09:23:27 -0500 (EST) From: sam Subject: In need of Joni information Hey everyone, I'm new to this list, and, to introduce myself, I'm Sam, and I'm 14, and I'm a fan of Joni's music. For an English project, I have to write a fictional story about Joni Mitchell, making her look heroic. I've decided to write something to do with when she would protest for the environment, and about the meaning of 'Big Yellow Taxi'. But heres the thing: I need more information. I'm finding it very hard to find sites with information on them. What I need is to know how these protests would happen, how many people there would be there (approx.), what time period they were, WHERE they were (thats a big one I need), and anything else that might be helpful for me to write a story with. So if anyone could help me, I would -really- appreciate it. ANY information is welcome, and not to sound pushy or anything negative, but I need this information as soon as possible. Preferably before the weekend is over, (it's Saturday). Thank you, Sam _______________________________________________________ Build your own website in minutes and for free at http://ca.geocities.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 09:23:31 -0500 (EST) From: sam Subject: In need of Joni information Hey everyone, I'm new to this list, and, to introduce myself, I'm Sam, and I'm 14, and I'm a fan of Joni's music. For an English project, I have to write a fictional story about Joni Mitchell, making her look heroic. I've decided to write something to do with when she would protest for the environment, and about the meaning of 'Big Yellow Taxi'. But heres the thing: I need more information. I'm finding it very hard to find sites with information on them. What I need is to know how these protests would happen, how many people there would be there (approx.), what time period they were, WHERE they were (thats a big one I need), and anything else that might be helpful for me to write a story with. So if anyone could help me, I would -really- appreciate it. ANY information is welcome, and not to sound pushy or anything negative, but I need this information as soon as possible. Preferably before the weekend is over, (it's Saturday). Thank you, Sam _______________________________________________________ Build your own website in minutes and for free at http://ca.geocities.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 09:23:54 EST From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: Here Comes The Sun In a message dated 12/1/01 8:55:28 AM Eastern Standard Time, Mitch327@aol.com writes: > Are their any Joni/George Harrison/Beatles connections? > > Mitch, Sue posted this yesterday......... I always loved this story about Joni and George Harrison. She was in the studio recording "Hissing of Summer Lawns" (from an article at the JMDL website: (http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/7603mg.cfm) Then she comes in to listen to the track, concentrated, sipping a little red wine from a styrofoam cup, taking a puff from a cigarette, putting her head together with Henry's to discuss a technical detail. There is a knock on the door and in walks George Harrison, who is recording in the studio next door(it's the A & M studio complex on La Brea Avenue in Hollywood). "I just wanted to say hello" he says and then a strange thing happens. Joni is suddenly shy and this shyness seems to be catching. George seems at a loss for anything else to say. They smile at each other, he listens to the track, then sort of invites her to come to the studio and check out the last cut before he exits. What happened ? Were they in awe of each other ? Nobody else in the room said anything. And because the atmosphere was so strange, I didn't even dare ask to take a photo of the two .Which I regret now, looking back. It might have broken the spell. peace ~rose ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 10:08:58 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: In need of Joni information << What I need is to know how these protests would happen, how many people there would be there (approx.), what time period they were, WHERE they were (thats a big one I need), and anything else that might be helpful for me to write a story with. >> Hi Sam, welcome to the JMDL, hopefully you'll stick around after you squeeze this info out of us! ;~) You say you're working on a piece of fiction, so you should be able to take liberties with your facts. Given that variable, the time period you're probably looking at is more like '68-'72, although Joni has championed causes both environmental & otherwise for decades. Oftentimes these protests would be held in the main streets, taking the form of 'parades' so the group protesting could bring attention to themselves. Sometimes they would take place at the location being targeted; for instance, if a wooded area was going to be clear cut, the protesters might join hands and surround a group of trees to prevent equipment from getting through. Hence the term "tree huggers". As for numbers and locations, they were all over the place but the west coast was probably more common. I would think some of our west coast members could help fill in some gaps. Anyway, hope that helps...good luck with the assignment! Please let us know how you do with it. Bob NP(Now Playing): Sonic Youth, "Skip Tracer" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 10:16:03 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: urge for going, some JC, << would love to see joni and bruce, david and bruce, david and joni, or, gasp, all three? collaborate... oh well... >> Bruce has worked with Ani & Jonatha, so he definitely has good tastes! I'd like to hear Joni & Bruce team up as well. Maybe she could guest on HIS record, as opposed to the other way around. Most of my favorite Joni moments on CD of late have come on other's projects; Kyle Eastwood, Herbie Hancock, and especially her vocal on the Brian Blade disc. Sounds like she opens up more when she's giving a vocal to somebody else's project, like there's less pressure on her or something. Thanks for the delurk, Alan, great post. You've got a lot to say, so keep yappin'! :~) Bob NP: Sonic Youth, "The Diamond Sea" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2001 10:01:27 -0500 From: Chuck Eisenhardt Subject: RE: Big Blue Moon, GH Les, While I think it was definitely cheating, I'm actually glad you used a search engine! Otherwise it would indicate WAY too much time on your hands!! By the way, while we're on the subject of comprehensive Joni 'lists', does anyone have a copy of the old Bill Dollinger 'Joni's Bestiary' for republication? (For Paz's benefit, this has absolutely nothing to do with having sex with animals, but merely lists every Joni lyrical mention of the animal kingdom...) I guess it would need an update for "Taming the Tiger". I found an excellent George Harrison lyric/discography site here: http://web.mit.edu/scholvin/www/harrison/harrison.html ChuckE ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2001 10:01:50 -0600 From: "Sybil Skelton" Subject: Here come those tears The very first thing I saw on my TV yesterday morning when I arose at about 5 am was George Harrison's face - since the channel was VH1 I knew instantly what it meant. I just stood in shock waiting for the coffee to brew. Although it was not unexpected, I was surprised at how visceral a blow it turned out to be. After a melancholy kind of day, I got in my car to go home and flipped on the classic rock radio station presuming that they would be the ones to be doing something special, and they were. All weekend they are playing "The Beatles A-Z". As I drove along listening to "I Saw Her Standing There" and then "I Wanna Hold Your Hand", the tears came. I just let the tears flow - I'm not sure who they were for, but I let them come. And strangely I felt better, and I didn't even care if the other drivers on the road thought I was stark raving mad. If any of them were listening to the same station, they understood. Sybil NP: Jackson Browne "For a Dancer" - I'm glad George danced through my life _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 10:28:05 -0800 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: Big Blue Moon > You're My Thrill > I can't for the life of me come up with a mention of the moon in this song. Can somebody help me out? Mark E. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 13:35:18 EST From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: Big Blue Moon In a message dated 12/1/01 1:29:59 PM Eastern Standard Time, mark.travis@gte.net writes: > > You're My Thrill > > > I can't for the life of me come up with a mention of the moon in this > song. Can somebody help me out? > > I've been 'neath the moon before Held by the charms but this song as we know isn't written by Joni, Les just cheated and used the search engine on the JMDL. lol peace, rose ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 10:50:37 -0800 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: Big Blue Moon > I've been 'neath the moon before > Held by the charms > I've never heard this lyric before. I don't think Joni sings it. I'm almost positive Billie Holiday didn't sing it in her version of 'You're My Thrill'. Of course it wouldn't be the first time that one version of a song includes lyrics that another cover leaves out. Mark E. PS: Yes, using the search engine is cheating, Les! ;-) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 14:16:08 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lama\)" Subject: Re: What I'd like for Christmas + Question about Geffens My opinion, "O", is no. I would sooner see you get better speakers (on the used market) than invest in HDCD versions. Joni's words, vocal style, and piano playing are my favorite bits. As an audiophile, to me, some of the recordings have (uhhmmmm) so much overdubbing that it doesn't work as an audiophile experience. As you noted Court and Spark is an example. [I **love** Court and Spark. This is not heresy.] Alternately, an exquisite pair of headphones is way less than the cost of a car, something I can't say for exquisite speakers and a huge room to put them in! For auditioning headphones and speakers, consider taking along a copy of "Both Sides Now" and playing it loudly. It's a wonderful recording for judging stuff like detail, richness, and transients. By the way, you may want to consider purchasing used LPs as an alternative to HDCD. The vinyl is cheap! If you decide you want better sound, upgrading your cartridge, tone arm, and turntable are really worthwhile. Best of all, it instantly upgrades you entire record collection. "O" asked for opinions, >>>>And finally, is it worth me replacing my Joni discs with HDCD versions from CDNow.com or whatever? I'm pretty into having the best sound quality, but I'm also a poor student, so I don't want to waste my money! Just my opinion, Lama ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2001 13:54:50 -0800 From: " Russell Bowden" Subject: George Harrison,,,, Victor Johnson Gang, How beautifully the sun came yesterday. It seemed that it burned brighter and warmer. I was surprised that tears came so quickly when I heard the sad news. There has just always been a George. I hope and believe that his journery was swift and light. Sorry to do this on list but: Victor I received your email on my hotmail address: rustytrazom@hotmail.com. I've replied several times, but my message gets bounced back to me. What's up? I've checked the address and I just hit reply, but your address cannot be found. Help! Thanks all for your patience, Russ in San Francisco - -- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 15:17:03 -0800 (PST) From: Mags N Brei Subject: Re: George Harrison; Jim's birthday; Brian's birthday and "Brei" and "boi" (VLJC) the spelling of Brei...well.not sure how we came to that spelling in the first place, that's just how it is.. and as far as 'boi' is concerned, that is a term of endearment...as in honey boi...just looks and sounds cute. . signed, Brei's wife ;-)) np: the sound of Brei's wife giggling. - --- Timothy Spong wrote: > I. I trust all on this list, and Joni herself, join me in mourning > the > passing of George Harrison at age 58, yesterday, 29 Nov. 2001. > > II. A belated happy birthday to Jim, and thanks to him for > maintaining the > site. > > III. An even more belated birthday to Brian. In her own public > greetings to > him, his wife uses the spellings "Brei" and "boi." Now, I suppose > "Brei" is > a phonetic rending of the first syllable of "Brian" -- if it were > spelled > "Bri" or "Brie," others might read it and pronounce it mentally (or > aloud) > as "bree." But what is the significance of spelling "boy" as "boi"? > This > inquiring mind wants to know. > > Tim Spong > Dover, Del., U.S.A. > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ===== I've got you to see me through, looking out for what I do Spreading sunshine from the skies, placing rainbows in my eyes Got you watching out for me, making sense of what I see When my world is wearing blue, I've got you to see me through . - ---by Eleanor McEvoy on her album Yola (2001) . Buy the perfect holiday gifts at Yahoo! Shopping. http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 18:17:02 -0600 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: pure genius One, I, can listen to Joni and hear a lyrical phrase and know that it touches me deeply but on the next listen it can take me away, completely. Pure genius. "deep kisses and the sun going down" mack ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 18:20:14 -0600 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: again I want to climb into the song, down deep into the lyric. I want to go where she takes me and never come back. Can anything be as good as grand as that, that place she awakens and touches? mack ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2001 01:16:23 From: "Timothy Spong" Subject: Lori R. Frye's mom On 30 Nov 2001, "L. R. Fye" wrote: [My mom....] > >... passed away about an hour and a half ago. Thanks to all of you for >your support and prayers. > >I'll be going to Ohio soon, and will be in touch when I can. > >Love to all of you, >Lori Gosh, Lori, I'm so sorry. I'm not sure I've seen the antecedents to this, as an only-Joni digest subscriber. Be of good courage. [NJC tag intentionally omitted.] Tim Spong Dover, Del., U.S.A. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 20:23:20 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lama\)" Subject: "Heros" and "NYC" music videos available! The most generous man in the known universe, Simon, made a set of videos for me of the recent music events. I'll dub them onto USA style VHS (in stereo) for blanks and postage. "America: A Tribute to Heros" is on one two hour VHS, has no commercial interruptions, and boasts the slightly better sound. It was broadcast only once on September 21, 2001. I had not seen the contributions by Stevie Wonder or Bruce Springsteen before. (Thanks, Simon!) Seeing a Canadian (Neil Young) singing a song of peace ("Imagine") written by a slain Englishman for a wounded America is a poignant testament that none of us is ever alone. "The Concert For New York City", is much longer, sprawling across 3 VHS tapes, and incorporates persistent reminders that VH1 is a good corporate citizen. The audio on this tape has the most agressive compressor I've ever heard. I haven't seen it all yet but I look forward to it; there are many very talented people on it. Please contact me off-list, form a single-file line, and remember, "No pushing!" Love, Lama ps, "line" is American for "queue". Thank you. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2001 20:08:37 -0600 From: mann@chicagonet.net Subject: SAD News: George Harrison Kakki, Your comment reminded me............ when I was 5 or 6 years old my girlfriends and I would play house (or something) and each would have to pick a Beatle for a husband. I ALWAYS thought George was so very handsome and picked him (which was no problem.... all my friends fought over Paul). Have you seen Oded Fehr from 'The Mummy' and NBC's UC: Uncercover tv program. He looks very much like a young George Harrison.... especially so when he's sporting a beard. http://members.tripod.de/ofas/ BTW........thanks for the info. on Krall & Klein. I remember you knowing something about it when I posted on JMDL for confirmation a few years back. Laura *********************************************** Try to win your free cake for this month.... http://www.pennstreet.com/ I'm still trying. I hear they're yummy. *********************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 00:03:08 EST From: Lazyasz@aol.com Subject: Re: abundance - Joni in public places Ya, last year I heard Help Me at Denny's at 1 in the morning and this past week I heard River in the bookstore at UCI. Peace & Deeper Understanding Damien ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 22:25:13 -0800 From: rsc1 Subject: RE: Rock Master Class Wow, that sounds intriguing.... I've always wanted to hear the "Dog" material stripped down, especially after the Amnesty International version of "The Three Great Stimulants" (despite the water balloon incident!). How do I get a copy? And what about that box set? Mr. Bernstein told me once that he was begining to work on it (personally, I'm hoping for tapes of her appearance at the 1980 Bread & Roses show in Berkeley. That version of "The Thrill Is Gone" with B.B. King! Does anyone have an audience tape of this? It levelled me...). This was at Neil Young's studio, back in '92, as he was in the process of working on Neil's box. It's still not out, so we may have to wait awhile.... Russ ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #371 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?