From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #326 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Saturday, October 20 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 326 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Doctor's pills give you brand new ills (SJC) [colin ] RE: JMDL Digest V2001 #496 ["Kate Bennett" ] Inno di Mameli [] Subject to Interpretation ["Mike Pritchard" ] Joni Potpourri ["J. R. Mills" ] Re: Subject: Anne's CD [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: My personal setlist (wishlist) for the upcoming orchestral Project. [] Re: was JM Biography, now Covers Collection and Jonifest [SCJoniGuy@aol.c] The Tribute to Joni ( Thursday night lecture) [FMYFL@aol.com] Joni in VF [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: The Tribute to Joni ( Thursday night lecture) [RoseMJoy@aol.com] Re: Joni in VF [RoseMJoy@aol.com] Re: The Tribute to Joni ( Thursday night lecture) [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Anne's CD [colin ] Re: Joni in VF [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] RE: Doctor's pills give you brand new ills (SJC) ["Donna J. Binkley" ] conan ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: Subject: Joni in VF [jan ] re: My personal setlist (wishlist) for the upcoming orchestral Project. [] Re: Doctor's pills give you brand new ills (SJC) ["Dolphie Bush" ] Re: oops [JRMCo1@aol.com] Re: embarrassed fans ["Dolphie Bush" ] Shadows & Light in Toronto [James Leahy ] Re: oops [IVPAUL42@aol.com] Re: Picture of Joni at the Walk of Fame ["Kakki" ] a place where you don't spit [Murphycopy@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 09:10:25 +0100 From: colin Subject: Re: Doctor's pills give you brand new ills (SJC) Hi Sherelle-good for you! I too would rather deal with my ups and downs myself and I do, fairly well. Okay, I am lucky in that my highs no longer send me crazy crazy. And my lows are no longer so dark as to incite suicide. Years of therapy paid off. Although I am hugely disappointed that the damned illness is still with me, it is now no where near as extreme. So the therpay did work-cleared awya the shit I wa scarrying, mostly, and thus I don;t have that added burden to fuel the mood swings. Unfortunately, you are right about other's attitudes. At best they are patronising and never see you as a real whole person. in discussions one is never taken seriously. For if you disagree with someone, it's 'well, he isn;t quite right is he?' At worst it is downright discrimination. Mental illness is still hugely discrimainated against, and acceptably so in our societies. Fear being the rooot of course. It doesn't help that tv and film often portray us as dangerous! Although i would have preferred not to have this thing, it has taught me much and it has enhanced my world view and my understanding of people. I tend to see things differently. yes, this sets me at odds with others but that is their problem. my different view shakes their world and they don't like it. The same can be said of my world of abuse when a child-yes I would rather not have had that-it would be great to have a family and a loving one at that. But that wasn't to be. It too has brought me much opportunity and I wouldn't be who I am today if I hadn't experienced all I have. However, I do not think any of this 'meant to be'. It just was and there was nothing I could about it. The worst aspect of it all, which still affects me today, is the doubting of my own thinking. I was always told that black was white or white was black or that my thoughts and doubts and questions were Satan's way of leading me astray, that it was Satan who put those thoughts in my mind.Thus I spent most of my life afraid and in excruiating doubt. I could not trust my own thinking, my own perceptions. Thus I was easily abused outside of the family as well. So people were able to do really bad things and I wouldn't see that and just think I was bad and it was my fault, I deserved it. I was lucky in that wehn I met my therapist my wal came tumbling down immediately-I trusted him straight away. Thru this trust of him I was able to start to trust myself. It did have it's drawbacks! For the first time in my life I felt rage, real anger, because now I knew what had been done to me and that it wasn't my fault! That was very hard to deal with. I also beagn to feel all sorts of other things, feelings I had long ago buried. I had learned as achild to 'shut down' and not feel anything. Thus when i wa sbeing hurt, I gave no reaction and felt nothing. unfortuantely those feelings stay with you and have to be felt one day. That day came for me and it was the most teryfying time of my life. Even today, I sometimes wish I could 'shut down' but I have leanred other methods of dealing with feelings. One thing I still do tho is 'disassociate'. i.e in situations I find diffiuclt, I go into a dream like state, shut down completely. Soemtimes this is okay but at other times it isn't because it leaves me exposed to danger and unable to defend myself. It does make me good in situations where others panic tho! The major side effect of feeling th bad stuff is I get to feel the good stuff too! bw colin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 01:25:38 -0700 From: "J. R. Mills" Subject: Re: JM Biography I haven't received my copy yet, even though Amazon.uk say it was "dispatched on October 10, 2001 via Royal mail." I wonder what's up with that? I hope I don't read the book in its entirety through excerpts here on the JMDL before I get my copy. I guess I'll busy myself reading the autobiography of Quincy Delightt Jones, _Q_, whilst I wait. Oooh, Diana Krall just came on "Late Night with Conan O'Brien." She's doing "I Cried a River for You." Sweet! Gotta Go. Bye. - -Julius ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 01:34:55 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE: JMDL Digest V2001 #496 Hell said, "Every time I read the drunken ramblings of Smurph, Alison, etc. I just about die laughing!" OMG, me too...i wrote about my first impression- claudia & all singing beautifully on the front porch (just like that photo)...well my last moment at ashara's was spent gasping for air as alison & smurph were composing their work...i laughed for days... ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics www.polysonics.com Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 11:35:37 +0200 From: Subject: Inno di Mameli Inno di MameliHallo Steve, I'll send you the words of italian anthem. = Angela invia un saluto agli amici americani della Joni-list. Fratelli d'Italia di Goffredo Mameli musica di Michele Novaro =20 Fratelli d'Italia, l'Italia s'=E8 desta, dell'elmo di Scipio s'=E8 cinta la testa. Dov'=E8 la vittoria? Le porga la chioma, che schiava di Roma Iddio la cre=F2. =20 Stringiamoci a coorte, siam pronti alla morte. Siam pronti alla morte, l'Italia chiam=F2. Stringiamoci a coorte, siam pronti alla morte. Siam pronti alla morte, l'Italia chiam=F2, s=EC! =20 Noi fummo da secoli calpesti, derisi, perch=E9 non siam popoli, perch=E9 siam divisi. Raccolgaci un'unica bandiera, una speme: di fonderci insieme gi=E0 l'ora suon=F2. =20 Uniamoci, uniamoci, l'unione e l'amore rivelano ai popoli le vie del Signore. Giuriamo far libero il suolo natio: uniti, per Dio, chi vincer ci pu=F2? Trascrizione a cura di: Luca Sambucci (Luca.Sambucci@student.unisg.ch)=20 Edizione HTML a cura di:=20 Riccardo.Scateni@crs4.it=20 Letteratura Italiana Home Page=20 [demime 0.97c removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of icon.gif] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 11:01:44 +0200 From: "Mike Pritchard" Subject: Subject to Interpretation This is sent in the spirit of adding information to something already mentioned. Not to agree with a viewpoint or statement, not to contest a viewpoint or statement, simply to add light. This remark goes for my interventions on other topics too. Of course there will be times when I offer my own opinions but this will not always be the case. Usually my point is to widen the debate without my personal viewpoint being important. I will expand on this later and especially in relation to Ireland. Bill said: >>The kingdom of Hawaii and her Queen were overthrown in 1893 and annexed to the United States in 1898, led by a small group consisting of businessmen and descendants of missionaries, mostly American, with the assistance of American troops.<< Here's a quote from the life of General Smedley D. Butler, cited in Eduardo Galeano's "Open Veins of Latin America", which in turn gives the source as Leo Huberman 'Man's Wordly Goods' (NY: Monthly Review Press, 1952, p.265) "I spent 33 years and 4 months in active service as a member of our country's most agile military force- the Marine Corps. I served in all commissioned ranks from a second lieutenant to major-general. And during that period I spent most of my time being a high-class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street, and for the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer for capitalism. Thus I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank to collect revenues in. and I helped purify Nicaragua for the international banking house of Brown Brothers in 1909-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for American sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Honduras 'right' for American fruit companies in 1903." mike ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 05:30:46 -0700 From: "J. R. Mills" Subject: Joni Potpourri Bon Voyage to all JMDLers traveling to Toronto, Canada (Oh Canada!) for the Harbourfront Joni Tribute! Like Cinderella, I wish I were going to the ball. Maybe someone will take video of Joni unveiling her star on the Canadian Walk of Fame (noon today, in front of the Royal Alexandra Theatre, 260 King St. W., Toronto) for those of us who aren't so blessed as to be able to be there. Photos, too, please. Plenty of Photos. :-) Here's a little hodge-podge of JC snippets from the media to snack on, gang: John Kelly will be doing his harolded Joni tribute at Fez in New York City this Saturday night: FEZ UNDER TIME CAFE. John Kelly's Shiny Hot Nights: More Songs of Joni Mitchell, VaVa Voom Room, late show, Saturday, 380 Lafayette St., NYC 212-533-2680. A funny from the Boston Globe re: the recent Vanity Fair cover picturing Joni among others: "It's always peculiar to see a dozen or so musicians from different eras and genres, most of them cover-worthy by themselves, all gathered together for the fold-out front of Vanity Fair's Music Issue. The star wattage is blinding, the posing is painfully precise, and you can't help but wonder about the long day of the shoot, with Beck mingling with Missy "Misdemeanor" Elliott while David Bowie makes sure the pancake reaches the bottom of his cleavage. You just know the chain-smoking Joni Mitchell flicked an ash or two at Jewel, one of the sort of early-Joni imitators whom she has so openly scorned. And standing on the sidelines would be Emmylou Harris, with her cowpoke jeans and her fabulous gray mane." From the Las Vegas Review-Journal review of a 10/14 James Taylor concert at Mandalay Bay Events Center, with content for Victor and colin: "There's been talk that Taylor's Las Vegas visit came at the end of his final tour. We'll see. He's only 53. Whatever the case, Taylor wiped his brow (was he crying or just sweating?) at the end of the night and said, 'Take care of yourselves and one another, and try to stay out of trouble.' That's good advice. Some of Taylor's friends and peers in the excellent 1970s genre of sensitive singer-songwriting have not always stayed that course. Carole King, who was the songwriting queen, has been gone too long, though she has a new Gap ad on TV. Carly Simon descended into making smarmy movie soundtrack songs that win Oscars. Nick Drake, the king of sorrow, killed himself after three albums, the bastard. Jim Croce, dead. Harry Chapin, dead. Cat Stevens, dead to the American scene. Judy Collins, who knows? Joni Mitchell, well, she was always too daring for this category, really." That's all, folks! Have a great weekend, everyone. Looking forward to reports from the North. - -Julius np: Clouds ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 09:20:00 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Subject: Anne's CD << Voice mail for Anne: 864-233-7584 >> Thanks, Jim...and if you've had difficulties, please try again. I've turned the phone ringer off for the next couple days, and will leave the recorder on, so feel free to call ANYTIME!! The phone won't ring and you won't wake anybody up... The real challenge will be to keep my son from turning the recorder off so he can play his computer games! :~) Bob NP: Loudon Wainwright III, "Housework" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 09:32:38 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: My personal setlist (wishlist) for the upcoming orchestral Project. << Judgement of the Moon andStars (Ludwig's Tune)>> Imo, she's already recorded THIS one with the proper orchestration! :~) << The Last Time I Saw Richard>> I think an orchestra would overpower the intimacy of this one. << Refuge of the Roads The Dawntreader Shadows and Light (With the Master Chorale) Impossible Dreamer Hejira Woodstock Cactus Tree Let the Wind Carry Me Love>> I'd love to hear ALL of these with some nice orchestral augmentation. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 09:36:51 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: was JM Biography, now Covers Collection and Jonifest << With 25+ CDs, there's one hundred people already! Any thoughts from anyone else? Bob? - it's your baby, after all! >> Well, I've got the labels covered...I LOVE the idea of the wood box to store them in. I would prefer to have 4-5 people work on the cover artwork, etc so there could be some consistency with the design and fonts, etc. But I'm open to suggestions. The good news is that the collection won't be "finalized" til summer of '02, so we have time to "tawk"! ;~) Bob NP: Harry Partch, "The Dreamer That Remains" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 09:44:46 EDT From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: The Tribute to Joni ( Thursday night lecture) Last night Coyote Rick and I attended the lecture on Joni's music given by Professor Bowman.( sorry I can't remember his first name) Mags also drove all the way from Hamilton to join us, which was quite a delight. Dr. Bowman did an excellent job of explaining the evolution of Joni's music. I wish I could have had a music appreciation teacher in college that was as interesting and enthusiastic as Dr. Bowman. He didn't tell us anything that most of us already knew regarding the musical periods of Joni's life. On the list we might discuss Joni's "electronic" or "pop" periods when someone starts a thread on one of Joni's albums. We can also go to Wally/Jim's page to learn a great deal about Joni's life. What was so wonderful about last night was that Dr. Bowman did this in 90 minutes using samples of all of her CD's. For example he would be talking how Joni would started using her voice as an instrument. He would play a few bars from "Car on a Hill" and point out where she would use this technique. Like I said, any diehard Joni fan would know all this, but it's great when you can discuss Joni's music in a "live" situation. It was a fascinating experience, and Dr. Bowman knows his Joni music!!! The lecture was followed by a 75 minute compilation of Joni videos and interviews. We had seen most of these before, but it was wonderful to view them on the big screen. It was another GREAT Joni evening. BTW, we found out that Tuesday night's performance of the "Tribute in Song" WAS recorded. The tape has to be sent to the participating artists, and I'm sure a lot of red tape is involved, but maybe one day we'll all get a chance to hear that wonderful evening. Time to get ready for the unveiling of "Joni's star" at noon. Hopefully we'll get some good photos. Wish us luck! Jimmy (and Coyote Rick) in Toronto...........I love the Canadians ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 09:53:30 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Joni in VF Thanks to Laura for posting the URL for that Joni pic! My issue arrived yesterday, and I enjoyed looking at while listening to a certain JMDL'er singing & playing the autoharp. A couple of notes: 1. GREAT pic of Tom Waits at his studio piano inside, and a nice Ani pic & write-up too. 2. A second small pic of Joni & Emmylou Harris inside, as well as this text about Siquomb: " Poet, composer, painter - Joni Mitchell started out 37 years ago as a high soprano with an acoustic guitar. But, as she would be the first to tell you, she is no folksinger. A complex songwriter and imaginative guitarist, she has produced an infuential, remarkable body of work that includes 21 albums, among them collaborations with Wayne Shorter and Charles Mingus; she has also had a retrospective of her paintings in her native Saskatoon, won five Grammy awards, and received a 1997 induction into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame that she refused to attend. A chain-smoker who rails at the dimished standards of today's pop culture, Mitchell is a wicked mimic and says that reading Nietzsche makes her smile. Her next project: two albums of her own songs with a symphony orchestra. At our cover shoot, when a nearly breathless Maxwell told her how much her music meant to his life, she stared at him for a minute, smiled, and said "Well then, give me a hug." Fashion note: in the photo she wears a blouse by Roberto Cavalli and Jeans by The Gap. Bob NP: XTC, "Harvest Festival" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 09:56:58 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: The Tribute to Joni ( Thursday night lecture) In a message dated 10/19/01 9:46:41 AM Eastern Daylight Time, FMYFL@aol.com writes: > Time to get ready for the unveiling of "Joni's star" at noon. Hopefully > we'll get some good photos. Wish us luck! > > Jimmy & Rick, Thanks for taking the time to share all of what's been going on with us. Here's hoping and wishing you guys get some great photos. Many hugs and much love, Rose in NJ rosemjoy@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 10:00:50 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni in VF In a message dated 10/19/01 9:56:01 AM Eastern Daylight Time, SCJoniGuy@aol.com writes: > At our cover shoot, when a nearly breathless > Maxwell told her how much her music meant to his life, she stared at him > for > a minute, smiled, and said "Well then, give me a hug." > > Fashion note: in the photo she wears a blouse by Roberto Cavalli and Jeans > by > The Gap. > > I love it!!!! She looks damn good now, doesn't she though? Rose in NJ rosemjoy@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 11:11:31 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: The Tribute to Joni ( Thursday night lecture) Jimmy, Thanks for the great updates - you guys rock and rule! I'm already getting psyched about the recording...man, am I a major covers slut or WHAT? ;~) Bob NP: Ani, "Out of Range" live ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 16:25:23 +0100 From: colin Subject: Re: Anne's CD Well I made my call. i only Anee can fathom what i was saying as I am thick with cold right now! My own fault-i was baoting last week that I have not had a cold or flu since moving to the country! Now this one has come with chills and headcahes and sweats and has lasted 10 days so far! And there I was thinking my 1gm of C and a garlic pill a day was keeping it away! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 11:13:18 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni in VF << I love it!!!! She looks damn good now, doesn't she though? >> The coolest thing about her "look" is that it remains elegant, even when she's casual, and like her, there's nothing phony about it. Some of the other older music stars in the mag are still trying to look like teenagers, which is embarrassing. Joni looks her age in a GOOD way! Bob ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 10:23:37 -0500 From: "Donna J. Binkley" Subject: RE: Doctor's pills give you brand new ills (SJC) Dear Colin & Sherelle, My heart goes out to you both, as i read your posts this morning i became a little teary eyed because i could relate in my own way. My support to you both on doing whatever it takes to be strong again and cope with life. Colin, abusers always make you feel like it's your fault, like you being there just makes them do cruel things. That's a pant load. It is they who have a problem, NOT YOU. Keep remembering that and congratulations on your new strength, may it continue to grow. Love Donna - -----Original Message----- From: les@jmdl.com [mailto:les@jmdl.com]On Behalf Of colin Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 3:10 AM To: RobSher50@aol.com Cc: joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: Doctor's pills give you brand new ills (SJC) Hi Sherelle-good for you! I too would rather deal with my ups and downs myself and I do, fairly well. Okay, I am lucky in that my highs no longer send me crazy crazy. And my lows are no longer so dark as to incite suicide. Years of therapy paid off. Although I am hugely disappointed that the damned illness is still with me, it is now no where near as extreme. So the therpay did work-cleared awya the shit I wa scarrying, mostly, and thus I don;t have that added burden to fuel the mood swings. Unfortunately, you are right about other's attitudes. At best they are patronising and never see you as a real whole person. in discussions one is never taken seriously. For if you disagree with someone, it's 'well, he isn;t quite right is he?' At worst it is downright discrimination. Mental illness is still hugely discrimainated against, and acceptably so in our societies. Fear being the rooot of course. It doesn't help that tv and film often portray us as dangerous! Although i would have preferred not to have this thing, it has taught me much and it has enhanced my world view and my understanding of people. I tend to see things differently. yes, this sets me at odds with others but that is their problem. my different view shakes their world and they don't like it. The same can be said of my world of abuse when a child-yes I would rather not have had that-it would be great to have a family and a loving one at that. But that wasn't to be. It too has brought me much opportunity and I wouldn't be who I am today if I hadn't experienced all I have. However, I do not think any of this 'meant to be'. It just was and there was nothing I could about it. The worst aspect of it all, which still affects me today, is the doubting of my own thinking. I was always told that black was white or white was black or that my thoughts and doubts and questions were Satan's way of leading me astray, that it was Satan who put those thoughts in my mind.Thus I spent most of my life afraid and in excruiating doubt. I could not trust my own thinking, my own perceptions. Thus I was easily abused outside of the family as well. So people were able to do really bad things and I wouldn't see that and just think I was bad and it was my fault, I deserved it. I was lucky in that wehn I met my therapist my wal came tumbling down immediately-I trusted him straight away. Thru this trust of him I was able to start to trust myself. It did have it's drawbacks! For the first time in my life I felt rage, real anger, because now I knew what had been done to me and that it wasn't my fault! That was very hard to deal with. I also beagn to feel all sorts of other things, feelings I had long ago buried. I had learned as achild to 'shut down' and not feel anything. Thus when i wa sbeing hurt, I gave no reaction and felt nothing. unfortuantely those feelings stay with you and have to be felt one day. That day came for me and it was the most teryfying time of my life. Even today, I sometimes wish I could 'shut down' but I have leanred other methods of dealing with feelings. One thing I still do tho is 'disassociate'. i.e in situations I find diffiuclt, I go into a dream like state, shut down completely. Soemtimes this is okay but at other times it isn't because it leaves me exposed to danger and unable to defend myself. It does make me good in situations where others panic tho! The major side effect of feeling th bad stuff is I get to feel the good stuff too! bw colin ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2014 17:03:26 +0100 From: "Jamie Zubairi" Subject: Re: London's November Swan Song vljc While I agree with most of the above would take a chunk out of your purse...not sure if I remember Shakin Stevens on any Joni album to warrant me going. I mean Shakin Stevens!??!?!?!?! Just pulling your leg! From Jamie Zoob, also a London lurker.... - ----- Original Message ----- From: Preet To: Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 2:32 AM Subject: London's November Swan Song > 09 Nov Michael Brecker Union Chapel #15 > 10 Nov Wayne Shorter Royal Festival Hall #25 > 19 Nov Herbie Hancock 19th Forum #20 > 22 Nov Shakin' Stevens Pizza Express SW1 #3.50 > > Curse the London Jazz Festival. With a realistically disappointing chance of > seeing Joan on stage, gosh it's gonna be a dear month! > Now to book those tickets ... > > Preet Dhanoa > preetd@bigfoot.com > NP: Whoa Nelly > > [demime 0.97c removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 13:26:06 EDT From: Rusty10113@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni Potpourri just a note on john kelly's show... just calledfor info., and it says the Saturday show is at 8 pm... not the late show... they suggest getting there at 7 pm to get a good seat.. I saw John in the East Village recently and he's terrific, as many of you already know! Mitch ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 14:24:56 EDT From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni in VF Bob quoted: "...At our cover shoot, when a nearly breathless Maxwell told her how much her music meant to his life, she stared at him for a minute, smiled, and said "Well then, give me a hug." Awwww. How sweet is that? Thanks for posting this, Bob. I'm going to see Maxwell in a few days. Just one degree of separation from a Joni hug. I'm getting closer and closer... I've got tickets to see Etta James next Friday night as part of the San Francisco Jazz Festival, too. I'm glad she's not still dead. :-) - -Julius ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 14:09:31 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Subject: Joni in VF oh, how i love that photo of joni & emmylou! my 2 greatest inspirations! ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics www.polysonics.com Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 14:09:25 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: conan Julius said "Oooh, Diana Krall just came on "Late Night with Conan O'Brien." She's doing "I Cried a River for You." Sweet! Gotta Go. Bye." She was really good, also I loved the comedian that came on before her...he had some great lines about the world situation that I thought were both funny & true! ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics www.polysonics.com Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 14:34:09 -0700 From: jan Subject: Re: Subject: Joni in VF What's funny in that VF issue is that 'Dictionary For Rock Snobs'. Ouch! - -jan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 23:47:43 +0100 From: "Garret" Subject: re: My personal setlist (wishlist) for the upcoming orchestral Project. It's 24 songs isn't it? mmmm.... Cactus Tree Rainy Night HOuse Blue Boy Woodstock(actually, i'm tempted to list all of that album really, besides maybe BYT and circle game.) The Last Time I Saw Richard Barrangrill Let the wind carry me (or else lesson in survival?!?!) Blonde in the Bleachers Judgement of the Moon and Stars Down To You Just Like this Train Court and Spark Hejira Furry Sings the Blues Coyote Shadows and Light Boho Dance Dreamland (oh, imagine that:-) God Must Be A Boogie Man Be Cool Cherokee Louise Moon At The Window Sire of Sorrow Turbulent Indigo wow, 24 all ready! that was far more difficult that i thought it was going to be! GARRET ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 17:28:27 -0500 From: "Dolphie Bush" Subject: Re: Doctor's pills give you brand new ills (SJC) While everything said here has been true, it is also true that drugs can be very beneficial. My entire family suffers from some form of mental illness. I am not the least bit ashamed to say that. As a nurse, it becomes secondhand to discuss this kind of thing and one learns that mental illness is nothing more than that, an illness that is mental. My biologicial mother suffers in the way that she feels she must put baggies on anything that she touches. If the baggie is touched, by her or anyone else, she removes it and puts a new one in its place. All the door handles and kitchen cabinet handles have baggies on them. It is quite funny, in a way, if one was reading this or just watching her. My older sister and myself are both very obsessive compulsive. It manifests itself in different ways for different people. With me it makes me do silly things like counting to myself over and over again and reading the gauges in my car over and over again. And hypochondria. My goodness. I am dying of something different every single day. As far as depression, I suffer from that too but not as badly as some and only seem to have periods where it afflicts me very badly. I take Prozac. It keeps me from counting so much and keeps the depths from getting to me. Sure, all drugs have side effects but Prozac doesn't affect me adversely in that sense. I only take it three days a week, seems to keep me on an even keel, pretty much so. The doctor prescribed it every day but that dosage made me too aggressive, which is not good for someone who is naturally aggressive anyway. It is not addictive and easily excreted from the body. Writing of Lithium. My brother has been diagnosed with schizophrenia. He went completely off of the deep end. Lithium has brought my brother back, the brother I remember from before the illness struck him. I am very thankful for it. Without it, he would be lost to us forever. The important thing to remember about drugs is that some do have very favorable benefits, if taken properly. Mack - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 10:28 PM Subject: Re: Doctor's pills give you brand new ills (SJC) > Dear Colin, > It's so weird that I've been listening to this very song all day today while > working. I haven't pulled out my Turbulent Indigo CD for quite a while. It's > an absolutely fantastic CD. > > A friend's mother (who also became my friend) was prescribed Lithium back in > the 70's for her depression. I came over one day to visit her and was blown > away by the change in her personality. She was acting like she was living in > slow motion. I have suffered from depression all of my life, but after seeing > her and another ex-schoolmate on Thorazine, I swore that I would never take > any pills. Even back then, I felt that they would be extremely bad for me > personally. After reading your post, I now know that I was not wrong, at > least for myself. > > It's hard to fight depression cold turkey, but I've done it for many years. > One of the tricks I have recently learned is to drink a cup of coffee, > especially after a bad night. For some reason, the chemicals in the brain go > wacky and I have found that coffee helps my brain get back into gear. > > I've never admitted that I suffer from depression. I've seen how people are > treated in the workplace when they admit a vulnerability such as depression > or any type of dependency. They are treated like damaged goods and it is done > in such a sneaky way, it's hard to prove. Now that I am no longer in the > workplace, I can finally come to honest terms with what I have hidden for > years. You guys are the first people I've admitted this to because you are my > Jonilista family! > > Sherelle-NP Dave Koz-The Dance (Be Be Winans singing) > > In a message dated 10/17/2001 10:30:21 AM Pacific Daylight Time, les@jmdl.com > writes: > > > > Getting off was hell. other drugs for my Bipolar have caused me liver > > trouble(cirrhosis) and heart probelms. Which is why I refuse to take > > meds now. Many drugs, especially the psych drugs, cause bad side > > effects-some casue brain damage and the damage can be permanent. I don't > > think people fulyy understand the eeffect of these drugs nor the > > suffering they cause to the person taking them. If they did, they might > > not clamour for people with mental health probs to take them. eevn the > > modern antui depressants like Prozac have serious side effects in some > > people. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 16:40:50 -0600 From: Les Irvin Subject: German Joni-fan seeks trading contacts in Europe >From: "Ralf Bei der Kellen" >Subject: German Joni-fan seeks trading contacts in Europe >Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 23:32:10 +0200 > >Hi there, > >I am a (male) German fan of Joni Mitchell & would like to set up some >trading-contacts with other Joni-fans, especially from Europe. I get access >to the Joni-site, so I thought I'd try it this way. Thanks very much, every >info is appreciated. > >ralf. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 16:42:16 -0600 From: Les Irvin Subject: Picture of Joni at the Walk of Fame Hurry while it lasts.... http://www.canoe.ca/JamIncludes/photo_of_day.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 18:48:05 EDT From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: Re: oops This brings up a question I've been pondering. I'd appreciate advice from the Joni-only contingent here: If I forget to tag something "njc" does it exacerbate the problem to apologize to the Joni-onlies by sending another post, sans the njc tag, with my apologies, since that only sends more njc mail? Or do the Joni-onlies appreciate the apology, since it is a reminder that it was just an isolated transgression and is not likely to be repeated by that person, and they thus realize that it's not necessary to send a nasty gram reminder to the list at large? I'm just wondering. - -Julius ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 17:47:22 -0500 From: "Dolphie Bush" Subject: Re: embarrassed fans Deb, nice post. I am listening to Hall and Oates right this very minute. Love em. Belong to their posting site too though it is not as evolved as Joni's. Contrary to what some may believe, they are anything but shallow. Except maybe for that 80's hit stuff. Mack - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Deb Messling" To: "Joni" Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 5:38 PM Subject: RE: embarrassed fans NJC > I think there are two possible threads here. The music you liked that your > teen peers didn't, and the music you liked that your grown-up peers say you > shouldn't have! > > As for the former, I worshipped Joni when all my peers professed to HATE > her, and I loved the Incredible String Band, who were totally unknown to > everyone but me and my cat. Plus an assortment of other English folkie > types, like Fairport, Steeleye Span, Pentangle, Ralph Mctell...I had a > million records in my room, which made me look cool to my peers until they > saw the titles. Then I looked weird. > > As for the former, I liked Seals & Crofts (eek. how syrupy). And Hall & > Oates (eek! how shallow). > > > ----------------------------------- > Deb Messling =^..^= > ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 19:23:56 -0500 From: James Leahy Subject: Shadows & Light in Toronto Shadows and Light was released in Canada this week. I bought it at the downtown Indigo store here in Toronto. $34.95 (Cdn.) It is an official UK/Canada release. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 20:12:56 EDT From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: oops In a message dated 10/19/01 10:48:55 PM !!!First Boot!!!, JRMCo1@aol.com writes: > If I forget to tag something "njc" does it exacerbate the problem to > apologize to the Joni-onlies by sending another post, sans the njc tag, > with my apologies, since that only sends more njc mail? Or do the > Joni-onlies appreciate the apology, since it is a reminder that it was just > an isolated transgression and is not likely to be repeated by that person, > and they thus realize that it's not necessary to send a nasty gram reminder > to the list at large? > IMHO, the apology will short-circuit anyone who might be inclined to send you a post reminding you to use the NJC tag in the future, and most likely is appreciated. Paul I ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 18:14:48 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Picture of Joni at the Walk of Fame Thanks Les! What a great photo! (Looks like it may be a little chilly there) I am so excited for all the JMDL'ers who are right now in Joni's company and can't wait for more reports! Kakki > Hurry while it lasts.... > http://www.canoe.ca/JamIncludes/photo_of_day.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 02:52:24 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: Picture of Joni at the Walk of Fame joni and atwood together!!!!! this is such a sweet picture! thank you, les! wallyK - -----Mensaje original----- De: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]En nombre de Les Irvin Enviado el: Viernes, 19 de Octubre de 2001 07:42 p.m. Para: joni@smoe.org Asunto: Picture of Joni at the Walk of Fame Hurry while it lasts.... http://www.canoe.ca/JamIncludes/photo_of_day.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 23:40:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Mags N Brei Subject: omfg definitely joni content two thirty five a.m...cannot go to bed without saying something and yet I cannot find a way to articulate what it meant to us, to all of us who shared this incredible and very intimate evening celebrating the life of Joni. I felt like I was sitting in the livingroom with Joni... she was so relaxed and beautiful and obviously having the time of her life. Her voice is in fine form and her piano playing... yes you are reading that right...her piano playing... that's where the omfg comes in. She sat down at the piano and graced us with compositions from her heart and soul. and then came the demo tapes. okay, i think that's enough of a tease. i am certain that our roving reporters will tell all... and just wait until Janine tells her story!!! and Stephen... and Ashara... and jimmmmmmyyyyyy omfg.... love to all.... night, magsnbrei....together in hamilton. just like dorothy says. ;) p.s. Thanks Joni, for us. ===== I've got you to see me through, looking out for what I do Spreading sunshine from the skies, placing rainbows in my eyes Got you watching out for me, making sense of what I see When my world is wearing blue, I've got you to see me through . - ---by Eleanor McEvoy on her album Yola (2001) . Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 02:43:09 EDT From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: a place where you don't spit Here's a quotation from a news story about Joni's induction to Canada's Walk of Fame. "I'd like that little spot on the sidewalk to be a place where you don't spit," quipped singer-songwriter Joni Mitchell, during her thank-you speech at her induction ceremony for Canada's Walk of Fame in Toronto. You can read the whole story at: http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/rolls/20011019/en/canada_honors_joni_1.html --Bob ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #326 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?