From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #291 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Tuesday, September 18 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 291 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Subject: Indeed, something to think about ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: Subject: Indeed, something to think about ["Kakki" ] Re: Something to smile about [IVPAUL42@aol.com] hello and thanks to everyone... [Alison E ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 18:19:56 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Subject: Indeed, something to think about Joseph, I hope you will stick around & talk to us if it helps you...I know how you feel. I don't want to do anything but grieve either. Not yet. I don't really expect to ever feel completely healed from this. As we were out & about yesterday, looking at all the flags half mast, I told my husband that I didn't think we should raise them up for a long long long long time. And I am not a flag person. I would rather have an "earth" flag to display.... Also I don't want to fly either. We have plane plane reservations in about a month but plan to drive instead. Also this week I had planned to fly to visit family half way across the US which is too far to drive right now. Forget those plans. I use to love to fly but lately have not enjoyed it AT ALL. Now I am not sure I ever want to do it again. Joseph wrote "Forgive me, I don't post often, nor do I have the time to read posts often, but I do so when I can...I don't have the least bit of desire to be in my office conducting business as usual. I don't want to fly; I don't want to take the subway; I don't want to do much else other than grieve." ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics www.polysonics.com Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 21:46:54 EDT From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: Subject: Indeed, something to think about In a message dated 9/17/01 9:40:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time, kate@katebennett.com writes: > ...I know > how you feel. I don't want to do anything but grieve either. Not yet. I > don't really expect to ever feel completely healed from this. > > As we were out & about yesterday, looking at all the flags half mast, I told > my husband that I didn't think we should raise them up for a long long long > long time. And I am not a flag person. I would rather have an "earth" flag > to display.... > > Also I don't want to fly either. We have plane reservations in about a > month but plan to drive instead. Also this week I had planned to fly to > visit family half way across the US which is too far to drive right now. > Forget those plans. I use to love to fly but lately have not enjoyed it AT > ALL. Now I am not sure I ever want to do it again. > > Kate and everyone, Grieving is appropriate for about as long as they are still digging out the bodies, but soon you and I, we all, must snap out of it, raise the flags to full-staff and get on with our lives. If we let the terrorists affect us permanently; if we let them change the way we live; if we let them thrust us into a deep wallow of misery and grief, then we let them win. I, for one, do not intend to let them win. I hope that the rest of you will not continue to wallow for much longer. The sooner we return to our way of life; the sooner we show that we cannot be driven down so easily, the better. Soon it will be time to find something to smile about. Start getting ready. Paul I ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 19:07:56 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE: Subject: Indeed, something to think about Paul, i think i understand what you are trying to say but you misunderstand me... i have already gotten on with my life, i have smiled & laughed & cracked jokes as often as i have cried lately... but i will always grieve this tragedy...always... there is no "appropriate time for grieving" ... its no one's business to tell another how to feel ... we are all made of different stuff ...btw your sentence re: wallowing offends me greatly.... ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics www.polysonics.com Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** Kate and everyone, Grieving is appropriate for about as long as they are still digging out the bodies, but soon you and I, we all, must snap out of it, raise the flags to full-staff and get on with our lives. If we let the terrorists affect us permanently; if we let them change the way we live; if we let them thrust us into a deep wallow of misery and grief, then we let them win. I, for one, do not intend to let them win. I hope that the rest of you will not continue to wallow for much longer. The sooner we return to our way of life; the sooner we show that we cannot be driven down so easily, the better. Soon it will be time to find something to smile about. Start getting ready. Paul I ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 22:37:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: RE: backlash towards muslims I hope and pray that these incidents against Muslims, or Arabs, or whatever, are isolated ones only - this type of thing is done by ignorant and cowardly people who use any opportunity to commit violence against others. There was a fire in a Hindu temple here in southern Ontario over the weekend. At the time I read about it, they didn't know the cause but were "hoping" it wasn't deliberate. If it was deliberate, and done by someone as a backlash against this terrorist act, then it would be typical of this kind of goon not to even know the difference between a Hindu and a Muslim, which would kind of prove my point - any excuse to be a racist goon. If it was deliberate, I hope they nail whoever did it big time. Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 20:16:37 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Subject: Indeed, something to think about Kate, I'm with you. However long it takes...... Kakki > but i will always grieve this tragedy...always... > > there is no "appropriate time for grieving" ... its no one's >business to tell another how to feel ... we are all made of >different stuff ...btw your sentence re: wallowing offends >me greatly.... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 00:42:09 EDT From: AsharaJM@aol.com Subject: Something to smile about Paul I wrote: <> Well bless my buttons, Paul, you have written a post I actually agree with!! (Mostly) However, I do feel that grieving is an individual thing, and people must take the time they need to do whatever they need to do to heal, however long it takes. For me, I was in a complete melt-down for 3 days. I couldn't function at all, barely able to give the kids Cheerios for dinner. I cried until I thought there were no more tears left. Then I picked myself up by the bootstraps, and decided that I WOULD NOT let these terroists get the best of me. I wrote checks to the Red Cross, the Firefighters Association, and the United Way of New York. I called to find out when I could give blood, since I knew they had an abundance of donated blood already. I lit candles, prayed for peace, and decided "not" to cancel my flight to Boulder this Thursday for Parent's weekend. I also did something VERY cool that I fervently hope will bring a great light into this community, and will be something WONDERFUL to look forward to. It is a little too soon to say, but as soon as I possibly can, I will let you in on the scoop. In the meantime, as Paul has said: < > Hugs, Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 07:50:29 +0200 From: "Mike Pritchard" Subject: Re: blame the jews part 3 Mack said >Those people WERE CELEBRATING that > thousands of Americans had just been blown >to bits. The point is that these people were NOT celebrating that thousands of Americans were blown up. These images, I believe, were filmed in 1991, 10 years before the WTC/Pentagon bombs. Did I not say this? >Furthermore, whatever CNN's motives and >we have no idea what they are... Exactly, we have no idea what CNN's motives were but they certainly don't seem to be Anti-Zionist. (I don't mind receiving mail off-list, no problem Mack). Mike in Barcelona. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 02:01:12 EDT From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: Something to smile about In a message dated 9/18/01 12:42:58 AM Eastern Daylight Time, AsharaJM@aol.com writes: > I also did something VERY cool that I fervently hope will bring a great > light > into this community, and will be something WONDERFUL to look forward to. It > is a little too soon to say, but as soon as I possibly can, I will let you > in > on the scoop. In the meantime, as Paul has said: > > I know it will be a wonderful thing and am eager to hear the scoop. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 23:56:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Alison E Subject: hello and thanks to everyone... hello and love to all... i just wanted to check in briefly and let you know that i have arrived safely in salt lake city, utah. i have been at the computer for about 3 hours filing through the seven hundred plus emails...yahoo cut me off on wednesday (the 12th) for being way over the memory limit, so if you tried to email me in the past week i did not recieve it. i want to say thank you to everyone who called and emailed to make sure i was ok...it is such a moving and powerful thing to know that people are thinking of you. words do not begin to describe the joy that i feel being back with my family, especially at this time. i am on my way back from the emotional exhaustion and physical exhaustion of driving across the country, of having left my city in rubble and pain, at not being able to share in the healing process of my friends and fellow new york city dwellers. i'll try to put together a more coherent and thought out post, but for now, thank you all again. in love and peace, alison e. in *slc* np: silence. __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? 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