From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #286 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Saturday, September 15 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 286 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Today in Joni History: September 14 [les@jmdl.com] Today's Articles: September 14 [les@jmdl.com] Fwd: Fw: Americans Show Unity Against Terrorism - Friday, Sept. 14,20 01 [Kammass@aol.co] Early Sept 11 [dsk ] St Pauls [colin ] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #285 [StDoherty@aol.com] Let music soothe your soul [RobSher50@aol.com] Re: Goodbye [RobSher50@aol.com] Re: Goodbye [Rusty10113@aol.com] Re: Let music soothe your soul [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: list and email ["Diane Evans" ] Re: Let music soothe your soul [RoseMJoy@aol.com] Re: Yang Energy [Rusty10113@aol.com] Re: Yang Energy ["Brenda J. Walker" ] A message ["Sharon L. Buffington" ] We Are an AWESOME Community!!!!! [AsharaJM@aol.com] Re: We Are an AWESOME Community!!!!! [RoseMJoy@aol.com] The service on tv this morning.... ["Kate Bennett" ] peoples parties (sjc) ["shane mattison" ] Joni says hi [nuriel@wowmail.com] Joni's smoking (live version) [nuriel@wowmail.com] Sorry folks - here's the smoke [nuriel@wowmail.com] Re: St Pauls [Catherine McKay ] RE: peoples parties (sjc) ["Kate Bennett" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 03:07:34 -0400 From: les@jmdl.com Subject: Today in Joni History: September 14 On September 14 in Joni Mitchell History: 1974: Joni performs at Wembley Stadium in Wembley, England. Others performing at this same event - attended by 72,000 people - were CSN&Y, Jesse Colin Young and The Band. More info: http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/740921s.cfm http://www.jmdl.com/today/740914.cfm 1979: Joni performs at the Greek Theater in Los Angeles. A few days later, the LA Commerce Tribune publishes a review of the concert entitled "Joni Mitchell: A Reaffirmation". "Backed by an outstanding four-piece jazz unit, Mitchell gave the sold-out house one of the musical highlights of the summer as she skated ever the various stages of her career in a 90- minute performance that reaffirmed her position as one of the finest singer-songwriters in the business." More info: http://www.jonimitchell.com/LACommerce79.html - ------------------------ Search the "Today" database: http://www.jmdl.com/today ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 03:07:34 -0400 From: les@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Articles: September 14 On September 14 this article was published: 2000: "Joni Mitchell, the homecoming queen" - Toronto Globe and Mail (News Item) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/000914tgam.cfm - ------------------------ The JMDL Article Database has 633 titles. http://www.jmdl.com/articles ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 04:28:12 EDT From: Kammass@aol.com Subject: Fwd: Fw: Americans Show Unity Against Terrorism - Friday, Sept. 14,20 01 In a message dated 9/13/2001 9:36:19 PM Central Daylight Time, DorstenFamily writes: > > >> A democratic, peaceful message >> >> >> Friday Night at 7:00 p.m. step out your door, stop your car, or step out of >> your establishment and light a candle. We will show the world that >> Americans are strong and united together against terrorism. Please pass >> this >> to everyone on your e-mail list. We need to reach everyone across the >> United >> States quickly. The message: WE STAND UNITED - WE WILL NOT TOLERATE >> TERRORISM! >> >> Thank you. >> >> We need press to cover this - we need the world to see. Return-path: From: DorstenFamily@aol.com Full-name: DorstenFamily Message-ID: Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 22:36:19 EDT Subject: Fwd: Fw: Americans Show Unity Against Terrorism - Friday, Sept. 14,20 01 To: Kammass@aol.com, elya1@home.com, luvpoohsnurse@home.com, MTBANGEL@aol.com, FrickFamily1@aol.com, recover001@earthlink.net, Mags949319@aol.com, JimTarwater@yahoo.com, SGray@onecam.com, Mbasjgs@aol.com, DREXWELCH@aol.com, JVega@edgenet.com, SeanR127@bellsouth.net, sbjshill@home.com, JoshandCandace@earthlink.net, klneal@atl.mediaone.net, RichieM@diebold.com, ESeiler@home.com, Johns32b4@yahoo.com, WVWTJW@aol.com, Spiveyland@cs.com, Coolrun@prodigy.net, Jodpdd@aol.com, scott@mhjob.com, 2love@myself.com, MJJR1@Yahoo.com, clwelding@home.com, mwalters@usthq.com, RKStricklin@aol.com, sigmon@bellsouth.net, kennk@laureatecap.com, DorstenFamily@aol.com, andrea_rein@hotmail.com, scottconsulting@worldnet.att.net, CThor63858@aol.com, ejt3@charter.net, itchmt@home.com, DrThornton@home.com, TThorn8375@aol.com, LBWeimar@yahoo.com, BKWilliams@charter.net, kfwyatt@dellepro.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10536 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/mixed by demime 0.97c X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Return-path: From: PurdueKappa@aol.com Full-name: PurdueKappa Message-ID: <133.1845b1e.28d26c5e@aol.com> Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 16:09:02 EDT Subject: Fwd: Fw: Americans Show Unity Against Terrorism - Friday, Sept. 14,20 01 To: DorstenFamily@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10536 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/mixed by demime 0.97c X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Return-path: From: NGBROOKS@aol.com Full-name: NG BROOKS Message-ID: <54.1acf5c63.28d240ca@aol.com> Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 13:03:06 EDT Subject: Fwd: Fw: Americans Show Unity Against Terrorism - Friday, Sept. 14,20 01 To: Brett.Holladay@Columbia.net, JBURKEDO@aol.com, serenacc@wans.net, donnaho@gacs.pvt.k12.ga.us, DHolla7658@aol.com, GAYLEHOLLADAY@JUNO.COM, Fred.Holladay@nfib.org, GUY_BROOKS@MEDSTAT.COM, kholladay@stokesbartholomew.com, RHolladay@asurion.com, JANAPNP@aol.com, Krister.Holladay@mail.house.gov, lflatt@usit.net, mknorto@nortelnetworks.com, edpuff@mindspring.com, Saraross@aol.com, PurdueKappa@aol.com, amyv@wcs.edu, iowakaren@myrealbox.com, Cgwiller@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10536 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/mixed by demime 0.97c X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was multipart/alternative In a message dated 9/13/01 11:23:51 AM Central Daylight Time, jennifer@brooksandassoc.com writes: > A democratic, peaceful message > > > Friday Night at 7:00 p.m. step out your door, stop your car, or step out of > your establishment and light a candle. We will show the world that > Americans are strong and united together against terrorism. Please pass > this > to everyone on your e-mail list. We need to reach everyone across the > United > States quickly. The message: WE STAND UNITED - WE WILL NOT TOLERATE > TERRORISM! > > Thank you. > > We need press to cover this - we need the world to see. Return-Path: Received: from rly-zd02.mx.aol.com (rly-zd02.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.226]) by air-zd02.mail.aol.com (v80.17) with ESMTP id MAILINZD25-0913122350; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 12:23:50 -0400 Received: from pilate.telalink.net (pilate.telalink.net [207.152.1.18]) by rly-zd02.mx.aol.com (v80.21) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINZD29-0913122248; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 12:22:48 -0400 Received: from mail.telalink.net (death.telalink.net [207.152.1.12]) by pilate.telalink.net (8.9.1/10.00v-fbmx-blkspam) with ESMTP id KAA23662; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 10:07:02 -0500 X-Envelope-To: cradles01@aol.com Received: from ([207.234.96.232]) by mail1.telalink.net (MTA-v4.9.1/0.0a-fbmx) with SMTP id QAA29527; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 16:31:51 GMT Message-ID: <00bb01c13c6c$3c1f3fe0$e860eacf@brooksandassoc.com> From: "Jennifer Brooks" To: "Jane Zubulake" , , "Corinne Wright" , "Maureen Wilde" , "Randolph Whiteside" , "Cyndee Whitaker" , "Steve and Kristy Wells" , "Brenda Vogt" , "Celeste Viola" , "Mike Thompson" , "Tricia Thiessen" , "Todd Thiessen" , "Judy Thiessen" , "Gary Thiessen" , "Emmett and Judy Thiessen" , "Ben Thiessen" , "Billy Thaw" , "Mary Tate" , "Lori Sweet" , "Kathy Sullivan" , "Eddie Stephens" , "Louise Stark" , "Connie Spivey" , "Tim and Debby Smith" , "Mitch and Velvet Simmons" , , "Robin Schwing" , "Marion Schreiner" , "Linda Sandifer" <110740.3344@compuserve.com>, , "anna ritter" , "Monique Richards" , "Monique Richards" , "Maureen Reynolds" , "Mary Jo Reynolds" , "Martha Reynolds" , "Margaret Reynolds" , "Lanie Reynolds" , "Lanie Reynolds" , "James Reynolds" , "Ed Reynolds" , , "Reed, Susan" , "Jackie Ray" , "Wendy Randall" , "Donna Radford" , "Jamie Potter" , "Peggy Plummer" , "Kellie Plummer" , "Stacey Pitts" , "Scarlett Pierce" , "Marie Patton" , "Jane Osumi" , "Adrianne Ohrt" , "Amy Nelson" , "Audrey Morris" , , "Tom Millea" , "Mom Millea" , "Meghan Millea" , "James Millea" , "Michael McNulty" , "Sara Lee McLindon" , "Mary Grace McGowan" , "Carrie McCarthy" , "Joe Mayne" , "Rogie Mayhew" , , , "Delisa Locke" , "Leisa Lacroix" , , "Hilda Krueger" , "Reese Klepacz" , "Jennifer Kitchens" , "Brandon Killebrew" , "Maura Kelley" , "Beth Keith" , "Sharon Kardokus" , "Carolyn Jones" , "Carmen Johnson" , , "Gretchen Jackson" , "Lynn Isaac" , "Anna Irby" , "Fred and Ken Howell" , "Winnie Holmes" , "Beth Holmes" , "Andy Holmes" , "Terry Harrison" , "Maxine Hargrove" , "Rory Hall" , "Darlene Greer" , "darlene Greer \(work\)" , , "Kelley Graham" , "Angela Farmer" , "Chris Emerick" , "Chris Emerick" , "Jean Duncan" , "Chrissy Douglas" , , "Davis, Ken \(ICP\)" , "Ken Davis" , "Cradles and Crayons" , "Cook, Will" , "Lori Coady" , , "Clunan, Elizabeth" , , "June Christian" , "Chris Childress" , , "Randy Cates" , , "Leigh Anne Brown" , "Guy and Nikki Brooks" , "Guy Brooks" , "Dee Brooks" , "Brooks" , "Mary Brandis" , "Georgia Boone" , , "Carla Bjork" , "Birch, Timothy" , "Chris Besand" , "Elisa Berry" , "Mary Bernard" , "Cheryl Beck" , "Arrowhead Realty" , "Renee Arnold" , "Paula Arnold" , "Angie" , "Allen, Matt" , "kimberlie allen" Subject: Fw: Americans Show Unity Against Terrorism - Friday, Sept. 14,20 01 Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 10:53:02 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 0.97c X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain FW: Americans Show Unity Against Terrorism - Friday, Sept. 14,20 01A democratic, peaceful message Friday Night at 7:00 p.m. step out your door, stop your car, or step out of your establishment and light a candle. We will show the world that Americans are strong and united together against terrorism. Please pass this to everyone on your e-mail list. We need to reach everyone across the United States quickly. The message: WE STAND UNITED - WE WILL NOT TOLERATE TERRORISM! Thank you. We need press to cover this - we need the world to see. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 05:16:51 -0400 From: dsk Subject: Early Sept 11 The messages that Patrick and Kay sent both mentioned the feeling of having no safe place, of being at war. How true! From what people are saying, it's something people throughout the country felt. A new sensation for us. I've already sent the story of my walk home. For anyone who's interested in another personal account of that day, here's what the first part of that day was like for me: On Tuesday morning I was working on the 20th floor of a major international financial firm (a good target?) a few blocks from the World Trade Center. I had a project to do that involved figuring out how to fit ten boxes of information and arrows across a page as the banker wanted and still be able to read anything. It was one of those "this has to be done another way; what is he really trying to get across here?" projects. I was listening to John Cale sing Hallelujah on my portable cd player, listening to it over and over, his voice and the piano. Typical day. A few people in the room had radios and had been listening through headphones and they told us about the first plane hitting. We didn't have a view of the towers and no TV. John Cale was put away so I could hear everything. The first plane was perhaps an accident. I pictured a little two-seater that went off-course. Very sad I thought; I'm sure some lives are lost. The second one and finding out how big a plane it was changed it instantly into great danger for us all. It was obviously terrorism and if they had hit there they could hit anywhere. Already, blocks away, papers were flying around outside our windows. People called anyone they knew at the WTC. Someone called our coworkers at One Liberty Plaza, at the foot of the towers, and there was no answer so the assumption was they were all evacuated as soon as the first plane hit. Good. No one in our group knew exactly how serious the situation was, or what to do, or where to go. We were in a building four blocks south and two blocks east of the towers, close but not directly under them, a 5 to 7 minute walk. It's such a small area there everyone is close. And we didn't know what was going on. Sights we wouldn't have noticed on a normal day became scary all of a sudden. Someone looked out at the East River that we can see between buildings and said "what's that?" and we all looked out and saw what looked like a huge raft, something we'd never seen on the river before. Was it full of explosives? Was anything aimed at us? All of a sudden the view that I had always been soothed by and loved because the look of the water changed so often during the day, and on sunny days I could watch the sailboats or cruisers and imagine being on one -- perhaps on that day that beautiful river was now being used to deliver deadly force against us, us, people in creative services just trying to get our little projects done. I sent out personal emails, which I never do from there since we're told all communications are monitored because of concern about insider trading. As I was writing the last one, someone near the window looked out and said "oh, no, everyone's running". I looked out and even 20 floors up the panic was obvious. Then the building shook and the lights flickered and the computers almost shut down and I ended my email with a "were outta here", clicked on send and hoped it got through. Within seconds there was so much smoke outside we couldn't see a building a few feet away. We then heard that one of the towers had fallen (was falling? like a tree? coming toward us? we didn't know). I pictured instantly the thousands of people in those towers and knew that there wasn't much chance for their survival. Those buildings are... those buildings were... so huge. I can't describe the sinking feeling in that instant awareness of the horror that was happening right then. I then looked around where I was and remember thinking "I don't want it to end like this." The next thought was "we don't always have a choice about our end". My next thought was "but I have things I still want to do". And then I stopped thinking about all that and plans were made for us all to go to a lower floor, not outside which many of us wanted to do; no one could be forced to stay inside but we were told going out would be more dangerous than being in the building because of all the debris in the air. So practical things took over. Log off the computer. Put my half-eaten breakfast in the trash can. Put the unfinished project on the front desk. Gather with my coworkers, some of them good friends, and walk down the stairs, getting dizzy circling around. And in the conference room on a lower floor watch the TV reports, which I could only stomach for short periods of time, make some calls to friends and family to pass the word that I was ok and would continue to be ok and expected to have a long walk home, and would call again once I was there. And then we waited, were horrified again when the second tower collapsed, and heard stories about the White House being hit, and the Pentagon being hit and another plane crashing in Pennsylvania and it felt like we were all under seige, the whole country was being bombed, we were at war. There was a lot of misinformation at that point. It was hard to sit and wait when all I wanted to do, all everyone wanted to do, was be at home and feel safe again. That "safe" feeling might never return. Most of our talk was about how to get home with all the bridges and tunnels closed, and no buses or subways running. For a while some of us expected to go home with someone who lived on Staten Island because surely the ferry would get us there. We waited, sometimes crying, mostly just numb and waiting. The ventilation system was shut down because it brought outside air in and that was now filled with smoke and dust. It became very warm in there. We waited. Around 1:30 when building security said we could go outside, I left my bag that had some books and my portable cd player and the collection of favorite cds in it since I expected to be walking all the way home, a very long way, and didn't want to carry it. So I left it with a note that I'd be back to pick it up when I could. There's no guarantee it will be there when I go back for it so decided to take my favorite since I could fit one cd into my purse. It came down to a choice between the John Cale and a Richard Thompson bootleg that jonilister Catherine Turley had sent me, which has a wonderful duet with Shawn Colvin on it that I've listened to over and over. The Richard Thompson cd won out, I think because it was more personal. I figured I could always buy that John Cale cd again, and the other six or so cds I left behind if I had to. That bootleg is something very special, though, so that's what I wanted to hang onto. Funny, the things that become important during such times. And I finally got home. Yesterday, the wind was blowing north and the dust I'd been walking through downtown was covering even my neighborhood too. No safety anywhere. Seeing the flowers and candles outside the firehouse was overwhelming. Today, over two days after the horror, I still have a headache, still feel like there's an elephant pushing his foot into my chest, can't sleep very well, and have been coughing, which I hope is getting rid of some of that horrible ash I've breathed in, and sometimes still am suddenly in tears. Other times I don't feel anything. And I've done lots of talking, although at some point there's nothing more that can be said for now. Almost everyone is in mourning and waiting for news about someone. The friend that I was worried about contacted me last night. He had been outside the towers and saw the first plane hit and started going north and was well out of harm's way when the towers fell. Thank God for that. There's thunder outside now, one of those sounds I used to love, that used to mean heavy rain and washing and shiny clean streets and rebirth. Tonight those rolling booms are just making my head hurt even more. Debra Shea ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 12:18:46 +0100 From: colin Subject: St Pauls Right now there is a Service of Rememberance going on in St Paul's Cathedral. There was a countrywide 3 mins silence at 11am. ROI have closed all there shops, schools and business for the whole day. The 3 mins silence was Europe wide. - -- bw colin DAK,BRO GC, 950i 940,860,864, 260, 890,Silver 830 and 270, Passap 6000 Duo80 colin@tantra-apso.com http://www.tantra-apso.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 07:35:21 EDT From: StDoherty@aol.com Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #285 In a message dated 9/14/01 3:59:10 AM Eastern Daylight Time, les@jmdl.com writes: << Dear friends, Those of you who have been around for a while know that I'm someone who has NEVER approved of political diatribes or personal attacks on the list. I don't believe that is what our community is for. However, I kept silent during the latest spate, until now. It is difficult to conceive that, while we try to deal with the horror that has been unleashed upon us, some of you have the time and energy to continue these rantings. Scroll? Delete? I don't think so. I don't want this crap coming into my mailbox anymore. As of now, I'm unsubscribing. Perhaps I'll be back in a while. To all my dear friends on the list, I love you all, and keep you >> I couldn't agree more ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 10:29:27 EDT From: RobSher50@aol.com Subject: Let music soothe your soul Hi everyone, Right now, I am listening to the wonderful sounds of Take 6 and I feel my soul being soothed. I had to turn the TV off (again) because I was overwhelmed. I'm torn between wanting to share in the suffering of those who do not know the fate of their loved ones and needing time to heal my own soul. My family's trials are just beginning as I have numerous members on high security alert due to them being in the military. I am so proud of them and yet, so afraid for them. I was thinking of how Joni's music has always been a catharsis for all of the emotions I may be feeling. "Amelia" usually brings me to tears. What I would like everyone to do is tell me what Joni song tugs most at your emotional heartstrings. I need you to go listen to that song and let it soothe you in these terrible times. I was also moved to tears when I heard and saw the British Guard play the national anthem. It meant so much to me to have another country pay such homage. Paul C sent such a heartfelt post asking what he could do to help get people in touch with relatives in the UK. I thank you publicly as I have already done privately. So find your most touching Joni song and tell us why it means so much to you. I think it will help us all. Sherelle NP-Take 6 "Milky White Way" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 10:43:08 EDT From: RobSher50@aol.com Subject: Re: Goodbye Dear Brett: This list has seen much worse than what recently transpired. We lost a list member in a car accident about two weeks after a similar heated disagreement. To me, that's worse, because we can't bring him back to straighten it out. That's why a lot of the list members feel like the controversy just isn't worth it...ever. So Steve, take your rest, but please come back so that we can all work it out. Once a friend's voice is silenced by death, all that is left are regrets. Sherelle In a message dated 09/14/2001 12:03:28 AM Pacific Daylight Time, les@jmdl.com writes: > Bye Steve, > > You are so right. There was a kind of golden age on this list - for years. > Now, it is hopeless and stupid, childish and ridiculous. No judgement, bad > judgement. It is permanent and perpetual, it seems. So much so, that it > has silenced me almost completely. > > Have a good break. And come back some time soon. Few know Joni like you > do. The list needs you. > > Brett ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 10:41:37 EDT From: Rusty10113@aol.com Subject: Re: Goodbye HI all...I must say, I'm often stunned into apathy and silence by the childishness displayed in many posts here, instead of sharing what this list, to me, is about: sharing how Joni's music makes our lives better and richer...I quickly delete messages I see spin off into intellectual nastiness, but I treasure the posts of new Joni news, links, etc., that often make my day...do I want to quit just yet? No... I live in New York City, and as I walked in the rain today to get my coffee, Ladies of the Canyon soothed me every step of the way, and I felt lighter...isn't this small but significant Joni-related musing what this list should be about? think about it today Joni lovers, and drop the attitude please! If you're having a hard time with that, put on "for free" a few times, it always works for me :) Love M ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 11:22:02 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Let music soothe your soul <> It's probably no secret that music is constantly soothing my soul...although I haven't been using much Joni to soothe me recently. Last night I spun Earth Wind & Fire's "That's the Way of the World", and it was rejuvenating. I've also had a couple songs "NPIMH" since Tuesday, namely Marvin Gaye's "What's Goin' On" & Stevie Wonder's "Love's In Need of Love Today". Both the work of pure genius. But I don't want to sidestep your question, Sherrelle...the Joni song that touches me the deepest would have to be "Hejira", that mystical chord progression accompanied by such profound words and so many phrases that I feel I have lived through. I hope that everyone will step up and answer your question, especially those who have been complaining about content, and lack of Joni, etc. Thanks for 'lighting a candle'! :~) Bob NP: Wilco, "Pieholden Suite" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 10:46:04 -0500 From: "Diane Evans" Subject: Re: list and email Colin wrote: >this new form of communication we all use has really opened our worlds >hasn't it? > >Were it not for it, yesterday would have been something that happened a >long long way away. Instead it is like it was here. >Four years of bonding and sharing lives. Yesterday i was numb and >shocked, today my throst is coinstricted and i feel breathless. > >So far it seems our list has escaped this abomination. Waiting for news >of listers has been difficult. > >I am glad we share with eachother here and the love we show eachother. These words and so many more penned by our thoughtful listers have given me many moments of reflection during the past couple of somber days. I have often been inspired by your words as I have spoken with my students. So many of "my kids" have worried moments about the safety of themselves and their families! You all have helped me navigate some murky waters with your deep words, your stories that have put us on the edge of the horror (to appreciate the value and fragility of humanity). You are all truly a blessing in my life. Peace, Diane _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 11:51:03 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: Let music soothe your soul In a message dated 9/14/01 11:26:12 AM Eastern Daylight Time, SCJoniGuy@aol.com writes: > I hope that everyone will step up and answer your question, especially those > who have been complaining about content, and lack of Joni, etc. Thanks for > 'lighting a candle'! :~) > > Yesterday I listened to BSN& All Things Must Pass Today I listened to Wild Things Run Fast, one I don't play too often I might add, but it brought new meaning for me today But the one song that I always find to be very touching, has to be Amelia. It completes me. The words and thoughts I find for today are Humanity and the tragedy of the human condition Rose in NJ mourning together with you all NP: choir music in the background on TV from the Washington Cathedral rosemjoy@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 12:00:15 EDT From: Rusty10113@aol.com Subject: Re: Yang Energy Love that suggestion! Thanks so much, it's positive messages like this that keep me coming back to this list, what a great idea! Hmmmm...I think I'm gonna choose Help Me, Free Man in Paris, Carey and All I Want, to me, the most joyous of Joni songs...thanks again Brenda.. Mitch ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 09:57:58 -0700 From: "Brenda J. Walker" Subject: Re: Yang Energy Your welcome. I listen to music most of the day. But it usually plays softly through the PC speakers. It's amazing how different it feels when its blasting from the stereo for just a few minutes. So turn it up! (And dance like no one's watching....) Brenda NP - KCRW broadcast of National Cathedral Services On 14 Sep 2001, at 12:00, Rusty10113@aol.com wrote: > Love that suggestion! Thanks so much, it's positive messages like this that > keep me coming back to this list, what a great idea! > > Hmmmm...I think I'm gonna choose Help Me, Free Man in Paris, Carey and All I > Want, to me, the most joyous of Joni songs...thanks again Brenda.. > > Mitch ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 12:07:15 -0500 From: "Sharon L. Buffington" Subject: A message Leonard Pitts, Jr, The Miami Herald Published Wednesday, September 12, 2001 We'll go forward from this moment It's my job to have something to say. They pay me to provide words that help make sense of that which troubles the American soul. But in this moment of airless shock when hot tears sting disbelieving eyes, the only thing I can find to say, the only words that seem to fit, must be addressed to the unknown author of this suffering. You monster. You beast. You unspeakable bastard. What lesson did you hope to teach us by your coward's attack on our World Trade Center, our Pentagon, us? What was it you hoped we would learn? Whatever it was, please know that you failed. Did you want us to respect your cause? You just damned your cause. Did you want to make us fear? You just steeled our resolve. Did you want to tear us apart? You just brought us together. Let me tell you about my people. We are a vast and quarrelsome family, a family rent by racial, social, political and class division, but a family nonetheless. We're frivolous, yes, capable of expending tremendous emotional energy on pop cultural minutiae -- a singer's revealing dress, a ball team's misfortune, a cartoon mouse. We're wealthy, too, spoiled by the ready availability of trinkets and material goods, and maybe because of that, we walk through life with a certain sense of blithe entitlement. We are fundamentally decent, though -- peace-loving and compassionate. We struggle to know the right thing and to do it. And we are, the overwhelming majority of us, people of faith, believers in a just and loving God. Some people -- you, perhaps -- think that any or all of this makes us weak. You're mistaken. We are not weak. Indeed, we are strong in ways that cannot be measured by arsenals. IN PAIN Yes, we're in pain now. We are in mourning and we are in shock. We're still grappling with the unreality of the awful thing you did, still working to make ourselves understand that this isn't a special effect from some Hollywood blockbuster, isn't the plot development from a Tom Clancy novel. Both in terms of the awful scope of their ambition and the probable final death toll, your attacks are likely to go down as the worst acts of terrorism in the history of the United States and, probably, the history of the world. You've bloodied us as we have never been bloodied before. But there's a gulf of difference between making us bloody and making us fall. This is the lesson Japan was taught to its bitter sorrow the last time anyone hit us this hard, the last time anyone brought us such abrupt and monumental pain. When roused, we are righteous in our outrage, terrible in our force. When provoked by this level of barbarism, we will bear any suffering, pay any cost, go to any length, in the pursuit of justice. I tell you this without fear of contradiction. I know my people, as you, I think, do not. What I know reassures me. It also causes me to tremble with dread of the future. In the days to come, there will be recrimination and accusation, fingers pointing to determine whose failure allowed this to happen and what can be done to prevent it from happening again. There will be heightened security, misguided talk of revoking basic freedoms. We'll go forward from this moment sobered, chastened, sad. But determined, too. Unimaginably determined. THE STEEL IN US You see, the steel in us is not always readily apparent. That aspect of our character is seldom understood by people who don't know us well. On this day, the family's bickering is put on hold. As Americans we will weep, as Americans we will mourn, and as Americans, we will rise in defense of all that we cherish. So I ask again: What was it you hoped to teach us? It occurs to me that maybe you just wanted us to know the depths of your hatred. If that's the case, consider the message received. And take this message in exchange: You don't know my people. You don't know what we're capable of. You don't know what you just started. But you're about to learn. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 13:49:27 EDT From: AsharaJM@aol.com Subject: We Are an AWESOME Community!!!!! I am SOOOOO thrilled with Anne's good news, and have been waiting for a good time to announce this. This seems like as good a time as any. We all need more good news right about now. These are the final numbers for what we raised for Jim Johanson and JoniMitchell.com: Donations: $1865.00 Raffle at Jonifest: $570.00 Total: $2,435.00 Thank you to EVERYONE that participated!! We are AWESOME, and each of us DOES make a difference. Jim, we love you, and our thoughts, prayers and healing energy are going your way to help you get well. Hugs, Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 14:36:10 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: We Are an AWESOME Community!!!!! Yes, you are, you are. This is simply wonderful. rosemjoy@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 14:31:28 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: The service on tv this morning.... Does anyone remember the prayer that was read at the end of the service? Just before they sang Battle Hymn of the Republic & after Bush spoke? To these ears, it was the most poignant part & such a relief to hear that they had chosen that one to conclude with...but my mind cannot recall it now.... ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics www.polysonics.com Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 21:02:25 -0600 From: "shane mattison" Subject: peoples parties (sjc) oh... i've had subscriber shiftings, from 'heavy volume' to mistaken 'joni only' (for me that is), to now i hope 'joni digest...' i could lurk...(or maybe i couldn't!) what a broad, broad panoply of humanity here...feelings... the difficulty of written emails only, in sensing where someone is coming from... kay, i was truly moved by your post and i have saved it...it will not be forgotten... (can we share it with others?) and marian, have you played so much joni that i imagine you being like her for some reason...a creative mother for us? and i haven't been round long enough to understand the rift, but sense its mendable...and i extend my own olive branch to people... forgive me when i come across too strongly... a defensive beginning did i have, sue cameron? i'd like to know you better and appreciate you ... and randy remote, i miss hearing from you... did i joke innappropriately and hurt your feelings? i realised later, this could have been an unintended effect of my poor taste humour... and catherine, did i get testy? lately we've enjoyed one another's posts! did i get a little too crusading myself with you chris? or colin? if the answer to these questions is yes in your eyes, then i am sorry... i didn't mean to hurt you i'm sorry that i made you cry i didn't want to hurt you i'm just a jealous guy... (john lennon) or peter saying to his Master, when he was called to see Matthew with new eyes, "Lord, I'm just a stupid....man..." Janene, i'm so sorry to hear of your cousin... one of my best friends is a calgary firefighter, who two weeks ago oversaw the lake search for a drowned boy in a storm, and who last year had to deal with dead bodies from a cyclone... and ashara, your friend' s son-in-law, how can i ever know what happened compared to those who lost loved ones or went through it... can i pontificate like a stanford polisci major? i trow not! and patrick leader, your moving personal experience...so well written, so moving... and you're most welcome sherelle and kakki if something i said was worthwhile to you... and deb shea, i'm so thankful you're safe...i was moved by what you said of your close experience... you sound like someone like a flower who no one should upset ...i hope you feel better real soon... and sharon, your journalist quote is good and true... and i know america herself is unbelievably strong ... and victor, your "angel in manhattan" was of such quality, such prescience as to be a guiding light for the hour... and you new jmdlers! so many new voices...welcome... call us to our higher and better selves! and so we are, perhaps, called to listen before we speak... behind the anonymity of computers we can sail off words far too fast...are we listening? and there are those others of you, so many, i haven't mentioned...i need to listen to you more... Bob...we have more than a little in common! "hejira" is my all time favourite joni song too... i admit it, but you were first... yes, forgive me those of you i should listen to more deeply, and respond more humanly... i wish i had seen you all at jonifest, including les, through whom this wonderful association all started...you all have so much to teach me... for benedict and the monastic tradition, listening is the very sine qua non of real spirituality, and this is shared with many buddhist monks, and sufi mystics... obviously there is a way for us beyond the mere talkers like robertson and falwell... did you all see the national service today? i was moved so much...to tears... good old billy, we'll miss him when he departs... and they sang Battle Hymn of the Republic for a stirring finale... and a few mentioned our own faults....if we could only start with ourselves , eh? and perhaps we might all pray for marcel...shall we all say a prayer for him? (and i do not excuse wrong actions here)...literally, this weekend...and mean it? ...exile is tough...i've known it...all of a sudden you're on alcatraz! (sounds like a joni line!) ...(maybe he'll change? ...though i believe you did right les...) there was a man kicked out by paul the apostle...then, after his heartbreak and change he could then be welcomed ...(who knows? at least we could say "Peace go with you, from us"... ...this would be like sweetgrass for us, or the peacepipe ceremony...) and michael, may morning come to morgantown real quick so we may hear from you again... and kate, thankyou for your maturity and wise words of counsel... and catherine udall turley we need yours too, and although i know you're job searching, you have poise...and we need it... can't you just hear joni saying, at the isle of wight, or any innumerable places (circa 1968-71 or thereabouts.)...please my friends, let's love one another... let's start right here, right now... loves' real...peace is real, just believe it in your heart and you'll find it... froggie plops into the pond... 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Your Friends at beatgreets.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 23:52:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: St Pauls We had three minutes' silence today too. I'm not sure if that was just Toronto, or the province of Ontario, or the whole country. It was at 12:20 p.m. EST - i don't know why they came up with that time. I haven't been reading the newspapers or watching TV at all since this happened. I shut the door to my office and closed my eyes and concentrated on healing. - --- colin wrote: > Right now there is a Service of Rememberance going > on in St Paul's > Cathedral. > There was a countrywide 3 mins silence at 11am. > > ROI have closed all there shops, schools and > business for the whole day. > > The 3 mins silence was Europe wide. Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 22:09:05 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE: peoples parties (sjc) shane wrote " and perhaps we might all pray for marcel...shall we all say a prayer for him? (and i do not excuse wrong actions here)...literally, this weekend...and mean it?" yes, that is a wonderful idea...i will join you in doing just that ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics www.polysonics.com Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** -----Original Message----- From: shane mattison [mailto:cactussong@home.com] Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 8:02 PM To: joni@smoe.org; Janene@cmji.com; AsharaJM@aol.com; patrick116@earthlink.net; Kakki; RobSher50@aol.com; M.Russell@iaea.org; dsk11@bellatlantic.net; katfud@earthlink.net; waytoblu@mindspring.com; Kate Bennett; Catherine Udall Turley; Sue Cameron Cc: cactussong@home.com Subject: peoples parties (sjc) oh... i've had subscriber shiftings, from 'heavy volume' to mistaken 'joni only' (for me that is), to now i hope 'joni digest...' i could lurk...(or maybe i couldn't!) what a broad, broad panoply of humanity here...feelings... the difficulty of written emails only, in sensing where someone is coming from... kay, i was truly moved by your post and i have saved it...it will not be forgotten... (can we share it with others?) and marian, have you played so much joni that i imagine you being like her for some reason...a creative mother for us? and i haven't been round long enough to understand the rift, but sense its mendable...and i extend my own olive branch to people... forgive me when i come across too strongly... a defensive beginning did i have, sue cameron? i'd like to know you better and appreciate you ... and randy remote, i miss hearing from you... did i joke innappropriately and hurt your feelings? i realised later, this could have been an unintended effect of my poor taste humour... and catherine, did i get testy? lately we've enjoyed one another's posts! did i get a little too crusading myself with you chris? or colin? if the answer to these questions is yes in your eyes, then i am sorry... i didn't mean to hurt you i'm sorry that i made you cry i didn't want to hurt you i'm just a jealous guy... (john lennon) or peter saying to his Master, when he was called to see Matthew with new eyes, "Lord, I'm just a stupid....man..." Janene, i'm so sorry to hear of your cousin... one of my best friends is a calgary firefighter, who two weeks ago oversaw the lake search for a drowned boy in a storm, and who last year had to deal with dead bodies from a cyclone... and ashara, your friend' s son-in-law, how can i ever know what happened compared to those who lost loved ones or went through it... can i pontificate like a stanford polisci major? i trow not! and patrick leader, your moving personal experience...so well written, so moving... and you're most welcome sherelle and kakki if something i said was worthwhile to you... and deb shea, i'm so thankful you're safe...i was moved by what you said of your close experience... you sound like someone like a flower who no one should upset ...i hope you feel better real soon... and sharon, your journalist quote is good and true... and i know america herself is unbelievably strong ... and victor, your "angel in manhattan" was of such quality, such prescience as to be a guiding light for the hour... and you new jmdlers! so many new voices...welcome... call us to our higher and better selves! and so we are, perhaps, called to listen before we speak... behind the anonymity of computers we can sail off words far too fast...are we listening? and there are those others of you, so many, i haven't mentioned...i need to listen to you more... Bob...we have more than a little in common! "hejira" is my all time favourite joni song too... i admit it, but you were first... yes, forgive me those of you i should listen to more deeply, and respond more humanly... i wish i had seen you all at jonifest, including les, through whom this wonderful association all started...you all have so much to teach me... for benedict and the monastic tradition, listening is the very sine qua non of real spirituality, and this is shared with many buddhist monks, and sufi mystics... obviously there is a way for us beyond the mere talkers like robertson and falwell... did you all see the national service today? i was moved so much...to tears... good old billy, we'll miss him when he departs... and they sang Battle Hymn of the Republic for a stirring finale... and a few mentioned our own faults....if we could only start with ourselves , eh? and perhaps we might all pray for marcel...shall we all say a prayer for him? (and i do not excuse wrong actions here)...literally, this weekend...and mean it? ...exile is tough...i've known it...all of a sudden you're on alcatraz! (sounds like a joni line!) ...(maybe he'll change? ...though i believe you did right les...) there was a man kicked out by paul the apostle...then, after his heartbreak and change he could then be welcomed ...(who knows? at least we could say "Peace go with you, from us"... ...this would be like sweetgrass for us, or the peacepipe ceremony...) and michael, may morning come to morgantown real quick so we may hear from you again... and kate, thankyou for your maturity and wise words of counsel... and catherine udall turley we need yours too, and although i know you're job searching, you have poise...and we need it... can't you just hear joni saying, at the isle of wight, or any innumerable places (circa 1968-71 or thereabouts.)...please my friends, let's love one another... let's start right here, right now... loves' real...peace is real, just believe it in your heart and you'll find it... froggie plops into the pond... Plop! shane ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #286 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?