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onlyJMDL Digest      Friday, September 21 2001      Volume 2001 : Number 294



The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be
found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news,
a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more.

The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains
interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more.
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TOPICS and authors in this Digest:
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  Today's Articles: September 20                               [les@jmdl.com]
  LOTC Boots                                 ["Ron Greer" <GreerR@rav.co.za>]
  Don Freed                                  [James Leahy <jamesl@total.net>]
  Re:  Mark E's description of flowers etc. at Seattle Center  [BigWaltinSF@]
  Re: JMDL Digest V2001 #423                                [RPWieloh@cs.com]
  and the painted ponies bite your hands VLJC  ["Blair Fraipont" <donjuansrd]
  Why meeeeeeeee?   WHY NOT ME!!!  ["Bree Mcdonough" <bree_mcdonough@hotmail]
  Re: Why meeeeeeeee?   WHY NOT ME!!!    [Nuriel Tobias <nuriel@wowmail.com>]
  Re: Why meeeeeeeee?   WHY NOT ME!!!  [Brian Gross <briangross@rocketmail.c]
  Re: Why meeeeeeeee?   WHY NOT ME!!!     ["Kakki" <KakkiB@worldnet.att.net>]
  Re: Why meeeeeeeee?   WHY NOT ME!!!                    [<philipf@tinet.ie>]
  Re: Why meeeeeeeee?   WHY NOT ME!!!                       [AzeemAK@aol.com]
  Re: Why meeeeeeeee?   WHY NOT ME!!!     ["Kakki" <KakkiB@worldnet.att.net>]
  Re: Why meeeeeeeee?   WHY NOT ME!!!                       [AzeemAK@aol.com]
  "Refuge of the Roads" question, 100% JC  ["jlamadoo, home account" <jlamad]

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Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 03:21:28 -0400
From: les@jmdl.com
Subject: Today's Articles: September 20

On September 20 these articles were published:

1979: "Joni Mitchell: A Reaffirmation" - Los Angeles Commerce Tribune
    (Review - Concert) 
    http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/790920lact.cfm

1998: "Ani DiFranco Chats With the Iconic Joni Mitchell" - Los Angeles Times
    (Interview) 
    http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/980920lat.cfm

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The JMDL Article Database has 633 titles.
http://www.jmdl.com/articles

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Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 13:47:46 +0200
From: "Ron Greer" <GreerR@rav.co.za>
Subject: LOTC Boots

Hi




        <<general discussion re LOTC boots>>
        <<It didn't borrow from several albums from the period, it just threw out the original art and mixed the order up.  >>
        <<Same as that other bootleg called "Ghosts", which features the LOTC songs in a different order. Like it's some kind of "Alternate LOTC" or something...>>


here in sa there is another one of those going round. it is called "big yellow taxi" and has the lotc tracks rearranged, and some very dubious sound quality. but at least the cover is slightly better, it has a photo of joni, with a kind of a pukey yellow background.

it sells at around half the price of the real lotc, and i have seen it a most of the major music store.

the package indicates that it originates from spain.

& something for the bill gates conspiracy theorists - try the following

                type  Q33NY (must be uppercase)

                make it large 

                change the font to "wingdings"

 

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

ron





 

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Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 07:52:33 -0500
From: James Leahy <jamesl@total.net>
Subject: Don Freed

Saw a lovely documentary on Donald Freed on the CBC's National news
program a couple of weeks ago. The program showed Freed teaching
songwriting to Native Canadian children in a Saskatchewan school. The
children were encouraged to create songs out of their own culture and experiences.

Freed's dedication impressed me. He talked about how unsatisfying it was
to work as a soloist in clubs and folk festivals and about how his own
'ego' had no place in his work with the Native kids. (There was no
mention of Her Blondness.)

Several of the songs the children wrote are being recorded and will be
released on CD later this year. The CBC may have something about this on
their website at cbc.ca.

Jim

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Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 14:18:29 EDT
From: BigWaltinSF@aol.com
Subject: Re:  Mark E's description of flowers etc. at Seattle Center

Yeah, this sort of scene is being repeated all over the US.  Whever something 
big happens, there is an informal "Instant Memorial" site at the corner of 
Castro and 18th here in SF (i.e., lgbt central).  Flowers, baloons, cards, 
posters, etc.  Nice that the B of A always lets it go on -- it's on their 
property, not public property.

Walt

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Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 16:16:24 EDT
From: RPWieloh@cs.com
Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2001 #423

In a message dated 9/20/01 3:15:33 AM Eastern Daylight Time, les@jmdl.com 
writes:

<< diquintevans@hotmail.com >>
Diane,resopndig off-list,if you don't mind.Yes,you are correct all parents 
feel as you do including us with 2 of our 3 children leaving the downtrodden 
mid east and looking for adventure and opportunity in palaces like the 
Pacific northwest and the romance and outdoors of Wyoming. After education's 
were completed they were compelled to follow our enlightened view of the 
future and peruse a life that we had nurtured because of what we had 
instilled in the way of exposing our family to the vast outdoors and the 
"spirit of youth".I'll bet you can associate with some of this. The dichotomy 
of raising children today is at best knowing they are showing and independent 
spirit and love for life we gave but now wish we could provide protection and 
nurturing. Any thoughts?  Sincerely, Rich Wieloh  

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Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 17:10:18 -0400
From: "Blair Fraipont" <donjuansrd80@hotmail.com>
Subject: and the painted ponies bite your hands VLJC

       Bob, What a great memory. You know, one thing I have not experienced 
yet is Love or any fragment of it... I am 21 and have never had a girlfriend 
nor a boyfriend in my life and it sort of worries me, I see ignorant people 
walk down the street and they are holding hand in hand with their loved 
ones... WHy not me? I guess it will come when it comes..  Maybe I am too 
picky. Nonthelles,, I am just glad that MY father didnt try to have a 
conversation like that with me!! :)  But another thing, so much of Joni's 
music deals with LOVE and the like.. It really shows how good her music is, 
cause even though I cannot relate to most of it, It moves me. "A Case of 
You" almost brings me to tears as it does to many on this list.. but when 
you come down to it.. I have NO reason to be crying...
     Funny
BLAIR

NP: "StoneD soul PIcnic" Laura Nyro

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Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 16:18:55 -0700
From: "Bree Mcdonough" <bree_mcdonough@hotmail.com>
Subject: Why meeeeeeeee?   WHY NOT ME!!!

Let's see, in this community of ours there are 800 or so.  This is pretty 
sobering, but....we are not immune folks.  Several of us will die in a car 
crash, several couples will divorce,  several of are children will drown, 
several of us will die of cancer, several of our lovers will say: SEE YA! I 
can't stand you any more, several of us will develop dementia, several of us 
will live out our lives bound in a wheelchair, several of us will die of 
Aids, several of us will commit sucicide, several of us will die of heart 
attacks, several of will develop MS, several of us will die in are sleep, 
complications of diabetes will kill several of us......on and on etc.. 
etc....

(several of us ALMOST died in the WTC attack)

What does the aforementioned have to do with any recent posts?  Nothing and 
everything.  Several people chided me after reading my last post thinking it 
was, for lack of a better word, too bombastic.  I had said in the post "we 
have to get them before they get us again....BLOW THEM UP!!!"  I don't want 
any innocent person to die in the upcoming war (I always wanted Santa Claus 
to be real too and for that matter the tooth fairy) but innocent people will 
die.  That is the way of the world and will be the way.... until the very 
end of this world as we know it.

Nothing more I would love would be UTOPIA here and now.  Ain't happening 
folks! NOT NOW!!

Thank God for JMDL
I hope you will all understand

Bree



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Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 16:52:42 -0700 (PDT)
From: Nuriel Tobias <nuriel@wowmail.com>
Subject: Re: Why meeeeeeeee?   WHY NOT ME!!!

Why do i have to read this sick email on the joni mitchell list?!


- --- "Bree Mcdonough" <bree_mcdonough@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>Let's see, in this community of ours there are 800 or so.  This is pretty 
>sobering, but....we are not immune folks.  Several of us will die in a car 
>crash, several couples will divorce,  several of are children will drown, 
>several of us will die of cancer, several of our lovers will say: SEE YA! I 
>can't stand you any more, several of us will develop dementia, several of us 
>will live out our lives bound in a wheelchair, several of us will die of 
>Aids, several of us will commit sucicide, several of us will die of heart 
>attacks, several of will develop MS, several of us will die in are sleep, 
>complications of diabetes will kill several of us......on and on etc.. 
>etc....
>
>(several of us ALMOST died in the WTC attack)
>
>What does the aforementioned have to do with any recent posts?  Nothing and 
>everything.  Several people chided me after reading my last post thinking it 
>was, for lack of a better word, too bombastic.  I had said in the post "we 
>have to get them before they get us again....BLOW THEM UP!!!"  I don't want 
>any innocent person to die in the upcoming war (I always wanted Santa Claus 
>to be real too and for that matter the tooth fairy) but innocent people will 
>die.  That is the way of the world and will be the way.... until the very 
>end of this world as we know it.
>
>Nothing more I would love would be UTOPIA here and now.  Ain't happening 
>folks! NOT NOW!!
>
>Thank God for JMDL
>I hope you will all understand
>
>Bree
>
>
>
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Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 20:34:07 -0400
From: Brian Gross <briangross@rocketmail.com>
Subject: Re: Why meeeeeeeee?   WHY NOT ME!!!

May I humbly suggest you take a trip to the smoe.org archives and read
some of the shite that a certain lister (ahem) posted from his mother's
email account some months ago?

I think you owe Bree an apology, IMHO

	Brei

Nuriel Tobias wrote:
> 
> Why do i have to read this sick email on the joni mitchell list?!

np: NPR

- -- 
After twenty-three years you'd think I could find
A way to let you know somehow
That I want to see your smiling face
Forty-five years from now.

  --Stan Rogers

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Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 17:29:04 -0700
From: "Kakki" <KakkiB@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: Why meeeeeeeee?   WHY NOT ME!!!

Thank you Brian.

> May I humbly suggest you take a trip to the smoe.org archives and read
> some of the shite that a certain lister (ahem) posted from his mother's
> email account some months ago?
> 
> I think you owe Bree an apology, IMHO
> 
> Brei
> 
> Nuriel Tobias wrote:
> > 
> > Why do i have to read this sick email on the joni mitchell list?!
> 
> np: NPR
> 
> -- 
> After twenty-three years you'd think I could find
> A way to let you know somehow
> That I want to see your smiling face
> Forty-five years from now.
> 
>   --Stan Rogers

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Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 01:51:04 +0100
From: <philipf@tinet.ie>
Subject: Re: Why meeeeeeeee?   WHY NOT ME!!!

Something to do with bombers turning into butterflies I suspect.

Philip


> May I humbly suggest you take a trip to the smoe.org archives and read
> some of the shite that a certain lister (ahem) posted from his mother's
> email account some months ago?
> 
> I think you owe Bree an apology, IMHO
> 
> Brei
> 
> Nuriel Tobias wrote:
> > 
> > Why do i have to read this sick email on the joni mitchell list?!
> 
> np: NPR
> 
> -- 
> After twenty-three years you'd think I could find
> A way to let you know somehow
> That I want to see your smiling face
> Forty-five years from now.
> 
>   --Stan Rogers

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Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 20:56:40 EDT
From: AzeemAK@aol.com
Subject: Re: Why meeeeeeeee?   WHY NOT ME!!!

In a message dated 21/09/01 01:37:58 GMT Daylight Time, 
briangross@rocketmail.com writes:

<< May I humbly suggest you take a trip to the smoe.org archives and read
 some of the shite that a certain lister (ahem) posted from his mother's
 email account some months ago?
 
 I think you owe Bree an apology, IMHO
  >>

I have no idea what you mean by this, Brian; but for the record, and for what 
it's worth, I have to agree with Nuriel, I found Bree's post pretty repellent.

Azeem

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Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 17:48:12 -0700
From: "Kakki" <KakkiB@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: Why meeeeeeeee?   WHY NOT ME!!!

Azeem,

I don't think this is a debate over Bree's post.  Go read the archives
suggested by Brian.  The content cannot be repeated here.

Kakki

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Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 21:09:56 EDT
From: AzeemAK@aol.com
Subject: Re: Why meeeeeeeee?   WHY NOT ME!!!

It isn't a debate about anything as far as I'm concerned, Kakki.  I expressed 
ignorance at what Brian's post was getting at, and stated that I agreed with 
Nuriel's distaste at Bree's post.

Azeem

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Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 00:55:43 -0400
From: "jlamadoo, home account" <jlamadoo@fuse.net>
Subject: "Refuge of the Roads" question, 100% JC

Hello Richard,

Ah, yes, the 60 minute, out-of-print "Refuge Of The Roads" video.  I don't
know if it was ever available on Laser Disk but the VHS Hi-Fi is
out-of-print.

14 songs performed by the rocking-est band she ever put together (with all
the good and bad things that suggests).

Edited by Norm Levy & Joni Mitchell.  Mixed by Larry Hirsch, Joni Mitchell &
Larry Klein.  Directed by Joni Mitchell.

My favorite version so far of "Chinese Cafe" (if you don't count JMDL
powered versions).

Humor.  "Found" video from the mind of a wonderfully literate visual artist.

Available for blanks and postage, as a stereo dub on USA style VHS from a
factory-made VHS Hi-Fi issue.  Write me off-list.

Lama

ps, Naturally, this offer will be withdrawn if we ever have an opportunity
to purchase a DVD.

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