From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #303 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Saturday, September 29 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 303 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Today in Joni History: September 28 [les@jmdl.com] Today's Articles: September 28 [les@jmdl.com] Vince [ReckersL@ebrd.com] re: 10 desert island songs [mintagli@ypf.com.ar] Old MacJoni ["Victor Johnson" ] bob 'n joni ["shane mattison" ] Re: bob 'n joni [Brian Gross ] digest 447 ["joe farrell" ] Non diccia "ciao"! [BigWaltinSF@aol.com] Just one more question ["hell" ] Re: Old MacJoni ["hell" ] Job's (and Ann's) Sad Sorrow (sjc) [BigWaltinSF@aol.com] island songs ["Dolphie Bush" ] they're the kind of mood you're in tonight ["Dolphie Bush" ] PLEASE READ!!!! IMPORTANT!!!!!!! [AsharaJM@aol.com] Edith and the French Fries [BigWaltinSF@aol.com] Re: In the background ["Jamie Zubairi" ] Re: In the background ["hell" ] trouble on the JMDL site? [Murphycopy@aol.com] Re: trouble on the JMDL site? ["Dolphie Bush" ] bob, star trek, and joni (sjc) [Kammass@aol.com] Re: bob, star trek, and joni (sjc) [Kammass@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 03:50:52 -0400 From: les@jmdl.com Subject: Today in Joni History: September 28 On September 28 in Joni Mitchell History: 1968: Joni joins Fairport Convention on the bill of a one-night Festival of Contemporary Song at London's Festival Hall. Jonis first album "Song to a Seagull" is released in the United Kingdom today on Reprise Records. - ------------------------ Search the "Today" database: http://www.jmdl.com/today ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 03:50:52 -0400 From: les@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Articles: September 28 On September 28 these articles were published: 1968: "Joni, The Seagull From Saskatoon" - Melody Maker (Interview, with photographs) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/680928mm.cfm 1998: "Playful Aggression" - Daily Telegraph (Review - Album) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/980928dt.cfm 1998: "Taming the Tiger" - Calgary Sun (Review - Album) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/980928cs.cfm - ------------------------ The JMDL Article Database has 633 titles. http://www.jmdl.com/articles ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 10:45:44 +0100 From: ReckersL@ebrd.com Subject: Vince I am sticking to my resolve not to continue the debate about the points I made a few days ago (I have replied to a few posts off-list, which have hopefully helped to clarify) because the debate becomes endless and meanwhile other people are bored stiff by it all... I thought the viewpoint offered by Jim was very interesting, as I read it I had to agree with much of it - but then I also had to agree with the people who argued back with him (Julius, Kate B, etc) - and that's just great! Best proof of all what a good, thought provoking debate it was, without any offense or egos hurt! This I find the best experience of a list like this: to see there are so many truths, ways of looking at things, and all can be right depending on one's perception, mood, etc... But Paul has managed to make me speak out again strongly about something else. I just want to support fully what Ashara is saying, and I'm so glad she is saying it. It IS indeed downright nasty to say good riddance to Vince, and I am sure the vast majority of us, lurkers included, could not agree. At least not if they have bothered to read Vince's postings for a while. I am saying this as someone who comes from a very religious upbringing but who has grown through the agnostic stage to a purely atheist one. (Not meaning that I am sure there is no god - how could we know, reality is more complex than our brain can grasp - but I don't believe there is a god who cares, who judges us and rewards us or interferes in any way. feel strongly that we must care for each other and do the right thing for the simple reason of being human, not because a god tells us so.) Anyway, I'd never thought I'd be the one to speak up for a vicar, a reverend. I was wary of his title when I first saw it. I don't agree with everything he says, but my goodness, he is a decent human being who tries to get to the truth in the most honest way he can, and he has made a lot of very valid points, and I have acres of respect for him. I saw the message from Debra that upset him, it made me go "what?!!" too, because I thought he had only been counter arguing a broad statement with facts, and I was surprised this comment came from Debra, from what I thought I knew about Debra from her previous writings. Anyway, I thought Vince would defend himself and he and Debra would clarify things and understand each other and no harm done etc... So although I had expected him to react, I was very surprised he reacted in such a hurt way. But I have respect for his hurt. No, it is not someone going off in a huff because someone else disagrees, it is someone being deeply hurt, feeling so misunderstood by someone he thought would understand him. I'm not putting the blame on Debra at all, Vince was probably going through a tough time anyway and as I said I'm sure he and Debra could have sorted that out, as Kakki and I did. But for someone like Paul and others to then put the boot in and turn his hurt into a joke, is cruel and infantile and just unworthy of this list. (And I would have said the same if people had reacted that way if Kakki had decided to leave.) It makes it double as hard for Vince to ever return, and I tell you now: I'd rather have the Reverend Vince on the list than those shallow callous sniggerers who've come out of the woodwork. Ha, now I've done some name calling, and you know what? I'm not sorry, I'm feeling very much better for it! If anyone wants to join me in trying to get Vince to come back, then please do speak up! All the best to you all and have a nice weekend, Lieve. "So.......because "several" people agree with you, it's "OK" to be mean? Subject: Old MacJoni Old Mac Joni had a farm, E I E I O. And on this farm she had a Bob, E I E I O And a jonicover here, and a jonicover there, Here a cover, there a cover, Everywhere a jonicover. Old Mac Joni had a farm, E I E I O. And on this farm she had a Paz, E I E I O And a shrimpy shrimp here, and a shrimpy shrimp there, Here a shrimp, there a shrimp Everywhere a shrimpy shrimp. Old Mac Joni had a farm, E I E I O. And on this farm she had a Hell, E I E I O. And a dingo here, and a dingo there, Here a ding, there a ding, Everywhere a fecking dingo. Old Mac Joni had a farm, E I E I O. And on this farm she had a Paul, E I E I O. A correction here, a correction there. Here a [oops], there a [oops.] Better get this song right! Old Mac Joni had a farm, E I E I O. And on this farm she had a Steve, E I E I O. A ganga line here, a ganga line there, Here a gange, there a gange, Everywhere a ganga line. Old Mac Joni had a farm, E I E I O. And on this farm she had a Kakki. E I E I O. A martini here, a martini there. Here an olive, there an olive, Everywhere martini olives. Old Mac Joni had a farm, E I E I O. And on this farm she had a Jimmy. And a piccolo here, and a piccolo there. Here a lo, there a lo, Too many carrot piccolos. Old Mac Joni had a farm, E I E IO......... Victor in Athens NP: David Sylvian Dead Bees on a Cake Victor Johnson http://www.cdbaby.com/victorjohnson "Velveteen rabbits and moonbeams, Come when you lay down your head. While you are sleeping, they kiss you and tell you, That you are the reason the sun lights the sky." Scarlet-V. Johnson ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 09:57:06 -0600 From: "shane mattison" Subject: bob 'n joni hi... i have a new bob 'n joni page, with a couple of photos of joni and bob together that you might not have seen before... http://www.angelfire.com/art/cactussong/cactusbob.html thanx again to all, shane ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 12:34:30 -0400 From: Brian Gross Subject: Re: bob 'n joni y'know... i saw the subject line and was all psyched to see more pix of bob muller and joni how dissapointing... just that dillon guy ;-) brei, in a slightly rammy mood, eating chinese for lunch (what a surprise!) np: npr shane mattison wrote: > > hi... > i have a new bob 'n joni page, with a couple of photos of joni and bob > together that you might not have seen before... > > http://www.angelfire.com/art/cactussong/cactusbob.html > > thanx again to all, > > shane - -- After twenty-three years you'd think I could find A way to let you know somehow That I want to see your smiling face Forty-five years from now. --Stan Rogers ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 21:10:07 +0100 From: "joe farrell" Subject: digest 447 I seem to have missed out on Digest no 447. Is there any way in which i can get a copy? Cheers, Joe. NP Elvis Costelloe Spike (new remastered double issue) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 16:22:48 EDT From: BigWaltinSF@aol.com Subject: Non diccia "ciao"! Rev Vince, You were one of the first people who wrote back to me when i first joined the list about a month or so ago. You are one of the kindest, most thoughtful people on the list, per my observations. I've only been skimming the political postings on the list lately -- I'm a week behind, and as one person helpfully suggested to me a couple of weeks ago, if reading polotical diatribes stresses me out, don't do it (if thine eye offend thee...), so I've been running through the digests -- but I hope by the time I get to the bottom of my files, you will have decided to return, or decided not to leave. It is unfortunate that some of the people who post to the list take the expression of contrary opinions as personal affronts, and I understand your being hurt at their reactions. But please don't go. Warm regards, walt breen ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 10:46:21 +1200 From: "hell" Subject: Just one more question Further to the "what question would you ask Joni" thread, where I become her new assistant, here's another wee exchange I had with Cindy: Cindy: "Hey! I *sound* boring, but I'm really quite a bit of fun. Can't I talk to her for just one moment, please? I need her to get off her duff and WRITE SOME SONGS!! Thank you. I'll hold....." My reply: "Still holding? Ms. Mitchell regretfully declines to speak to you today, and advises you to call back some other time. She has found her inspiration, and is in the middle of a spectacular portrait of her new assistant (in oils) and will be unavailable for some months. However her back-catalogue is available at every quality music store, and I advise you to listen to Hejira, if you don't yet have it in your collection. Perfection cannot be improved on. Wait.... she's saying something.....oh, no. She was just telling me to hurry back to my seat - my nose is apparently not quite right yet, and her cigarette needs lighting. Goodbye." Anyone else want to "bother" Joni? No? Good. We're busy..... Hell - who was told to send this to the list ____________________________ "To have great poets, there must be great audiences too." - Walt Whitman hell@ihug.co.nz Hell's Personal Photo Page: http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hell/main/personal.htm Visit the NBLs (Natural Born Losers) at: http://www.nbls.co.nz ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 11:10:38 +1200 From: "hell" Subject: Re: Old MacJoni Victor wrote: > Old Mac Joni had a farm, > E I E I O. > And on this farm she had a Hell, > E I E I O. > And a dingo here, and a dingo there, > Here a ding, there a ding, > Everywhere a fecking dingo. Those fecking dingos again! Oh, Victor! ROTFLMAO! This is priceless! Hell ____________________________ "To have great poets, there must be great audiences too." - Walt Whitman hell@ihug.co.nz Hell's Personal Photo Page: http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hell/main/personal.htm Visit the NBLs (Natural Born Losers) at: http://www.nbls.co.nz ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 19:18:52 EDT From: BigWaltinSF@aol.com Subject: Job's (and Ann's) Sad Sorrow (sjc) Hi, Ann, You may have noticed my name on postings starting a few weeks ago when I joined JMDL, but we don't know each other. After I read your posting about finding out you *do* have a tumor after all, I had a flashback of sorts and had to weep a bit and collect my thoughts. In 1994, the head of the non-profit agency I last worked for hired (groan) an "efficiency expert" (quotes intended). Said EI decided that the educational wing of the non-prof was the most wasteful (huh?) and had to be destroyed; first in her sights was me. Suffice it to say that due to the closing ranks of, and support from, my co-workers and boss, it took her a year to get rid of me. I ultimately decided, given my deteriorating health, to go on permanent disability. Five months later, in December '95, I was diagnosed with cancer, a huge tumor; given the fact I had advanced AIDS, I was given about a 10% chance of survival. Obviously, I did survive, as I always have (so far) each time it was suggested that it was curtains for me. I'm sure you're aware of all sorts of "peripheral" things you can do to help your situation, but just in case I thought I'd put my two cents in: (1) Meditation, of whatever kind suits you and your temperament. This broadly includes whatever anyone *else* wants to "meditate" for you. I used to laugh during my illness whenever someone would preface "I'll be praying for you" with an apology for their being religious on the assumption that I wasn't. My response, of course was that I would accept whatever help I could get. And I have no doubt, from my brief membership in this e-family, that everyone here will be pullng for you in whatever form(at) they choose. (2) Music. Given my temperament, I found anger at the illness (and at my seemingly unending bad luck) led me to Job's Sad Sorrow on Joni's then "current" TI. I would groan when she sang "...Why do you make/everything I dread and everything I fear/come true?", and thump the sofa with my fists and weep. I always felt purged afterwards. Obviously, anger is not the best or most helpful response for everyone, but... worked for me. And then I'd listen to Jericho and "open up". (Also helpful for me: lots of Cocteau Twins, Sundays, k.d. lang...but I digress.) Ann, my thoughts and feelings and best wishes to you, Walter "bigwaltinsf" Breen ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 19:58:40 -0500 From: "Dolphie Bush" Subject: island songs company-rickie lee jones judgment of the moon and stars-joni beofre my heart finds out-gene cotton daughter of light-carole king how deep is your love- bee gees i saw a man and he danced with his wife-cher wish we were heroes-missy you oughta be home with me-barry manilow scenes from an italian restaurant-billy joel how much i feel-ambrosia hey baby can you come out tonight-dolly parton oops- that's eleven. couldn't make that final cut mack ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 20:13:09 -0500 From: "Dolphie Bush" Subject: they're the kind of mood you're in tonight a bottle of reds, a bottle of whites I'll meet you anytime you want in our italian restaurant ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 19:30:29 -0600 From: "shane mattison" Subject: congrats! congratulations heather on the birth of your grandson... i have had no kids; i can't imagine what its like, but it must be pretty cool... cheers shane ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 21:32:43 EDT From: AsharaJM@aol.com Subject: PLEASE READ!!!! IMPORTANT!!!!!!! This doesn't have anything to do with Joni, but it is intentionally sent to everyone, and I hope you will continue to read on. Anne Sandstrom, who many of you know, is battling yet another tumor. I was so pleased at the generosity of this list the last time Anne was battling cancer. As many of you remember, I asked for donations of a dollar or two towards purchasing a t-shirt for her at the Both Sides Now Tour, since she had to miss it because of her illness. We raised SO much money, that I presented Anne with every lithograph, every t-shirt, the mug, vest, and whatever else they were selling!!! An amazing group of people you are. I am now asking for much more. I am asking for something much more precious than your money. I am asking for your time. When I read Anne's post yesterday, I thought, "How can we as a community help her once again?" I thought of this: I would get Les to send everyone an e-mail except Anne, like we did before, and ask them to send either a tape or an mp3 of their voice, saying encouraging things to her. Then, I thought, we could put it all together and send it to her with our love and prayers. I spoke to Anne this morning, and we were yakking about how "fecking" awful the whole thing is, and what she was going to do, and when she was having a meeting with the "team" of family, doctors, etc. And we talked some more....... and I offered to take her to doctor's appointments, etc. etc. AND THEN SHE SAID THIS: "I really think I will need to go forward with the operation, even though I dread it, and I was thinking about what could support me the most. I thought that if I could have a CD (or 2 if need be) made of all the people that I care about with their voices saying encouraging things to me while I am "under" during the operation, that is what would help the most. I thought maybe I would ask you to possibly help me with that." ACK!!!!!! I could not, could NOT believe what she just said!!! I lost my voice, I started crying, I literally couldn't talk, except to choke out, "Anne, just give me a second, there is a REASON for me not being able to speak right now." I explained myself so she wouldn't think I was a "complete" nutcase, (although she knows me well, so that didn't really help much!) So......here's the deal: I have no expertise whatsoever in putting tapes or mp3's onto CD's.......but I asked a good friend of mine who has lots and lots of expertise in this field to help me out. Mr. Bob Muller is one of the most generous men I know, and when I asked him to think about it, as I thought it would (hopefully!) be a very time-consuming job, he never hesitated for even a second. Since Anne was very much part of this as per the phone call, I asked for her input as to what she really needed. I post her answer to me in it's entirety: - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ - ------------------- Hi Honey! OK, so here are some ideas if people don't know what to say: "Hi Anne. This is __________________." and then something like any of these, or anything else they can think of: - - I'm waiting for your next post to the list. You're going to be fine. - - I'm here with you. You're doing great. - - Wow, they're healing you. All the cancer is gone! - - I'm here waiting for you. Here's a big hug to make you better. - - This operating room is full of 800 JMDLers! And would you believe nobody's disagreeing with anyone? OK, so I'm lying :-) - - This room is like a fecking JoniFest. Even Ross is humming "The Circle Game." (I have to explain this one. It has to be said with a touch of humor. Ross is the surgeon's first name. The idea of him humming ANYTHING is so funny!) - - There's a healing light in and around your body. It's making us all warm like a fire in the firplace at Bean's house in New Hampshire. - - I can't believe you're smiling. That is so cool! You're making everyone else here smile too. - - This is the best this surgery has ever gone. You're going to heal so quickly! - - And you thought this was going to be hard? This is easier than going to the dentist, isn't it? Hopefully that'll give people ideas. lots and lots of love Anne - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ - -------------- I would like to add to not forget to say your name when you start. (Anne, this is______) So....I am asking for a lot I know, but I know you'll come through, even if you don't know Anne. Please hurry to get these things to Bob, as I'm not sure how soon she will be going in to surgery. Also, technical questions should go directly to Bob. Thanks to ALL of you!!! Bob Muller 309 West Prentiss Ave. Greenville, SC 29605 USA A million hugs, Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 21:40:38 EDT From: BigWaltinSF@aol.com Subject: Edith and the French Fries Hi, all, I was at McDonalds (comfort food, guilty pleasure -- now you all know) when amongst all the top-20 pop musack, what should I hear but Edith and The Kingpin. At McDonalds?!?!? Don't know who chooses what's played on these playlists, but I always assumed they were chosen on the basis of sales or something like that. Which led me to wonder: Was Edith released as a single from HoSL? I seem to remember In France They Kiss On Main Street was, but I don't remember what else was. And I wondered if Edith was among the songs JM mentioned in that Billboard article to appear on the (hopefully soon to be renamed) Swan Song? Got home and checked -- it wasn't -- and I know there's already a nice version also on S&L -- but wouldn't it be a good candidate? But then, if she recorded all the songs I like on the upcoming album, it would have to be a boxed set. :-) Joni at McDonalds, when I was having a bad day. Thank you, powers that be. walt ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 02:59:43 +0100 From: "Jamie Zubairi" Subject: Re: In the background I was re-listening to Blue last night, it was very late, I should have been asleep long before this but I was in a dire need of listening to this. I never realised fully the backing vocal for Carey. The melodies are absolutely brilliant and so sweet! Especially the last "I'll put on my FINEST silver". Just makes you want to run up to her and give her a HUG y'know. I love listening to her own backing vocals, she's more experimental with them then when she brings people in, in my opinion. The harmonies and harmonic lines she composes, not your average 1-3-5, if you know what I mean. In Last Chance Lost (sorry Sue!), those 'last chance....LAAAAAST chance LOST's are quite brilliant. I know this message might have taken a while and I have been offline for a while, as we hadn't paid our phone bill (oh the joy of shared accommodation!) but I'm still here in London, watching the news, hoping that everyone is ok, getting the odd message from my ex in New York about how strange it is, and how sad it is, and how beautiful people are in New York, where she lives. I'm glad everyone is ok, (I've been sneak-reading my emails while online at work). - ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Waddell > I'm having an afternoon of self indulgence to self ... just before I leave > the beautiful US of A. Listening to a ton of ... > I love Joni's back harmonies. > From > Woodstock > To > Off Night Back Street > She does such a great back up for herself so oft. Favourite back up? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 14:10:16 +1200 From: "hell" Subject: Re: In the background Willy (originally) wrote: > > I'm having an afternoon of self indulgence to self ... just before I leave > > the beautiful US of A. Listening to a ton of ... > > I love Joni's back harmonies. > > From > > Woodstock > > To > > Off Night Back Street > > She does such a great back up for herself so oft. Favourite back up? I must have missed this the first time round, shame on me! But I'm glad Jamie replied. My favourite (at the moment) is the harmony/counter on Night In The City. It's such a happy song. Of course Stills' bass is wonderful too. She must have said to him, "Just do whatever you want, and make it interesting." One of my favourite songs. Hell ____________________________ "To have great poets, there must be great audiences too." - Walt Whitman hell@ihug.co.nz Hell's Personal Photo Page: http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hell/main/personal.htm Visit the NBLs (Natural Born Losers) at: http://www.nbls.co.nz ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 23:16:25 EDT From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: trouble on the JMDL site? Here's the message I get when I try to access the JMDL site. (A little boidy from Joisey told me.) I've never seen anything like this before: - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Error Occurred While Processing Request Error Diagnostic Information ODBC Error Code = IM002 (Data source not found and no default driver specified) [Microsoft][ODBC Driver Manager] Data source 'USERDATA' not found and no default driver specified Hint: In order to use ODBC data sources with Cold Fusion you must create the data source using the Data Sources page of the Cold Fusion Administrator. In addition, if you are running under Windows NT you must make sure that the Data Source is created as a System DSN in order for it to be available to ColdFusion. The error occurred while processing an element with a general identifier of (CFQUERY), occupying document position (1:1) to (1:51). Date/Time: 09/28/01 23:14:31 Browser: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 4.01; AOL 5.0; Mac_PPC) Remote Address: 205.188.209.12 - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 22:22:46 -0500 From: "Dolphie Bush" Subject: Re: trouble on the JMDL site? Yea, I got it too Murph. Mack - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 10:16 PM Subject: trouble on the JMDL site? > Here's the message I get when I try to access the JMDL site. (A little boidy > from Joisey told me.) I've never seen anything like this before: > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Error Occurred While Processing Request > > Error Diagnostic Information > > ODBC Error Code = IM002 (Data source not found and no default driver > specified) > [Microsoft][ODBC Driver Manager] Data source 'USERDATA' not found and no > default driver specified > Hint: In order to use ODBC data sources with Cold Fusion you must create the > data source using the Data Sources page of the Cold Fusion Administrator. In > addition, if you are running under Windows NT you must make sure that the > Data Source is created as a System DSN in order for it to be available to > ColdFusion. > The error occurred while processing an element with a general identifier of > (CFQUERY), occupying document position (1:1) to (1:51). > Date/Time: 09/28/01 23:14:31 > Browser: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 4.01; AOL 5.0; Mac_PPC) > Remote Address: 205.188.209.12 > > - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 23:57:35 EDT From: RobSher50@aol.com Subject: A question of "Kleins" (jc) Hi everyone, I was watching a special (probably "Behind the Music") and there was a man talking who was identified as Bob (?) Klein, president of Reprise records. To me, he looked a lot liked Larry Klein. This one is for you music industry insiders. Could this man possibly be related to Larry Klein, Joni's ex? (Do you think he'd give me a record deal? ha-ha!) Does anybody have the inside scoop as to whether he is a relative of Larry's? Sherelle ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 21:25:58 -0700 From: Leslie Mixon Subject: State of the JMDL & Paradox of Our Time (LONG) "...Sometimes it's easy You drift with the empty gladness Like it all belongs Sometimes it's low down sadness Like it's all gone so wrong When I saw you standing there I said to myself M-m-m here's a place I could break down and care..." Lately it appears that the list is "breaking down..." Please allow me to post a quote from George Carlin: The Paradox of Our Time by George Carlin The paradox of our time in history is that we have taller buildings but shorter tempers; wider freeways, but narrower viewpoints. We spend more, but have less; we buy more but enjoy less. We have bigger houses and smaller families, more conveniences, but less time; we have more degrees, but less sense; more knowledge, but less judgment; more experts, yet more problems, more medicine, but less wellness. We drink too much, smoke too much, spend too recklessly, laugh too little, drive too fast, get too angry, stay up too late, get up too tired, read too little, watch TV too much, and pray too seldom. We have multiplied our possessions, but reduced our values. We talk too much, love too seldom, and hate too often. We've learned how to make a living, but not a life, we've added years to life not life to years. We've been all the way to the moon and back, but have trouble crossing the street to meet a new neighbor. We conquered outer space but not inner space. We've done larger things, but not better things. We've cleaned up the air, but polluted the soul. We've conquered the atom, but not our prejudice. We write more, but learn less. We plan more, but accomplish less. We've learned to rush, but not to wait. We build more computers to hold more information to produce more copies than ever, but we communicate less and less. These are the times of fast foods and slow digestion; big men and small character; steep profits and shallow relationships. These are the days of two incomes but more divorce, fancier houses but broken homes. These are days of quick trips, disposable diapers, throw-away morality, one-night stands, overweight bodies, and pills that do everything from cheer to quiet, to kill. It is a time when there is much in the show window and nothing in the stockroom. A time when technology can bring this letter to you, and a time when you can choose either to share this insight, or to just hit delete. Remember, spend some time with your loved ones, because they are not going to be around forever. Remember, say a kind word to someone who looks up to you in awe, because that little person soon will grow up and leave your side. Remember, to give a warm hug to the one next to you, because that is the only treasure you can give with your heart and it doesn't cost a cent. Remember, to say "I Love you" to your partner and your loved ones, but most of all mean it. A kiss and an embrace will mend hurt when it comes from deep inside of you. Remember to hold hands and cherish the moment for someday that person will not be there again. Give time to Love, give time to speak, give time to share the precious Thoughts in your mind. To all my friends in my life, thanks for being there! Leslie Mixon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 00:27:56 EDT From: RobSher50@aol.com Subject: To Anne Dear Anne, To me, you still are a walking miracle. You have taught me what it means to truly "live." You have shown tremendous bravery and courage and you have done so with a pleasant heart. Everyday that you are here is a blessing to us. So keep fighting and know that we are all so grateful to know you and to be a part of your life. Keep fighting and lean on us. We love you. Sherelle ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 23:15:30 -0600 From: "shane mattison" Subject: other starry nights "don't it always seem to go" would sound at the end of the transporter room joystick... "we are stardust, we are golden" would play in the next generation bar... ryker a big joni fan getting drunk and wishing... dr crusher would worry with ryker always in the virtual reality jazz joint, playing his sax with jaco and herbie and pat and lyle and... course he'd be dancing with a virtual joni when the real joni walks in! then he'd blush...blush...blush... and bones mccoy would say "dammit jim, i'm not a magician...just an old joni fan!" "i'm your off-night backstreet" would sultrily play as kirk zips up his boot ... 'course all these guys would be in love with joni... half the gals too... but joni would only be in love with one guy....spock! "fascinating", he would say...."but its not very logical" and she would set up her music in his quarters and, turning on all her charm, including "a case of you" and see how emotional and illogical she got him! and painting the great globs of nebula clusters sending the Enterprise into warp drive.... and beaming down to paris with picard, sampling puilly fuisse and french bread in their berets... getting ready for the evenings' vulcan mind-meld' when spock can't stand her absence anymore... "paint a starry night again, man..." shane ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 01:04:55 EDT From: Kammass@aol.com Subject: bob, star trek, and joni (sjc) ok bob how about tar trek and joni? kammy in alabammy ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 01:08:22 EDT From: Kammass@aol.com Subject: Re: bob, star trek, and joni (sjc) Star Trek...oops kammy ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #303 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?