From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #342 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Sunday, November 4 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 342 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Today in Joni History: November 3 [les@jmdl.com] Today's Articles: November 3 [les@jmdl.com] Joni's Gay Album (X-rated) [pyramus@lineone.net] Re: Joni's guitar tunings [Howard > Perhaps Joni should release an album purely for her Gay admirers. I suggest the following tracks. Homophobes and wilting violets please cover your eyes. :) I Had a Queen Willy (Real Good For Free) The Last Time I Sucked Richard The Nipple and the Bum This Guy Tonight God Must Be A Batty Man Woodsuck Friction Shiny Boys Man to Man Youre so Queer (Baby I dont care) Passion Play (When all the gays are free) The Only Boy in Town Two Gay Rooms Both Sides Now Kevin ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2001 11:44:32 +0000 From: Howard Subject: Re: Joni's guitar tunings It's not easy... either you need to go through the Joni guitar chords slowly, so others in the band can make a note of the key notes of each chord (very time consuming!), or you need to come up with chord names that others can follow. Either method takes time ... Of course the best solution is to have other players who can pick up the chords by ear, but this isn't easy. You may be able to take shortcuts where very similar guitar chord shapes are used throughout a song. For example, a song like Cherokee Louise has a lot of similar shapes: 5555xx, 7777xx etc for the major chords 9998xx, 2221xx etc for the minor chords. Once you work out the basic chord type for one shape (e.g 5555xx is Gadd9) you know that the 7777xx is the same chord shifted up - so it will be Aadd9. Similar thing for the minor chords (Bmadd9, Emadd9). It's not *quite* as simple as this though (things never are...!) because some of open strings are often added to the chords, but once you know the names of the open strings, you know these notes can be added to the chords. It's probably easier to break things down this way, as a basic chord types, with open string notes added, instead of working out the exact chord name each time. Howard Laurent Olszer wrote: > > > I think the fact that Joni always worked on alternate tunings, with the > > band used to "normal conventions" made it difficult for her in the early > > days to communicate her ideas. The band members were probably used to > > being told chord names and so on, but Joni's tunings made this > > difficult, and the complex sound of her chords also made it harder for > > the musicians to pick up the notes by ear. > > > > Howard > > Thanks for the info. I have exactly the same problem playing with non-Joni > fans. No problem with the sax + harp players. The others are lost. What > solutions might you recommend? What we need is a Joni songbook for the rest > of the band. But that's probably a long ways away. > > Laurent ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 10:46:25 EST From: Bobsart48@aol.com Subject: Re: Obit - John (Jocko) Roberts - Woodstock Producer Below is the obit from yesterday's NY Times, re the passing of John Roberts, one of the producers of Woodstock. The obit does a nice job, I think, of capturing a bit of what he was like, particularly the third and the last paragraphs. I knew Jocko through bridge. We played in perhaps ten events as teammates (but never as partners). On one of those occasions we won the Reisinger Knockout teams - this is New York's most prestigious annual event, and since it is to date my only win in that event, I felt something of a special kinship to John. Jocko held his own playing against the top players in the country. He was also a true gentleman, and was universally liked in the often egotistical, cutthroat world of bridge - making him a rarity among bridge players. I last saw him in June at a tournament in the city - he was showing the effects of his struggle by then - and I spoke to him about the song Woodstock (which held a special place in his heart, no doubt). Listers who have seen the VH1 or MTV documentary about Woodstock may remember him from that - there were several interview scenes of him in that production, naturally enough. November 2, 2001 John P. Roberts, a Producer of Woodstock and Its Revivals, Dies at 56 By BEN SISARIO

John P. Roberts, a promoter of the Woodstock Music and Art Fair in 1969 and a partner in its revivals in the 90's, died on Saturday at Mount Sinai Hospital in Manhattan. He was 56 and lived in Manhattan. The cause was cancer, said his wife, Rona Roberts. Mr. Roberts, a businessman who nevertheless pursued fun before profit, and whose taste in music favored Gershwin over the Grateful Dead, was one of the young entrepreneurs who had no experience in the music business when they produced Woodstock, a rock concert that helped define its generation. He was 24 at the time and had recently graduated from the University of Pennsylvania. With a friend, Joel Rosenman, Mr. Roberts came across the notion of a large festival concert almost by accident. The men were aspiring writers and had pitched to a television agent the idea of a comedy about two naC/ve young venture capitalists flush with money but no business ideas. For research, they placed an anonymous advertisement in The Wall Street Journal soliciting ideas for a company made up of "young men with unlimited capital." They received some 5,000 responses. The partners followed a few leads and wound up going into business with a recording studio in Manhattan, Mediasound. Soon they heard about two other young men, Michael Lang and Artie Kornfeld, who wanted to build a studio in Woodstock, N.Y. The four men discussed promoting a concert with, as Mr. Rosenman put it, "some of the local talent" b including Bob Dylan and the Band b to raise money for the studio. The four financed their project with inheritance money from Mr. Roberts and with ticket sales, Mr. Rosenman said. Taking as their model the Monterey Pop Festival, which drew 28,000 people, the promoters planned for 50,000 fans. The concert, on Aug. 15- 17, 1969, drew more than half a million people, not all paying customers, to the site in Bethel, N.Y. The concert cost $3.1 million to produce and brought in $1.8 million, a deficit that caught Mr. Roberts and his partners unprepared. But they recovered their loss with royalties from film and album spinoffs, and held on to the profitable name and trademark symbol of a dove on the neck of a guitar. In the years after Woodstock, Mr. Roberts invested in several companies, but avoided the music business. He was also a championship bridge player, and his participation in Woodstock '94 forced the postponement of the Von Zedtwitz Double Knockout Team Championship that year. Besides his wife, he is survived by children Jennifer and Douglas of New York; brothers William and Keith, also of New York; and a sister, Kathy, of Miami. Even as a producer of Woodstock '94, Mr. Roberts made it clear that his interests were in maintaining the peaceful legacy of Woodstock rather than in making money, said John Scher, another producer. "John was a smart businessman," Mr. Scher said, "but he had a lot of heart." Home | Back to Obituaries | Search | Help Back to Top ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 10:51:54 EST From: Bobsart48@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni's Birthday For those New Yorkers who complain that they rarely hear Joni get airplay on the radio, I believe that WFUV 90.7 FM is going to be playing "all JM" on her birthday Wednesday. This may be part of their fundraising season - but we beggars can't be choosers. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 16:59:26 EST From: AsharaJM@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni on BRAVO!!!!!!!! YAY!!!!!!!!! Deb asked: > What is the content of the segment, and how long is it? Does Joni perform? > Talk? I don't get Bravo, and have to decide whether I have to ask a friend > to tape it. > My recollection is that it was mostly an interview, and mostly from when she was in Saskatoon for the Mendel show. Sharon, do you have a better memory from it? Hugs, Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 20:36:09 EST From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: John Kelly's Joni tribute extended The following is from Playbill On-Line <>: John Kelly's 'Shiny Hot Night' Extended at Fez By Robert Simonson, Playbill On-Line Obie-winning performance artist and Downtown darling John Kelly's show Shiny Hot Nights: More Songs of Joni Mitchell, has extended at Fez, the night spot located in the bowels of the Village's Time Cafe. The show will now play through Jan. 12. The evening is a follow-up to Kelly's 1997 effort, Paved Paradise: The Songs of Joni Mitchell. In both, he impersonates and sings the songs of Mitchell, the ethereal blonde pop artist behind such songs as "Woodstock," "Big Yellow Taxi," "Help Me" and "Free Man in Paris." Mitchell is only one of the many eccentric artists Kelly has embodied over the years. Others includes Dagmar Onassis, artist Egon Schiele and transvestite trapeze artist Barbette. As usual in his performance pieces - which he typically writes and creates - Kelly goes beyond impersonation and attains a sort of empathetic spiritual connection with the figures - all of whom he seems to identify with and adore. His work, which has been seen at BAM, Lincoln Center, The Kitchen and Carnegie Hall, has won him two Obies. To conventional Broadway audiences, Kelly is best known the Irish tenor who is an honored guest at the holiday soiree in James Joyce's The Dead. (Kelly is possesses of a fine, if fragile, countertenor voice, which he often uses to striking effect in his shows.) John Kelly, an autobiography published by 2wice Foundation and distributed by Aperture Books, was recently release in bookstores nationwide. All tickets are $20. Shiny Hot Nights: More Songs of Joni Mitchell runs Saturdays through Jan. 12 and Sundays Nov. 18 - Dec. 9 with an additional performance Dec. 3. Fez is located at 380 Lafayette Street (at Great Jones). For information and reservations call (212) 533-2680. ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #342 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?