From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #331 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Wednesday, October 24 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 331 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Today in Joni History: October 23 [les@jmdl.com] Today's Articles: October 23 [les@jmdl.com] And the Oscar goes to JMDL [Nuriel Tobias ] Re: And the Oscar goes to JMDL ["Jamie Zubairi" ] Hobbit Names ["Jamie Zubairi" ] Globe and Mail article ["Deb Messling" ] Santeria? ["Deb Messling" ] Re: Hobbit Names [Nuriel Tobias ] RE: Shadows and Light The Definitive Biography [Anne Sandstrom ] Re: And the Oscar goes to JMDL [jan ] (no subject) ["Sharon L. Buffington" ] Re: Shadows and Light The Definitive Biography [Relayer211@aol.com] Re: Shadows and Light The Definitive Biography [AsharaJM@aol.com] Re: And the Oscar goes to JMDL [KJHSF@aol.com] Radio Paradise & Joni ["Brenda J. Walker" ] Re: Radio Paradise & Joni [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: And the Oscar goes to JMDL [FredNow@aol.com] Re: Shadows and Light The Definitive Biography ["Paul Castle" ] Re: And the Oscar goes to JMDL [Nuriel Tobias ] Re: And the Oscar goes to JMDL [TimandMaryPowers@aol.com] "Get Over It" ["Sue Cameron" ] Re: And the Oscar goes to JMDL ["hell" ] Re: "Get Over It" [Catherine McKay ] Re: on a lighter note. . . (SortaJC) [dsk ] October 24 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Brian Gross ] October 24th!! ["Stephen Epstein" ] A Few Notes From the Harbourfront Hommage [Coyote4Joni@aol.com] Re: October 24th!! ["Kakki" ] Re: October 24 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [RoseMJoy@aol.com] Re: Toronto Tribute ["Kakki" ] RE: October 24 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ["Wally Kairuz" Subject: And the Oscar goes to JMDL Hello everyone, Let's say you were a big movie director and you had all the budget in the world to make the first "The lives and loves of Joni" movie for the big screen. Who would you choose to play Joni? And the other leading roles? If you got Joni to play a part in your film (not as herself) what would it be? What location would you choose? How would you name your film? What would be the first scene and the last one? Yours, Nuri _____________________________________________________________ Free email, web pages, news, entertainment, weather and MORE! Check out -------------------------------> http://wowmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 11:20:59 +0100 From: "Jamie Zubairi" Subject: Re: And the Oscar goes to JMDL For the older Joni I'd choose Lindsay Duncan, and English actor who just looks absolutlely like her. I went to a Rickie Lee Jones gig here in London a couple of years ago and she was in the audience, I thought that it was Joni! I then thought Joni had hired Lindsay to sit front row centre to put Rickie off her set! But it wasn't the case. I recognised her from the television on film. Notable she was in 'City Hall' with Al Pacino, playing his wife. Maybe for the middle period Joni I would choose...The woman from Thelma and Louise who isn't Susan Sarandon ( I hate not remembering actors' names. I do it so often, more annoying when they're on the tip of my tongue) Much Joni Jamie Zoob - ----- Original Message ----- From: Nuriel Tobias To: Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 9:22 AM Subject: And the Oscar goes to JMDL > Hello everyone, > > Let's say you were a big movie director and you had all the budget in the world to make the first "The lives and loves of Joni" movie for the big screen. Who would you choose to play Joni? And the other leading roles? If you got Joni to play a part in your film (not as herself) what would it be? What location would you choose? How would you name your film? What would be the first scene and the last one? > > Yours, > Nuri > > > _____________________________________________________________ > Free email, web pages, news, entertainment, weather and MORE! > Check out -------------------------------> http://wowmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 11:24:53 +0100 From: "Jamie Zubairi" Subject: Hobbit Names This might be of vague interest to Jonilistas. With her interest in JRR Tolkien's novels, someone has set about making a website for a Hobbit Name Generator. I must say I prefer the Joni Method of naming names Much Joni Jamie Zoob I don't know whether or not any of you have ever read The Hobbit, but even if you haven't you, like all of us, have a hobbit name. Go here to find out what yours is: http://www.chriswetherell.com/hobbit/ Henceforward, if any of you continue to get pissed off with the leadership of our great party, just remember who they REALLY are. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 06:28:48 -0400 From: "Deb Messling" Subject: Globe and Mail article Sorry if this is old news, but I didn't see it. Wonder, joy and magic Robert Everett-Green Joni Mitchell At the Liberty Grand in Toronto on Friday Joni Mitchell is famous for looking at clouds, and for deciding that "it's clouds' illusions I recall/ I really don't know clouds at all." But it was still a bit startling to discover, during her appearance at the World Leaders festival, that the creator of Both Sides Now and so many other distinctive songs really does look for the secrets of the world in the shapes of clouds and in portents and magic of all kinds. "I have a lot of voodoo following me around, whether I like it or not," Mitchell assured the prosperous-looking audience that had paid up to $175 to dine and bask in her presence. She spoke at length about black, white and red magic, about her discovery that a Nigerian religion she'd never heard of was seriously affecting her life, and about how the island of Jamaica once stopped her from singing or writing and forced her to paint murals. She talked of how on Sept. 11 she sat in front of her TV, snapping photo after photo of the smoke billowing from the World Trade Centre, and of all the shapes she found in those clouds of destruction. Teddy bears, demonic figures, Arab heads in turbans, ravens flying up -- it was all there, and further proof of the mystic psychedelic coherence of the world Mitchell lives in. She has sent dispatches from that world for more than 35 years, building a body of work that's been one of the most inventive and unpredictable in popular music. Nobody who heard Big Yellow Taxi on the car radio in the early seventies could have predicted that the giddy-sounding singer of that frisky hit would have driven so many roads by now. Mitchell began as a folkie, quickly burst the usual harmonic and prosodic boundaries of pop music, and kept on going till she was skirting the horizon with jazz musicians such as Charles Mingus and Herbie Hancock. She made the short forms of the pop lyric her vehicles for a lifelong exploration of the strange realities behind the ordinary face of things. Mitchell in conversation came across as an earthy visionary for whom real magic always leaves a physical trace. Perhaps lots of people have felt some occult truth in the way a candle burns as the air swirls up to a window from the dusty street below, but only Mitchell found a way to ground that particular magic in a precise string of words and harmonies (in Two Grey Rooms, one of two Mitchell songs performed on Friday with terrific probing skill by Rebecca Jenkins). She's a painter, and a lot of her chatter had to do with images and the truth of metaphor. But she's also a storyteller who needs to link those images into narrative. "A lot of my songs are frustrated filmmaking," she said. "They're attempts to tell a cinematic tale." Harbourfront Centre's homage -- or "hommage," as they preciously preferred to call it -- went back to the baby pictures and forward to clips from films and TV shows that have name-checked Mitchell, usually in ways that enforce the notion that her music is "chick music." There were live or taped tributes from Gordon Lightfoot, Hancock and Anjelica Houston, and lots of laudatory speeches written by Barbara Budd and spoken by Jenkins, Brent Carver and Ann-Marie MacDonald. There were performances of her songs by Jenkins and Carver, and by a mongrelized ensemble of piano, cello and Indonesian gamelan instruments. And there was much laboured wrestling with the notion of "creative genius," which -- as at previous World Leaders sessions -- revealed itself to be less a spark for discussion about exemplary artistic work than a way of short-circuiting that discussion. The most revealing part of the evening, apart from Mitchell's funny, nutty chat with Sony Music's Denise Donlon, was Mitchell's performance at the piano and with a set of working tapes for her next album. She improvised at the keyboard for several minutes, producing a quiet chordal jam that bridged the musical worlds of Stephen Foster and Claude Debussy. Then she sang fragments of seven songs from the new disc, including old tunes such as No Regrets Coyote and Cherokee Louise, and new ones such as Be Cool and Slouching Towards Bethlehem, based on her adaptation of the W. B. Yeats poem. Mitchell's unique timing was there, as always, working now through a voice that has smoothly darkened and deepened with the years. The orchestral arrangements -- after last year's Both Sides Now album, she's "addicted" to working with full orchestra -- belonged to the further edge of the pan-tonal jazz universe. As she sang, they became more and more clusteral, drifting in tangled figurations (some devised by long-time collaborator and ex-husband Larry Klein) that refused any clear resolution. There was innocence in these songs ("Yesterday a child came out to wonder") and bitterness as well, notably in a dreamy come-down song that stuck pins in every feature of her star's life, including the "people who have slices of you from the company . . . I guess I seem ungrateful with my teeth sunk in the hand that gives me things I can't give up just yet." But there's still a lot of wonder and joy in Joni Mitchell, as we saw when she caught sight of Arthur Kratzman, her Grade 7 teacher from Saskatoon, whom she routinely credits with opening the door for her early creative efforts. She and he were equally lucky, and equally thrilled to be in each other's company again, as he tried to give Mitchell the Harbourfront World Leaders prize through her many and long recollections of those days in the Prairie school. Forget about genius -- this was an oven-warm slice of real life. For information on the World Leaders Festival: http://www.worldleadersfestival.com. For tickets call: 416-973-4000. - ----------------------------------- Deb Messling =^..^= - ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 06:53:01 -0400 From: "Deb Messling" Subject: Santeria? Okay, is Joni talking about Santeria here, in the references to Voodoo and a Nigerian religion? > "I have a lot of voodoo following me around, whether I like it or not," > She spoke at length about black, white and red magic, about her discovery > that a Nigerian religion she'd never heard of was seriously affecting her > life, and about how the island of Jamaica once stopped her from singing or > writing and forced her to paint murals. See the following link for information on Santeria: http://www.religioustolerance.org/santeri.htm - ----------------------------------- Deb Messling =^..^= - ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 04:00:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: Re: Hobbit Names The Hobbit name i got for Joni mitchell is - Lily Hamwich Of Buckleberry Fern - --- "Jamie Zubairi" > wrote: >This might be of vague interest to Jonilistas. > >With her interest in JRR Tolkien's novels, someone has set about making a >website for a Hobbit Name Generator. > >I must say I prefer the Joni Method of naming names > >Much Joni > > >Jamie Zoob > > >I don't know whether or not any of you have ever read The Hobbit, but even >if you haven't >you, like all of us, have a hobbit name. Go here to find out what yours is: > > http://www.chriswetherell.com/hobbit/ > > Henceforward, if any of you continue to get pissed off with the leadership > of our great party, just remember who they REALLY are. _____________________________________________________________ Free email, web pages, news, entertainment, weather and MORE! Check out -------------------------------> http://wowmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 11:52:00 -0400 From: Anne Sandstrom Subject: RE: Shadows and Light The Definitive Biography IT'S HERE!!!! I just got the biography. I can't possibly thank you enough, Paul! I just flipped to the photos - I love the one with the painting of the Gap ad. And I love how Karen titled the chapters - very appropriate! So, I'm off to start reading. THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! lots of love Anne ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 12:03:24 -0400 From: "Janine Sherman" Subject: Toronto events Dear jmdlers, I promise to report on my thrilling experience when my feet touch the ground. Ashara has reported so swifty with such breadth, Mags with such interpretation and poise, and Jimmy with his sharp wit (I would have collasped and knocked her over had it not been for those two gorgeous, warm guys holding me up.) I will share my perspective tinged with the emotions from which I am still reeling....soon, very soon. Thanks Rick and Jimmy for being there when I needed two guys just like you!!! ( and for putting up with my off -key- albeit -soft singing along!) Love, Janine - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 09:11:40 -0700 From: jan Subject: Re: And the Oscar goes to JMDL >Let's say you were a big movie director and you had all the budget in the world to make the first "The lives and loves of Joni" movie for the big screen. Who would you choose to play Joni? And the other leading roles? If you got Joni to play a part in your film (not as herself) what would it be? What location would you choose? How would you name your film? What would be the first scene and the last one? >Nuri Actresses I'd consider: 1. Roseanna Arquette 2. Molly Parker 3. Deborah Unger 4. Lisa Kudrow (if a comedy) - -jan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 12:39:56 -0500 From: "Sharon L. Buffington" Subject: (no subject) Joni is on Bravo...as I write this.. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 13:57:53 EDT From: Relayer211@aol.com Subject: Re: Shadows and Light The Definitive Biography In a message dated 10/23/01 11:58:21 AM Eastern Daylight Time, asandstrom@macromedia.com writes: << IT'S HERE!!!! I just got the biography. I can't possibly thank you enough, Paul! I just flipped to the photos - I love the one with the painting of the Gap ad. And I love how Karen titled the chapters - very appropriate! So, I'm off to start reading. THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! lots of love Anne >> I will pay you the sum total of $1,000,000 for a copy of that book through the mail, as soon as possible! Thanks! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 14:11:18 EDT From: AsharaJM@aol.com Subject: Re: Shadows and Light The Definitive Biography In a message dated 10/23/2001 2:00:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Relayer211@aol.com writes: > I will pay you the sum total of $1,000,000 for a copy of that book through > the mail, as soon as possible! Thanks! > In my best Dr. Evil voice: One meeeeeeeeeeeeeelion dollars???????? I will put mine in the overnight mail right NOW!!!!!!!!!!! :-) Hugs, Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 14:17:49 EDT From: KJHSF@aol.com Subject: Re: And the Oscar goes to JMDL Who could play Joni? Renee Zelwiger, Gwyneth Paltrow, Jodie Foster ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 12:29:59 -0700 From: "Brenda J. Walker" Subject: Radio Paradise & Joni Joni gets some love from these guys and their audience.... Check this out: http://www.radioparadise.com/index.php3?song_id=1621 You can do an artist search under Music and it find all of the Joni songs which they've played in the past. I was surprised to see "Passion Play" there. B n.p.: Patti Smith - "Dancing Barefoot" On 23 Oct 2001, at 15:07, SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: > <> > > And NO Joni in the last six hours? What kinda paradise is that? ;~) > > Seriously, looks like an eclectic mix, I'll check 'em out, Brenda. > > Bob > > NP: Neil Norman, "The Perfect Wave" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 15:52:38 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Radio Paradise & Joni The link you gave me was to listener's comments about Coyote, but that was cool. I did a search on Joni and saw their playlist for her. A bit disappointed that "Passion Play" & "Nothing Can Be Done" were the only post-70's songs listed. Permeates the myth of Joni being only a "classic rock-era" artist. :~( And if you look at the individual songs, you get listener's comments...I got a chuckle from what this guy said about "Scarlett"... "getting a little tired of all the Joni lately...and this seems to be quite a forgettable song to me..."AM gold" here we go. " Of course, the next comment was very complimentary and compared it to a Donald Fagen melody. I still can't picture the Dan singing Carey... Bob NP: Jon & The Nightriders, "Depth Charge 95" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 16:36:09 EDT From: FredNow@aol.com Subject: Re: And the Oscar goes to JMDL Nuriel Tobias wrote: >If you got Joni to play a part in your film (not as herself) what would >it be? I'd have to think about the other parts, but this one popped right into my head: Joni would play Georgia O'Keefe - -Fred ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 21:36:34 +0100 From: "Paul Castle" Subject: Re: Shadows and Light The Definitive Biography Relayer211@aol.com wrote: > I will pay you the sum total of $1,000,000 for a copy of that book through > the mail, as soon as possible! Thanks! > Ashara AsharaJM@aol.com beat me to it > In my best Dr. Evil voice: One meeeeeeeeeeeeeelion dollars???????? I will > put mine in the overnight mail right NOW!!!!!!!!!!! :-) OK, I can do you a copy of the new edition of the Hinton biography for a once-in-a-life-time-knock-down bargain price - I'm not asking $750,000 - I'm not asking $500,000 - 100,000 smackeroonies and it's yours!!!! PaulC PS. If you need more convincing, here's a couple of the enthusiastic 'reader reviews' of Hinton's 'Both Sides Now' on Amazon.com - see http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/stores/detail/-/books/1860741606/glance/002 - -7211564-5880040 (surprisingly, neither of these are quoted on the jacket of the new edition!) >10 of 10 people found the following review helpful: >Both sides together!, August 13, 2000 >Reviewer: MR R J KNOTT from Hemel Hempstead, Herts United Kingdom >Being a long-time fan of Joni, I approached this book with interest >but quickly realised I should adopt caution. Not only was it constantly >repetitive... (yes, you just told us the opening song of the tour gigs two >pages ago!)... but it was full of contradictions: so who WAS Carly >Simon's "You're so vain" written about? Most embarrassing of all was >the author's misunderstanding of the American term "suspenders" >(the British equivalent is "braces" - i.e. elastic supports for men's >trousers (pants)).. and thus wrongly accused James Taylor of being >a cross-dresser! And as for the 1996 report that Joni gave birth at the >age of 52 in 1996.... really? >23 of 23 people found the following review helpful: >Perhaps Hinton should play Mitchell's 'Help Me'., January 28, 1999 >Reviewer: rdale@erisco.imshealth.com from New York , NY >It's ironic (and perhaps moronic) that Hinton should choose none >other than Joni Mitchell as a subject for a biography. Not only is >Mitchell one of the most gifted and literate songwriters of the 20th >Century, she is also one of the most iconoclastic, as well...shunning >publicity that most 'rock stars' consume with a spoon. And its these >circumstances which point out the failings in this dismal read: Hinton >can't write and what he has written are quotes of Mitchell herself when >she has deigned to submit to personal interviews. It's appalling that >the publisher went ahead with such a shoddy and thoroughly >uninformative book about one of the great pop icons of our century. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 17:17:20 EDT From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: on a lighter note. . . (SortaJC) There was talk here and there on the list over the past couple of months about John Kelly performing a new salute to Joni "Shiny Hot Nights" in NYC in October. Has that happened yet? Did anyone from the list see his performance? Thanks, --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 17:57:25 EDT From: Gertus@aol.com Subject: Joni and Incredible String Band Hi Paul, I seem to remember you asking recently for information about Joni touring with ICB. I came across this paragraph in an article about the ICB in Mojo Aug 2000 issue:- "In fact, the String Band and the ridiculousness of rock culture were about to collide in the most spectacular fashion. Before their manager, Joe Boyd, booked them to play "a little up-state folk festival" in the New York area, they'd had a degree of success in the States. Admittedly, Robin tripped over the power cable at Big Sur Festival and the entire show ground to a halt, but they'd ended up afterwards in a hot spring in the rocks with Joni Mitchell and David Crosby, all of them "pink as shrimp" and singing Swing Low Sweet Chariot." Changing the subject, I went to the annual rally of the BMG Federation on Sunday - the most old-fashioned gathering of amateur musicians you could find. My friend and I won the duet category so are feeling chuffed especially as one of the judges, and later performers, was Simon Mayor. Very cool! Jacky ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 15:31:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Susan Guzzi Subject: Re: And the Oscar goes to JMDL Ken wrote: Who could play Joni? Renee Zelwiger, Gwyneth Paltrow, Jodie Foster I must admit pretty nice selection. However, my first thought was not to consider Gwyneth Paltrow. Especially some of her recent choices and especially this latest one. I think it is insulting to women and women of size. I did not even think of Jodie because I felt a bit constrained with age and which Joni era we were going to play to. As you can see I didn't take this challenge too serious - aye Nuriel? So assuming a younger actress but not too young - my choices would be ... 1. Angelina Jolie 2. Hillary Swank 3. Cate Blanchett and beside Jodie Foster if you're looking over 35 how about Jessica Lang - ooh baby! She sure didn't hurt Patsy Cline any! As far as other stars playing people in Joni 's life still working on that Couldn't Joni play her own mother after all she says to Sharon "we look like our mother's did back when we were those kids age." This is fun thanks Nuriel! peace Susan Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 18:11:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: Re: And the Oscar goes to JMDL Hello friends, Jessica could make a great Joni if "our" movie was about an insane bitchy nervous wreck which is 100% fine with me:) "Friends"'s Lisa could make a VERY FUNNY Joni and as you know there's no such thing. (Just kidding. I think Joni is a VERY FUNNY woman) Joni playing her own mother is AMAZING! I'm still drying my tears! Susan, you are a riot! Larry Klein's role, anyone? How about...Burt Reynolds? LOL! And Crossby could play Van Gogh! (How can anyone forget his heartbreaking role in Roseanne?) I think reviving Joni's songs as scenes in the movie could make it a trip. The movie's tytle...? mmmm...Blonde in the bleachers. - --- Susan Guzzi > wrote: >Ken wrote: >Who could play Joni? >Renee Zelwiger, Gwyneth Paltrow, Jodie Foster > >I must admit pretty nice selection. However, my first >thought was not to consider Gwyneth Paltrow. >Especially some of her recent choices and especially >this latest one. I think it is insulting to women and >women of size. > >I did not even think of Jodie because I felt a bit >constrained with age and which Joni era we were going >to play to. As you can see I didn't take this >challenge too serious - aye Nuriel? > >So assuming a younger actress but not too young - my >choices would be ... >1. Angelina Jolie > >2. Hillary Swank > >3. Cate Blanchett > >and beside Jodie Foster if you're looking over 35 how >about Jessica Lang - ooh baby! She sure didn't hurt >Patsy Cline any! > >As far as other stars >playing people in Joni 's life >still working on that > >Couldn't Joni play her own mother after all she says >to Sharon "we look like our mother's did back when we >were those kids age." > >This is fun thanks Nuriel! > >peace >Susan >Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. >http://personals.yahoo.com _____________________________________________________________ Free email, web pages, news, entertainment, weather and MORE! Check out -------------------------------> http://wowmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 21:31:33 EDT From: TimandMaryPowers@aol.com Subject: Re: And the Oscar goes to JMDL In a message dated 10/23/01 6:13:00 PM, nuriel@wowmail.com writes: >The movie's tytle...? mmmm...Blonde in the bleachers. no, no, no! that title implies Joni is a spectator in her own life! Trouble Child or Turbulent Indigo. or my favorite, hejira, though that's a bit obscure for the poor non-Joni fans mary People hurry by so quickly Don't they hear the melodies In the chiming and the clicking And the laughing harmonies - - Joni Mitchell ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 21:50:48 -0400 From: "Sue Cameron" Subject: "Get Over It" In this teen flick there is the funniest Joni reference since, well, ever! The name of the film is Get Over It. The plot summary is there's only one way to win back his girlfriend, and it involves a musical version of Shakespeare. So, one of the main characters is this young lady who composes and sings her own songs. She volunteers to help the main character study for his audition. The ditsy girl, commenting on her friend's talent, says "She could be the next Josie Mitchell" to which the songwriter replies "That's JONI Mitchell". I recommend those listers who have teens to rent and watch this movie with their kids. It is fun and well written....one of my favorite lines other than the Joni mention is "Hey, how did that lobotomy go?". Looking forward to using that one tomorrow! Sue ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 15:02:28 +1300 From: "hell" Subject: Re: And the Oscar goes to JMDL Nuriel wrote: > "Friends"'s Lisa could make a VERY FUNNY Joni and as > you know there's no such thing. (Just kidding. I think Joni > is a VERY FUNNY woman) Personally I think Lisa Kudrow would make a very good SERIOUS Joni as well. She is a talented actress - comedy is not necessarily easier than drama. I have some doubts about her guitar-playing and singing ability (given what I've seen in Friends) - although after Neitchze's peeing efforts on Joni's paintings, maybe "Smelly Cat" is appropriate! Hell ____________________________ "To have great poets, there must be great audiences too." - Walt Whitman hell@ihug.co.nz Hell's Personal Photo Page: http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hell/main/personal.htm Visit the NBLs (Natural Born Losers) at: http://www.nbls.co.nz ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 22:45:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: "Get Over It" - --- Sue Cameron wrote: > In this teen flick there is the funniest > Joni reference since, well, ever! > > The name of the film is Get Over It. > The plot summary is there's only one > way to win back his girlfriend, > and it involves a musical version of Shakespeare. > > So, one of the main characters is this young lady > who composes and sings her own songs. She > volunteers > to help the main character study for his audition. > The ditsy girl, commenting on her friend's talent, > says "She could be the next Josie Mitchell" to which > the songwriter replies "That's JONI Mitchell". > Saw that with my daughter a few weeks ago on video. Found most of the story a bit boring, perked up at the Shakespeare scenes they were doing (quite funny!); really perked up at the "Joni Mitchell" mention and didn't the songwriter-girl character have a poster of Laura Nyro on her wall? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 00:09:21 -0400 From: dsk Subject: Re: on a lighter note. . . (SortaJC) Hi Bob, John Kelly's at Fez five Saturday nights starting October 20. No word yet from anyone who's seen him and I haven't seen any articles in any of the papers either. I'll keep a lookout for reviews. Tentative plans are in the works to see him sometime in November, so there will probably be a report about it then. Debra Shea Murphycopy@aol.com wrote: > > There was talk here and there on the list over the past couple of months > about John Kelly performing a new salute to Joni "Shiny Hot Nights" in NYC in > October. Has that happened yet? Did anyone from the list see his performance? > > Thanks, > > --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 21:29:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Gross Subject: October 24 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IT'S MAGS' BIRTHDAY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssss She is the love of my life and today I would like her to know just how special she is to me and to all of us. Happy Birthday Sweetie love, Brei xoxox ===== After twenty-three years you'd think I could find A way to let you know somehow That I want to see your smiling face Forty-five years from now. --Stan Rogers Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 01:14:25 EDT From: Coyote4Joni@aol.com Subject: Re: And the Oscar goes to JMDL In a message dated 10/23/01 3:32:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time, groovchacha@yahoo.com writes: << Couldn't Joni play her own mother after all she says to Sharon "we look like our mother's did back when we were those kids age." >> I vote for Joni playing herself. It would be much better than that whacked out idea she had about playing herself in Northern Exposure (or was it Twin Peaks?). With the right camera angles and lighting she can still pull of a mean Joni of yesteryear. After all, I just heard (definitely) off record that Diana Ross is playing herself in a HBO Diana Ross biopic. Hope it's more successful than the Return To Love tour! No regrets, Coyote Rick Casa Alegre Hollywood, California ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 01:25:40 EDT From: Coyote4Joni@aol.com Subject: Re: October 24 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HAPPY BIRTHDAY MAGS! It was a treat to meet you in Toronto! You too Brian - if ever so briefly! No regrets, Coyote Rick Casa Alegre Hollywood, California ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 01:39:27 -0400 From: "Stephen Epstein" Subject: Toronto Tribute Hi all! I am still reeling a bit from the events of last weekend- wonderful, surreal, magical- a night I will never forget! Firstly, let me talk about the "unveiling" of Joni's "star". I had second thoughts about attending this event- having just met Joni a few weeks ago with Kakki, I was concerned about her perhaps recognizing me and thinking I might be a stalker! But, of course, I went, and glad I did! There were barricades around and behind the seating area for family, friends, and dignitaries- but we were still pretty close. Ashara, Sal and I were there 3/4's of an hour beforehand, so we were right up against the barricade- great view. The details of the ceremony have been posted already by others. There were probably not more than 200 people there- thought there might have been more. And we were all there! Jimmy, Coyote Rick, Janine, Lisa, Yael, Jim Johanson- so great that you were there Jim! Quite a meeting of family it was. Lots of hugs! Joni and Margaret Atwood arrive after the family and friends were seated. Larry Klein, Kilauren, her two children, her biological father, director Norman Jewison and David Cronenberg, the mayor of Toronto, Ed Mirvish who owns the Royal Alexander Theatre where this was held- and a HUGE patron of the arts in Toronto for decades....... many more- most I didn't recognize, Jimmy and Rick pointed out that a couple of singers from the musical tribute a few nights before were there. Joni looked fabulous! A floor-length dress in plaids of blue, green, brown, with a jacket overtop and a black beret! Too cool! She spoke so eloquently, as has been reported. Her comments about people stepping over her star and stopping for a moment of pause, were lovely. Don't let your dog shit there, and don't spit on it! LOL! She is too brilliantly funny. Think about someone you love. How sweet! Later in the day, Ashara, Sal, Jim and I taxied to the venue. It took some time to find the right place! And poor Jim realised he had left his ticket in his hotel room! ACK! He returned a while later, so cool, calm and collected! The venue was wonderful. A beautiful renovation of a huge building that had been vacant for years. Tastefully done. We were shown around the venue, and given instructions on the do's and dont's in terms of photography, etc. The doors were opened and in we went to the cocktail reception. Martini's provided by Absolute, no charge. Finger food on trays walking around. I was at one point, out in the courtyard having a smoke with my friend Barbara, and all of a sudden Joni is walking towards us with her entourage. We had to move out of the way to let her pass. I must say the security was extremely well handled. Ushered in, ushered out, no pics during dinner- I'm sure the same level as was provided for all other honorees at this tribute. JOni made a short appearance at the cocktail reception and then was ushered out the back door. Shortly thereafter, I run into the Russian! Mr. Klein. I ask for a couple of pics, which he obliged. He is tall! Man! I would think at least 6'3" as I had to tilt the lens upwards. He seemed out of sorts, and I asked if he was looking for Joni. Of course he was, and I directed him towards the door she left thru. My personal hunch- he and Joni will get back together! Dinner was fabulous, as so nicely posted by Ashara. The actual theatre venue was extraordinarily unique. A long narrow room- maybe 300 feet long. A thin but lengthy stage in the middle that went from one wall to about 4 feet from the other. Seats on the floor either side, and then rising seats behind. The stage was beautiful. A piano, and a long length of Chinese golden bells and such. Two German designed chairs in white mesh were at the other end of the stage, with a small table between, and on it a Boise player and 2 speakers. All that proceeded Joni's appearance has been well posted by Mags and Ashara. This Rebecca Jenkins has an incredible voice. She is an actor by trade, but what a singer! Her version of Blue had Joni standing and giving her a solo standing ovation! And then she sang a version of Two Grey Rooms that had many of us in tears. Brent Carver, as well, an actor- Shakespearean- sang a number of Joni's tunes. Joni arrived on-stage and looking and feeling radiant! I truly believe this event affected her. As has been posted, this was VERY much a family reconvening for her! Well, Denise Donlan from Sony Records, played the interviewer role. But we all know, all one needs to do is just ask Joni that one correct question, and she will talk! Denise is the wife of Murray McGlaughlin, a Canadian folksinger of the Bruce Cockburn era. She was good, but I felt a bit too rehearsed contrasted with Joni's openess and free form conversation. Talk about repetism! Many of the things she and Kakki and I talked about a few weeks ago were chatted about- break-up w/Donald, the events of Sept 11th and how she was affected, painting...... The audience was enraptured, self included! Then she gets up and goes to the piano!!! I thought I had died and gone to the other world! Very Paprika Plains-ish- no singing, just wonderful improvisation. Following, she played the demos from the upcoming album by the London Symphony and sang along. What an absolute incredible treat! She said she was practicing! And, indeed, it felt, from my first row seat, as if we were in someones living room and Joni serenading us! Absolutely remarkable! There has been much comment on this list of Joni's failing voice- BSN was not a thrilling album for some of us. Let me tell you, her voice is in incredible shape! Truly wonderful. I cannot tell you in words, how wonderful it was to hear Circle Game, Cherokee Louise and all the rest, in their new form. This upcoming release can only be incredible- please trust me on this! She is at the top of her game! Perhaps the crowning glory of the evening was having Mr. Kratzman arrive onstage. Big hugs between the two of them. He is a gentleman, articulate, loving and kind and far younger looking that I thought was possible! Joni was in tears, as was most of the audience. It was a loving tribute from him, to her! The next afternoon, Saturday, Ashara, Sal, Mags, Brian, Jim, Steve and I were walking along Queen ST. West- Toronto's funkiest area. A guy comes up to us and says, Hey, I recognise you, you were at the Tribute last night! He is a young lawyer from Conn. Found out about the tribute from jonimitchell.com! Decided he had to come! It was brilliant! He was so in awe of the night before, and that he had just met a group of like-minded people! He had a personal moment w/Joni @ the tribute and shared with us. Needless to say, we encouraged him to join the JMDL- he was thrilled to meet our webmaster Jim! I was happy to see that we had made another convert! He was a wild young guy, full of energy. Lots of hugs between us all- someone we just met, but felt at home with. That's how this list is wonderful. Best Stephen in Vancouver NP: Simon and Garfunkle- live @ Hollywood Bowl, 1968- thanks Kakki!! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 02:07:54 -0400 From: "Stephen Epstein" Subject: October 24th!! My dearest Mags! Today is your birthday. A very special day, as you entered into life- our lives! You are an amazing wonderful woman, and I am so honored to have you as a sister and friend. You give so much from the heart. And your calming presence has a wonderful influence on this list and all it's members. Do enjoy your special day, and I trust it will be one! I am happy for you that you can spend it with Brian. Have fun, relax and enjoy! Love you, Stephen in Vancouver ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 02:13:08 EDT From: Coyote4Joni@aol.com Subject: A Few Notes From the Harbourfront Hommage My gosh. Giant happy thanks to our own JJ at JM.com, Ashara, Jimmy, and Mags for their eloquent posts and JM.com entries about the Hommage. You guys did a great job in giving the list the details and your personal experiences. I am still waiting for the rest of you! Okay, Brian, Stephen, Steve (and you gorgeous lurker you, Julius) -- fess up! In terms of my experience, I have a few smallish items to report. No one mentioned Joni saying she was working on her book! Did I imagine this or did I hear this right? Maybe that's why Karen's book in unauthorized? (Note: My copy was awaiting me on my return). Maybe someone who has a permanent recollection (I am certain someone out there has one of these?) of the Hommage can do some research. I swear I heard her say she was working on her book. Please someone assure me I am not going crazy (El Coyote feeling somewhat insecure after his earlier inaccurate Teena Marie post -- especially in this group of experts). I also just have to mention my new girlfriend, Janine Sherman. She sat right next to me -- right behind Joni (I was behind Klein). This poor girl (yeah, right!) was so moved by our whole experience it warmed me to the depths of my soul. Yeah, Janine, so you sang a little, but you can hold my hand anyday, anywhere. You looked so pretty inside and all dressed up, making my Joni experience even more exciting. You gotta tell people that you have Joni's sticker! Now, about Ms. Mitchell. As I have told my non-Joni friends and family, Friday night was like being in her living room. The way she fiddled with the BoomBox, looked to Klein for help (and I was right in eye shot of that), and sang from her soul. This was totally unrehearsed Joni magic. Someone (maybe my sistah, Jimmy) said it must have been like being at PWWAM, I would have to argue it may have been even better. This was Joni unplugged - Joni creating. Kakki has often mentioned the Cafe Les Deux here in Hollywood. I hear Joni liked to try out new material on the cafe's intimate audience. Never saw it happen and I live two miles away. Well, folks, to me, that's what we saw and heard, and I traveled thousands of miles to see it. Regrets? You gotta be kidding. For a guy that came on late to following her career this closely, I can say it was the experience of a lifetime for a Joni fan. And she sang my song. No regrets, Coyote Rick Casa Alegre Hollywood, California ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 23:03:03 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: October 24th!! Happiest of birthdays dear Mags!!! Love, Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 02:14:44 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: October 24 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Happy Birthday Mags!!!!! rosemjoy@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 23:09:03 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Toronto Tribute What a sweet report, Stephen! I'm just so happy for all of you who could be at such an incredible event! Maybe it's good I didn't go - I probably would have been loudly hyperventilating when she took to the piano and started up the bit of Paprika Plains! I was surprised that my mother had remembered the event was coming up and called me for a full report on Saturday. She started choking up when I told her the story of Mr. Kratzman. It sounds like you all had such a stunning time. These Joni events always seem to be unfailingly incredible and fantastic for the jmdlers. Oh, and did she say anything about Coco?? ;-) Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 03:46:03 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: October 24 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! happy birthday magsie!!!!! wah ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #331 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?