From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #324 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Thursday, October 18 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 324 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Anne's CD [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] tribute in toronto [Kate ] Re: Shane's Post on Terrorism ["J. R. Mills" ] JM Biography ["jlamadoo, home account" ] RE: JM Biography ["Wally Kairuz" ] Re: JM Biography [Vince Lavieri ] Re: JM Biography [Murphycopy@aol.com] Re: JM Biography ["Kakki" ] "Doctor's pills give you brand-new ills." ["jlamadoo, home account" ] Re: JM Biography [Gary Zack ] Subject: Re: JM Biography ["Kate Bennett" ] The Gallery [Leslie Mixon ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 20:17:52 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Anne's CD Isn't Joni just something? (so much for the Joni content) OK, Anne's surgery is scheduled for NEXT Friday, the 26th. So that means if you want to be a part of our "recording" project for her, you still have time. If you've been deleting digests, I'm collecting messages of love, faith & support for Anne and compiling them on a CD to send her. She'll use the messages to draw strength and in a way it'll be like we're there holding her hand. So, if you think it's too late to pitch in, it's not. You can send me a recording, tape or CD, or you can e-mail an Mp3 or a wav. file, or you can just call me and leave a message on my recorder, and through the miracle of modern technology and Playskool toys I'll do the Henry Lewy business! :~) Hey, call from work and it's free! Just be sure to call between the hours of 8-3 east coast time. If you screw up and call at the wrong time (as one of you crazy girls did & you know I love you for it!), no problem, I'll just tell you to call back and I'll let it record. My phone number....864-233-7584 Imagine that YOU are in Anne's place, and about to face something that put you in a place of much anxiety. Wouldn't it be great to hear from your JMDL brothers & sisters to feel the power that comes from this group? I'm not twisting anyone's arm, and I appreciate that everyone responds in the manner that suits them. Thanks for your time...I've gotten a good response, but if you feel so moved to chime in, please do so. Love & peace to ya, Bob NP: Ani, "freakshow" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 17:52:12 -0500 From: Kate Subject: tribute in toronto Hey fellas -- did they tape it for tv? Kate du Nord ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 18:06:57 -0700 From: "J. R. Mills" Subject: Re: Shane's Post on Terrorism > Kakki, who actually remembers Schultz being considered a "moderate" Well, Kakki, everything is relative. > Now Julius - I thought the extreme political right were those ignorant, > red-neck, gun-toting, Christian fundamentalist militia types. ;-) That would be some people's characterization (not mine, mind you) of "conservatives." I don't use "conservative" and "political right" interchangably. :-) Seriously though. George Schultz was Secretary of State during the Reagan Administration. Ronnie was a pretty secular guy. When I say "extreme political right," I mean politicians, lobbyists and others who attempt to concentrate political and economic power in the hands of a few industry giants and then turn around and go work for these enriched companies for untold millions in compensation after they leave office. Dick Chaney at Haliburton, George Schultz at Bechtel (where I worked with him), etc. This is where characters like Shane's Mr. Charles Hill and the Hoover Institution fellows come in. For those that aren't aware, the Hoover Institution is an ultra-right "think tank" located on the Stanford University campus. Theoretically, it is not affiliated with the University. Long story. Anyway, since the end of the Cold War there has been significant consolidation in the U.S. defense industry. A number of high-level mergers have subsequently occurred, resulting in the concentration of economic and political power in the hands of a few industry giants. For example, General Dynamics Corporation, which operates Electric Boat, acquired Bath Shipbuilding in 1995 and National Steel and Shipbuilding (NASSCO) in 1998, and now controls three of the nation's six shipyards which produce Navy vessels. The "Big Three" in the defense industry -- Lockheed Martin, Boeing and Raytheon -- alone accounted for 26% of all defense contracts in FY'99. In Fiscal Year 1999 the Department of Defense awarded $118 billion to contractors for goods and services. The reason an alarm goes off when I read something like shane posted from the Hoover Institution fellow, which I'll go ahead and repeat here, is that these guys' mouths are watering at the prospect of another prolonged "war against terrorism" whereby they can get the defense contracts flowing big time again and reap the huge dividends while the poor keep getting poor. The wealthy and those politically connected to the Pentagon (and the CIA) will be the one who can get the huge, huge dollars that flow from the limitless defense contracts. That's why George W. and his dad's pals wanted the "Star Wars" system so badly before this terrorism thing surfaced. It has very little, if anything, to do with national defense. They're all about the money! - -Julius "CH: The Cold War experience is important in a psychological sense and in a sense of an example of how much will power had to do with our eventual success there. And that's the kind of thing we'll need in the war against terrorism. We're going to hear again and again and again from within our own population "Now you've done enough, don't do any more," and we can't stop. We just have to listen to them but keep going. Because if we don't keep going, this affliction will really destroy civilization" > Julius wrote: > > >I would take anything espoused by a Hoover Institution > > fellow or Schultz with a grain of salt, as they represent >the extreme > political right ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 22:06:41 -0400 From: "jlamadoo, home account" Subject: JM Biography I received and forwarded a copy from Covington, Kentucky yesterday. Amazon U.K. did a fine job. The book was professionlly though simply packed in a folding, padded mailing wrapper. The billing was in British units, so until I check my account at the bank, I don't know it in USA Dollars. I read and loved the Forward and I'm looking forward (hee hee) to reading my own copy next week. The list of sources that Karen O'Brien read in preparation (the Bibliography) is immense. In that, she's truely one of us. As others have noted, she mentions the work of Les Irvin, Simon, Bob Muller, Wally Breese and JJ. In particular, Karen points readers to jmdl.com to research Covers of Joni's songs. Congratulations, Bob, on getting some recognition for this useful Work you've done. And thanks as always to Les for creating the space. (You already GOT your recognition, Les, at that al fresco lunch.) :) Life is good. Lama Get well, Anne! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 23:13:59 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: JM Biography i'm so happy that bob muller is getting some recognition for his labor of love. congratulations, dear friend!!!!!! wallyK ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 22:35:35 -0400 From: Vince Lavieri Subject: Re: JM Biography "jlamadoo, home account" wrote: > In particular, Karen points readers to jmdl.com to > research Covers of Joni's songs. > She thanks Bob Muller!!!!! p 334!!!!!!!! Bob, your name is in the book! (the Rev) Vince, very proud of you ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 22:52:23 EDT From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: JM Biography In a message dated 10/17/01 9:15:31 PM, wallykai@fibertel.com.ar writes: << i'm so happy that bob muller is getting some recognition for his labor of love. congratulations, dear friend!!!!!! >> A big 'ME TOO' here. I am impressed with all the work you do for the covers project, Bob. I think it's a very important archival achievement that will one day be given the recognition it deserves (beyond your admirers here, of course). Which reminds me, wasn't there a plan a few months ago to box the set and send it to you-know-who? I think she would love -- and hate, of course! -- many of the individual artists' efforts. In any case, I'm sure she would treasure it. So if there's anything i can do to make it happen, let me know. --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 19:14:57 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: JM Biography Me, too, too! Bob surely deserves it and I'm so happy for him!! > Which reminds me, wasn't there a plan a few months >ago to box the set and send it to you-know-who? I think >she would love -- and hate, of course! -- many of the >individual artists' efforts. In any case, I'm sure she would > treasure it. So if there's anything i can do to make it >happen, let me know. Well, we tawk about it and tawk about it and we should start working on it. Probably too late for her birthday now, but maybe a holiday or New Year's gift? Hell offered to make a beautiful box of rare New Zealand woods to house it in. Wouldn't it be funny to enclose a note from Bob telling her how she can get future installments? heehee ;-) Thanks also Bob, Ashara, Les and all the incredible photographers for the Jonifest page - it is truly spectacular! Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 23:18:38 -0400 From: "jlamadoo, home account" Subject: "Doctor's pills give you brand-new ills." Hi Justin, Welcome to the wacky world of posting on the JMDL where you risk becoming a Public Person with a single mouse click. I don't remember the details about Joni's personal motivation at the time for the lines, "Doctor's pills give you brand-new ills." but certianly imperfect health is an ongoing theme in her life, most significantly when she was bedridden as a kid. If you don't know that story, check out the bio on www.jonimithcell.com first. The neat thing about her lyrics is that you can live inside a refrain for a time and live in another verse in another. What I mean is, the song is so true to the experience of Medicine that you have discovered the lyric for yourself. But anyway, back to your question. There are tons of articles on the www.jmdl.com site, built by Les Irwin of Colorado. If she talked about health problems in interviews for that album, you'll find the comments there. It's an amazing resource. Lama ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 23:19:40 EDT From: Dflahm@aol.com Subject: Re: Clouds, Gallery,... I have heard Leslie Mixon sing "The Gallery" memorably. DAVID LAHM ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 23:43:10 -0400 From: bbBear Subject: harborfront tribute I'm behind on reading digests, so forgive if this has already been covered... Joni Mitchell: A Tribute in Song Over the past 25 years Joni Mitchell has touched countless lives with her brilliant compositions and performances. For one night only, some of Toronto's best will thank her in the best way possible, by providing fresh interpretations of her songs. Aaron Davis, the man behind the legendary band Manteca, is the Musical Director for this special evening. A renowned keyboardist, arranger and composer, Davis has created a special band for this evening composed of drummer Mark Kelso, bassist George Koller, woodwinds player John Johnson and, of course, himself on keyboards. Special guest vocalists for the tribute include Jane Siberry, Suzie Vinnick, David Sereda, Marc Jordan, Martina Sorbara, Rebecca Jenkins, Tuku and Ember Swift. Tuesday, October 16, 8 pm Premiere Dance Theatre $25 http://www.worldleadersfestival.com/events/specialevents/performances.html some of you may also be interested in the gabriel tribute that also features jane siberry. barbara np: me'shell ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 00:22:49 -0400 From: Gary Zack Subject: Re: JM Biography Absolutely Bob! Congrats! You are truly the master of the covers and we do appreciate you!! Which reminds me, I still need to get my act together and complete my covers collection! Hope you still need this; snagged a cover of Both Sides Now by Chad Mitchell. (Bell label I believe/sealed) It hasn't arrived yet, but if you want it, when I get it, you got it! Best, Gary np: Nathan La Franeer - Joni 2nd Fret Murphycopy@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 10/17/01 9:15:31 PM, wallykai@fibertel.com.ar writes: > > << i'm so happy that bob muller is getting some recognition for his labor of > love. congratulations, dear friend!!!!!! >> > > A big 'ME TOO' here. I am impressed with all the work you do for the covers > project, Bob. I think it's a very important archival achievement that will > one day be given the recognition it deserves (beyond your admirers here, of > course). > > Which reminds me, wasn't there a plan a few months ago to box the set and > send it to you-know-who? I think she would love -- and hate, of course! -- > many of the individual artists' efforts. In any case, I'm sure she would > treasure it. So if there's anything i can do to make it happen, let me know. > > --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 21:16:57 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Subject: Re: JM Biography HOORAY for Bob! That is so exciting to be in Joni's biography!!!!! woohoo!!!!! ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics www.polysonics.com Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 22:31:05 -0700 From: Leslie Mixon Subject: The Gallery Dear Mr. Lahm: And singing "The Gallery" to your accompaniment was a true honor and a warm arrangement. Leslie ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #324 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?