From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #323 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Wednesday, October 17 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 323 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Joni Mitchell - A Tribute In Song - in Toronto (LONG - 100% JC - Get Coffee) [Coyote4Joni@a] Today in Joni History: October 17 [les@jmdl.com] Joni Mitchell - A Tribute In Song - in Toronto (LONG - 100% JC - Get Coffee) [Coyote4Joni@a] Joni Mitchell - A Tribute In Song - in Toronto (LONG - 100% JC - Get Coffee) [Coyote4Joni@a] Sorry [Coyote4Joni@aol.com] Re: Doctor's pills give you brand new ills? [colin ] Re: Clouds, Gallery,... [RoseMJoy@aol.com] Re: Today in Joni History: October 17 San Remo ["Leslie Ross" ] Vanity Fair Cover Photo Url (Pic of Joni) [mann@chicagonet.net] [none] ["shane mattison" ] Re: Today in Joni History: October 17 San Remo [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Shane's Post on Terrorism ["J. R. Mills" ] Re: Shane's Post on Terrorism ["J. R. Mills" ] Re: Clouds, Gallery,... [colin ] Joni Mitchell - A Tribute In Song - in Toronto (LONG - 100% JC - Get Coffee) ["Kate Bennett" ] 2 Joni tickets available - Friday Toronto [Les Irvin ] Re: [Jonifest2001] 2 Joni tickets available - Friday Toronto [Mags Subject: Re: Doctor's pills give you brand new ills? > unfortunately, you can't just *stop* taking the damn > things, or you'll end up with a whole mess of trouble, > including dizzy spells, headaches, nausea, the list > goes on. getting off tranx is not easy. the withdrawal is the worst. it MUST be done slowly. Seizures can be one of the withdrawal effects if not done slowly. I withdrew from 15mg a day of valium by 1 mg a week. ie took 14mg a day for a week then 13mg etc etc etc The worst thing about valium is that you start to get withdrawal symptoms whilst you are on the same dose-your body gets hooked very very quickly - in as little as two weeks. Drs who ware ignorant of it's effects, prescribe higher doses when the patirent complains of still feeling anxiety when in fact it is the drug casuing it. Getting off was hell. other drugs for my Bipolar have caused me liver trouble(cirrhosis) and heart probelms. Which is why I refuse to take meds now. Many drugs, especially the psych drugs, cause bad side effects-some casue brain damage and the damage can be permanent. I don't think people fulyy understand the eeffect of these drugs nor the suffering they cause to the person taking them. If they did, they might not clamour for people with mental health probs to take them. eevn the modern antui depressants like Prozac have serious side effects in some people. > > Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca - -- bw colin DAK,BRO GC, 950i, 940,860,864,890, 260,Silver 830,860, 580 and 270, Passap 6000, Duo80. colin@tantra-apso.com http://www.tantra-apso.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 09:35:55 +0100 From: colin Subject: Re: Joni Mitchell - A Tribute In Song - in Toronto (LONG - 100% JC- Get Coffee) What a night! Thank you for sharing it with us. bw colin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 22:55:51 +1300 From: "hell" Subject: Re: Joni Mitchell - A Tribute In Song - in Toronto (LONG - 100% JC - Get Coffee) Coyote Rick wrote: > Dear Correspondents: > > Tonight, JMDLer Jimmy Stewart from Fort Myers, FL and I attended Canada's > tribute to Joni's music. It was absolutely fantastic for someone who > appreciates excellent music, not to mention dyed in the wool Joni fans such > as Jimmy and I. I'll just start off by saying we thought it was even better > than the TNT tribute done some time ago. Wow - what a night! Thanks for posting so promptly, Rick - even if I did get it four times! It was definitely worth reading four times! Hell P.S. Hi Jimmy! ____________________________ "To have great poets, there must be great audiences too." - Walt Whitman hell@ihug.co.nz Hell's Personal Photo Page: http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hell/main/personal.htm Visit the NBLs (Natural Born Losers) at: http://www.nbls.co.nz ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 19:50:34 +0800 From: "joniphile" Subject: Re: Doctor's pills give you brand new ills? Dear all, Wow, I got a LOT of welcome emails since my first post. It seems that quite a few of you are no stranger to the nightmares of tranquilizers. Thanks to those who gave me their encouragement and advice. Now that I am out of lurking mode, I guess I should declare myself as a huge joni fan for almost 15 years. I regret to say that I still have not had the pleasure of seeing her perform live. It's hard to pick my favourite album, they include FOR THE ROSES, HISSING OF SUMMER LAWNS, HEJIRA, DON JUAN'S RECKLESS DAUGHTER, NIGHT RIDE HOME and TURBULENT INDIGO. I really miss Joni's acoustic guitar playing, and I hope she would play some in her forthcoming orchestral project. There had been quite a few classical concertos written for the guitar. I think it will sound most beautiful. Someone asked me what do I think the oddest Joni song is. Hmm.... "Smokin' (Empty, Try Another)"? Is that odd enough? Justin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 08:20:10 EDT From: BigWaltinSF@aol.com Subject: Re: What song? Hi, Mary, I think my favorite lyric, and overall song, is Jericho, although there are a lot of competitors -- and now there are six new songs for me to learn since Ashara last night gave me a copy of the Couriers Folk Club Appearance! Gotta run -- my main squeeze, Robert, is about to land at the Providence airport -- everybody have a wonderful day, walt ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 08:23:02 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni Mitchell - A Tribute In Song - in Toronto (LONG - 100% JC - Get Coffee) Wow, Rick!! Thanks so much for this most thorough & great report! As you requested, I got coffee, but it soon became undrinkable as you had me DROOLING all in it! :~D Rob Piltch was also on "Back To The Garden", the Canadian trib CD. He plays that weird version of "River", which also appears on his band's (Buzz Wilco) CD "Circo". Why anyone but me would give a shit about that, I have no idea... And as for Jane Siberry, you said: <> So, be glad! You saw her on a GOOD night. Mediocre is the best this poor gal can do! I'd love it if this recording was released, but that's probably doubtful. And as always, they only did pre-1980 Joni, which is always a bit of a pet peeve as it perpetuates the notion that Joni is a thing of the past. At least there was a version of one of the TI songs, How Do You Stop, even if it's not hers. Sort of ironic, though... Anyway, I don't mean to sound snipy or negative...I would've loved to have been there with my JMDL buds, soaking it all in. Thanks again for the marvelous report!! Bob NP: David Wilcox, "Spirit Wind", live on KINK radio ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 08:27:14 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Today in Joni History: October 17 <<1988: Joni performs at the San Remo Songfest in Italy.>> And the VERY cool thing about this show is the "scat" version of "Passion Play", when she has the music but no lyrics, so she just 'dipthongs' her way through it. Also, our very own Mauro Regis was there, and took a bunch of nice photos! Joni really looked different that night, a checkered shirt and her hair pulled back... Bob NP: McKinley, "Citizen Kane" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 10:56:52 EDT From: BigWaltinSF@aol.com Subject: Clouds, Gallery,... Hi, all, from Rhode Island (or as we pronounce it heyah, Vo Dilin'. Bob Muller wrote: >>Sadly, Clouds is generally one of Joni's least popular records here, and I think it's one of her prettiest. And every song on it (The Gallery being the exception) has been covered by someone!<< I particularly love The Gallery and I Don't Know Where I Stand -- hard to believe that no one has covered Gallery -- but it's a challenging song, with its swoops and turns -- and very personal, I guess (but aren't so many of Joni's?). I consider it a harbinger of what was to come on Ladies and Blue. Hugs, Waltuh in Vo Dilan' NP: Come to the Sunshine. (Swoon.) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 11:36:27 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: Clouds, Gallery,... In a message dated 10/17/01 11:02:58 AM Eastern Daylight Time, BigWaltinSF@aol.com writes: > I particularly love The Gallery and I Don't Know Where I Stand -- hard to > believe that no one has covered Gallery -- but it's a challenging song, > Leslie mixon did a lovely rendition of The Gallery at Jonifest last year ;~) Rose in Noo Joisey rosemjoy@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 12:02:38 -0400 From: "Gerald A. Notaro" Subject: Re: Clouds, Gallery,... I just could never understand why Clouds ranks so poorly. With songs like I Had A King, Michael From Mountains, Night In The City, Marcie, Nathan La Franeer, Song To A Seagull, and Cactus Tree it's always been a favorite of mine. Vintage Joni. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 17:43:43 +0100 From: colin Subject: Re: Clouds, Gallery,... ummm.....those songs are from Song To A Seagull-her first album. "Gerald A. Notaro" wrote: > I just could never understand why Clouds ranks so poorly. With songs > like I Had A King, Michael From Mountains, Night In The City, Marcie, > Nathan La Franeer, Song To A Seagull, and Cactus Tree it's always been > a favorite of mine. Vintage Joni. > > Jerry - -- bw colin DAK,BRO GC, 950i, 940,860,864,890, 260,Silver 830,860, 580 and 270, Passap 6000, Duo80. colin@tantra-apso.com http://www.tantra-apso.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 12:36:45 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: Clouds, Gallery,... In a message dated 10/17/01 11:58:19 AM Eastern Daylight Time, notaro@bayflash.stpt.usf.edu writes: > I just could never understand why Clouds ranks so poorly. With songs > like I Had A King, Michael From Mountains, Night In The City, Marcie, > Nathan La Franeer, Song To A Seagull, and Cactus Tree it's always been > a favorite of mine. Vintage Joni. > > Why is that? It's in my CD changer right now. Some of those songs are on Song To A Seagull, btw...hee hee, another recording which isn't far from my CD player. These are the two albums that drew me to Joni in the first place. Total artistic genius IMHO. Timeless treasures. Rose in NJ rosemjoy@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 16:44:33 +0000 From: "Leslie Ross" Subject: Re: Today in Joni History: October 17 San Remo Bob wrote > ><<1988: Joni performs at the San Remo Songfest in Italy.>> > >And the VERY cool thing about this show is the "scat" version >of "Passion >Play", when she has the music but no lyrics, so she >just 'dipthongs' her >way through it. Oh ABSOLUTELY Bob! I got a video of this performance from the freebee table at the fest. During the same performance - I think - she plays an acoustic version of Lakota that just makes my hair stand on end. This is one song of Joni's that I have long held 'suffers' from the electric/synth arrangement. This acoustic version for me is just superb especially the "sun / moon, pity me" part. I loved this. I'd love too to get it cleaned up on disc as the video sound is pants, basically. Les (London) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 12:49:36 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Clouds, Gallery,... colin wrote: > ummm.....those songs are from Song To A Seagull-her first album. > > "Gerald A. Notaro" wrote: > > > I just could never understand why Clouds ranks so poorly. With songs > > like I Had A King, Michael From Mountains, Night In The City, Marcie, > > Nathan La Franeer, Song To A Seagull, and Cactus Tree it's always been > > a favorite of mine. Vintage Joni. > > > > Jerry Yes, yes. I made a mistake. Wish I got this much attention to my hormones rising. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 12:30:00 -0500 From: mann@chicagonet.net Subject: Vanity Fair Cover Photo Url (Pic of Joni) Found a picture of the Vanity Fair cover Opened. You can see Joni casually perched in the back. http://www.subscriberdirect.com/vf/0111/ FYI: Walmart and Target discount magazines 10%. So instead of $3.95 an issue you'll pay $3.55 (especially nice if you're buying more than one issue) Got my issue at Target. Their shelves had plenty. Plus they are all wrapped in a protective plastic and in perfect condition. For anyone going to Target and who wants to stock up on wrapping paper........check out the Clearance end-caps by the greeting cards/candles. I found beautiful gold gift wrapping tissue (8 BIG sheets per pack 20"x26"/.50x.66m) for 90 cents. The gold sheets reminded me of this Joni poster. Really!! http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1475052926 It looks like what she's wearing on her head here! (It's amazing how Joni can be weaved into about anything!! haha) Lots of other tissue paper for .49 cents and gift bags under $1 too. Check out the clearance in electronics also. Lots of stuff and maybe something you need for the computer, games, etc. surge protectors $2.44, cell phone & computer headsets $2.44 to $5. Sony phone for $12 (the same one we originally payed $59 for earlier this year!! ) Always scan the price too (usually a scanner in the Toy section in the outer aisle). Items often scan lower then the price tag. You get the scanned price!! Laura ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 11:45:18 -0600 From: "shane mattison" Subject: [none] Charles Hill is diplomat in residence and lecturer in International Studies at Yale, and a Hoover Institution research fellow. Hill served as executive aide to former U.S. Secretary of State George P. Schultz (1985--1989) and was a special consultant on policy to the secretary-general of the United Nations from 1992 to 1996. He spoke to Yale Daily News Contributing Reporter C. Wallace DeWitt about the challenges facing the U.S. government and the present generation of Yale students. CH: The Cold War experience is important in a psychological sense and in a sense of an example of how much will power had to do with our eventual success there. And that's the kind of thing we'll need in the war against terrorism. We're going to hear again and again and again from within our own population "Now you've done enough, don't do any more," and we can't stop. We just have to listen to them but keep going. Because if we don't keep going, this affliction will really destroy civilization. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 13:36:15 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Today in Joni History: October 17 San Remo <> While I'm chuckling at the mental picture THAT conveys, I'll confirm that that unplugged Lakota is a part of the same show. The full setlist is: Lakota Hejira Number One Night Ride Home Passion Play Joni and Larry Klein are the musicians. It's about half an hour long. I've got a pretty good sounding copy if you're interested! And there's a lot of spoken Italian as well, which sounds to me like: Blah blah blah blah Blah blah blah blah Blah blah blah blah Joni Meeetchell Blah blah blah blah Blah blah blah blah Larry Klein! :~D And I agree that Lakota is a much better song when it's freed from the slings and arrows of outrageous 80's production! ;~) Bob NP: Junior Kimbrough, "Meet Me In The City" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 11:01:13 -0700 From: "J. R. Mills" Subject: Re: Shane's Post on Terrorism I am very familiar with the Hoover Institution and have worked closely with George Schultz. I would take anything espoused by a Hoover Institution fellow or Schultz with a grain of salt, as they represent the extreme political right and have a vested interest in perpetuating the military-industrial complex in the U.S. and globally. - -Julius - ----- Original Message ----- From: "shane mattison" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 10:45 AM > Charles Hill is diplomat in residence and lecturer in International Studies at > Yale, and a Hoover Institution research fellow. Hill served as executive aide > to former U.S. Secretary of State George P. Schultz (1985--1989) and was a > special consultant on policy to the secretary-general of the United Nations > from 1992 to 1996. He spoke to Yale Daily News Contributing Reporter C. > Wallace DeWitt about the challenges facing the U.S. government and the present > generation of Yale students. > > CH: The Cold War experience is important in a psychological sense and in a > sense of an example of how much will power had to do with our eventual success > there. And that's the kind of thing we'll need in the war against terrorism. > We're going to hear again and again and again from within our own population > "Now you've done enough, don't do any more," and we can't stop. We just have > to listen to them but keep going. Because if we don't keep going, this > affliction will really destroy civilization. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 11:07:23 -0700 From: "J. R. Mills" Subject: Re: Shane's Post on Terrorism Yikes! That was obviously totally NJC. So sorry, Joni-Onlies. - -Julius ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 19:22:48 +0100 From: colin Subject: Re: Clouds, Gallery,... > Wish I got this much attention to my hormones > rising. this sounds interesting. do tell. > > > Jerry - -- bw colin DAK,BRO GC, 950i, 940,860,864,890, 260,Silver 830,860, 580 and 270, Passap 6000, Duo80. colin@tantra-apso.com http://www.tantra-apso.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 11:48:42 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Joni Mitchell - A Tribute In Song - in Toronto (LONG - 100% JC - Get Coffee) wow, rick & jimmy, what an incredible night! thanks so much for posting this rick.... lol re: you never want to hear another guy sing case of you...my friend doug ingoldsby will be doing this very song at our santa barbara tribute to joni on november 7! (actually i love his version & some say he sounds like tracy chapman so maybe it'll be okay!) ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics www.polysonics.com Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 12:01:14 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Shane's Post on Terrorism Julius wrote: >I would take anything espoused by a Hoover Institution > fellow or Schultz with a grain of salt, as they represent >the extreme political right Now Julius - I thought the extreme political right were those ignorant, red-neck, gun-toting, Christian fundamentalist militia types. ;-) Kakki, who actually remembers Schultz being considered a "moderate" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 13:57:02 -0600 From: Les Irvin Subject: 2 Joni tickets available - Friday Toronto Urgent message from Amy Maestri: >Subject: 2 Joni tickets Friday Toronto >Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 10:25:10 -0700 >From: "Maestri Amy " > >I have 2 tickets to the JM Hommage in Toronto this Friday. Great seats! >3rd row, RIGHT, seats 48-49. I'll sell them for $50 US which is a >bargain. Face value for two is $255 US. Tix include Joni event and a >gourmet dinner prior at the Liberty-Grand Exhibition Place in Toronto. >Check the websites: www.Libertygrand.com or >www.worldleadersfestival.com/events/hommages/mitchell.html >email me if you are interested. I'll ship them FREE in time for Friday. >I'm in the N. Bay area if anyone is local and want to pick them up. >Hurry--event is this Friday! > >thanks much, >Amy > >amy.maestri@nokia.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 19:31:22 -0400 From: Mags Subject: Re: [Jonifest2001] 2 Joni tickets available - Friday Toronto did anyone scoop these up yet??? mags. Les Irvin wrote: > Urgent message from Amy Maestri: > > >Subject: 2 Joni tickets Friday Toronto > >Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 10:25:10 -0700 > >From: "Maestri Amy " > > > >I have 2 tickets to the JM Hommage in Toronto this Friday. Great seats! > >3rd row, RIGHT, seats 48-49. I'll sell them for $50 US which is a > >bargain. Face value for two is $255 US. Tix include Joni event and a > >gourmet dinner prior at the Liberty-Grand Exhibition Place in Toronto. > >Check the websites: www.Libertygrand.com or > >www.worldleadersfestival.com/events/hommages/mitchell.html > >email me if you are interested. I'll ship them FREE in time for Friday. > >I'm in the N. Bay area if anyone is local and want to pick them up. > >Hurry--event is this Friday! > > > >thanks much, > >Amy > > > >amy.maestri@nokia.com > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> > Get your FREE credit report with a FREE CreditCheck > Monitoring Service trial > http://us.click.yahoo.com/Gi0tnD/bQ8CAA/ySSFAA/JPJolB/TM > ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > Jonifest2001-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ - -- And this loving is a drawing close, a tuning in, an opening. Until one perfect moment; but how can it be expressed? A receiving, an enfolding as I cradle you in my arms. Within my heart, within my soul, You are my true love. --Lui Collins - --- _~O / /\_, ___/\ /_ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 20:06:33 -0400 From: "jlamadoo, home account" Subject: Joni's new 2 CD project in the works I hope Joni is gonna play some piano during her recording date NEXT MONTH month in London. Much as I love Herbie Hancock's contributions, I also love Joni's piano playing. np: "Let The Wind Carry Me" comes to mind. Oh my! Please play some piano, Joni! Lama Get well, Anne! ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #323 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?