From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #359 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Tuesday, November 20 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 359 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Today in Joni History: November 19 [les@jmdl.com] Re: Joni's painting & technical terms ["Kakki" ] =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_El_mundo_es_un_pa=F1uelo_and_Joni_content? = [fernan] Re: A Case [SAVtheWAVE@aol.com] my favourite position... [colin ] Small World [Phyliss Ward ] RE: A Case (VLJC) [Susan Guzzi ] For cover completists [ssimpson ] Re: For cover completists [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: For cover completists [Murphycopy@aol.com] Re: Small World [Murphycopy@aol.com] Re: Small World [Murphycopy@aol.com] Re: Small World [Murphycopy@aol.com] Re: brilliant, but not easy to listen to [colin ] Re: Joni's painting & technical terms [BigWaltinSF@aol.com] How do I unsubscribe? [Richard Stevens ] Albums sounding alike [BigWaltinSF@aol.com] Man of Heart & Mind :-) [BigWaltinSF@aol.com] judgement of the moon and stars ["mack watson-bush" ] Re: judgement of the moon and stars ["mack watson-bush" ] Fwd: Man of Heart & Mind :-) [BigWaltinSF@aol.com] Re: Man of Heart & Mind :-) [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Man of Heart & Mind :-) ["Kakki" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 03:23:49 -0500 From: les@jmdl.com Subject: Today in Joni History: November 19 On November 19 in Joni Mitchell History: 1966: Joni performs at the Second Fret in Philadelphia alone and with Chuck Mitchell. 1975: Joni, as part of the Rolling Thunder Revue with Dylan and others, performs today at the Memorial Auditorium in Worchester, Massachusetts. - ------------------------ Search the "Today" database: http://www.jmdl.com/today ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 00:29:13 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Joni's painting & technical terms Walt wrote: > I'm interested in art history, but am woefully ignorant of art techniques I've painted all my life and majored in painting in a university art school and am also somewhat ignorant of art techniques! I'm always impressed by Debra's and John's knowledge. "Back in my day" I guess the method was more to just to throw you off the deep end of the pool, assign you several hundred drawings or several paintings to complete by semester's end and see if you survived. I'm not saying that's a good thing but that is how I was taught or probably *not* taught ;-) The only classes where I learned anything new (or learned to "see" in a broader sense) was in design. > I may have the wrong term, but I had kind of concluded that Joni's style, > while reeling from complete abstractiop, through impressionism, to > more-or-less realism, was centered on the fauvist idea of the use of color -- > just as John said (in different words, of course). I'd put Joni in the fauvist category before I learned of her great affection for Matisse (the godfather of fauvism). She has often spoken in interviews of Van Gogh and Matisse as her favorites. A couple of her paintings from the Wild Things Run Fast album are homages to Matisse. By the way Walt, when are you going to tell us about your gathering in San Francisco?? And where's the rest of youse who were there? ;-) Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 11:36:09 +0100 From: fernando.fernandez@educ.mec.es Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_El_mundo_es_un_pa=F1uelo_and_Joni_content? = Hello, Michael, thank you for the answer. I4d swear to have read it in some of your messages. Perhaps as an answer to a message sent by you. I4ve been searching in the last messages and nothing have found. Wally Kairuz, in a message dated the 16th, says that the list cannot read one letter of the Spanish alphabet, and that4s what I imagined and that4s the point of the mess. No matter, and excuse me if you didn4t say nothing about it. Entering into Joni4s content, I would like to know if somebody of the list has more information on the collaboration of John McLaughlin in Joni4s Mingus (1979). He finally didn4t participate in the recording sessions, but he was in the previous sessions. What about that? Come in From The Cold Beatles Forever P.D.: I see that was Mike who wrote it, and I agree with his comments on the scarcity of characters in internet, although I think that, with some effort, something more can be reached. > ---------- > De: Michael Paz[SMTP:jmichaelpaz@telocity.com] > Responder a: Michael Paz > Enviado el: sabado 17 de noviembre de 2001 20:25 > Para: fernando.fernandez@educ.mec.es; joni@smoe.org > Asunto: Re: El mundo es un paquelo > > HUH??? Where I come from "El Mundo es un panuelo" is the world is a > hankerchief. Where did this whole thing get started? I don't recall > posting > anything about the world being a hankerchief in any language. Welcome to > the > list Fernando. > > Interesting, > > Michael (in English saying, "please have this, little bit of instant > bliss") > > on 11/16/01 1:02 AM, fernando.fernandez@educ.mec.es at > fernando.fernandez@educ.mec.es wrote: > > > Hello, I write from Spain, I4m Spanish, and I must say to Michael > > Paz that "el mundo es un paquelo" has no sense in Spanish. The correct > one > > is "el mundo es un paquelo" (the world is a handkerchief). > > > > Come in From The Cold > > Beatles Forever ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 06:22:10 EST From: SAVtheWAVE@aol.com Subject: Re: A Case Absolutely beautiful experience John, and thank you so much for sharing it with us all. "A Case Of You" is one of, if not my favorite Joni song and it was awesome for me to see Diana Krall do her version of it during the Tribute last year, if only on the televised broadcast. Your description of the hall and its acoustics almost brought me to Amsterdam. When a song come from ones toes, as you describe, in an arena like that which you described, how could it not be one of life's best moments. I am happy to hear that for you. Thanks again. Joe (in Rhode Island ) - coming out of lurk mode for the moment. Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 09:53:26 +0100 From: "John van Tiel" Subject: A Case Just wanted to share this with you ... Last Wednesday, Amsterdam, the Concertgebouw. Diana Krall in Concert ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 11:27:34 +0000 From: colin Subject: my favourite position... ....is sitting in the garden on this cold bright morning, having a fag and coffee, watching the dogs playing and listening to Joni-this morning's choice being LOTC. - -- bw colin DAK,BRO GC, 950i, 940,860,864,890, 260,Silver 830,860, 580 and 270, Passap 6000, Duo80. colin@tantra-apso.com http://www.tantra-apso.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 07:19:22 -0800 From: Phyliss Ward Subject: Small World Bob and I showed our work this weekend at the Pasadena Fall Art Show. In addition to the visual artists, they had two stages with live music going all day both Saturday and Sunday. I was amazed at the quality of all the groups that played. On Sunday I heard some familiar sounds coming from the stage nearest us. Peaking around the corner of my booth I saw a familiar figure across the lawn. Sure enough, it was our own Kate Bennet!!! Seeing as we each live about 100 miles away from Pasadena, in different places, this was quite a trip. I guess it really is a small world after all! Kakki and Rick were possibly going to stop by that day so I tried to reach them via cellphone, to no avail. It turns ut they were unable to make it. Could have been a mini-impromptu JoniFest! Anyway, Kate, Jeff, Bob, and I had a nice little visit and Kate was able to see our work. I had really wanted to go to Kate's Joni Tribute but had other obligations so this was a nice little treat. I guess you never know where you are going to run into a JMDL'r... - -- Phyliss mailto:phyliss@goldenfigclay.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 07:22:13 -0800 (PST) From: Susan Guzzi Subject: RE: A Case (VLJC) John Van Tiel wrote: But whatever she was going through, she turned "A Case Of You" into an unbelievable experience. It was one of the highlights of my entire life as a concert goer. Got goosebumps just reading this John. You can't have any expectations for a song or a performance like that, they just come out of nowhere and knock you off your feet. Lucky you Uncle John, glad you had such a wonderful experience! Jack wrote: Now when is she coming to Chicago? Well if and when she comes to Chicago, I can't imagine it would ever be like this again - cause I'd be expecting it. But I sure would like to see her try, see you there Jack. Peace Susan Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 09:31:49 -0600 From: ssimpson Subject: For cover completists Christine Albert and Chris Gage of Austin (who are married) now have a Christmas CD that covers "River." Interestingly, it's Chris who sings the lead. Have other men covered the song? I find that rather fresh and daring. Joni or her "people" must be nice about permissions, since Christine and Chris were able to include the song. They noted at the last live performance I attended that writers are highly variable in response, from very laid back to savagely legalistic and rude. The album is very country inflected. It ranges from an original, "One More Christmas," about the last Christmas in the old homeplace as the parents decide to move away, to the "Linus and Lucy" theme, to "Go Tell It on the Mountain." And Christine, who has some French ancestry and speaks French, does a very lovely "Un Flambeau Jeanette Isabelle." Their website is www.albertandgage.com. Happy Thanksgiving to everybody! Suzanne ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 10:58:06 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: For cover completists Well, I guess your subject line is referring to me, Suzanne! :~) <> Thanks for the tip...I've added this one to the JMDL covers database. As for men performing the song, plenty have done so. Some of the more notable include: Robert Downey Jr. on the Ally MacBeal Christmas CD. This has proven to be a very popular version. He does a fantastic job with it. Marti Pellow, lead vocalist for Wet Wet Wet, did it on air during a BBC radio show. Gorgeous! Billy Squier (he of 'stroke me, stroke me fame) does a bizarre version where he begins with the proper lyric and then really takes the words into left field, seemingly making them up as he went along. What was he thinking? Kenny Lattimore does a Stevie Wonderish reading on Peter White's CD. A little over-sanitized maybe, but very soulful. Dave van Ronk gravel-voices his way through it; James Taylor turns in a very emotional performance of the song with Joni watching on during the TNT tribute. He sings "I wish I had a river so wide" instead of long, but that was no major foul in my book. The song, one of the saddest and prettiest of Joni's, works for either gender as is the case for almost her catalogue. "Woman of Heart & Mind" notwithstanding! ;~) Bob NP: Kate Bennett, "Full Moon Ride" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 11:31:23 EST From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: For cover completists In a message dated 11/19/01 11:03:25 AM, SCJoniGuy@aol.com writes about "River": << The song, one of the saddest and prettiest of Joni's, works for either gender as is the case for almost her catalogue. "Woman of Heart & Mind" notwithstanding! ;~) >> And then again, even "Magdalene Lauderies" can be sung by a man, as Les Ross proved so memorably at Jonifest 2001. --Bob Murphy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 11:39:47 EST From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: Small World In a message dated 11/19/01 10:21:05 AM, phyliss@goldenfigclay.com writes: << I guess it really is a small world after all! >> Yes, Phyliss, the world is apparently an incorrectly spelled Spanish handkerchief. --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 12:00:00 EST From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: Small World Sorry I forgot to tag the subject line in my last post with a NJC. --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 11:16:40 EST From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: Small World In a message dated 11/19/01 10:21:05 AM, phyliss@goldenfigclay.com writes: << I guess it really is a small world after all! >> Yes, Phyliss, the world is apparently an incorrectly spelled Spanish handkerchief. --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 20:27:10 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: brilliant, but not easy to listen to > I find I am not as interested in being disturbed, I'm > just not really in the mood and would rather focus on brighter more positive > things. This is not to say I am not concerned about *actual* problems and > heartaches in the real world but perhaps place a greater value now on time > and quality of life and just don't feel a need or desire to explore or > experience a darker side. Voctor-I would say this is a positve and healthy attitude to have! Why burden yourslef with too much shit? It seems you are sensitive and that probably translates in to the way yopu treat people, having comapssion for them, and doing what you can. This doesn't mean you have to immerse yourself in other people's pain. The listening I do on a regular basis to abuse survivors could easily send one over the edge, and can lead to a very negative outlook on life. It did for a while. I choose to listen to upbeat music and also am more careful about what i choose to watch in the way of tv and film. I don't want too much realism and I don't really need to be told how bad life can be. i know. I listen to it day in and day out. Having said that, sometimes it is healthy to listen to or watch stuff that is depressing. It helps get you in touch with your feelings, process them and get the hell out! TI does that for me! Magdelene Laundries, Sex Kills, Job's Sad Song, Turbulent Indigo, Sunny Sunday, in fact most of them. It acts as a release valve. if I want to be lifted up I don't often put on Joni. Too heavy, mostly. There is a big difference tho between what you describe and thos people who just choose to ignore the suffering in this world and thereby add to it. You aren't doing that. I think there is also a way to express pain and make your point without alienating. Admittedly that is not easy. Yoiu are right-you have no reason to feel ashamed of being sensitive. It is a good quality, if a difficult one to live with at times. Just rememebr that those you complain you are being too sensitve and are usually insensitve and or abusive people.(abusive people are not necessarily deliberately being so-they are insensitive to it so don't recognize it). So stay sensitive and protect yourself. You are useless to yourself and to others if you if you don't take care of yourself. bw coluin ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 16:26:01 EST From: BigWaltinSF@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni's painting & technical terms In a message dated 11/19/01 12:49:04 AM, KakkiB@worldnet.att.net writes: << By the way Walt, when are you going to tell us about your gathering in San Francisco?? And where's the rest of youse who were there? ;-) >> Yo, Kakki and all, I finally have an afternoon free (and my fingers working reasonably well), and will be sending my account of our get-together here in SF on the jone-ster's b-day later today. I think no-one else has bothered because they *assumed* I'd do it, given my having the biggest mouth amongst the SF Bay jmdlers -- if not in the Bay Area, period. :-) hugs, walt ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 22:06:38 -0800 From: Richard Stevens Subject: How do I unsubscribe? Richard ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 19:53:02 EST From: BigWaltinSF@aol.com Subject: Albums sounding alike Hi, all, I was reading the latest deigest, and digressing from a discussion of Laura Nyro, Bob M. (SCjoniguy) started musing about albums sounding alike. It's been on *my* mind since TtT. In some ways, I compare DJRD to Hejira becuase they have a similar sound -- and of course, several or many of the songs on DJ had been composed during the same explosive period of creativity that had created Hejira. (I remember her singing Coyote, DJRD the song, Talk To Me and one other song from Hejira when I saw her in '76, whatever tour that was -- between Hissing and Hejira) But when TtT came out, I had the feeling that the mix or styles and tempoes was sort of a closing of a book of sorts, a summing up. And in retrospect, DJRD (the album) reminds me of that same feeling -- that there was a hodgepodge because she was ready to move on to something else. She certainly didn't stop recording, but she did move on musically. If so, we should be reassured -- she's not stopping (we know that already, of course, since she's recording, possbily as I write this -- what a nice thought!), she's just waiting to see where her muse will lead her next. Anyone else feel that way? Warmly, Walt ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 20:22:52 EST From: BigWaltinSF@aol.com Subject: Man of Heart & Mind :-) Hi, all, Bob Wrote: (at the tail end of a list of men who have done "River") <> Know you were kidding, but long ago, when I used to play (piano) and sing for myself and for anyone unlucky enough to be nearby, I reworked the lyrics for this song to fit a man. Of course, even less change is necessary if the song is sung from the point of view of a gay man singing to another man. But really: Has any man ever covered the song? It's soooo beautiful. Just curious, Walt ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 19:40:47 -0600 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: judgement of the moon and stars of all the great joni tunes, I am always drawn back to this one. in my opinion, the best of the best. the more I listen to For the Roses, it slowly, yet surely, surpasses court and spark. I am lucky for I have yet to discover more Joni as do not have all of the albums yet. Keep listening to Hejira hoping to find it, what I keep reading is there, but have not yet done so. Mack ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 20:52:47 -0500 From: "Victor Johnson" Subject: Re: judgement of the moon and stars > of all the great joni tunes, I am always drawn back to this one. in my > opinion, the best of the best. I love this tune also...I have fond memories of staying up every night for several weeks, listening to it over and over, picking out all the notes on the piano, and then playing it with Leslie Mixon in Topsfield...it is forever etched into my soul. I wish peace and comfort for your friend. Victor in Athens, wishing I could on a road trip to Texas or Mexico or Canada or the lost city of Atlantis Victor Johnson http://www.cdbaby.com/victorjohnson "Velveteen rabbits and moonbeams, Come when you lay down your head. While you are sleeping, they kiss you and tell you, That you are the reason the sun lights the sky." Scarlet-V. Johnson ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 18:00:35 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: A Case John VT, how nice to hear from you! I love reading your review of this concert...it sounds like an amazing hall... >>>Just wanted to share this with you ... Last Wednesday, Amsterdam, the Concertgebouw. Diana Krall in Concert<<< ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics www.polysonics.com Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 19:55:38 -0600 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: Re: judgement of the moon and stars > Victor in Athens, wishing I could on a road trip to Texas or Mexico or > Canada or the lost city of Atlantis Please let me go too Victor. Your words bare your soul and it is a soul that I very much like. Mack ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 22:14:34 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Man of Heart & Mind :-) << But really: Has any man ever covered the song? It's soooo beautiful. >> Minnie Ripperton is the only one I've been able to find thus far. She changes the infamous line to "lay with strangers". So you might say she sings the fuck out of it! :~) I'd have liked to hear your take on it, Walt...there really are no boundaries I suppose. After all, Joni used to sing "Winter Lady" live and said that she wrote it for a man to sing to a woman, but liked it so much she sings it as well. Bob NP: Roger Cardwell, "The Circle Game" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 22:29:44 EST From: BigWaltinSF@aol.com Subject: Re: Man of Heart & Mind :-) In a message dated 11/19/01 7:14:34 PM, SCJoniGuy wrote (re my version of "Woman of Heart and Mind" way back when): << I'd have liked to hear your take on it, Walt >> You know what -- it's been twentiy years since I sang my version, but I bet I can reconstruct my lyrics if i try. I'll let you, and everyone, know what I come up with. It won't be earth-shaking, of course, because (1) the original was so perfect and my changes were minimal, as I dimly recall, and (2) I'm *so* not a poet. :-) fondly, Walt ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 22:39:41 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: 44 seconds of prime Joni cover free! Stumbled upon this one today while looking for Joni covers: http://www.vocalogy.net/mp3s/drycleaner.mp3 It's a 44-second excerpt of Vocalogy's cover of "Dry Cleaner"...Manhattan Transfer style. I'm on the case trying to get the entire thing... Bob NP: Leslie Ritter/Scott Petito, "Woodstock" (ooooooh it's nice!) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 23:05:40 -0500 From: Gary Zack Subject: Re: Man of Heart & Mind :-) BigWalt wrote: > << But really: Has any man ever covered the song? It's soooo beautiful. >> > Then SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: > Minnie Ripperton is the only one I've been able to find thus far. She changes the infamous line to "lay with strangers". So you might say she sings the fuck out of it! :~) I'd have liked to hear your take on it, Walt...there really are no boundaries I suppose. After all, Joni used to sing "Winter Lady" live and said that she wrote it for a man to sing to a woman, but liked it so much she sings it as well. > Bob > > NP: Roger Cardwell, "The Circle Game" I definitely agree here Bob. I know that in the past I used to record changing the lyrics from "he" to "she" when supposedly necessary to appear "normal" but I've grown to believe that a writer's lyrics should usually be sung the way they were written. Women have been doing this for years (singing songs in the man's persona), but there seems to have been a stigma against other men saying "he", which perhaps comes from a somewhat homophobic society. Being such a fan of Laura Nyro and Joni, and having done many of their songs through the years, guess I just decided to leave well enough alone!!! I have an old recording I did of Laura's "Tom Cat Goodby" that I did back in the '70s and I didn't change a word. Even sang it in the clubs that way. I loved the song and there just wasn't a better way to do it!! All the best, Gary ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 23:13:59 EST From: BigWaltinSF@aol.com Subject: Fwd: Man of Heart & Mind :-) In a message dated 11/19/01 7:59:51 PM, garyzack@ameritech.net writes: [clip] << I have an old recording I did of Laura's "Tom Cat Goodby" that I did back in the '70s and I didn't change a word. Even sang it in the clubs that way. I loved the song and there just wasn't a better way to do it!! >> Gary -- That is so cool! I was a Laura fan before I was a Joni fan, and Tom Cat Goodby is a masterpiece of changing moods and tempos, and you're right, I wouldn't change a word -- and may or may not follow up on my threat/promise of reconstructing my "male" version of Woman of Heart&Mind. warmly, walt Return-path: From: BigWaltinSF@aol.com Full-name: BigWaltinSF Message-ID: <69.1e35e1ee.292b3205@aol.com> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 23:11:49 EST Subject: Re: Man of Heart & Mind :-) To: garyzack@ameritech.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Mac - Post-GM sub 147 In a message dated 11/19/01 7:59:51 PM, garyzack@ameritech.net writes: << I have an old recording I did of Laura's "Tom Cat Goodby" that I did back in the '70s and I didn't change a word. Even sang it in the clubs that way. I loved the song and there just wasn't a better way to do it!! >> Gary -- That is so cool! I was a Laura fan before I was a Joni fan, and Tome Cat Goodby is a masterpiece of changing moods and tempos, and you're right, I wouldn't change a word -- and may or may not follow up on my threat/promise of reconstructing my "male" version of Woman of Heart&Mind. warmly, walt ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 23:18:36 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Man of Heart & Mind :-) << I loved the song and there just wasn't a better way to do it!! >> I can relate, Gary...when I sang "Amelia" at Jonifest, I didn't consider changing the lyric to fit me. And it worked just fine. And of course, how can I mention "Winter Lady" without acknowledging your superb take on it! Bob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 23:35:15 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Man of Heart & Mind :-) Gary wrote: >I have an old recording I did of Laura's "Tom Cat Goodby" that I did back in the '70s and I didn't change > a word. Even sang it in the clubs that way. I loved the song and there > just wasn't a better way to do it!! And I am a lucky recipient of that recording! I also recall trying to make you play and sing it along with me at Coyote Rick's when you were here. Oh well, I dream big. Heh heh - thank you again for the indulgence ;-) Kakki ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #359 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?