From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #280 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Tuesday, September 11 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 280 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- gossip ["Mike Pritchard" ] gord lived with joni and chuck ["shane mattison" ] joni's lipstick......"silent red" ["shane mattison" ] Re: born to take the highway [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] [Jonifest2001] Lost and Found, Part 27 [Steve Polifka ] Re: joni's lipstick......"silent red" [Randy Remote ] (sjc), Earthquakes, mad cow, west nile, sheesh... [BigWaltinSF@aol.com] here again!!!!!!!! ["Wally Kairuz" ] Re:Jonifest 2001, The Picture CD [Brian Gross ] bag balm ["shane mattison" ] [Fwd: Your skirt is up over your head] [dsk ] RE: [Fwd: Your skirt is up over your head] ["Chris Marshall" ] Snacks kills [Nuriel Tobias ] Re: Snacks kills [Vince Lavieri ] Joni to perform at John Lennon Tribute [Phyliss Ward ] Pic of joni; pix of other folk musicians ["Timothy Spong" ] Re: Joni to perform at John Lennon Tribute ["Victor Johnson" ] RE: To the cult-A Jonifest loveletter (review) ["patrick leader" ] Re: Be kind ["Kakki" ] Re: Be kind [Michael Paz ] reckless and careless ["Sharon L. Buffington" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 11:03:56 +0200 From: "Mike Pritchard" Subject: gossip > (A meta question) Um, are we allowed to speculate/comment/ask > questions about > JM herself and her personal life? Of course we are! Like the lady (almost) says: "We're not above honour, where gossip is at stake". Mike in BCN NP - Paul Brady 'The Lakes of Ponchartrain' ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 04:31:31 -0600 From: "shane mattison" Subject: gord lived with joni and chuck using materials such as current biography, matthew fifer, who hosts a website for gordon lightfoot, claims about gord: <> i knew gord did early philly radio interviews with joni, but live with her and chuck? that's news to me... anyone know about this? fifer's site: http://www.mmlc.nwu.edu/~mfifer/lightfoot/ shane www.angelfire.com/art/cactussong ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 05:22:36 -0600 From: "shane mattison" Subject: joni's lipstick......"silent red" nuriel tobias wrote: <> you're funny, nuriel, but ya ain't bill shakespeare...i exonerate myself from this outrageous charge of red web trivia .. well....uh...one last one kay? 'cause, all my scholarly interest of the lady in red has been irrefutably justified....joni wears estee lauder "silent red" lipstick.... and if you want to see just how significant a red crawler i really am, peruse for your perfidious pleasure, The Lipstick of the Stars, where joni shows why she wears only the red lipstick i gave her in red deer alberta: http://www.thelipstickpage.com/star.shtml 'bate me nay more, i rest my case... shane www.angelfire.com/art/cactussong ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 08:44:56 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: born to take the highway <> I don't know much about it, Nuriel, but I'm happy to share what I DO know...it was one of her earliest songs, written and published in 1966. She performed it live in coffeehouses & such, and a live version can be found on some of her early "Second Fret"-era recordings. She introduced the song live by saying that she wanted to write a 'traveling' song. She apparantly recorded the song (along with BSN) on an early demo tape that made its way to a UK folk group known as "The Foggy Dew-O" who liked both of these songs enough to record them. The lyrics to "Born To Take The Highway" can be found here: See the stretching sun at dawning Wipe the stardust from his eyes Feel the morning breezes yawning Telling me it's time to rise Telling me it's time to rise I was born to take the highway I was born to chase a dream Any road at all is my way Any place is where I've been Anything is what I've seen Gambler's gold is made for squandering Miser's silver is to hoard My gold as the sky goes wandering My silver is the drinking goard My silver is the drinking goard I was born to take the highway I was born to chase a dream Any road at all is my way Any place is where I've been Anything is what I've seen I've skipped on concrete Danced on cobbles Stepped on pavement in the heat I've seen where children crouched at marbles Made chalk circles in the street Found a penny at my feet Found a penny at my feet I was born to take the highway I was born to chase a dream Any road at all is my way Any place is where I've been Anything is what I've seen Now I know a road that winds forever Through the land the rainbows run You cross the bridge from now till never Take the first turn past the sun Take the first turn beyond the sun I was born to take the highway I was born to chase a dream Any road at all is my way Any place is where I've been Anything is what I've seen When singing the long live, she would encourage the audience to join in on the last two lines. Hope that helps, Nuriel... Bob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 10:19:24 -0500 From: Steve Polifka Subject: [Jonifest2001] Lost and Found, Part 27 Yes, Mother Ashara, I have not forgotten, Just got to the bottom Of my bowl Doncha know Shakin' up the room Like a cheap, cheap perfume But I be floatin' away From lass week into today- I'm runnin' on Ganja time Who cares what is yours and what is mine We're runnin' on Ganja time One more hit and I'll be jus' fine... Hugs, LOL! At 09:27 AM 9/10/01 EDT, you wrote: >Just a reminder that it would be a GREAT help if those of you that left >things here (Steve P, Steve M, Marcel, Kate, and Donna) could send a mailing >label to me so I can get these things back to you. A SASE big enough to hold >the things you left, woudl even be better!! I am swamped, as I've said a >million times, and I'd love to get these things back to everyone. Thanks! > > and thin all black >chord. > >Kakki, I will get the photos developed from the camera you left, and send >them to you. > >Hugs, >Ashara > Steve ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 10:39:24 -0500 From: "Donna J. Binkley" Subject: RE: [Jonifest2001] Divine intervention? Hi Victor, I feel the same as you that Jonifest was just where i needed to be. It gave me a shot in the arm musically and spiritually that i can't get here in my world. I also wanted to let you know how much i'm enjoying "Twisted". I took a road trip this weekend which allowed me time to really give it the attention it deserves and have been listening to it constantly since then. I love "Melancholy" and have been practicing the harmonies. I think i'll learn to play it for my own pleasure as well, maybe we can sing together next year. Keep on rockin bud, i think you are such a talented and mellow soul, hearing your music calms me in an otherwise frantic environment. Love, Donna - -----Original Message----- From: Victor Johnson [mailto:waytoblu@mindspring.com] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 6:41 PM To: Jonifest2001@yahoogroups.com Cc: joni Subject: [Jonifest2001] Divine intervention? I can't believe it was already one week ago that I arrived in Topsfield airport and made my way to Ashara's. Tonight's quite a contrast. It's so quiet here in my little apartment. I still feel as if I've just got here as there's still alot that isn't unpacked and the aquarium is still empty. I'm planning to go tonight to see Jennifer Daniels, from Chattanooga, play at a local coffeehouse. I keep wishing in my heart that I could come home to a house full of jonifesters with guitars and smiling faces. I am planning to start hitting the clubs and open mics again, get out more, make some things happen so maybe I can find some people to tide me over till the next fest. When I was in Atlanta, I got so, so discouraged from doing anything anywhere as there was such a complete lack of support and/or enthusiasm from anybody (except Holley, bless her heart) but I'm hoping that Athens will be a little different. Who know though, after this jonifest, I believe that anything is possible. I really think that it was just where I needed to be. Divine intervention? or maybe just an angel looking over me? In any case, I'm very grateful for everything that transpired over those several days. "The Secret 'o Life is enjoying the passage of time" J.T. Victor Victor Johnson http://www.cdbaby.com/victorjohnson "Velveteen rabbits and moonbeams, Come when you lay down your head. While you are sleeping, they kiss you and tell you, That you are the reason the sun lights the sky." Scarlet-V. Johnson - ------------------------ Yahoo! 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Tuesday morning as I stood on the train platform on my way to work, rather than hearing traffic and trains, the sounds of birds and crickets filled my ears. I felt lighter and more alive than I have in a long, long time. Telling my Mary about the weekend, I had to admit that the whole thing sounds a little "kumbayah-ish" when trying to explain it to someone who hasn't attended -- and especially to someone who isn't a member of the JMDL. But spending such quality time with people from this list is an incredible, FUN experience! I look forward to doing it again next year (and I hereby volunteer for whatever needs doing). Back to work for now, Lori near DC ~ Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 09:51:20 -0700 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: joni's lipstick......"silent red" Interesting, and I wonder how they know all this. Incidentally, Shania Twain's lipstick of choice was 'bag balm'. Bag balm is what you put on a goat's chapped udder. Thanks Shane for another fun/off the wall Joni link. RR shane mattison wrote: > > well....uh...one last one kay? 'cause, > all my scholarly interest of the lady in red has been irrefutably > justified....joni wears estee lauder "silent red" lipstick.... > > and if you want to see just how significant a red crawler i really am, peruse > for your perfidious pleasure, > The Lipstick of the Stars, where joni shows why she wears only the red > lipstick i gave her in red deer alberta: > > http://www.thelipstickpage.com/star.shtml ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 13:31:22 EDT From: BigWaltinSF@aol.com Subject: (sjc), Earthquakes, mad cow, west nile, sheesh... My apologies to the jmdlers (and everyone else) re: the earthquake in SoCal. Good thing I was only half kidding. :-/ The killings do continue to go on -- another family found dead right here in SF this morning. It's becoming a daily thing. Is it a local phenom? -- I know they happen all the time everywhere, but this recent spate up here has me more than usually unnerved. It's probably just overreporting, like the sharkbite thing this summer. If Joni wrote Sex Kills now, she'd have to include mad cow and west nile et al. At least happiness is the best facelift. If you like cosmology spiced with philosophy, I recommend Chaos and Harmony by Trinh Xuan Thuan. Cheered me up for some reason. Peace (please!!), Walt ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 14:34:25 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: here again!!!!!!!! just jumped out of a plane and took a cab home and ran to my computer to find you all again. i spent a nice week in boston after the fest but alejandro and i didn't work out, so i guess i won't be there for the foliage. i still haven't unpacked. i'll be back later. i love you all and i miss you so painfully, wally ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 14:59:52 -0400 From: Brian Gross Subject: Re:Jonifest 2001, The Picture CD Or, to lighten Mama Lion's load, you can send your blanks and SASE to me at: Brian Gross PO Box 5126 Deptford NJ 08096-0126 USA - -- After twenty-three years you'd think I could find A way to let you know somehow That I want to see your smiling face Forty-five years from now. --Stan Rogers ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 13:28:37 -0600 From: "shane mattison" Subject: bag balm Randy researched: <> gee randy, although i'm scottish, i'm not into sheep... what's this 'chapped udder' that you've been putting shania twain's 'bag balm' on? when you do this strange act, do the sheep sing joni's 'coyote', a la, "He picks up my scent on his fingers, while he's watching the waitress's legs. He's too far from the Bay of Fundy (lots of sheep), from appaloosas and eagles and tides..." ....and goats or do they baaa shania's song, "Man! I Feel Like a Woman..."? good research randy... i just pointed to the moon... shane www.angelfire.com/art/cactussong ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 17:45:53 -0400 From: dsk Subject: [Fwd: Your skirt is up over your head] Strange how we're all supposed to work around the abuser, according to the abuser anyway. I've just now logged on and see this private email who I told not long ago would have anything he sent to me privately forwarded directly to the list. He must want you all to see this: Marcel Deste wrote: > > If you dont wish to be responded to off list then keep your > sanctimonious insults to yourself.I have suggested you not read my > posts.I can see you cant resist. Moth to a flame huh? It is a free > country and we both can potst our thoughts. I realize you wish it > wasnt. If someone told you "hey you lost weight" it means he used to > think you were fat. If they say youre younger than I thought you were > means he thought you were an old bat. Colins comments were sheer > stupidity. This may be beyond your sense of "compliment" after all > Comradette a compliment to you is a red star on your beanie for how > many people you turned into the secret police. I have kept your wish > to not contact you so please do the same with me. Please excuse me Im > off to the Juanita Broderick rally. > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! > Messenger. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 23:22:58 +0100 From: "Chris Marshall" Subject: RE: [Fwd: Your skirt is up over your head] Marcel, This is the absolute feckin' end. If you'd met Debra, or Colin, you'd know that they're nice genuine people, who aren't out to hurt or offend anyone. They may well be out to defend their own views or right to expression, but not the the detriment, offence, and persecution of others. Repeatedly, you defend your own right to expression (citing humour on occasion) but do it in such a way as to cause personal offence to people. That's downright bloody nasty, and HAS to stop. Your personal e-mails of this sort deterred people from coming to the Jonifest, and caused others to at least have second thoughts. That ruins it for everyone, and it made me, personally, very angry. You're lucky you had a civil word out of me the whole weekend. I spent nearly $1000 coming to Topsfield for the weekend, primarily to see my friends from this list. To find that some of those friends would not be coming, because of YOU, is galling to say the least. How are YOU going to make that situation better? It's such a shame that your musical talent seems to be tempered by such an abusive nature in the cowardly situation where you can hide behind an e-mail address. Please reconsider your actions on this list. You are an eloquent writer, and a good musician, but why do you have to resort to this sort of behaviour, and ruin a glowing reputation you might otherwise attain? It's beyond me, it really is. If you continue to send personal e-mails to people who have repeatedly asked you not to, I shall follow this up with your ISP on their behalf. Most ordinary internet users may not have the knowledge to complain about an ISP's subscribers, but I DO. For the record, if anyone has had problems of this nature, contact me, and I will help you complain to the right people and get this sort of behaviour stopped, or made so inconvenient as not to be worthwhile. Goodnight, - --Chris > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]On Behalf Of dsk > Sent: 10 September 2001 22:46 > To: joni@smoe.org > Subject: [Fwd: Your skirt is up over your head] > > > Strange how we're all supposed to work around the abuser, according to > the abuser anyway. I've just now logged on and see this private email > who I told not long ago would have anything he sent to me privately > forwarded directly to the list. He must want you all to see this: > > Marcel Deste wrote: > > > > If you dont wish to be responded to off list then keep your > > sanctimonious insults to yourself.I have suggested you not read my > > posts.I can see you cant resist. Moth to a flame huh? It is a free > > country and we both can potst our thoughts. I realize you wish it > > wasnt. If someone told you "hey you lost weight" it means he used to > > think you were fat. If they say youre younger than I thought you were > > means he thought you were an old bat. Colins comments were sheer > > stupidity. This may be beyond your sense of "compliment" after all > > Comradette a compliment to you is a red star on your beanie for how > > many people you turned into the secret police. I have kept your wish > > to not contact you so please do the same with me. Please excuse me Im > > off to the Juanita Broderick rally. > > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! > > Messenger. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 18:38:54 EDT From: AzeemAK@aol.com Subject: Re: [Fwd: Your skirt is up over your head] Marcel Deste wrote privately to Debra Shea, in a flagrant breach of her request that he not email her privately. If you still can't understand what this means, Marcel, let me spell it out for you: Debra doesn't want you to send email to her that doesn't go to the list. It's really very simple, and your ludicrous attempts to affect misunderstanding of this request do you no credit at all. However, I was shocked at the sheer spite and nastiness of this email, especially the title. Is there one damn person on this list who thinks it's OK to send this sort of post to someone who has made it clear they don't want to receive private mail from another lister? Or indeed to anyone? It never ceases to bewilder me that someone who can write so beautifully about the jonifest is capable of such crass, vindictive and insensitive behaviour. If you think you've done nothing worthy of reproach then I think you need help. Azeem ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 18:47:27 EDT From: BigWaltinSF@aol.com Subject: (sjc) The Billboard article, A&R, David Lahm, A&W When I read that Billboard article, I wondered what the hell an A&R person was. It sounded promotional, but what, arts & recreation -- no -- advertising & retail -- maybe... Then, while I was doing my laundry and was reading Ethan Coen's (of the Cohen Brothers, of "Fargo" and "Blood Simple" and lots of other cool, offbeat movies) book "Gates of Eden", I got to the story "Have You Ever Been to Electric Ladyland", which, miraculously, turned out to be a monologue by a hilariously obnoxious A&R man. Artists and repertoire. Who'da guessed. There's euphemism for everything nowadays. Earlier today, I caught the tail end of an announcement of the Santa Clara County (the county that includes San Jose) Arts and Wine festival, featuring a jazz performer named David L---. Can't be sure, the name was garbled by traffic sounds, but I heard a saxaphone player in the background, and so: Is this David Lahm who will be there (and who I think reads this list), and might he be performing some of his JM interpretations, and what are the dates? Hopefully, the add will repeat, but if any of you (including DL himself) know, I'd appreciate hearing. Thanks, walt ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 18:46:56 EDT From: AsharaJM@aol.com Subject: Re: [Fwd: Your skirt is up over your head] Chris wrote: > If you'd met Debra, or Colin, you'd know that they're > nice genuine people, who aren't out to hurt or offend > anyone. They may well be out to defend their own views > or right to expression, but not the the detriment, offence, > and persecution of others. > Chris, THANK YOU for expressing what I just don't have the time or patience to do right now with my brother being so ill. I am absolutely heartsick that some people I really care for did not feel they could attend the fest because of you, Marcel. I have never had anything but positive interactions with you, and that is the side I know from a personal standpoint. However, I cannot sit back and say that your continue rude and insulting posts to others don't bother me. They do. Very, very much. I have no room in my understanding why someone who is *able* to be kind chooses not to. It *is* a choice. For whatever reason, you have chosen to be very civil and nice to me. Of course, we will not always agree with each other here, but I believe every single person on this list deserves respect and kindness. PLEASE Marcel, stop the insulting and nasty remarks. Frankly, it doesn't accomplish anything except to make *you* look bad. I invite you to let the list see the side I have seen of you, and let the "insulting side" go. In the spirit of peace, Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 19:38:09 -0400 From: "Suze Cameron" Subject: Re: [Fwd: Your skirt is up over your head] >Marcel Deste wrote: If someone told you "hey you lost weight" it means he used to >> think you were fat. If they say youre younger than I thought you were >> means he thought you were an old bat. Colins comments were sheer >> stupidity. Wow Marcel! Imagine all of the insincere people at JoniFest who not only complimented me on losing weight but who also said that I appeared younger in person than I did in my photo in the gallery. There is no way that I felt insulted by these remarks, anymore than I thought Colin's comments were, in your words "sheer stupidity". Sorry if you didn't receive any compliments! Guess if you had you would have taken them the wrong way so why bother? BYW, I did think your guitar playing on Saturday was sheer heaven. Does this mean that if I had heard you in the past that you sucked? Now I am being totally sincere here, you are a fabulous player and I wish I had a tenth of your skill. I am about ready to send you to the principal's office if you can't play nice Marcel! We all just want our piece of the sandbox here, is that so hard to ask for? Sue Get 250 color business cards for FREE! http://businesscards.lycos.com/vp/fastpath/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 19:44:01 -0400 From: "Victor Johnson" Subject: Parsonage Lane- in loving tribute to Jonifest 2001 and all jonifests that have been and are yet to come... thank you...you open my heart, yes you do... Parsonage Lane (c)2001 Victor Johnson Flying out of Boston, Lifting off the ground. On a highway paved with clouds, Where do they go? Wind around tall, white castles, Valleys long and vast. They seem to go on forever, Today. I'll stay here awhile, I've come home again. Friends and laughter, Down Parsonage Lane. Turn around and linger, September is here. The moonlight on the island, The sound of your guitar. Cascading in rivers, Voices I know. Reach me so gently, Open my heart. I'll stay here awhile, I've come home again. Friends and laughter, Down Parsonage Lane. 4 am on Plum Island, Singing to the dawn. We walk towards the water, Through the heavy sand. But I know that I must soon go, Wander among the clouds. Where the roads go on forever, They always take me home. I'll stay here awhile, I've come home again. Friends and laughter, Down Parsonage Lane. Victor Johnson http://www.cdbaby.com/victorjohnson "Velveteen rabbits and moonbeams, Come when you lay down your head. While you are sleeping, they kiss you and tell you, That you are the reason the sun lights the sky." Scarlet-V. Johnson ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 01:05:00 +0100 From: colin Subject: Debs, Kakki, Brian, Mags Rose Debra-people will interpret things they read as they want, according to their agenda. I have seen pics of Brian before. He didn't look fat to me. However, this recent one shows he has lost weight regardless. Duh, perhaps it has something to do with having undergone that bypass.... I have seen pics of Kakki before too and I would need distorting glasses to make her out as fat. Howwver, in this group photo, she looked slimmer to me than she has before. Mags-well of course I wasn't suggesting you had alapaecia or anything. Duh, I am sure your hair was long before. Rose-I have neevr seen a pic of you before. i had got the impression from your writing(what in particualr I don't know but you mentioned soemthing from the past) that you were perhaps one of our older members. your photo says otherwise. Even if it hadn't, I never refer to older ladies as 'old bats'. As Chris and Debra will attest too, i am a fat person. I think this makes me more aware of people's weight. If I were going to insult someone, I'd be blunt about it. As for posts from Marcel-well using a filter does not work. You end up seeing them anyway when they get quoted by someone else. His acting out is grotesque, I agree. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 17:33:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: Snacks kills some realy good links on the net for joni fans: 1. www.gaydadsforsons.com. - this is where you can find not only a true loving father who will make you wonder why on earth your mother isn't married to him and still holds on to that boring dentist, but some heavy joni fans who will love to chat with you about the night they met joni in that smokey club and give you more information about larry klein than what your imagination can concieve. 2. www.bearsandcubs.com - a new hot spot, created by and for canadian men. everything you thought you knew but you didn't about the true roots of american blues. don't let the name fool you: they're not all furry and most of them are very nice ladies from toronto. 3. www.britneyspears.com - a site dedicated to older joni fans. britney speaks about the great influence that hissing of summer lawns had on her poems and talks freely about being an abused child with very disturbing reflections on "hit me baby one more time" and "i was born to make you happy" - poems her father forced her to write that are still very much painful for her to sing. if you find the site colsed, don't panic - you'll just have to wait till britney returns from school and turns her computer on. 4. www.myrtle.com - a very good site, created by a canadian woman who hasn't given up on the dream of having a permanent son in law. strange as it may seem -this is not a jewish site. 5. www.bothsidesnow.com - another great site for gay men with good links to www.bothsidesnow, please.com, and www.nobothsidesnowtonight, honey, i've got a headache.com. (if you had enough of the softcore on that link please eneter the tribute site and make sure you have an adult check, a real real old adult check) 6. www.jmdl.com - a NJC site where you'll find 7 folks talking to themselves about food, bills and AIDS. 7. www.fbi.com - help the fbi trace and catch a canadian woman who is bothering innocent young men in restaurants. 8. www.zing-a-zong.com - a very updated mitchell site from china with great information about joni's new album "clouds". if you're unable to enter - please order by phone. 9. www.nothing.com - you'll find nothing here. 10. www.jonimitchell.com - the best site on the net about the famous canadian painter vangogh with articles like "a case of vangogh", "singing with vincent", "again and again the same vangogh" and "comes vangogh (nothing can be done)". you can also download your favorit vangogh song and ask SCvincentguy any question you have about the painter. _____________________________________________________________ Free email, web pages, news, entertainment, weather and MORE! Check out -------------------------------> http://wowmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 20:39:09 -0400 From: Vince Lavieri Subject: Re: Snacks kills I am going to be busy all night checking out these sites! Fantastic! :-) (the Rev) Vince (1st place goes to www.myrtle.com!!!! - that is the one that laughed loudest at) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 17:23:21 -0700 From: Phyliss Ward Subject: Joni to perform at John Lennon Tribute I don't know if this has been mentioned before. If so, I missed it and apologize. Apparently Joni will be performing one of John Lennon's songs at a tribute in NYC. Read below: The tribute is called "Come Together" and will be aired on TNT. Here is what Rollingstone.com says about the show: Lou Reed, Stone Temple Pilots, Seal and Cyndi Lauper have joined the lineup for Come Together: A Night for John Lennon, a tribute concert to be held at New York City's Radio City Music Hall on September 20th. Other artists set to perform the songs of Lennon and the Beatles include Beck, Alanis Morissette, Nelly Furtado, Shelby Lynne, Moby and Marc Anthony, under music director Dave Stewart. Actor Kevin Spacey will host the event. Come Together is the latest in TNT's Masters Series, which has previously featured tribute concerts to Burt Bacharach, Brian Wilson , Bob Marley , Joni Mitchell and Johnny Cash . The concert, which will benefit the Violence Policy Center and the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence, will air on TNT at 8 p.m. on October 9th.! - -- Phyliss mailto:pward@datacourse.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 17:24:30 -0700 From: Phyliss Ward Subject: sorry sorry for the disjointed text in my previous message. I copied it from the web. Why does this happen? - -- Phyliss mailto:pward@datacourse.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 01:21:28 From: "Timothy Spong" Subject: Pic of joni; pix of other folk musicians Fellow jmdl-ers, On today's *joan-list digest -- a compilation of yesterday's individual postings -- participants gave URLs to find a site by a photographer, Robert Altman, I think, where a picture of Joan Baez was posted. At the actual page, there is one picture each of, in order, Phil Ochs, Joan Baez, Joni Mitchell, and, last, Judy Collins with Stephen Stills. Use , then, click on "Gallery CC: Folk musicians." Or, use , then, click on "table of contents," then, click on a picture of a man with a large portrait camera in front of a low-on-the-horizon sun, then, as above. The *joan-list, , is a discussion list about Joan Baez that works just like this discussion list, with options to receive individual postings in real time or a daily digest, but no further option to filter out non-joan content. Instead, they ask that non-Joan-related content be identified in the subject line as OT, for "off topic." If anyone objects to categorizing Joni Mitchell with "folk musicians," take it up with Mr. Altman. Peace and love, justice and freedom, and much good music. Tim Spong Dover, Del. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 21:39:37 -0400 From: dsk Subject: Re: Joni to perform at John Lennon Tribute Wow, this sounds like a great evening! Thanks Phyllis. It's the first news of this I've seen. In addition to seeing Joni, I'd love to hear what Lou Reed would do with a John Lennon song, and love to see Cyndi Lauper and Shelby Lynne and quirky Beck too. There's nothing about tickets in your message so I'll look at TNT's site now, and post what I find. Debra Shea Phyliss Ward wrote: > > I don't know if this has been mentioned before. If so, I missed it > and apologize. Apparently Joni will be performing one of John Lennon's > songs at a tribute in NYC. > > Read below: The tribute is called "Come Together" and will be aired on TNT. > Here is what > Rollingstone.com says about the show: Lou Reed, Stone Temple > Pilots, Seal and Cyndi Lauper have joined the lineup for > Come Together: A Night for John Lennon, a tribute concert > to be held at New York City's Radio City Music Hall on > September 20th. Other artists set to perform the songs of > Lennon and the Beatles include Beck, Alanis Morissette, > Nelly Furtado, Shelby Lynne, Moby and Marc Anthony, > under music director Dave Stewart. Actor Kevin > Spacey will host the event. Come Together is the latest in > TNT's Masters Series, which has previously featured > tribute concerts to Burt Bacharach, Brian Wilson, Bob Marley , > Joni Mitchell and Johnny Cash. The concert, which will > benefit the Violence Policy Center and the Brady Center to > Prevent Gun Violence, will air on TNT at 8 p.m. on October 9th.! > > -- > Phyliss > mailto:pward@datacourse.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 21:38:17 -0400 From: "Victor Johnson" Subject: Re: Joni to perform at John Lennon Tribute I got the impression from reading this article that Joni is not performing but that they had listed her as someone who had already had a tribute concert. It still sounds worth checking out. I saw a John Lennon art show at Borders this past Sunday that was pretty cool. Victor Victor Johnson http://www.cdbaby.com/victorjohnson "Velveteen rabbits and moonbeams, Come when you lay down your head. While you are sleeping, they kiss you and tell you, That you are the reason the sun lights the sky." Scarlet-V. Johnson ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 22:25:37 -0400 From: dsk Subject: Re: Joni to perform at John Lennon Tribute Victor Johnson wrote: > > I got the impression from reading this article that Joni is not performing > but that they had listed her as someone who had already had a tribute > concert. Yeah, Victor, now that I look closer you're exactly right. Darn. Well, now I can stop wondering what song Joni would be singing. Couldn't imagine her singing any of Lennon's tunes. She seems so grounded in reality and I think of Lennon's music apart from the Beatles as being much airier and full of fantasy. Still wondering what Lou Reed will sing, which leads me to picturing him being at Joni's tribute. That would have been interesting... how about him singing Nathan LaFraneer? He'd make it so scary no one would go in a cab again. Or him doing Slouching Toward Bethlehem, with guitar sounds instead of the booms of Joni's version. Or going against what's expected and doing a bouncy Joni tune, like In France They Kiss on Main Street, or Solid Love. Nah, forget that. He could probably do a great version of A Strange Boy, probably in a very chant-like way. Debra Shea NP: John Cale's Hallelujah in the promo for tv show Third Watch. I love that song and am so glad lots of people are hearing it. It makes me wonder what Joni song could be used in a similar way so more people would hear her, and be smitten, of course... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 22:34:11 -0400 From: "patrick leader" Subject: RE: To the cult-A Jonifest loveletter (review) hey stephanie: the tori moments we shared were more highlights of this fest. as for this: >So tell me where is that Tori/Joni/Tear In Your Hand/Case of You >comparison you were talking about. I would love to read it, and no I will never forget...I'm >an obsessed Tori fan. > i'm bummed. i can't find the original post (and i was proud of it: i worked on it!) and briefly searching i haven't been able to find it. i'll keep looking... patrick jfp - monica groop - grieg songs ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 18:44:55 -0700 From: Phyliss Ward Subject: Re: Joni to perform at John Lennon Tribute dsk wrote: > Victor Johnson wrote: > > > > I got the impression from reading this article that Joni is not performing > > but that they had listed her as someone who had already had a tribute > > concert. ooops! sorry again. I read it wrong too. I come out of lurkdom only to boo boo. go figure > Well, now I can stop wondering what song Joni would be singing. Couldn't > imagine her singing any of Lennon's tunes. I was picturing "Imagine", just 'cuz of the reference in "Impossible Dreamer". And to think now she actually is putting "some fiddles on it" as she says John suggested to her when they met. - -- Phyliss, still lurking after all these years mailto:pward@datacourse.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 22:43:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: [Fwd: Your skirt is up over your head] Amen, Sister! I just don't get it. - --- AsharaJM@aol.com wrote: > I have never had anything but positive interactions > with you, and that is the > side I know from a personal standpoint. However, I > cannot sit back and say > that your continue rude and insulting posts to > others don't bother me. They > do. Very, very much. I have no room in my > understanding why someone who is > *able* to be kind chooses not to. It *is* a choice. > For whatever reason, you > have chosen to be very civil and nice to me. Of > course, we will not always > agree with each other here, but I believe every > single person on this list > deserves respect and kindness. PLEASE Marcel, stop > the insulting and nasty > remarks. Frankly, it doesn't accomplish anything > except to make *you* look > bad. I invite you to let the list see the side I > have seen of you, and let > the "insulting side" go. > > In the spirit of peace, > Ashara Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 23:21:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: RE: [Jonifest2001] Divine intervention? - --- "Lori R. Fye" wrote: > > Telling my Mary about the weekend, I had to admit > that the whole thing > sounds a little "kumbayah-ish" when trying to > explain it to someone who > hasn't attended -- and especially to someone who > isn't a member of the > JMDL. But spending such quality time with people > from this list is an > incredible, FUN experience! I look forward to doing > it again next year > (and I hereby volunteer for whatever needs doing). I agree - it is VERY difficult trying to explain the phenomenon of Jonifest to anyone who isn't on the list. It sounds cultish when you try to explain it to others - it even sounds cultish to me, and I was there, so I know it isn't! Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 20:30:54 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Be kind It just breaks my heart to think that someone did not attend jonifest because of someone else...Marcel you are so different in person then you are in some of your emails...this too breaks my heart...I am striving to find kind yet truthful words. Surely this is possible. To speak our minds yet to remain kind to the individual we disagree with... ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics www.polysonics.com Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 20:47:37 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Be kind The title says it all. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 23:56:25 -0700 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Be kind Brothers and sisters! This is the way (Thank you Kate) to address this issue. Name calling does nothing, but reduce the situation further (as in some earlier emails). I truly understand everyones frustration in the matter because I know Mark (who THINKS he's Marcel) and none of the names fit what I am hearing tonight. I think it's not time to bring out the hammers and the boards and the nails, but the olive branches and flowers to share. Love Paz NP-If You Can-Jack Neilson so long for now you know I'll see you in a dream... JN on 9/10/01 8:30 PM, Kate Bennett at kate@katebennett.com wrote: > It just breaks my heart to think that someone did not attend jonifest > because of someone else...Marcel you are so different in person then you are > in some of your emails...this too breaks my heart...I am striving to find > kind yet truthful words. Surely this is possible. To speak our minds yet to > remain kind to the individual we disagree with... > > ******************************************** > Kate Bennett > www.katebennett.com > sponsored by Polysonics www.polysonics.com > Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: > http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html > ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 23:59:17 -0500 From: "Sharon L. Buffington" Subject: reckless and careless I am thinking about the word careless...when reading posts from Patrick, Chris, Ashara, and Debra concerning their feelings about Marcel...I once again feel that Marcel has posted Debra with careless disregard for the spirit of respect and dignity. When I meet someone who makes a sexist or racist remark that raises my hackles, I say to them "You seem like too nice a person to make a statement such as that". This has been very effective in opening up communication and dialogue. I am of the belief that we should always allow a person to back away from something negative they have done with grace. However, once the person has been afforded the opportunity to do this and refuses then it becomes increasingly difficult to believe they can make that change. And it is here that I look at the word careless...because it means to care less. Marcel stated in pertinent part to Debra, " This may be beyond your sense of "compliment" after all Comradette a compliment to you is a red star on your beanie for how many people you turned into the secret police." I ask you all how much more can Marcel care less? When I initially joined the Joni list I was dismayed over the sarcastic and venomous comments Marcel made to Debra. I was upset that Debra did not want to come to the fest because of Marcel. I knew this before I went to the Fest and I put that aside while I listened to Marcel play his guitar and sing for us. But all the while I was there I could not forget history. I am new to this list and lack the experience and respect of other listers. However, listers such as Debra, Ashara, Patrick, Chris, and Colin do have your respect and their opinions should be given much weight. Peace........Sharon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 22:41:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: Talk to the hand 1. listening to the new dylan and finding it artificial and very cold. 2. a canadian cat painter called me last night and asked me why no one at the jmdl is interested in talking about her. 3. so joni is not going to appear at the tribute to lennon? best news this week. nelly furtado? beck? moby? mark anthony? i don't think so. 4. never saw any photo of kilauren and not gonna wait till her mother paints her. can someone direct me to her photo? 5. something i wanted to ask all of you for some time now: is - music the food of love - or is - love the food of music? i'm not joking. i find it a very JC one. 6. i think it's time for all for us to quit everything and go back to painting. _____________________________________________________________ Free email, web pages, news, entertainment, weather and MORE! 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