From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #344 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Tuesday, November 6 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 344 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Today in Joni History: November 5 [les@jmdl.com] Peace parades [Nuriel Tobias ] Re: Peace parades [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Peace parades [Nuriel Tobias ] WFUV 90.7 [Susan McNamara ] Re: WFUV 90.7 [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: WFUV 90.7 [Susan McNamara ] Re: Joni poster wanted ["blonde in the bleachers" ] Re: WFUV 90.7 ["Sybil Skelton" ] Joni and Old Navy [Murphycopy@aol.com] Re: WFUV 90.7 ["Mark or Travis" ] Re: fruitless ["Mark or Travis" ] Re: Peace parades ["Mark or Travis" ] Pink Floyd compilation released tomorrow [Relayer211@aol.com] amelia/jonifest ["Wally Kairuz" ] Re: amelia/jonifest ["Victor Johnson" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2001 03:19:21 -0500 From: les@jmdl.com Subject: Today in Joni History: November 5 On November 5 in Joni Mitchell History: 1965: Tonight Joni performs at The Chess Mate in Detroit - the second of four nights in a row. 1994: Turbulent Indigo hits #53 in the United Kingdom. 1995: From Wally's Bio page: [Today,] Joni performed a short set at a dinner honoring cartoonist Garry Trudeau at the Waldorf-Astoria Hotel. She was accompanied by drummer Brian Blade, whom she'd met that past May at the New Orleans Jazz Festival. 1998: Joni performs in College Park, Maryland. More info: http://www.jmdl.com/performances/docs/981105.cfm http://jonimitchell.com/RoadAgainMaryland1198.html - ------------------------ Search the "Today" database: http://www.jmdl.com/today ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 04:16:25 -0800 (PST) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: Peace parades Hi I was thinking about a line in "Nathan La Franeer" saying "And the sky goes on forever without meter maids and peace parades". What do you think is Joni's point of view when saying that there are no peace parades in the sky? Is Joni mocking the peace parades on earth? Or maybe the sky for not knowing what it's like to fight for peace? Nuriel _____________________________________________________________ Free email, web pages, news, entertainment, weather and MORE! Check out -------------------------------> http://wowmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2001 10:04:53 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Peace parades <> I don't think she's mocking anything, Nuriel...at this point in the "story" of the song, Joni's checked her luggage and is presumably on the plane and flying, and just commenting that the sky goes on forever, and contrasts it with meter maids & peace parades that are earthly things. I would equate it with the line about symphonies & dirty trees...maybe she's making a dichotomy out of it, saying that the same culture that has symphonies has to put up with dirty trees, just like the same city streets that can be used for peace parades are subject to being patrolled by meter maids. Hopefully that makes a wee bit o' sense! Bob NP: AC/DC, "Spellbound" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 10:51:08 -0800 (PST) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: Re: Peace parades Yes, the word mocking is surely not the right one to use, but isn't this amazing song about escaping from the cunfusion caused by everything that's false (in the city) to the earthly truth she finds in Sisotowbell Lane? In that list of parks and plastic clothes cars and buses and cripples seeling balloons and the rush hour of buyers and sellers, making Joni seem like Lot escaping from his flaming city, mentioning the peace parades is weird, and the fact that Joni's included them in her "grey" list is (for my eyes only, Dear Bob) a statement. "Humans are hungry for worlds they can't share" (Song to a Seagull) is surely not mocking the unshared worlds. It's grieving them. As i see it the peace parades are another lost world humans can't share and the way Joni's mentioning them in Nathan makes it seem like they're also caught in the city dirty games. I always felt that if Joni had to choose between joining a peace parade and getting back into the garden she would've chosen to go back to day 1 and create a new world. I realy liked what you said about the fact that Joni's presumably on the plane and flying. I sometimes think that Nathan is like that old man from the Greek Myth that's passing the souls from one side of the river to other. I guess it's the coins theme in the song. Nuriel _____________________________________________________________ Free email, web pages, news, entertainment, weather and MORE! Check out -------------------------------> http://wowmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 15:28:48 -0500 From: Susan McNamara Subject: WFUV 90.7 Hi Leagues of Joni Faithful: WFUV 90.7 NYC public radio is having JONI MITCHELL DAY on Wed, Nov 7 (her nibs birthday). So I just finished an interview with the station about the Guitar Site. The producer said that it will probably be broadcast between 7:00-8:00 am EST. But if you wake up late and miss the pithy things I had to say, no worry--Joni Mitchell Day goes till MIDNIGHT!! You can go to this URL to stream the radio broadcast. http://www.wfuv.org/wfuvlive.asx I was so nervous! If I forgot to say something relevant, I apologize in advance!!! :-) Take care, sue P.S. to Bob: the website says at noon they are doing a bunch of Joni covers!!! Just for you!! :-) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2001 15:38:57 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: WFUV 90.7 <> Cool! Joni covers rule! Wonder which ones they're going to do? Congrats to you too for the interview, Sue! Bob NP: Alice In Chains, "Brush Away" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 15:45:00 -0500 From: Susan McNamara Subject: Re: WFUV 90.7 Here's what it said at the website: WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 7 6 AM-Midnight, City Folk: Our annual birthday tribute to Joni Mitchell. Suggested by WFUV member Susanne Richter. Noon, Under the Covers: It's the songs of Joni Mitchell as covered by others. At 3:38 PM -0500 11/5/01, SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: ><Joni covers!!! Just for you!! :-)>> > >Cool! Joni covers rule! Wonder which ones they're going to do? >Congrats to you too for the interview, Sue! > >Bob > >NP: Alice In Chains, "Brush Away" - -- "Heart and humor and humility will lighten up your heavy load ... " - Joni Mitchell ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2001 12:20:14 -0500 From: "blonde in the bleachers" Subject: Re: Joni poster wanted I got a terrific poster of Joni Mitchell off of ebay, it is from her days with Reprise records, black and white made of very thick paper, not like the flimsy posters of today. I paid a good deal of money for it. I personally think ebay is a great place to get these types of things as I have had much success with it, and it is usually the first place I go when I am looking for something that I want but have no clue where it would be. >From: Steve Dulson >Reply-To: Steve Dulson >To: "jessica wilson" >CC: joni@smoe.org >Subject: Joni poster wanted >Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 17:20:40 -0800 > >Hi Jess! > >I will forward your request to the Joni discussion list - perhaps >someone there has one they want to sell. (Info on the list at >www.jmdl.com.) I would beware of e-bay, as there are fakes about. >Otherwise, I don't know what to suggest. Good luck, and all the >best! > >>my name is jess, and i would like to know if i could get a poster >>of >>Joni Mitchell personally signed by her. ( this is for my mum for >>christmas) and if you are able to do that, would you be able to >>send >>me the detals, like how much will it cost, and things like that. my >>e-mail address is >>jezzaisthebest@hotmail.com, so >>could you please send me back the details. >> thank you, from jess > >(jmdlers please reply directly to Jess as she is not on the list) >-- >######################################################## >Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA steve@psitech.com >"The Tinker's Own" http://www.tinkersown.com >"The Living Tradition Concert Series" >http://www.thelivingtradition.org/ - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 15:01:30 -0600 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: fruitless Off the 45 miles to the adjoining town today to pick up supplies to repair my car where I hit a deer, or it hit me. Mission accomplished so as I drove by Hastings Book and Record Store and decided that I deserved a treat. Had not been to a record store in months and have worked hard so in I went, full of excitement and pondering what Joni album I would buy. I thought to myself that I don't have Hissing of Summer Lawns and anything with that kind of title has to be marvelous. I sauntered through the many titles allowing my appetite to grow and be thoroughly whet when I reached the M section and fantasized about the places that dear Joni would take me with this album. Passed through the Soul section and spent much time there, hoping to see something familiar that I did not have. No such luck and did not recognize most of the titles anyway. Spotted Tina and hoped that it would be something I did not have. No luck again. Finished that aisle and turned around to find the rap section staring me in the face. Ugh! EEEEk! As quickly as possible I ran, desperate to escape from even proximity to that. By this time I had been in the store for 15-20 minutes or so. Of course they were playing tunes on the speaker that went throughout the store. I didn't recognize any of them either and had not yet heard one that I liked or even found the least bit talented or interesting. I asked the girl behind the counter what was playing. She told me it was a compilation of sorts (paraphrasing her response) of the top hits of today. I could not resist saying that I thought they all sucked. She gave me an odd look. Back to my search I went. Moving over to the pop section I was growing really uncomfortable and rather sick to my stomach having to listen to the shit wafting through the air so I decided to cut to the chase and find Joni and get out of there. I spied her name and there behind the plastic card were three cd's. Court and Spark, Hits, and Ladies of the Canyon. Fuck, I thought. I have those. Damnit. How could a store this size not have more than this? Fully disappointed I searched for some kind of replacement but no Bonnie, no Carole, no Melissa, no Hall and Oates, no Luther; that I did not already have. The shit continued to fill my head. I thought "I AM IN HELL" I again approached the clerk and asked her if she had any Joni in the back. "Who?', she said. Joni, Joni Mitchell, I said. "I've never heard of her", she giggled. I said "never mind". Thought I would give the cassette tape section a try before I left. No Joni there at all. Moved over to the soul section but it was not there. Found all the R and B and music that had been called soul when I was growing up labeled Urban. What's with that? Who thought that up? Again, defeat. No Stylistics, no Spinners, no Earth, Wind, and Fire. Did find a Betty Wright tape that looked good but cost too much in relation to how much I like her. Thought I should buy something since I came in here. Finally just gave up and left. Got into the car and plugged Court and Spark back into the player. Another fruitless search for satisfaction in Central Texas. Mack ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2001 15:51:17 -0600 From: "Sybil Skelton" Subject: Re: WFUV 90.7 I live in an area of the country totally devoid of any kind of interesting, innovative, or intelligent radio - Dallas Texas. I recently discovered WFUV, and have been listening to their live stream on the internet at work. It's completely addictive. There is absolutely nothing in this part of Texas even remotely similar. The local public station used to have an eclectic mix of music programming once upon a time, but it's all news and information now. I was so excited when I heard about WFUV's Joni day, and I suspected that the listener who suggested it was one of our list members. Sadly, because of the time zone differences I won't be able to hear Sue's pithy remarks on Wednesday morning, but I will be listening most of the workday. If I could just figure out a way to pick that station up on my car radio, it would be heavenly. Enjoy Sybil _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 19:41:34 EST From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Joni and Old Navy There's an article online at http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/011105/nym051_1.html that says that Joni, among other celebs, will have something in an auction Old Navy is sponsoring for the benefit of arts education in public schools. The idea is for celebrities to "customize Old Navy pieces" for the auction, which will be held at oldnavy.com from Nov. 8 - 18. --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 18:02:32 -0800 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: WFUV 90.7 > Hi Leagues of Joni Faithful: > > WFUV 90.7 NYC public radio is having JONI MITCHELL DAY on Wed, Nov 7 > (her nibs birthday). > > So I just finished an interview with the station about the Guitar > Site. The producer said that it will probably be broadcast between > 7:00-8:00 am EST. Sue, this is SO cool! Good for you! Congratulations! How does it feel to be a star? ;-) Mark E. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 18:19:51 -0800 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: fruitless Thought I should buy something since I came in here. > Finally just gave up and left. Got into the car and plugged Court and Spark > back into the player. Another fruitless search for satisfaction in Central > Texas. > > Mack > Maybe you should start shopping online, Mack. Use either of these URLs and the Joni Mitchell home pages get a cut: For CD Universe: http://cdu2.cduniverse.com/asp/cdu_main.asp?frm=lk_jmdl of for CD Now: http://www.cdnow.com/from=sr-159240 Mark E. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 18:33:42 -0800 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: Peace parades In that list of parks and plastic clothes cars and buses and cripples seeling balloons and the rush hour of buyers and sellers, making Joni seem like Lot escaping from his flaming city, mentioning the peace parades is weird, and the fact that Joni's included them in her "grey" list is (for my eyes only, Dear Bob) a statement. "Humans are hungry for worlds they can't share" (Song to a Seagull) is surely not mocking the unshared worlds. It's grieving them. As i see it the peace parades are another lost world humans can't share and the way Joni's mentioning them in Nathan makes it seem like they're also caught in the city dirty games. I think there's something in what Bob said about Joni being somewhat ambivalent about leaving the City. She talks about the 'ghostly garden' but when she lists the things it grows with, she mentions symphonies (culture, beauty, positive) along with the dirty trees (pollution, negative) and parks (peaceful, positive) along with the plastic clothes (superficial, negative) and peace parades (positive action) along with the meter maids (money-grubbers, negative) and wishing wells (hopeful, positive) along with the burglar bells (negative, crime, fear, paranoia). So she does still have a few positive things to say about the City. I think she is saying she is sad that she will have to give up the parks & the peace parades & the wishing wells to get away from the other negative stuff. The verse about gangs and girlie shows doesn't fit this pattern, however. I can't see that Joni would find anything she would miss about gangs or girlie shows. Mark E. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 23:16:27 EST From: Relayer211@aol.com Subject: Pink Floyd compilation released tomorrow For all fellow P. F. fans: The 26 song Pink Floyd compilation "Echoes" will be released tomorrow. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 01:19:01 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: amelia/jonifest i was just remembering how great it was to sing amelia with leslie, michael, claudia, steve p, kate, chuck, etc etc etc. i can still remember the thrill of being next to the ladies as we did the vocals. and i got to take my favorite stanza: ''i pulled into the cactus tree motel...'' is that on tape??????? love to you all. wallyK ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 23:52:27 -0500 From: "Victor Johnson" Subject: Re: amelia/jonifest > i was just remembering how great it was to sing amelia with leslie, michael, > claudia, steve p, kate, chuck, etc etc etc. Singing Amelia is one the most wonderful things I have ever experienced. I just can't get enough of that song. I also enjoyed playing it on bass that evening at jonifest. Victor Victor Johnson http://www.cdbaby.com/victorjohnson "Velveteen rabbits and moonbeams, Come when you lay down your head. While you are sleeping, they kiss you and tell you, That you are the reason the sun lights the sky." Scarlet-V. Johnson ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #344 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?