From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #310 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Friday, October 5 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 310 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Today's Articles: October 4 [les@jmdl.com] Re: 40s vs. 60s [FredNow@aol.com] Re: 40s vs. 60s [FredNow@aol.com] Re: More Jonifest Photos [RoseMJoy@aol.com] Re: 40s vs. 60s [Jerry Notaro ] Re: More Jonifest Photos [Jerry Notaro ] Kakki's Story ["Steve Harper" ] Brushes With Greatness [Leslie Mixon ] Re: Brushes With Greatness ["Gerald A. Notaro" ] Your best guess still needed! [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Can help me out here? [=?iso-8859-1?q?David=20Shannon?= ] Re: 40s vs. 60s ["Kakki" ] Re: 40s vs. 60s [Don Rowe ] Re: proposed Joni sighting in London [Gertus@aol.com] hello! [Alison E ] Re: hello! [RoseMJoy@aol.com] Re: hello! [Bruyere ] brush with greatness ["Stephen Epstein" ] RE: hello! ["patrick leader" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 03:11:46 -0400 From: les@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Articles: October 4 On October 4 this article was published: 1998: "The Hissing of a Living Legend" - New York Times (Interview) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/981004nyt.cfm - ------------------------ The JMDL Article Database has 634 titles. http://www.jmdl.com/articles ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 04:09:38 EDT From: FredNow@aol.com Subject: Re: 40s vs. 60s "Stephen Epstein" wrote: >My take of when Joni said "There's lots about the 60's that is not >remembered" refers to the whole drug thing- and then the conversation went >the way of Bird, Fred Neil, Tim Hardin... all in her mind, tremendously >creative souls, but lost, blowing their creativity, except Bird, to the >ravages of drugs. Apparently there's also a lot about the 40s and 50s that's not remembered, either -- Bird died at 37 from the ravages of drugs. - -Fred ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 04:21:57 EDT From: FredNow@aol.com Subject: Re: 40s vs. 60s "Dolphie Bush" writes: >As the younger brother of a sister of the 60's and 13 myself when it ended >I have to say that it is indescribable and you all know what I mean but I >must also say that the 70's was a decade of a hell of a lot of great music, >I don't care what the critics say. The 70s are a much maligned decade, unjustly so. First of all, any decade in which an album like "Hejira" is made is a great decade. Secondly, I defy anyone to name any decade that didn't produce great music of some kind ... someone is always making some great music somehwere. - -Fred Simon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 07:30:08 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: More Jonifest Photos Really some nice photos Pearl! Thank you Kakki :0) Rose in NJ rosemjoy@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 08:47:08 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: 40s vs. 60s Kakki wrote: > Yeah Fred, I can't quite figure it out, either, except that maybe she was > TOO close to a lot of the making of it as it was happening. That, and Joni IS prone to making sweeping remarks. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 09:48:44 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: More Jonifest Photos Kakki wrote: > Pearl has generously sent me some more great Jonifest photos to put on my > Photopoint site! Thanks Pearl! Come see more of the gang at the link below. > Kakki Thanks, Kakki. And Photopoint is so easy to use. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 09:59:30 -0400 From: "Steve Harper" Subject: Kakki's Story Would someone (Kakki? Bob? anybody?) please (pretty please?) repost or send directly to me Kakki's (long, I hope) story about her and Stephen's conversation with Joni? I'm fascinated, but I had deleted the digest before I knew! Thanks! Steve in Atlanta _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 07:09:33 -0700 From: Leslie Mixon Subject: Brushes With Greatness In no particular order, I've had the good fortune to meet: Hank Ballard Bob Weir David Crosby Graham Nash Stephen Stills Neil Young David Grisman Roy Rogers (Delta blues guitarist) B. B. King Albert King C. J. Chenier Joni Mitchell Dan Hicks Hunter S. Thompson John Prine Champion Jack Dupree Joan Baez The Persuasions Pinetop Perkins And of course, all the talented folk at the various JoniFests I've attended. Leslie ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 10:23:06 -0400 From: "Gerald A. Notaro" Subject: Re: Brushes With Greatness I've had quite a few in my lifetime (no Methuselah jokes, Muller) but one that had a profound effect on me was meeting Pete Seeger. I was about 19, very active in social causes and very anti war, and he was a big hero of mine. He came to Buffalo and as was his way, sang for practically free at a local high school auditorium with no fanfare or entourage. I was so in awe of his talent and charisma. He came out afterwards to meet us. I stood in line and had nothing for him to sign, so he signed my hand with a marker. It was there for days. 30 years later, he at 82 years of age and in poor health, showed up to perform for the Museum of American Folk Music benefit in NYC. I was there to see Judy Collins and was so surprised to see him perform. It had a great emotional impact on me that he cared so much to be there. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 08:10:35 -0700 From: "Bill O'Neill" Subject: Celebrity Sightings I've been lurking on the list for a couple of weeks and as a devoted fan of Joni for 34 years I really appreciate the correspondence. For over three decades I've worked in the television industry as camera operator, unit manager, producer, director and other jobs on my way up, down and back up in the "Biz". I worked with many actors, singers, writers, politicians and other celebrity types. In that business the "talent" we worked with were given respect and distance. I never called anyone by their first name unless invited to do so by the talent and asking for autographs was "verbotten". One of the things that a celeb usually traded for fame and fortune was personal privacy and although fans were expected to be "star struck" we in the business couldn't be, shouldn't be. Sometimes, no, many times the talent wanted to be treated just like one of the crew and so we did, but a friendly attitude didn't necessarily invite familiarity. For example, Debbie Reynolds might be familiar with you, even throw her arm around your shoulders, but don't ever try the same with her as a production assistant discovered when Ms Reynolds banished her from the set for assuming they were friends. While I never met Joni Mitchell I did see her in concert once in the mid-1980s. She was great in concert, and yet not very warm to her adoring audience. Seeing and hearing a genius at work was enough for me, I didn't need to feel loved, too. I'm not criticizing fans for acting like fans. Without them the celebs don't have a market and wouldn't be famous..... or working. Working with celebrities was often fun, could be a pain when they were primadonnas, and sometimes a real privilege when I worked with Gene Kelly, Bucky Fuller, Jimmy Stewart, Chuck Yeager, Roddy McDowell and the list goes on. Thanks for the fun here. Back to lurk mode. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 12:16:02 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Your best guess still needed! Don't forget to get your guesses in for your free copy of covers #22...I don't care where you live, all costs are on me! Just tell me a Joni song-album combo... I'll cut the competition off Friday at midnight. Bob NP: Yes, "Close to the Edge" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 17:27:37 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?David=20Shannon?= Subject: Can help me out here? I'm a long-standing Joni fan who's newly joined the list and would dearly love to get a copies of the CD Tree 1 and 2 and the Video Tree 1. Can help me out here? Maybe I have something in my collection to offer in return. With thanks. - -Dave Shannon Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 12:56:17 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: 40s vs. 60s Fred wrote: > The 70s are a much maligned decade, unjustly so. Because some of us were so spoiled by the 60s ;-D just kidding! >First of all, any decade in which an album like "Hejira" is >made is a great decade. My favorite Joni albums were all from the 70s! But it's funny - I think a lot of people don't necessarily think of it from a strictly chronological point, maybe more of an emotional, historical or aural perspective. Like the "60s" music to me is divided into two parts - early 60s was from around 1958 to 1963 and then *the* 60s music which went from around 1964 to 1974! 70s music to my ears was a shorter period - 1974 to 1978, when the 80s music started ;-) 80s music seemed in two parts, too. And so on. Certainly every decade has produced amazing music! It just seemed that in the "60s" so much good stuff blossomed forth at such a prolific rate, AND we got to hear just about most of it all over the radio back then, in stark and dismal contrast to today's Brave New World of Clear Channel and the like. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 13:04:55 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: 40s vs. 60s > and Joni IS prone to making sweeping remarks. And that's what makes her so loveable - she's just like a lot of us ;-D Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 13:21:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Rowe Subject: Re: 40s vs. 60s I think this is all more about where you spend that first freedom of adulthood ... say between 18-28 give or take ... out of the house and on your own, making just enough money to keep the pad month-to-month and the beer cold. Lots of friends, no serious attachments, income tax refunds you could set your watch by, dancing or clubbing, or otherwise late nights filled with flocks of friends, and to one degree or another, indulging in the "harmless recreational substances" (first bourbon & cigarettes, then grass & LSD, then coke, then ecstacy ...)of the day. And the music that's playing during those years becomes the soundtrack of your memory ... be it Glen Miller/Tommy Dorsey, Elvis/Chuck/Chubby/Buddy, The Beatles/Dylan/Doors, Pink Floyd/Eagles/Fleetwood Mac, Prince/Madonna/Michael Jackson ... and since the '60s - -- of course Joni. At least, I think that's why I dig the Joni I do ... along with most of the other stuff in my collection. Of course, I've also just recently returned from my 20th High School Reunion ... where I discovered to my delight that I can still hang out with the best of 'em. So forgive me if the nostalgia here has crossed over into the maudlin! ;-) Don Rowe ===== Visit me anytime at http://www.mp3.com/donrowe NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 17:26:44 EDT From: Gertus@aol.com Subject: Re: proposed Joni sighting in London From: "Raffaele Malanga" Subject: Re: Saturday w/JM- my report "Stephen Epstein" wrote: <> First of all thanks Stephen and Kakki for the wonderful report. For all UK and European listers, this could be our opportunity to get some sort of connection with Joni. Apparently she'll be in London in November, maybe we could hang around some grill or cafe bar waiting for her to turn up. Problem is: there are thousands of cafes in London... Any ideas? Raffaele What we need is a contact in the London Philharmonic Orchestra who can tip us off. I'm working on this but it's a long shot. We mustn't miss this opportunity! Maybe Kakki and Stephen could come over and show us the kind of restaurant Joni would choose. Jacky ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 15:16:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Alison E Subject: hello! hi guys, i just wanted to send a quick note to let you all know that i have a new job! yeeee-hawwww! it was getting kinda scary, as i bought a car and had no idea how i was going to make the payments, hee hee. so, i am now the publicity director for a publishing company here in utah (it's called Gibbs Smith, Publisher) in kaysville, utah, actually. which is just about 20 miles outside of salt lake. not a bad drive, considering i just bought a lovely subaru wagon. so anyway, from madison avenue to the podunk town of kaysville, where (no shit!) sheep graze outside the building. this is a small publishing firm that does mostly interior design and architecture books, but also does a fascinating array of other material on nature, western literature, some fiction, some non-fiction, kid's books and lots more. i am so excited, and lucky, as the economy seems to be falling in the toilet and i was looking into that mickey-d's managing position ;-) anyway, this looks to be a very promising and interesting position with lots of opportunity for growth and learning. i'm very excited. i'll most likely go off digest and be back in the fray again soon. i've missed you all and your near-daily presence in my life! i'm still at alisone4@yahoo.com if anyone wants to get in touch with me. take care, all alison NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 18:34:59 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: hello! In a message dated 10/4/01 6:18:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time, alisone4@yahoo.com writes: > i just wanted to send a quick note to let you all know > that i have a new job! yeeee-hawwww! > it was getting kinda scary, as i bought a car and had > no idea how i was going to make the payments, hee hee. > That's super Ali!!! New car? goin to see greggno tonight with Nikki :0) Miss you terribly rosemjoy@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 22:18:11 -0400 From: Bruyere Subject: Re: hello! Congratulations Alison !!! Best of luck to you! Heather At 03:16 PM 10/4/01 -0700, Alison E wrote: >hi guys, >i just wanted to send a quick note to let you all know >that i have a new job! yeeee-hawwww! >it was getting kinda scary, as i bought a car and had >no idea how i was going to make the payments, hee hee. >so, i am now the publicity director for a publishing >company here in utah (it's called Gibbs Smith, >Publisher) in kaysville, utah, actually. which is just >about 20 miles outside of salt lake. not a bad drive, >considering i just bought a lovely subaru wagon. so >anyway, from madison avenue to the podunk town of >kaysville, where (no shit!) sheep graze outside the >building. this is a small publishing firm that does >mostly interior design and architecture books, but >also does a fascinating array of other material on >nature, western literature, some fiction, some >non-fiction, kid's books and lots more. i am so >excited, and lucky, as the economy seems to be falling >in the toilet and i was looking into that mickey-d's >managing position ;-) >anyway, this looks to be a very promising and >interesting position with lots of opportunity for >growth and learning. i'm very excited. >i'll most likely go off digest and be back in the fray >again soon. i've missed you all and your near-daily >presence in my life! i'm still at alisone4@yahoo.com >if anyone wants to get in touch with me. >take care, all >alison >NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. >http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 00:52:24 -0400 From: "Stephen Epstein" Subject: brush with greatness HI all! I am so amazed at some of the names coming up on this thread- just great! WallyK, am most impressed with yours! Who I have met and chatted to: Eric Clapton in LA David Crosby Her Highness just this past weekend! Graham Nash Huey Lewis John Secada Mark Messier Jim Palmer Emmerson Fittapaldi Karl Lagerfeld Fabio!!! hee hee Jackson Browne Bruce Cockburn Carole Pope Pierre Trudeau Maggie Trudeau- not with Pierre- at a party! Marc Jordan Bridgette Fonda Patty Duke Austin Cicely Tyson Denis Piel- great photographer! Others I have met: Miles Davis- twice Rod Stewart- 3 times- yuck! Richard Avedon Sonny Liston Wayne Newton Louis Armstrong Charlie Watts Joe Clarke The guy from Supertramp- Ray Davis? Davies? waited on him in a store Glenn Clarke- former premier of BC Marc Lalonde, Jim Coutts- Shane content here!- campaigned for them! Bobby Darin- I was only 12! I am sure I am forgetting others- but I must tell you, none comes near the excitement and pleasure of chatting with Ms. Mitchell this past Saturday! love Stephen in Vancovuer NP: Simon and Garfunkle- live @ hollywood bowl- 1968 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 02:44:50 -0400 From: "patrick leader" Subject: RE: hello! congratulations alison, it does seem like you landed on your feet. fantastic! new york misses you though, at least i do. please come back and visit soon... patrick > > >hi guys, >i just wanted to send a quick note to let you all know >that i have a new job! yeeee-hawwww! ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #310 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?