From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #288 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Sunday, September 16 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 288 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Joni Mentions... [Evan + Vanessa Thomson ] Re: St Pauls [colin ] [none] [pyramus@lineone.net] Re: St Pauls [Mags ] music as a tribute [Yael Harlap ] Re: music as a tribute [Mags ] Auden [Yael Harlap ] Re: Joni Mentions... [RoseMJoy@aol.com] From Getmusic.com and Nuriel [Nuriel ] From Getmusic.com and Nuriel [Nuriel ] joni videos here [Nuriel Tobias ] Re: in shock/And TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERNS::::: [=?iso-8859-1?Q?Helga_L=F6l] Re: From Getmusic.com and Nuriel ["Mark or Travis" ] Re: Some good news [RobSher50@aol.com] Jonifest, 2001 and 1/2 [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Jonifest, 2001 and 1/2 ["Kakki" ] Re: the forwarded article about how wonderful americans are [Kate ] What would joni say ["marianne marianne" ] Take a look at my online photos! [rosemjoy@aol.com] Re: St Pauls [Catherine McKay ] ** JONI RERELEASES WITH BONUS TRACKS SOON!! ** 100% JC ["jlamadoo, home a] ** ALL NEW RELEASE TO BE A 2-CD SET ** 100% JC, short ["jlamadoo, home ac] Re: the forwarded article about how wonderful americans are [Catherine Mc] Re: ** ALL NEW RELEASE TO BE A 2-CD SET ** 100% JC, short [Janet Hess Subject: Joni Mentions... The poor Joni Only People must be starving for mail! Recently "Tool" toured Australia and Maynard did a Top 5 on one of our radio stations... Choice Number 2: Joni Mitchell He played "Black Crow" and said he loved the "Hejira' album... then pretty much anything of Joni's. Also that week, there was interview with John Howard (our Prime Minister) and he also was quoted to say he like Joni Mitchell, Bob Dylan etc. I do admit, liking the same artist as him doesn't exactly thrill me... I'm not a fan - let alone I don't ever vote for his party!! He's just such an ineffectual man - even you Americans can't get his name right. LOL! I meant to let you all when it did happen but I was waiting for Joni Synchronisity to kick in and there would be a Number 3. Alas, there wasn't. This is my meagre contribution to the Joni Content people have been craving... Vanessa. N.P. My children screaming. Ahhh... the sweet sounds of burst eardrums. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 10:38:42 +0100 From: colin Subject: Re: St Pauls The silence involved evrybody-traffic stopping, people in the streets stopped and hunga heads etc. Moving. Catherine McKay wrote: > We had three minutes' silence today too. I'm not sure > if that was just Toronto, or the province of Ontario, > or the whole country. It was at 12:20 p.m. EST - i > don't know why they came up with that time. I haven't > been reading the newspapers or watching TV at all > since this happened. I shut the door to my office and > closed my eyes and concentrated on healing. > > --- colin wrote: > > Right now there is a Service of Rememberance going > > on in St Paul's > > Cathedral. > > There was a countrywide 3 mins silence at 11am. > > > > ROI have closed all there shops, schools and > > business for the whole day. > > > > The 3 mins silence was Europe wide. > Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca - -- bw colin DAK,BRO GC, 950i 940,860,864, 260, 890,Silver 830 and 270, Passap 6000 Duo80 colin@tantra-apso.com http://www.tantra-apso.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 10:58:13 +0100 From: pyramus@lineone.net Subject: [none] Anne wrote <> Great news Anne. Kevin ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 06:59:38 -0400 From: Mags Subject: Re: St Pauls During my lunch break yesterday, I was sitting outside to catch some air from the aftermath of this week and when I was finished, walked up through one of the side buildings. I saw everyone huddled together in the front, in a little hallway ... and at first it scared me...there was absolute silence. I looked at the front door to see a hand made sign "three minutes silence" and that was all it took to open up the well of tears for me. Yesterday, our PM Jean Chretien declared a national day of mourning, the fourth in our entire history. American flags are flying everywhere, including hanging in the windows of Fortinos where we do groceries. The solidarity is so moving. The open support of our American neighbours is encouraging. I continue to pray for peace and for that peace to find its way into the hearts of our Joni family as well. Catherine, I know what you mean about the sound of planes or any noises. We've heard things that resemble gun shots here and it has been so stressful. I drive down the street and when stopped at the lights, I notice tall buildings. I try to imagine. Then I realize I can never fully imagine. When I see the images on the front page of the newspaper in colour, it confirms that. I look inside and see a black and white image of a young firefighter in full gear, covered in soot , a tender portrait of him with eyes closed, head leaning on hand, asleep. Resting . It broke my heart. That picture said so much. And then there are the images of ground zero. Terrifying. The overwhelming images still cannot find their way inside me to a place of believing this really happened. It sickens me to know that it is all true. Im so sorry we are all facing this. I must say how touched and grateful I am to everyone for writing and sharing their experiences . I have learned so much from you. the road is long. love, Mags. Catherine McKay wrote: > We had three minutes' silence today too. I'm not sure > if that was just Toronto, or the province of Ontario, > or the whole country. It was at 12:20 p.m. EST - i > don't know why they came up with that time. I haven't > been reading the newspapers or watching TV at all > since this happened. I shut the door to my office and > closed my eyes and concentrated on healing. > > --- colin wrote: > > Right now there is a Service of Rememberance going > > on in St Paul's > > Cathedral. > > There was a countrywide 3 mins silence at 11am. > > > > ROI have closed all there shops, schools and > > business for the whole day. > > > > The 3 mins silence was Europe wide. > Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca - -- And this loving is a drawing close, a tuning in, an opening. Until one perfect moment; but how can it be expressed? A receiving, an enfolding as I cradle you in my arms. Within my heart, within my soul, You are my true love. --Lui Collins - --- _~O / /\_, ___/\ /_ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 09:11:31 -0400 From: Yael Harlap Subject: music as a tribute This is from an article on what radio stations have been playing as a tribute: >KCRW in the Los Angeles area, home to "Morning Becomes Eclectic" and the >syndicated "Sounds Eclectic" shows, dedicated its airwaves to news >coverage until Friday morning, when music director Nic Harcourt hosted a >special show. > > > >Harcourt played songs such as Jeff Buckley's "Hallelujah," Simon and >Garfunkel's "America" and Joni Mitchell's "Come in from the Cold" on the >show, an hour of which can be heard on the station's Web site >(www.kcrw.com). > > > >"During this day of remembrance and national prayer," Harcourt said, "I >felt it was important to program music that reflected the emotions and >feelings many of us have experienced during the last week, music that >could express sympathy, sorrow, strength and hope. It is my belief that >music can help us heal." ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 09:17:46 -0400 From: Mags Subject: Re: music as a tribute I was listening to the CBC yesterday morning at work and lost it when they played Barber's Adagio for strings. Truly beautiful and mournful piece. Quite appropriate. Music does help. It truly does. Even my Mimi has found solace in Joni. And the seasons they go round and round. love, Mags. Yael Harlap wrote: > This is from an article on what radio stations have been playing as a tribute: > > >KCRW in the Los Angeles area, home to "Morning Becomes Eclectic" and the > >syndicated "Sounds Eclectic" shows, dedicated its airwaves to news > >coverage until Friday morning, when music director Nic Harcourt hosted a > >special show. > > > > > > > >Harcourt played songs such as Jeff Buckley's "Hallelujah," Simon and > >Garfunkel's "America" and Joni Mitchell's "Come in from the Cold" on the > >show, an hour of which can be heard on the station's Web site > >(www.kcrw.com). > > > > > > > >"During this day of remembrance and national prayer," Harcourt said, "I > >felt it was important to program music that reflected the emotions and > >feelings many of us have experienced during the last week, music that > >could express sympathy, sorrow, strength and hope. It is my belief that > >music can help us heal." - -- And this loving is a drawing close, a tuning in, an opening. Until one perfect moment; but how can it be expressed? A receiving, an enfolding as I cradle you in my arms. Within my heart, within my soul, You are my true love. --Lui Collins - --- _~O / /\_, ___/\ /_ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 09:28:05 -0400 From: Yael Harlap Subject: Auden Good morning, everyone... I keep finding things in people's posts that bring me to tears - yesterday Kay's, this morning, Patrick's. Last night I heard an airplane and just sort of STOPPED for a moment, wondering where it was going. A friend sent me this poem by Auden, which is a little long, but very apropos. love to all, Yael on the dawn of WWII, Auden wrote this poem: September 1, 1939 W.H. Auden I sit in one of the dives On Fifty-second Street Uncertain and afraid As the clever hopes expire Of a low dishonest decade: Waves of anger and fear Circulate over the bright And darkened lands of the earth, Obsessing our private lives; The unmentionable odour of death Offends the September night. Accurate scholarship can Unearth the whole offence From Luther until now That has driven a culture mad, Find what occurred at Linz, What huge imago made A psychopathic god: I and the public know What all schoolchildren learn, Those to whom evil is done Do evil in return. Exiled Thucydides knew All that a speech can say About Democracy, And what dictators do, The elderly rubbish they talk To an apathetic grave; Analysed all in his book, The enlightenment driven away, The habit-forming pain, Mismanagement and grief: We must suffer them all again. Into this neutral air Where blind skyscrapers use Their full height to proclaim The strength of Collective Man, Each language pours its vain Competitive excuse: But who can live for long In an euphoric dream; Out of the mirror they stare, Imperialism's face And the international wrong. Faces along the bar Cling to their average day: The lights must never go out, The music must always play, All the conventions conspire To make this fort assume The furniture of home; Lest we should see where we are, Lost in a haunted wood, Children afraid of the night Who have never been happy or good. The windiest militant trash Important Persons shout Is not so crude as our wish: What mad Nijinsky wrote About Diaghilev Is true of the normal heart; For the error bred in the bone Of each woman and each man Craves what it cannot have, Not universal love But to be loved alone. From the conservative dark Into the ethical life The dense commuters come, Repeating their morning vow; 'I will be true to the wife, I'll concentrate more on my work,' And helpless governors wake To resume their compulsory game: Who can release them now, Who can reach the dead, Who can speak for the dumb? All I have is a voice To undo the folded lie, The romantic lie in the brain Of the sensual man-in-the-street And the lie of Authority Whose buildings grope the sky: There is no such thing as the State And no one exists alone; Hunger allows no choice To the citizen or the police; We must love one another or die. Defenseless under the night Our world in stupor lies; Yet, dotted everywhere, Ironic points of light Flash out wherever the Just Exchange their messages: May I, composed like them Of Eros and of dust, Beleaguered by the same Negation and despair, Show an affirming flame. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 10:12:31 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni Mentions... In a message dated 9/15/01 4:30:10 AM Eastern Daylight Time, evanessa@mira.net writes: > The poor Joni Only People must be starving for mail! > > LOL Vanessa, Hey Joni Only people. Your fellow Joni digest and list Jimdles love you. I think that love is going to suck Joni back our way. Lets hope that her Yang force takes precedence and she puts aside those box of paints for a while. There is hope. Rose rosemjoy@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: 15 Sep 2001 15:02:17 -0000 From: Nuriel Subject: From Getmusic.com and Nuriel Nuriel thought you would be interested in this: http://www.getmusic.com/newmedia/search?launchUrl=/newmedia/player?oid=993145685756 Your friend's message: enjoy... http://www.getmusic.com/ ------------------------------ Date: 15 Sep 2001 15:10:12 -0000 From: Nuriel Subject: From Getmusic.com and Nuriel Nuriel thought you would be interested in this: http://www.getmusic.com/newmedia/search?launchUrl=/newmedia/player?oid=993145686570 Your friend's message: enjoy#2 http://www.getmusic.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 08:23:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: joni videos here if you want to see the joni videos i sent (2 other mails, sent before) use the link - and please press real video when you get there and then push play. enjoy, Nuriel _____________________________________________________________ Free email, web pages, news, entertainment, weather and MORE! Check out -------------------------------> http://wowmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 19:25:40 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Helga_L=F6ltgen?= Subject: Re: in shock/And TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERNS::::: Dear Wally, my beloved one, and dear Ashara, our LADY, it was so good to listen to your friendly voice(s) - then -, and I enjoyed many of the Joni-Fest-messages down the JMDL - then. And last Tuesday - watching that horror scenario on German tv -, some friend phoned and asked me: What do you think, what do you feel? And I answered: I cannot and I do not want to talk about IT- that insanity. And even days later - avoiding endless discussions (at work) about: How do you feel? Who is guilty, who is to blame? - I am speechless - in a way. I feel for those who have to cope with this tragedy, to endure the loss of loved ones - the real horror. If patriotism means sticking together, trying to help, simply being there for one another - then I4m all for it, but patriotism leading to hatred and revenge, watching CNN4s coverage: The New War, I AM LOST, I feel so helpless. Is there only one to blame ... Bin Laden? Is he the GUILTY ONE? Who is going to suffer - (again)? Killing innocent human beings (in Afghanistan) as some sort of revenge? And is another world war - the third one - REALLY THE FULFILLMENT OF NOSTRADAMUS4 Words, I read down the JMDL? And is it a SIGN of the times to react right now? Or is it the everlasting truth of that novel, Nathan der Weise, the novel of the German poet: Gotthold Ephraim Lessing, he wrote in the 18th century - about the 3 world religions: The three believes - or the three great stimulants: Tbe Jewish, the Islamic and the Christian? Although they have so much in common - they all reveal the signs and catastrophies of monotheism? Way back - (1945) one chapter of world history closed its pages: never - ever - , and years later - shortly afterwards - Israel and the Palestenians, they started another (a new page?) page of history? AND WHO WAS AND WHO IS TO BLAME? Them or the (former) occupants? AND NOW, here we go again, WHO IS GUILTY??????????????? Some form/sort of religion? POLITICS? Really I do not know, but, give me (whoever/whatever) strength to carry on! And is it my naive believe - THAT -at least and at last- we are all human beings, living on this planet, believing in whatever, LET US BE TOLERANT? Yes, it4s hard, thank you all - especially here, there and everywhere - down the JMDL - for all your comfort: Yes, you are one of a kind....! There are some of you I4d simply like to hug, Love and PEACE - HELGA (and of course - please forgive a German trying to put down some English - yes, if there was one language, we would understand each other, wouldn4t we)?!!!!!!!!! Love - Wally, Ashara, Colin, Garret, Alison, Catherine, Rose, Karin, John van T., Brian, Steve from the isle of sky, and to those, I forgot to mention YOU ARE SPECIAL ). but I like AND I do love all of you - in a way. AND LET US KEEP CALM! - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wally Kairuz" To: Cc: Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 9:04 PM Subject: in shock > i am speechless. please, be safe and let us know how and where you all are. > i have cancelled all my appointments for the day to be able to follow the > news. > all my love and support, > wallyK ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 10:38:04 -0700 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: From Getmusic.com and Nuriel > Your friend's message: > enjoy... I just watched the video for 'Fiction', courtesy of Nuriel. I was enjoying it, thinking 'this is really a damn good song' and then as the video drew toward the end, I remembered the last line. Fiction of the coward Fiction of the hero Fiction of the monuments Reduced to zero..... Maybe she really is Nostradamus reincarnated.... Mark E ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 15:03:57 EDT From: RobSher50@aol.com Subject: Re: Some good news Anne! What tremendous news! I just wanted to take a moment and tell you how happy I am for you! In the face of all this tragedy, what a ray of hope and sunshine! Sherelle In a message dated 09/14/2001 1:39:18 PM Pacific Daylight Time, les@jmdl.com writes: > Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 12:48:11 -0400 > From: Anne Sandstrom > Subject: some good news (njc) > > It is a week of tragedy and a week of miracles. > > I met with the surgeon this morning. According to the latest CT scan, the > growth they've been seeing on previous scans has disappeared! It means that > the drug I've been taking could finally be working to shrink and even get > rid of the tumor. Next, they'll be doing an MRI to get another view, just to > be sure. Maybe not quite a miracle, but I'll take it! > > I can't say it enough. Thank you for all your thoughts and prayers. We're > not done, but this is one battle at least we're winning. > > lots (and lots) of love > Anne ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 15:54:10 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Jonifest, 2001 and 1/2 Sometimes the best antidote for tough times is to hang with a JMDL'er. So it was with great joy that I welcomed Victor who came up to visit with me last night. He was on his way to Lake Hartwell from his new abode in Athens, GA, and came up early for a visit. We went to our favorite nearby pizza joint and had a yummy Greek Vegetarian pizza, and a couple pitchers of Killian's. Then it was back to my house where Victor entertained my wife and me with some music. Valerie is a Nick Drake fan, so she really liked Victor's Drake songs, and I commented that Victor had the ability to channel the spirit of whoever he was playing. When she gave me a look like I was nuts, I just said "Victor, play some Neil Young", and Victor proceeded to play "Old Man", "Needle and the Damage Done", & "After The Gold Rush". Tremendous set, and my wife was in disbelief! She said it was like having Neil in our living room. The musical highlight for me was that I was the FIRST to hear Victor's newest song, "Parsonage Lane", about Jonifest. He shared the lyrics here not too long ago. A very pretty song, I commented that the chords sounded a lot like Joni's "A Melody In Your Name",which Victor had never heard, so we listened to a little Joni, played some more, and called it a night. Victor woke up early, looking for something in my home to play; the microwave, cooking utensils, etc. So to divert him, I made us a big breakfast and we spent a relaxing morning listening to Joni covers. Victor said that I converted him! Cool! He then took off and headed for the lake. Ashara, I don't see why you make such a big to-do over throwing these Jonifests. Nothing to it! :~D Thanks to Victor for being a great guest and filling our house with music and his gentle spirit. it was a nice way to wind down the week. Love & Peace to you all from sunny SC, Bob NP: Tom Waits, "In Between Love" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 12:47:01 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Jonifest, 2001 and 1/2 Bob, Wish I could have been there! It's hard only getting to hear Victor in person perhaps once a year! Lucky you to have been the first to hear "Parsonage Lane." I knew it would be gorgeous! When you mentioned the pizza place, I thought of the one I was at in Greenville (near the Holiday Inn Express) during one of the big hurricanes back in around '95 ;-) Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 15:37:23 -0500 From: Kate Subject: Re: the forwarded article about how wonderful americans are Just thought you might like to know that that article posted here was written by Canadian Gordon Sinclair back in the '70s. Mr. Sinclair was well known as a crotchety character with plenty to say and not shy about saying it. Irascible might be a good adjective for describing him. He called a spade a spade. I don't know what he would be saying if he were alive to observe the last 20 years of American foreign policy and interference. (I don't know a lot about that, but from the little I do know, I don't think we can be so surprised that Americans have been attacked by terrorists.) **** Here in Canada, I would venture to say everyone is feeling this horrific event on a level similar to what Americans are feeling. I have just sent a donation to the Red Cross relief fund and will give blood for the first time ever (I am afraid of needles) on Wednesday when there is a clinic in my little town. I cry when I watch the news, and the first thing I think of when I wake up in the morning is what has happened to all those people and their families and friends. Far away as it is from Alberta, I cannot help but be deeply affected. I guess the fucking pricks who did this are proud of themselves. They must be spiritless. For me, this is also a wake-up call, a reminder that physical life is neither safe nor forever and I need to make this event count in my own life somehow by effecting a change in how I live it. I may need to actively work for peace and tolerance rather than just living it in my personal life. I need to focus on my spiritual enlightenment before it is too late to do so and make any difference. I also feel an intense gratitude to those people who are in New York and Washington right now doing the rescue work. They are, to my mind, doing me a personal favour by putting themselves through that hell -- which is exactly what it must be, for them. They are doing what I wish I could be there doing, taking some of the load in a physical way. I feel so helpless and so, so sad. Kate (du Nord) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 15:59:20 -0700 From: Leslie Mixon Subject: Swinging Chick Was a "Dog Eat Dog" songbook ever published? I am looking for a copy if anyone has any info on where I can find one. While searching for the songbook I came across this page: http://www.swinginchicks.com/joni_mitchell.htm That's our Joni, a swinging chick of the '60s... Leslie ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 20:50:33 -0400 From: "marianne marianne" Subject: What would joni say About the New York City tragedy. . . What do you think Joni would think, what do you think Joni would say? I think her response would be along the lines that. . . there must be justice, but let's not make the same mistake the terrorists made and let's be sure not to hurt innocent people. We have a system in our government. . . putting people on trial. Isn't this justice? If we are going to find these people, can't we put them on trial? justice does not = violence "An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind." Martin Luther king Jr. "Out of Balance out of hand. . . Restitution-what good can it do" (Lakota) Peace and Love to you. Marianne Rizzo "billion year old carbon. . ." from upstate NY Rochester _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 17:59:55 -0700 (PDT) From: rosemjoy@aol.com Subject: Take a look at my online photos! I created an album of some photos I took today at Washington Rock State Park in Greenbrook, NJ. The strategic location of Washington Rock made it a valuable lookout point during the American Revolution for General George Washington in June of 1777 when the British army under General William Howe was moving toward Westfield. From the vantage point of this natural rock outcropping, General Washington had a thirty-mile panoramic view of the valley and was able to instruct his troops to circle behind Howes troops and cut off their retreat. Hey New York, New Jersey hears you man! It's easy to view my new photo album. 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That > picture said so much. And then there are the images > of > ground zero. Terrifying. The overwhelming images > still > cannot find their way inside me to a place of > believing > this really happened. There were several images in today's paper (yes, I read the paper today) that really got to me. One was a photo essay in the Globe and Mail - http://www.theglobeandmail.com/special/attack/ then click over on the right bar under the photo of the firefighters, where it says "click here for photo essay." They are all very touching, but the one that hit me most was the photograph of the young woman standing on the street looking totally confused and terrified. The Toronto Star also had a photo essay but most touching - most to the bone - were photos of people confirmed dead. People young and old, male and female, people of all colours: http://thestar.ca/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?GXHC_gx_session_id_=2a2cd4b146d6e2a6&pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1000505000970&call_page=TS_World&call_pageid=968332188854&call_pagepath=News/World and, Queen Elizabeth, wiping a tear from her eye. I don't think we've ever seen the queen cry in public before, not that I remember. > I must say how touched and grateful I am to everyone > for > writing and sharing their experiences . I have > learned so > much from you. > > > the road is long. > I agree. You who were there need to talk about it. We who weren't there but who are frightened just the same, need to hear about it. It's part of the healing process and it's going to be a long process. In my mind, I'm hearing a song sung by Holly Cole, but I'm not sure who wrote it. The words go like this: Cry if you want to I won't tell you not to I won't try to cheer you up I'll just be here if you want me It's no use in keeping a stiff upper lip You can weep, you can sleep, you can loosen your grip You can frown, you can drown, or go down with the ship You can cry if you want to Don't ever apologize venting your pain It's something to me you don't need to explain I don't need to know why, I don't think it's insane You can cry if you want to The windows are closed,the neighbours aren't home If it's better with me than to do it alone I'll draw all the curtains and unplug the phone You can cry if you want to You can stare at the ceiling and tear at your hair Swallow your feelings and stagger and swear You can show things and throw things and I wouldn't care You can cry if you want to I won't make fun of you, I won't tell anyone And I won't analyze what you do or you should have done I won't advise you to go and have fun You can cry if you want to Well, it's empty and ugly and terribly sad I can't feel what you feel, but I know it feels bad I know that it's real and it makes you so mad You could cry Cry if you want to, I won't tell you not to I won't try to cheer you up I'll just be here if you want me to be near you. NP holly Cole - Cry (I had to go fetch the CD in order to remember the words.) Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 23:42:26 -0400 From: "jlamadoo, home account" Subject: ** JONI RERELEASES WITH BONUS TRACKS SOON!! ** 100% JC I may have missed this but JJ has posted a link to an interview in Billboard Magazine. Go to www.jonimitchell.com and read up. You'll thank me. Woo Hoo! Lama np: VHS concert by the Indigo Girls ($5.95 USD in the second hand store. Hell yah!) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 23:45:17 -0400 From: "jlamadoo, home account" Subject: ** ALL NEW RELEASE TO BE A 2-CD SET ** 100% JC, short HOLD THE PRESSES!!!! Lamadoo ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 23:46:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: the forwarded article about how wonderful americans are - --- Kate wrote: > > I also feel an intense gratitude to those people who > are in New York and > Washington right now doing the rescue work. They > are, to my mind, doing > me a personal favour by putting themselves through > that hell -- which is > exactly what it must be, for them. They are doing > what I wish I could be > there doing, taking some of the load in a physical > way. > > I feel so helpless and so, so sad. > Same here. It's at times like these (what times like these? Nothing like this has ever happened - here in North America anyway. The world for that matter. there have been natural disasters - hurricanes, earthquakes, foods. There have been unnatural disasters - bombings, suicide raids, but this... It's at *this* time, I wish I had done something useful and practical, like going into medicine or nursing, so there would be something real and practical I could do to help. I overheard a couple of people talking in the elevator on Friday - one was asking the other if she thought she would be going to New York. I work for the ministry of health, so there are a lot of health professionals who work there. This lady was a nurse. Our provincial government has asked anyone with a background in counselling or whatever if they want to volunteer to help out in grief counselling or whatever, should the need arise, to go to New York, or elsewhere to help out in this. I wish I could do that. Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 01:24:49 -0400 From: Janet Hess Subject: Re: ** ALL NEW RELEASE TO BE A 2-CD SET ** 100% JC, short Yeah: twenty-four Joni songs, no less. And I can hardly wait until the re-issue including vintage Joni singing "It's All Over Now, Baby Blue." My goodness, now that "Urge for Going" was finally made available, is *everything* possible? Thanks for the pointer to the article. So nice to have some news that's a bit gentler than some of the other news. Cheerz, Janet and Deanna, who woke up to demand another Fishy treat before flopping into a ball on the love seat yet again At 11:45 PM 9/15/2001 -0400, you wrote: >HOLD THE PRESSES!!!! > >Lamadoo - -------------- You've got to shake your fists at lightning now You've got to roar like forest fire You've got to spread your light like blazes All across the sky Joni Mitchell ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #288 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?