From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #282 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Wednesday, September 12 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 282 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Red Cross Pleas for Blood ["Brenda J. Walker" ] in shock too ["patricia van nunen" ] Re: Red Cross Pleas for Blood ["Brenda J. Walker" ] folks checking in ["Kate Bennett" ] All We Need Is Love - I think this does have Joni content [Leslie Mixon <] Speechless [AzeemAK@aol.com] Ramona ["Marian" ] RE: NYC's Folks checking in ["Chris Marshall" ] RE: in shock ["Deb Messling" ] Re: I'm OK [KJHSF@aol.com] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #281 [StDoherty@aol.com] Re: Speechless [AsharaJM@aol.com] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #281 [StDoherty@aol.com] Re: Red Cross Pleas for Blood [Catherine McKay ] Re: Speechless [Janet Hess ] Re: Ramona [Catherine McKay ] Our friends abroad - Thanks ["Sybil Skelton" ] while ?? stick up Washington ["Russell Bowden" ] a tragedy and injury to civilization ["shane mattison" ] Re: in shock ["Mark or Travis" ] Now [Nuriel Tobias ] Re: World Trade Center terrorist attack [Michael Paz ] Hold on extra tight tonight! ["Bree Mcdonough" ] Overwhelming sadness [WirlyPearl@aol.com] Re: Overwhelming sadness ["Kakki" ] Thoughts at the end of a very long day ["Pitassi, Mary" ] emotionally drained ["Wally Kairuz" ] sincere sympathy ["frank eyre" ] NYC today (long) [dsk ] Re: debra [dsk ] new york, i love you ["Wally Kairuz" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 13:51:10 -0700 From: "Brenda J. Walker" Subject: Red Cross Pleas for Blood If you are in the U.S. and able, go to a blood bank today and give blood. Even if you are not in New York or DC, the Red Cross is requesting that people give all across the nation to support the supply that is being sent into those cities. 1-800-Help-Now Brenda ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 22:59:50 +0200 From: "patricia van nunen" Subject: in shock too I am deeply shocked. I am following the news here and my thoughts and prayers are with you all. I don't find the right words right now. "And so I ask you please Can I help you find the peace and the star Oh, my friend What time is this To trade the handshake for the fist" It's in times like this we need each other. Love. Patricia. Belgium. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 13:57:51 -0700 From: "Brenda J. Walker" Subject: Re: Red Cross Pleas for Blood You can also call 800-448-3543. On 11 Sep 2001, at 13:51, Brenda J. Walker wrote: > If you are in the U.S. and able, go to a blood bank today and give blood. Even if you are not in > New York or DC, the Red Cross is requesting that people give all across the nation to support > the supply that is being sent into those cities. > > 1-800-Help-Now > > Brenda ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 16:01:55 -0500 From: Mark Domyancich Subject: Re: Red Cross Pleas for Blood Here they're saying to schedule an appointment instead of just walk in. I heard that New York has enough blood to last for 48 hours. After that I'm sure there will be a huge need for it. Someone from NBC interviewed someone from the Red Cross and gave the number as "1-800-GIVE-LIFE". Mark At 01:51 PM -0700 9/11/01, Brenda J. Walker wrote: >If you are in the U.S. and able, go to a blood bank today and give >blood. Even if you are not in >New York or DC, the Red Cross is requesting that people give all >across the nation to support >the supply that is being sent into those cities. > >1-800-Help-Now > >Brenda ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 13:53:07 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: folks checking in i am on digest so forgive me for being a little behind. thank you all for reporting in regarding all our jmdlers in nyc & dc area... i have been glued to cnn & have heard nothing re: the sears tower so i assume it is okay... jeff arrived home from los angeles...in spite of the fact that they are evacuating LAX he says the traffic was not bad... i pray that this is the end of it...i pray we will not go to war... ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics www.polysonics.com Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 14:25:18 -0700 From: Leslie Mixon Subject: All We Need Is Love - I think this does have Joni content In the midst of the horrific gloom of this day, I wanted to share a little light with all of you. Yoko Ono was asked: "What do you think is the best way a John and Yoko admirer can help to perpetuate the Lennon legacy?" Yoko Ono replied: I think for myself and John, as well - we would both be very happy if some of the stuff that we did inspired you to enjoy your own life and gave you courage to go through life, life's hardships, and to discover yourself and love yourself. Try to make your heart dance once a day, and if you can't do that, make somebody else's heart dance that day. Keep on doing that for two months or more and your life will change totally. In a recent interview Joni was quoted as saying that the most important thing in life is to have a good heart. With love and hope for the future, Leslie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 17:40:07 EDT From: AzeemAK@aol.com Subject: Speechless It's just unbelievable. I saw quite a lot of it live on TV at my mother's. It's like looking at a scene from some FX-laden movie. My thoughts are especially with everyone in NYC and Washington DC. And the fact that one of the flights was apparently on its way from Boston to LA makes me shudder - I imagine some of the listers might have been on that flight a week ago after the Jonifest. Azeem in London ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 23:46:14 +0200 From: "Marian" Subject: Ramona I have been in a state of shock ever since hearing about the senseless tragedies which happened today in the USA. At one point on the way home, I burst into tears. The people who died are the obvious victims, but there are also all the children of those people who are now orphans. At another point on the drive home, the song "all we are is dust in the wind" started playing on the radio. That was also very heart-wrenching. Tonight, my friend Ramona called me on the phone. She expressed her condolences, described how her partner Robin came home in tears and said "How can I tell you about what happened today?" Of course she agrees that the whole thing is insane and dreadful. But she said the dark forces in the world want us to feel hopeless and afraid and that we have to somehow change the energy they have set into motion. She said we have to get up everyday and remind ourselves that "we are stardust, we are golden, and we have to get ourselves back to the garden." My love and prayers are with everyone affected. Marian Vienna marian@jmdl.com http://www.jmdl.com/guitar/marian/guitar.htm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 23:11:16 +0100 From: "Chris Marshall" Subject: RE: NYC's Folks checking in Kay Ashley also just showed up over e-mail, and is OK - --Chris ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 18:35:54 -0400 From: "Deb Messling" Subject: RE: in shock I haven't quite been able to process what's happened today. I hope all the JMDLers and your loved ones are safe. My community is west on Route 80 with a ton of NYC commuters, so we've had our share of anxious moments today. So far so good in my workplace and with my immediate family and friends. I can give money and I can give blood, but I feel so damn helpless. - ----------------------------------- Deb Messling =^..^= - ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 18:40:31 EDT From: KJHSF@aol.com Subject: Re: I'm OK Don't know you, Debra, but I'm so glad to hear that you are safe! There were three sonic booms here near Wright Patterson Air Force Base in Dayton within the last half hour. We're told that it was because of military defense aircraft having just taken off headed overseas. Ken from SF ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 18:44:38 EDT From: StDoherty@aol.com Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #281 All of this kinda illuminates the fact that name calling - the long hurt e-mials and all the other bullshit just isn't important. (Nor do some of us who aren't in the loop care). I hope it's the end of it. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 18:45:09 EDT From: AsharaJM@aol.com Subject: Re: Speechless In a message dated 9/11/2001 5:46:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time, AzeemAK@aol.com writes: > My thoughts are > especially with everyone in NYC and Washington DC. And the fact that one > of > the flights was apparently on its way from Boston to LA makes me shudder - > I > imagine some of the listers might have been on that flight a week ago after > the Jonifest. > Thank you, Azeem and everyone else for saying what I just can't put into words. I keep looking at the TV for hours and hours and hours, listening to them repeat the same thing over and over again, and I *still* cannot believe that this could possibly be true. The only time I left the television is to check here for our beloved listers in NYC and DC. Thank God everyone is safe, and I am so very, very grateful this wasn't last week. So very sadly, Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 19:07:55 EDT From: StDoherty@aol.com Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #281 In a message dated 9/11/01 6:51:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time, sharonbuffington@mediaone.net writes: << It is too bad you do not care. StDoherty@aol.com wrote: > > All of this kinda illuminates the fact that name calling - the long hurt > e-mials and all the other bullshit just isn't important. (Nor do some of us > who aren't in the loop care). I hope it's the end of it. Yikes I do care about the what happened in NYC ... I don't care about the name calling etc that's been happening in the digest. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 20:21:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Red Cross Pleas for Blood Canadians too. If you are able to give blood, here's the url for the Canadian Blood Service who can direct you to a clinic. http://www.bloodservices.ca/english/home_english.html - --- "Brenda J. Walker" wrote: > If you are in the U.S. and able, go to a blood bank > today and give blood. Even if you are not in > New York or DC, the Red Cross is requesting that > people give all across the nation to support > the supply that is being sent into those cities. > > 1-800-Help-Now > > Brenda Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 20:35:05 -0400 From: Janet Hess Subject: Re: Speechless It's almost surreal that outside my window Connecticut Avenue, a main road here in DC, is virtually empty. Earlier today a friend who lives in rural Ohio asked me to put Deanna in her Sherpa carrier and then to put Deanna and myself on a train to Ohio. Somehow Deanna seemed to think that was totally insane; she curled up in a ball instead and fell asleep on the love seat. We send our love to all. - -------------- You've got to shake your fists at lightning now You've got to roar like forest fire You've got to spread your light like blazes All across the sky Joni Mitchell ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 20:37:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Ramona Marian, you are lucky to have a friend as wise and compassionate as Ramona. - --- Marian wrote: > [Ramona] said the dark forces in the world want us to > feel hopeless and > afraid and that we have to somehow change the energy > they have set into > motion. She said we have to get up everyday and > remind ourselves that "we > are stardust, we are golden, and we have to get > ourselves back to the > garden." > > My love and prayers are with everyone affected. > > Marian > Vienna > marian@jmdl.com > http://www.jmdl.com/guitar/marian/guitar.htm Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 20:51:24 -0500 From: "Sybil Skelton" Subject: Our friends abroad - Thanks I've been reading the postings on this list off and on all day - this has been a grueling day hasn't it? I have been especially touched by all the concern and compassion being sent towards the U.S. by all the listers outside this country. Somehow it makes me feel better - like maybe the WHOLE world hasn't gone mad, ya know? Just wanted to let y'all know your kindness is appreciated. 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Unbelievably horrific. 24 years since 'Otis and Marlena' Tears and Prayers, Russ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 20:33:06 -0600 From: "shane mattison" Subject: a tragedy and injury to civilization first of all, let me express my shock and dismay for all the victims of this evil act. i pray for those still surviving as well as those suffering untold grief. my solicitude goes out to any jmdlers, such as debra and any other new yorkers or washingtonians that witnessed such horrible events or may have suffered the loss of a loved one. we in canada are in solidarity with you. our airports received many extra planes today that were bound for the u.s. i worked as an airport security officer. our airports are now all closed and you can't get one room in any calgary hotel. i know that there is not a single continental airport, indeed most airports in the world that will not be changed. Heightened security is both needed and will be done. My personal concern got very close today, as i was concerned that my former girlfriend and love, trish, was safe. Trish, a flight attendant with United Airlines out of New York, was usually assigned to the Newark to SanFran route. United Airlines graciously called me and informed me that Trish was not on that flight that was hijacked and crashed in pennsylvania this morning. I am certain that some of her closest friends (and i hope not new york roomate flight attendants) were. It will be a great grief for her, i am certain. i used to be in charge of a security checkpoint that guarded the gate to airside. i feel it personally, and i know many of my colleagues will too. Peace be with you all tonight. Shane ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 20:56:46 -0600 From: "shane mattison" Subject: injury and tragedy my heart goes out to all of you, especially anyone close to this disaster... canada shares this emergency. extra flights were diverted here, and now all airports are closed. every hotel in calgary is without an extra room. my former girlfriend and love, trish is a flight attendant with United, out of New York, assigned to the same newark to sanfran route. United graciously phoned me to tell me trish was safe...but she is in grief for her friends... i was an airport security officer in charge of the vehicular security gate to airside...i know measures will be taken to increase security...it was too lax... i and my colleagues feel this deeply... May peace be with you all. shane ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 19:59:24 -0700 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: in shock > Here in St. Louis (and I imagine throughout the US) > ... there is absolutely NOTHING in the skies that does > not have feathers. I can't decide what's more > disturbing -- the televised coverage or this silent, > eerie local reality. Earlier this evening I did hear the sound of a jet in the sky. It seemed to go on forever. I was almost in a panic. I was on the phone with Travis at the time and he said it was probably a military jet. I did call one of the local television stations and they confirmed that the military did have aircraft in the skies over Puget Sound. All day the line 'the drone of planes at night has never frightened me' has been in my head. I'm not sure we'll ever be able to feel that way again in this country. I'm afraid our lives are going to change in ways we haven't even conceived of yet. I also fear that many more people will die before this is all over and done. I am so grateful (maybe we should all go back & read those posts from Kate, Shane, Colin, et al tonight) that our community seems to be unhurt. My first inkling of today's horrendous events was from the JMDL and my first thought was 'this has got to be a fucking joke!' But then I turned on the tv and there was the World Trade Center with smoke & flames pouring out of it. Completely unreal looking and yet all too real. I think I've been in shock all day since then. But I did go to work. At first I didn't want to but as I drove toward Seattle it occurred to me that I *had* to go to work. I felt it was important to maintain some semblance of normalcy and *not* let those bastards bring the workings of this nation to a complete halt. They've already succeeded in shutting down our air travel and creating mayhem in the nation's capital and its greatest city. We cannot let them freeze us in complete panic. That's my gut feeling anyway. Thanks to everyone who checked on our listers in NY & DC and thanks to those who checked in to let us know they're ok. My heart goes out to all those who lost loved ones in this day's horrible events. If anyone thought we were invulnerable in this country, there's no way they can ever believe that again. I pray that the repercussions of this are not too destructive but I don't have a very optimistic outlook right now. All we can do is pray and hold to those we love and also hold onto the belief that love is stronger than hate. My love to you all, Mark ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 20:20:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: Now A big big hug from israel to all of you. This day will fade. Cry and hope, Nuriel _____________________________________________________________ Free email, web pages, news, entertainment, weather and MORE! Check out -------------------------------> http://wowmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 22:33:25 -0700 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: World Trade Center terrorist attack I see it as war against ourselves which is kind of a coincidence don't ay think?? Paz on 9/11/01 11:02 AM, IVPAUL42@aol.com at IVPAUL42@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 9/11/01 10:04:22 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > M.Russell@iaea.org writes: > > >> I can't believe it was the Palestinians. >> I think Islama bin Ladin must be behind it somehow. >> >> Marian >> >> I don't think it's a coincidence that these attacks occurred on the >> . > > And isn't Bin Ladin a key supporter of the Palestinians? One arm of his > organization is called the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine. > > Paul I ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 22:42:02 -0700 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: debra I have not heard anything and in spite of the current controveersy in this forum I pray for her and her family and friends and hope she is back in the saddle to resolve this misunderstanding and carry on with the music of Joni Mitchell and all the residual beauty it PROcreates. Love paz on 9/11/01 12:45 PM, colin at colin@tantra-apso.com wrote: > Has anyone heard from Debra Shea yet? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 20:37:22 -0700 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Hold on extra tight tonight! Today's events brings to mind that we should never let a loved one, friend, spouse go, without and an embrace and saying a simple: I LOVE YOU! We never no what tomorrow will bring. Or the next minute for that matter. So, if you are fortunate enough tonight to have a special someone in your life, let them know your love for them and hold 'em tight. There is NO guarantee of a tomorrow. (if you don't have a lover, partner, spouse, friend, surely you have a dog or cat, something? Give them a special pet) My prayers are with everyone, stay safe Bree _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 22:44:19 -0700 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: [Jonifest2001] Re: SEND UP YOUR PRAYERS ... Hell So glad you made it home safe. How many rooms do you have in your house> Can we all move in. You never hear of this kinda crap down under (at least NOT here). I have always fancied living on an island. Cheers!@ Paz on 9/11/01 1:06 PM, hell at hell@ihug.co.nz wrote: > Kate wrote: > >> did hell fly out yesterday? > > > I've just arrived home - the first thing I did was get on the PC and check to > see if everyone was OK. > > We taxied into Auckland Airport to be told there had been a "world event" and > that someone would be on board soon to brief us. We then heard the horrific > news - which completely threw me and everyone else on the plane, particularly > since we were on a United Airlines flight. They also initially informed us > that it was the Empire State Building that had been destroyed, and it wasn't > until we got into the terminal that we heard the real facts. > > I'm now trying to take it all in - I knew coming home would be traumatic, but > not in this way. I'm so glad that (so far) everyone on the list is OK, and > hope all your families, friends and loved ones have not been harmed. > > Thinking of you all > > Hell ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 22:47:21 -0700 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: [Jonifest2001] All We Need Is Love - I think this does have Joni content Great fecking post. Thank you SO much! Love Paz on 9/11/01 2:25 PM, Leslie Mixon at lcmixon@pacbell.net wrote: > In the midst of the horrific gloom of this day, I wanted to share a little > light with all of you. > > Yoko Ono was asked: > "What do you think is the best way a John and Yoko admirer can help to > perpetuate the Lennon legacy?" > > Yoko Ono replied: I think for myself and John, as well - we would both be > very happy if some of the stuff that we did inspired you to enjoy your own > life and gave you courage to go through life, life's hardships, and to > discover yourself and love yourself. Try to make your heart dance once a day, > and if you can't do that, make somebody else's heart dance that day. Keep on > doing that for two months or more and your life will change > totally. > > In a recent interview Joni was quoted as saying that the most important thing > in life is to have a good heart. > > With love and hope for the future, > Leslie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 23:00:22 -0700 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Hold on extra tight tonight! Another post that has touched me deeply on this dark sad day. Conitnued strength and nuturing to all who are in need tonight. Love Paz on 9/11/01 8:37 PM, Bree Mcdonough at bree_mcdonough@hotmail.com wrote: > Today's events brings to mind that we should never let a loved one, friend, > spouse go, without and an embrace and saying a simple: I LOVE YOU! We never > no what tomorrow will bring. Or the next minute for that matter. > > So, if you are fortunate enough tonight to have a special someone in your > life, let them know your love for them and hold 'em tight. There is NO > guarantee of a tomorrow. (if you don't have a lover, partner, spouse, > friend, surely you have a dog or cat, something? Give them a special pet) > > My prayers are with everyone, stay safe > > Bree > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 23:56:47 EDT From: WirlyPearl@aol.com Subject: Overwhelming sadness Hello friends, I am so deeply stunned and saddened about today's horrific events. Early this morning, I was frantically trying to reach my daughter Marcy in NY. She works in midtown but her husband of 1 year, Mike, works in the World Financial Center, right next to the World Trade Center. Fortunately, his building was evacuated in time. He was one of the thousands running north to escape, seeing people plunging to their deaths, seeing bodies on the ground. Seeing the planes hit, the flames and smoke and the huge monoliths collapse, leaving a sobbing message on Marcy's voice mail. Marcy was able to get through to my husband Steve and said they were both safe, that Mike was at a co-worker's home in Greenwich Village. Relief that they were ok, still in shock and disbelief over what was unfolding. I'm still glued to the screen, wishing that I could wake up from this horrible, surreal dream. I had been planning for days that I would finally get it together to share my thoughts and feelings about this year's Jonifest. I can't possibly do that right now, but I do want to share one small touching moment that happened. On Sunday evening, as we were enjoying some relaxing, intimate sharing of music in the candle room. A Beatle song was played and John, who was sitting right next to us, began to play another ...the beautiful song "Here, There and Everywhere." While everyone sat and listened intently, I asked Steve to dance close and slow. As we danced, I listened to the words, which I seemed to be hearing for the first time. They started to take on a new meaning, from a new perspective. Overcome with emotion, I quietly cried on Steve's shoulder, and we kissed when it ended. It was a very touching moment for us. The only other time we danced to this song was for our first dance as husband as wife. I did try before and then again afterwards, to tell the group gathered that this was our wedding song. Not hearing me begin to speak, John had already burst into a another more cheerful Beatle song (was it "When I'm 64?") and I couldn't get the words I wanted to share, out. So, I'm sharing it with you now. And I had also wanted to say that today, Tuesday, September 11, 2001 is our Silver Wedding Anniversary. A time there should be a major celebration for staying together for 25 years and still in love. (How many times we've said to each other, " I told you when I met you I was crazy.") I've never really been able to deal very well with birthdays, holidays and special occasions like these. I won't try to analyze that here. But from now on our special day will forever be linked with the overwhelming sadness of today's tragedy. The news that we will be hearing in the coming days will be unbearable. I join all of you in your prayers. I am so grateful for our connection. Pearl ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 21:37:59 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Overwhelming sadness Oh Pearl! I am so glad to hear that Marcy and Mike are alright. I remembered this afternoon that you had just told me at Ashara's that they were working in or near the WTC and I was just sick for you. I can't imagine the day you have had. I am so thankful to hear that most all of our list members in NYC are alright. I was also very concerned about Stephen Elliott and Rusty and am very relieved they are O.K. I was trying to think of everyone and isn't Tanya also there? I hope she is safe. I am feeling imploded, sick and, like Mark, that something just went out of us today. But I am heartened by so many of the absolutely beautiful and uplifting words that some of you have sent in today. Praying for all, Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 23:51:44 -0500 From: "Pitassi, Mary" Subject: Thoughts at the end of a very long day Half an hour from the end of this day, I'm taking a deep breath and simply trying to process all the images. I wonder sometimes if we humans have whatever "equipment" must be necessary to take in something so fundamentally unbelievable. On a personal note, as I just discovered, my family dodged a double bullet. When I heard that one of the planes (turns out it was both) that crashed into the WTC had originated from Boston, and then that a third plane had crashed near Pittsburgh, my first thought was for my aunt, scheduled to leave Boston and arrive in Pittsburgh sometime early this week when I last talked to her a little more than a week ago. Turns out she DID leave Boston this morning--on the one right before American Flight 11, the flight she usually takes. And my first cousin, her daughter, who lives in Boston, often WORKS Flight 11, but was not doing so this morning. She knew all the crew though, so it's very hard for her. You are all in my prayers tonight, as is everyone who lost a loved one today. . .and everyone who, beyond all reckoning, "dodged a bullet." Take care, stay safe, and be well, Mary. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 00:58:10 EDT From: Ricw1217@aol.com Subject: the rapists in the pools... what a sad day this is for united states and for the world. you try and gather your thoughts and everything seems a grim choice between understatement and hysteria. i wanted nothing so much than to leave my office today, find my daughters and hold them in my arms. to say how sorry i am that i can't protect them from all the murders, great and small - that i can't protect them from the horrors in their livingroom, let alone the random madness of the every day. its so depressing, these things we do to each other, country to country, neighbor to neighbor, family to family, list member to list member. with a heavy heart. ric ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 01:58:42 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: Overwhelming sadness i know, pearl, i saw you. i have treasured the image of you and steve cheek to cheek, your face radiant with emotion. i secretly shared that moment with you from my corner as a celebration of all that is beautiful in the universe. thank you for that picture: it will live for ever in my memory. wallyK - -----Mensaje original----- De: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]En nombre de WirlyPearl@aol.com Enviado el: Miircoles, 12 de Septiembre de 2001 12:57 a.m. Para: joni@smoe.org; jonifest2001@yahoogroups.com Asunto: Overwhelming sadness While everyone sat and listened intently, I asked Steve to dance close and slow. As we danced, I listened to the words, which I seemed to be hearing for the first time. They started to take on a new meaning, from a new perspective. Overcome with emotion, I quietly cried on Steve's shoulder, and we kissed when it ended. It was a very touching moment for us. Pearl ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 02:14:31 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: emotionally drained dear family, i am going to bed. i am exhausted. i have cried all day thinking of my beautiful new york defiled this way, of all the friends and lovers in nyc i still haven't heard from, of all of you, of war and madness. nostradamus predicted these events exactly as they happened. he mistook only the year and the month: he said august 1997 instead of september 2001. we must be strong now to fulfill our destinies. love, wallyK ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 06:13:22 +0000 From: "frank eyre" Subject: sincere sympathy I would like to send my deepest heartfelt sympathies to all Americans and concur completely with Prime Minster Blair. God Bless frank N. Ireland _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 02:26:55 -0400 From: dsk Subject: NYC today (long) When we were allowed to leave the building at about 1:30 today, the smoke that was still in the air was almost suffocating, and everything, parked cars, leaves, street signs, canopies, were covered with at least 1/2 inch of powdery grey ash, and this was several blocks east and a little south of the World Trade Center. People either had filter-masks on or were holding cloths to their nose. Police and some National Guard soldiers were on corners. There were no moving vehicles on the street except for fire trucks and ambulances. It was very quiet. Very strange for Manhattan. I went further east to walk up Water Street. That was rather far from the explosion and yet even there everything was covered with ash. It was as though there'd been a snowstorm, but it was a dead one; there was no sparkle, and no crunch when walking. There were papers on the street, and shopping bags and file folders, all things that were sitting in an office many blocks away a few hours before. There were a few pieces I picked up, papers with singed edges, a page with the address of 1 World Trade Center, a copy of a check, and an invoice from California with the sender's name on it, and I thought thank god the person that sent this wasn't in those buildings. I have no idea what I'll do with these few things. Maybe nothing. Maybe something that will attempt to honor all those lives lost. I don't know now. I passed some volunteers on a corner handing out wet paper towels to put over our faces so we could breathe a little easier, and all I could do was hold out my hand for one and nod slightly. I couldn't speak. Almost everyone was very quiet, slowly walking north, wanting to get home. Holding the wet paper towel to my nose made it possible to get some air that wasn't mostly smoke or dust, and this was over three hours after the second tower had collapsed. When I passed Maiden Lane and looked to the left there was open sky where normally the towers would have been clearly visible and was overcome with unbearable sadness. I think people that live here, and visitors too, will always feel a huge ache when they look in that direction. Some friends caught up with me after I'd been walking for a while, and as we walked through the pretty community garden of an apartment complex and through the east side of Chinatown we spent time figuring out how each of us was going to get home. The F train was somewhere, but none of us knew exactly where. At that point we were all just walking north and didn't even know if any subways were running, and I wasn't sure if I wanted to take the subway anyway. We occasionally looked back and just stared at the huge dark cloud that looked like it would never dissipate. As we walked Andrew told me how he'd passed the towers about 10 minutes before the first plane hit. Stephen's wife and baby had been at home on Long Island. Mostly we all walked without talking much. There were so many people in the streets, walking. We got into the Lower East Side and saw the F train stop at East Broadway. First time I'd ever been there. It was running, so we all decided to go on it in our continuing "head north" journey. While waiting on the crowded platform we talked about the ash in our hair and how extremely dusty Lee's shoes were and heard his story about how as soon as the first plane hit, he had run to where his wife worked, which was even closer to the towers than we had all been so the ash was deeper, to find her because there was no answer at her office phone number. Security there wouldn't let him in and he ended up using someone else's ID. She wasn't there. He came back to where we work. He ran back to look for her again. Finally he found out that she'd left her office right away and had gotten home before the subways had been shut down. To add to the poignancy of it he said she's expecting and he sighed as he said he was so glad she was safe. All of us, and people waiting nearby that heard his story, felt relief at that too. In the very crowded subway car there was more talk about how to get home. We figured out that I could change at 53rd Street for the train I needed (if it was running), someone near us overheard Stephen talking about Long Island and he lived there also so they figured out together the best way to go, Penn Station versus changing at Jamaica, another guy nearby told us his story about how he's the manager of a building on Wall Street and he'd just gone up on the roof to check something just after the first plane had hit, and how he couldn't move as he watched the second plane. I love talkative New Yorkers. Being so aware of each other is part of being a New Yorker. I love New York. I am so incredibly sad that this has been done. Debra Shea ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 02:30:25 -0400 From: dsk Subject: Re: debra Michael Paz wrote: > > I have not heard anything and in spite of the current controveersy in this > forum I pray for her and her family and friends Thank you Michael. There's one friend who started working at Merrill Lynch a few weeks ago and I haven't heard from him yet. and hope she is back in the > saddle to resolve this misunderstanding I'll write when I can. Debra Shea and carry on with the music of Joni > Mitchell and all the residual beauty it PROcreates. > > Love > > paz ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 03:39:38 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: new york, i love you i can't sleep. i can't stop crying. new york, i love you. i'm crying for you. i should be there to help you get back on your feet. new york, you always gave me everything. we are meant for each other. i'm crying. i will never be able to laugh again. i love you new york. i love your people, the folks that talk to me on the subway, the dry cleaner on horatio and greenwich, the video store on hudson and west 11th. ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #282 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?