From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #349 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Sunday, November 11 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 349 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Joni Tribute (long) ["Kakki" ] Guitar discussion ["Paul Castle" ] Re: Joni Tribute (long) [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: That three book thingie... [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Joni on Bravo [AsharaJM@aol.com] Re: Joni Tribute (long) [HejiraJM@aol.com] Re: Joni Tribute (long) ["Mark or Travis" ] Re: JMDL Digest V2001 #540 [Chorando6@aol.com] Re: JMDL Digest V2001 #540 [colin ] Re:Joni on Bravo [FMYFL@aol.com] Re: Joni on Bravo [AsharaJM@aol.com] Re: Joni Tribute (long) [Michael Paz ] Shadows & Light bio ["Mark or Travis" ] Re: Shadows & Light bio [Mark Domyancich ] Re: Shadows & Light bio [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Shadows & Light bio ["Kakki" ] Champ Hood, Toni Price [Rob Jordan ] The Last Waltz 2002 [Nuriel Tobias ] Re: That three book thingie. [johnirving ] BSN - Life As A House [Leslie Mixon ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 01:34:13 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Joni Tribute (long) Kate, Congratulations - this is just fantastic! I'm so glad it went so well for and that you will continue the tradition for next year. Maybe next year I can get my friend Harold to participate! Maybe next year we can get Joni to drive up the coast, too! Hope that you can tree the audio - we'd love to hear this! Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 12:06:08 -0000 From: "Paul Castle" Subject: Guitar discussion Kate - so pleased to hear the tribute went well - how I would have loved to be there. You asked: > can someone remind me of how to sign up for the guitar discussion list? > thanks. Go to http://www.jmdl.com/wanderer/ to join send an e-mail to majordomo@smoe.org with a message in the 'body' of your e-mail saying subscribe wanderer Sue is currently still researching "links, news items, possibly sound files and other cool stuff about alternately tuning your guitar" - so any good online resources would be welcomed, I'm sure. Here's one I've just found that I'm planning to look around today. Tom Loredo's "Acoustic Guitarists' Annotated Guide to the Internet" http://www.museweb.com/ag/ His 'Alternate Tuning Guide for Contemporary Folk Music' is at http://www.museweb.com/ag/technique.html#tunings and includes tunings for songs by the likes of Bob Bennett (any relation, Kate?), Edie Brickell , Jonatha Brooke/The Story, Wendy Bucklew, Mary Chapin Carpenter, Shawn Colvin, Billy Crockett, Ani DiFranco, Kat Eggleston, Bob Franke, Greg Greenway (met Greg at the Folk Alliance in Vancouver - what a nice guy!!), Nanci Griffith, Richie Havens, Michael Hedges, Indigo Girls, Phil Keaggy, Patty Larkin, Mary McCaslin, Billy McLaughlin, Michael McNevin Joni Mitchell (see below), Carrie Newcomer, Ellis Paul, Pierce Pettis, Willy Porter, Chuck Pyle, Dana Robinson, Lynne Saner Martin Sexton, Martin Simpson, Troll For Trout, David Wilcox, Brooks Williams, and Dar Williams Tom Loredo's comments on Joni Mitchell are at: http://www.museweb.com/ag/tunings/fm_tunings.html#JM describing http://www.jmdl.com/guitar/ as "An amazingly well-organized and comprehensive collection of Joni tunings and guitar chords and tab" and suggesting a few other net resources (which he describes as probably less accessible than the above). all the best PaulC ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 07:45:15 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni Tribute (long) << I am still on such a high from this...thanks for listening! >> Wow, Kate...and I'm on a high from READING it! I'm SO happy that this was such a hit, and that you hit all the marks. Congrats to you for such a great payoff to all your hard work. And I know what you mean about the place being sold out...when we had the Howlin' Wolf gig, and all these people come in, it just reinforces our feelings about Joni's greatness and just how deep her fan base is. Can't wait to hear it, and I'll do my best to make the NEXT one! ;~) Bob NP: Shawn Colvin, "I'll Be Back" live '97 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 07:51:46 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: That three book thingie... << --maybe this one got under our radar... anyone care to give it a shot??? >> That DOES look interesting, John...I'd love to hear if somebody knows more about it. They say it has a 4-6 week lead time. It may be something that was SUPPOSED to come out but never did. Bob NP: Rickie Lee, "Atlas' Marker", live '97 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 10:35:02 EST From: AsharaJM@aol.com Subject: Joni on Bravo Yesterday's show on Bravo, featuring Joni, was a really nicely put together segment about 15 minutes long. It featured her return to Saskatoon for the opening of the Mendel exhibition and quite a bit of it came from the Press Conference, which is already on Video Tree #2. (Of course, the big difference is that you can actually hear what she is saying on the Bravo segement.) ;-) Did anyone else catch it? Hugs, Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 10:37:50 EST From: HejiraJM@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni Tribute (long) Rose here from NJ....cable is out, so I had to sign on to this different screen name so I don't get charged by the minute! This is so wonderful Kate! I'm so thrilled for you and relieved that you had some good friends to help you come through, despite the many technical difficulties you encountered. I don't care what they say, there's nothing like the sound of an acoustical guitar :0) all my best, Rose ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 09:16:14 -0800 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: Joni Tribute (long) > Yes, we taped it. Haven't listened yet. Jeff has & says it turned out mostly > good...only a few glitches...will get copies to the musicians & see if they > are willing to let ya'll hear it & someone on the jmdl can tree it > hopefully.... > > I am still on such a high from this...thanks for listening! Kate this is sooooooo cool! Congratulations on a what sounds like a wonderful evening of Joni's music. You have a right to be proud of yourself! I'm sure we all are. Mark E. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 12:44:31 EST From: Chorando6@aol.com Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2001 #540 In a message dated 10/11/01 05:15:34 GMT Standard Time, les@jmdl.com writes: > but how can you *truly* appreciate her if you dont appreciate that sexy body > ??? :-) Funny you should mention that. I do find babs very sexy along with Celine dion and joni!! Joni swimming in that pool on the inner sleeve of HOSL, celine in her tight body suits and babs doing her aerobics in the main Event. As a gay man I still find women sexy. Being gay doesn't render me blind to the sexual allure of women. I just don't go for tit wanks and the like!! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 18:15:31 +0000 From: colin Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2001 #540 > Being gay doesn't render me blind to > the sexual allure of women. I just don't go for tit wanks and the like!! too true! How about Helen Mirren for sexy? - -- bw colin DAK,BRO GC, 950i, 940,860,864,890, 260,Silver 830,860, 580 and 270, Passap 6000, Duo80. colin@tantra-apso.com http://www.tantra-apso.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 14:05:08 EST From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re:Joni on Bravo Ashara wrote: <> I did Ashara, and it was very good (short, but good). I kept looking for any of the jmdlers in the crowd. I got a glimpse of Kerry in the background, and also of David Mingus' partner (David Rolls) who was doing some videotaping. I think Bravo is airing the segment a few more times next week for those who missed it. Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 14:37:36 EST From: AsharaJM@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni on Bravo In a message dated 11/10/2001 2:05:08 PM Eastern Standard Time, FMY FL writes: > I did Ashara, and it was very good (short, but good). I kept looking for > any of the jmdlers in the crowd. I got a glimpse of Kerry in the > background, and also of David Mingus' partner (David Rolls) who was doing > some videotaping. > I'm in there too, very briefly, videotaping at the Press Conference. :-) Hugs, Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 14:46:44 -0800 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Joni Tribute (long) Kate Wow what an incredible story. I am SO proud of you (but also think you are crazy as I have tried to produce and perform and no how insane that is). I would love to hear the tape and would be happy to be a branch if it is tree'd. I wish I could have been there with you guys. Maybe next year. I am coming out there for NAMM and hope to see you guys there. Love to you and Jeff Michael NP-Georgia-Jack Neilson Live at the Ugly Dawg Saloon on 11/9/01 10:41 PM, Kate Bennett at kate@katebennett.com wrote: > We had the most amazing night. > > Yes, we taped it. Haven't listened yet. Jeff has & says it turned out mostly > good...only a few glitches...will get copies to the musicians & see if they > are willing to let ya'll hear it & someone on the jmdl can tree it > hopefully.... > > I am still on such a high from this...thanks for listening! > ******************************************** > Kate Bennett ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 13:57:51 -0800 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Shadows & Light bio This morning I read the section of Karen O'Brien's book titled 'Dreams and False Alarms'. This chapter covers Joni's stint with Rolling Thunder and the recording of 'Hejira', 'DJRD' and 'Mingus'. There were a couple of what appear to be minor discrepancies in this section. Maybe I'm wrong so I thought I'd throw this out to y'all. When talking about 'The Last Waltz', Karen says Joni returned to the stage 'to join Neil Young on harmony vocals when The Band played 'Acadian Driftwood'. Now the only song I'm aware of that Joni sang harmony with Neil on in 'The Last Waltz' was 'Helpless'. I'm not familiar with 'Acadian Driftwood'. Was it performed in 'The Last Waltz' concert and if so, did Joni provide harmony vocal? The other thing that didn't sound right to me was in reference to the Rolling Stone interview that Joni did at the time 'Mingus' was released. Karen says the interview as done by Ben Sidran. The only Rolling Stone interview that Joni did in this time frame that I'm aware of was with Cameron Crowe. Was there another one with Sidran? Inquiring Joni minds want to know! Otherwise I am really enjoying reading this book. Most of Karen's take on Joni's career is right on the money, imo. And why isn't Joni writing these days, as Lama was asking? Or is she? Kakki seemed to think recent events may have stimulated her muse again but is it really disgust with the music business that has silenced her pen since 'Taming the Tiger'? I still maintain that record had some lovely & interesting new work on it & I still want more. Mark E. PS: In reply to Anne Sandstrom's post of a while back, I also read Joni's mock introduction of Mohammed Ali. My take is that she was fed up with all of what she probably perceived as pseudo-liberal championing of a man that she had begun to think might not be so innocent after all. So she shot her mouth off. Also, it sounds like she & Ms. Baez were not particularly simpatico on the Rolling Thunder stint and we've had hints that their relationship has been thorny over the years. Was it appropriate or pc? No. Does it mean she's a racist? No, I most certainly do not think so. Most all of us have made less than pretty remarks at one time or another that we maybe regret. Taken out of context some of them can be pretty damning. And sometimes put in context they can still be pretty damning. But I don't think one remark necessarily frames a person's whole character and attitudes. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 16:17:09 -0600 From: Mark Domyancich Subject: Re: Shadows & Light bio Yes, she contributed vocals to Acadian Driftwood but it's difficult to hear her over the other players. I think everyone who performed that night sang or played on that song. Mark NP-Tim Reynolds, Decline in Reason At 1:57 PM -0800 11/10/01, Mark or Travis wrote: >When talking about 'The Last Waltz', Karen says Joni returned to the >stage 'to join Neil Young on harmony vocals when The Band played >'Acadian Driftwood'. Now the only song I'm aware of that Joni sang >harmony with Neil on in 'The Last Waltz' was 'Helpless'. I'm not >familiar with 'Acadian Driftwood'. Was it performed in 'The Last >Waltz' concert and if so, did Joni provide harmony vocal? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 18:17:06 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Shadows & Light bio << I'm not familiar with 'Acadian Driftwood'. Was it performed in 'The Last Waltz' concert and if so, did Joni provide harmony vocal? >> Mark, "Acadian Driftwood" is a Band song...it's a beautiful story-song in the tradition of 'The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down". One of my faves of theirs, it was originally recorded on their masterpiece "Northern Lights, Southern Cross". Joni's full set (or at least some of the bonus songs) is available on one of the 'Unplugged & Jamming' volumes. It features: Helpless (joni in the backing vocals, but you can hear her well) Coyote (this one was on the officail release) Shadows & Light (a cool arrangement using The Band) Furry Sings The Blues Acadian Driftwood This CD also contains lots of other cool stuff, like the Johnny Cash TV stuff, some duets with Pete Seeger (Mr. Tambourine Man, Both Sides Now) & a couple other things as well. Of course it's available to anyone for blanks & postage. Bob, heading out to see Victor in Cosmic Charlie. I'll tell him y'all said "HEY" :~) Bob NP: Jonatha Brooke, "Blood From A Stone", live 2001 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 15:25:56 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Shadows & Light bio Mark E. wrote: > And why isn't Joni writing these days, as Lama was asking? Or is she? Kakki seemed to think recent events may have >stimulated her muse again but is it really disgust with the music business that has silenced her pen since 'Taming the Tiger'? I >still maintain that record had some lovely & interesting new work on it & I still want more. I meant to answer Lama on this, too. When Stephen and I were talking with her a month ago, I asked her something about why she wasn't writing anymore. She said "no one wants to hear what I have to say anymore." We loudly protested this and then she admitted "this war has got me writing again." My own personal hunch is that Joni is probably brimming over with music and lyrics from recent events (and also perhaps the concurrent break-up with Donald). I've thought for awhile now that she still has some of her greatest albums yet to come, whether she wanted to focus on that in recent years or not. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 23:52:51 +0000 From: Rob Jordan Subject: Champ Hood, Toni Price <> I was really saddened to read about Champ's death. Visiting Austin on a business trip in about 94/95, I dropped in at the Continental Club on a recommendation to hear Toni's famous Happy Hour / Hippie Hour set. I was squeezed in, this stranger from the UK, bottle of Shiner Bock in hand, next to a nice woman who introduced herself as Dorothea and said she was Champ's friend. It was a fabulous show, really great atmosphere. Champ played guitar and fiddle, the great Rich Brotherton and 'Scrappy' Newcomb also on guitars, Toni sang her heart out. After the show, Dorothea said it was Champ's birthday and would I like to share his birthday cake? Which I did. Shook his hand and said "thanks for the show". Last Christmas, a friend who lives in Austin and knows a little about my passion for Austin music gave me a great gift of a local cassette-only release of the Threadgill Supper Sessions - the Threadgill Troubadours being the all star band that Champ led at a legendary Austin eating place. I almost bled that tape dry over the Christmas season. Beautiful soulful music. Farewell, Champ Hood. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 16:34:37 -0800 (PST) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: The Last Waltz 2002 Hi everyone In case you don't already know, i'm happy to let you know that: The Band - The Last Waltz - 117 min. - MGM/UA - Warner Home Video R-18 Laserdisc: MGM Home Video - ML 100482 DVD and remastered CD w/ bonus tracks to be released in 2002. Ciao, Nuri _____________________________________________________________ Free email, web pages, news, entertainment, weather and MORE! Check out -------------------------------> http://wowmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 20:44:43 -0600 From: johnirving Subject: Re: That three book thingie. Help! Somebody stop me from spending...!!! I broke down and ordered the Joni Audio book from Amazon.com.uk. I figured the worst thing that could happen is it was meant to be released but wasn't. And the best thing that could happen would be an hours (?) worth of Joni in conversation, which would make the thing worth it's weight in gold. Funny bit of extra... When I hit the click, Amazon had a link to yet another joni Item, an E-book in adobe format: Joni Mitchell, Both Sides Now illustrated by Alan Baker. Now the question is... do I break down and order this as well??? If it's just the lyrics to the song with pictures... forget it. But who knows... it might be more. Arrrggghhhh! I've spent wayyy to much money this week. After 2 months of being good, my credit card is getting a work out. Someone stop me, please. http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00005NJBM/ref=pd_uk_1c_1/202-9401264-0304645 If the audio book is real, would it be piracy to tree it for list? -In parts maybe? NP :Broke, but not done spending. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 22:54:02 -0800 From: Leslie Mixon Subject: BSN - Life As A House On this rainy Saturday afternoon, Steve and I decided to catch a matinee. We chose the new Kevin Kline film, "Life As A House." During a pivotal moment in the film, his ex-wife (played by Kristin Scott Thomas) puts a CD in the player and all of a sudden Joni is singing the orchestral version of BSN; Mark Isham scored the music for the film. Before I knew it the tears were flowing, both mine and Steve's. I think Kevin Kline is a terrific dramatic actor. Leslie ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #349 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?