From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #258 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Thursday, August 23 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 258 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. Information on the 4th "Annual" New England JoniFest: http://www.jmdl.com/jfne2001.cfm ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Today's Articles: August 22 [les@jmdl.com] re: In this moody sky today [LXROSS@ctrl.co.uk] Re: In this moody sky today [Mags ] Re: An unbelievably difficult trivia question [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: radio VLJC [Jerry Notaro ] Re: radio VLJC [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Search Joni images ["Kakki" ] radiomoi.com - its a happenin' ["shane mattison" ] Surprising (sjc) ["blonde in the bleachers" ] Re: Search Joni images [TerryM2222@aol.com] Re: Tears of Stone [Catherine McKay ] Re: jennifer & leonard but no joni [Catherine McKay ] Re: radio moi -just like this train (live -94) ["shane mattison" ] Re: =?iso-8859-1?Q?IDATx=9C=80=9Cga?=(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=AF=FCN?= [slarty ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 04:03:20 -0400 From: les@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Articles: August 22 On August 22 these articles were published: 1988: "Chalk Up Another One For Joni Mitchell" - US (Interview) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/880822us.cfm 1998: "Mitchell Unleashes 'Tiger' On Reprise" - Billboard (Interview) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/980822bb.cfm 2000: "For Joni Mitchell, Artist, Singing Was Not Enough" - New York Times (Interview) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/000822nyt.cfm - ------------------------ The JMDL Article Database has 631 titles. http://www.jmdl.com/articles ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 10:32:11 +0100 From: LXROSS@ctrl.co.uk Subject: re: In this moody sky today Willy wrote >Is there comfort in melancholy? >WTS Mmmmm, yes. Quite a lot actually, Wil'. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 07:24:01 -0400 From: Mags Subject: Re: In this moody sky today LXROSS@ctrl.co.uk wrote: > Willy wrote > > >Is there comfort in melancholy? > >WTS > then Les Ross wrote: > <> to which I had.... yes, especially when there is no need to explain. Mags. npimh: Ive Got You To See Me Through, Eleanor McEvoy - -- And this loving is a drawing close, a tuning in, an opening. Until one perfect moment; but how can it be expressed? A receiving, an enfolding as I cradle you in my arms. Within my heart, within my soul, You are my true love. --Lui Collins - --- _~O / /\_, ___/\ /_ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 07:57:44 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: An unbelievably difficult trivia question <> Yes!! <> Yes!! <> What do you want, sweetie?? Dealer's choice, and you hold the cards! ;~) All you'll need to do to claim your prize is: 1. Show up at Jonifest; 2. Perform a rousing rendition of "The Sun Is A Mass of Incandescent Gas" (just joshing with you on this one...) Bob NP: Tom Waits, "The World Keeps Turning" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 08:18:32 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: radio VLJC gene mock wrote: > hello all, there is an alternative------------and that is local community fm > radio. here in the western foothill of the sierra nevada is kvmr, Here in Tampa/St. Petersburg we have WMNF radio, totally community owned and run. It is as different from commercial radio as Joni is from Britney. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 08:38:52 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: radio VLJC <> I think this sort of thing will become a trend as most of us rebel against the dreadful state of "corporate" radio. Here in town we have an AM stereo station, owned and operated by a retired guy who plays all music, doesn't even announce the songs (which can be a little frustrating sometimes). Even though I don't listen that often, I've heard "Blue Motel Room" & "Stormy Weather (live)" on there. Also, just like Nirvana put all of the MTV hair bands out of business in the early 90's, something will come along and kick the current boyband/bellygirl trend in its respective ass. Bob NP: Tom Waits, "Buzz Fledderjohn" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 08:24:35 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Search Joni images Google has a new search engine for images! I did a search on Joni and many images came up that I've never seen before, such as when she won the Polar Music Award. The search also brings up shots of our David Lahm and Terry from Detroit with Joni. Clicking on the image also takes you to the website from where it originated. This is really cool! Kakki http://images.google.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 11:05:02 -0600 From: "shane mattison" Subject: radiomoi.com - its a happenin' wow, made me think of your posts re sad radio... there is truly the most happenin' thang afoot..."radio moi"...listen to whatever you want, when you want it...they've got joni mitchell listed tracks till hell freezes over...i just listened to the whole of Both Sides Now2000 in the best digital clarity too at the click of a button.... http://www.radiomoi.com:8080/rm/ ooooo, this is very revolutionary and very positive....i'm happy today! shane ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 12:59:00 -0400 From: "blonde in the bleachers" Subject: Surprising (sjc) Recently, I was visiting my friend at her parents house and her younger brother, he is 14, is an excellent bass player. I asked him who his biggest influence was and wouldn't you know it he said Jaco Pastorious. Stunned and impressed I asked if he listened to Joni Mitchell and he said no, so I went out to the store later that day and bought him Shadows and Light, and Hejira. Just goes to show that there is no such thing as age discrimination when it comes to the ability to appreciate great music and musicians. >From: "Mark or Travis" >Reply-To: "Mark or Travis" >To: "Don Rowe" , , >Subject: Re: Collaboration? >Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 18:25:06 -0700 > > > Just my dos pesos. Of course, if you mean Joni > > doesn't need someone like a Lerner needed Lowe, Rogers > > needed Hammerstein etc. -- I'd agree! ;-) > > > > Don Rowe > >That's what I meant. I don't think there has been a downward slide in >her writing and she doesn't need anyone to help her with it. > >Of course the contributions of musicians like Jaco & Charles Mingus >have been vital to some of Joni's records. I do recall reading that >Joni came up with most of the arrangements for Court & Spark and >pretty much insisted that the musicians stick to what she gave them. >But undoubtedly Tom Scott and the other players contributed something >of themselves to the project. Joni hasn't yet made a record where >she's the sole performer and I'm not sure I would like it if she did. >But I'm just curious enough & enough in awe of her talent that I won't >say I hope she never does. But I do agree that she has to have >learned from & been enriched by the musicians she's worked with. >Particularly the musicians that have the kind of presence that Mingus, >Jaco, Herbie Hancock, Wayne Shorter & Brian Blade have. Of course >there are many others. > >But I do think that 'Mingus' was not an easy record for her to make & >I don't think that collaborating with a composer or lyricist comes >naturally to her. I do agree with Bob, that there was probably some >emotional baggage that came with the recording of the albums that >Klein was a major player on. But I still refuse to believe that she >would allow him to significantly affect or alter her artistic vision >for those records. Like them or not, they are Joni Mitchell >recordings. Ultimately she was responsible for what went on them. > >Mark in Seattle - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 11:34:16 -0600 From: "shane mattison" Subject: radio moi -just like this train (live -94) oh my god, i just listened, on radio moi, to 'just like this train' a live (94) version that seems way better than the court and spark version! then i added it to a joni show that i just started building! http://www.radiomoi.com:8080/rm/ there's 111 joni tracks for 'on demand'! shane ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 13:33:54 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: radio moi -just like this train (live -94) shane mattison wrote: > oh my god, i just listened, on radio moi, to 'just like this train' a live > (94) version that seems way better than the court and spark version! then i > added it to a joni show that i just started building! > http://www.radiomoi.com:8080/rm/ > there's 111 joni tracks for 'on demand'! > shane Just be aware that in order to join you have to give away a lot of personal information. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 11:54:28 -0600 From: "shane mattison" Subject: Re: radio moi -just like this train (live -94) what do you mean jerry? i gave them very little...there were little windows i clicked to not have things sent...i gave them no more than other sites... shane - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Notaro" To: "shane mattison" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 11:33 AM Subject: Re: radio moi -just like this train (live -94) > shane mattison wrote: > > > oh my god, i just listened, on radio moi, to 'just like this train' a live > > (94) version that seems way better than the court and spark version! then i > > added it to a joni show that i just started building! > > http://www.radiomoi.com:8080/rm/ > > there's 111 joni tracks for 'on demand'! > > shane > > Just be aware that in order to join you have to give away a lot of personal > information. > > Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 14:11:26 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: radio moi -just like this train (live -94) <> I agree with Shane on that one...hopefully by now all of us have created a "junkmail" address that we give out when we sign up for these type of things. I always give them false information anyway, my Radio Moi name is "Rupert Smorf"! ;~) BTW Shane, that JLTT performance is from her 1994 perf. on KSCA...the whole interview/performance is available on CD if you ever get jonesing for it. She also plays Sunny Sunday, Crazy Cries, Moon at The Window, Facelift, all great unplugged versions. Also a great interview. Bob NP: U2, "In A Little While" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 14:11:20 EDT From: FredNow@aol.com Subject: Re: An unbelievably difficult trivia question "Deb Messling" Now, Rodgers and Hart >are undisputedly two different songwriters, even though they collaborated on >songs. So I think this answer fits Bob's specific question. Right? I'll dispute it ... Richard Rodgers wrote music, Lorenz Hart wrote lyrics. Neither wrote complete songs independently. - -Fred Simon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 14:30:50 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: radio moi -just like this train (live -94) shane mattison wrote: > what do you mean jerry? i gave them very little...there were little windows > i clicked to not have things sent...i gave them no more than other sites... Required fields include email address, city, state, sex, year of birth, first name, and last name. They aren't all labeled as such, but if you don't fill them all in you get a message asking for them to join, in red. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 14:39:16 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: An unbelievably difficult trivia question FredNow@aol.com wrote: > "Deb Messling" > >Now, Rodgers and Hart > >are undisputedly two different songwriters, even though they collaborated on > >songs. So I think this answer fits Bob's specific question. Right? > > I'll dispute it ... Richard Rodgers wrote music, Lorenz Hart wrote lyrics. > Neither wrote complete songs independently. Not true. Richard Rodgers wrote all the words and music to No Strings. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 14:40:39 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: radio moi -just like this train (live -94) SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: > <> > > I agree with Shane on that one...hopefully by now all of us have created a "junkmail" address that we give out when we sign up for these type of things. I always give them false information anyway, my Radio Moi name is "Rupert Smorf"! ;~) > > BTW Shane, that JLTT performance is from her 1994 perf. on KSCA...the whole interview/performance is available on CD if you ever get jonesing for it. She also plays Sunny Sunday, Crazy Cries, Moon at The Window, Facelift, all great unplugged versions. Also a great interview. > > Bob Because you give them false information does not mean that they don't ask for it. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 17:55:01 EDT From: Chorando6@aol.com Subject: Re:Jennifer Warnes. I know i didn't get there first and i am sure i am one of many, but Song of bernadette trips me out completely. It is without doubt one of the most beautiful songs written ever, god these canadians make me green, the best song writers and some of the greatest voices on the planet. I was equally taken with Jennifers version of Todd Rungrens Pretending to care on The Hunter. These two songs and Particularly Jenifers versions send me. Has anyone heard Bette Midlers Song of Bernadette? Nice but not quite there, however I think she did a smashing version of God give me Strength on Her new C.d even if it is a little sacharine in the arrangement. Anyway enough from me...except to let everyone in the u.k know Eddie Readers coming around again in October and if you get the chance see her....live is best and Eddie is best live. So do if you can. xx Clive...One more thing, refering back to god Give me strength and the Film it was written for ' Grace of my heart'. Sung By Kirsten Vigard, But would anyone else describe the scene where the actress sings the song to the Matt Dillon Character as a Magic musical movie moment? Or am I a sad queen? xx ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 18:19:02 -0400 From: cat627@cs.com Subject: RE: Dreamland Demo I would have to agree with you there Willy. When I first heard those Demos I nearly fainted. All of them are so sweet. It allows you to hear how she puts her songs together from the basic vocal and guitar/piano to the full orchestration. I would love to hear other demos so anyone with some pull out there..FIND THEM! Catgirl NP: California "William Waddell" wrote: >For those of you who know the Hissing Demos; >Dreamland. >The pea-whistle, the beat, the groove, the get-on-down-with-your-bad-selef >funkiness, or the version that was released on DJRD for better or for worse? >Personally, the Demo wins hands down. >Willy the Shake > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 18:22:43 -0400 From: cat627@cs.com Subject: RE: les deux cafe What a place!! When I went to CA and visited Kakki we went there and had such a fine time. The food was great the company was even greater and the atmosphere was so cool. The only thing missing was Joni. I did take a picture of TI behind the bar and Kakki took a pic of me in front of the sign. I framed it and have it on my desk. I don't think we saw on celebs. If we did Kakki would remember. Catgirl NP; This flight tonight "shane mattison" wrote: ><WHO DINES: Madonna, Rosanna Arquette, Gwyneth Paltrow, Cameron Diaz >ATMOSPHERE: This place screams privacy. Located on a discreet street with an >even more discreet entrance, it's a large bungalow with eating areas, a >fountain, and an outdoor terrace. However, it is the place for anyone who is >anyone. Despite the status it is very laid back and the owner is one of the >nicest people you could know. Joni Mitchell has been known to stop by >unexpected and play from the bar's piano.>> >my sister long ago caught paul mccartney doing this in london... >this would be even better... >shane ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 15:30:16 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: les deux cafe Hey Catgirl! Good to see you pop up! The TI litho is no longer up behind the main bar but I hear Michelle has it in her office now. >I don't think we saw on celebs. If we did Kakki would >remember. Probably because it was a cold Monday night in February! I don't think they emerge until later in the week and more often in warmer weather. It's more packed with them Fri. and Sat. nights in the summer months. I'm still trying to figure out which one of the bartenders is Bill Murray's brother. We had a great time that night and I thought the bartender over at (our next stop) the Polo Lounge treated *us* like celebrities. You'll have to come out again sometime for a reprise ;-) Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 18:44:37 EDT From: TerryM2222@aol.com Subject: Re: Search Joni images In a message dated 8/22/2001 11:27:58 AM Eastern Daylight Time, KakkiB@worldnet.att.net writes: << The search also brings up shots of our David Lahm and Terry from Detroit with Joni. >> Hey, how cool is that? Thanks for the heads up, Kakki. Terry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 21:09:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Tears of Stone - --- Mags wrote: Do yourself a favour....run > do > not walk to the nearest cd site or store or wherever > you get your cds and pick up Tears of Stone by the > Chieftans. An incredible collection of women's > voices, > aching hearts, falling tears...and our Joan is in > the > centre of things with Magdalene Laundries...and what > a > heart wrenching version it is. I am not sure who is > singing along with her ... it is soulful and moving > to > the core. > I think they call themselves the Screaming Banshees (I could check my CD cover but don't want to move my ass off this chair long enough to check) but I wonder who it REALLY is - doesn't sound like layers of Joni. Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 21:11:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: jennifer & leonard but no joni - --- Kate Bennett wrote: > yes leonard has left the monestary...a friend of > mine was one of his singers > & stays in touch with him... > Ha! I knew it wouldn't last - too bad I didn't bet on this. Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 21:19:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: re: In this moody sky today - --- LXROSS@ctrl.co.uk wrote: > Willy wrote > > >Is there comfort in melancholy? > >WTS > > Mmmmm, yes. Quite a lot actually, Wil'. Yes, but is there melancholy in comfort? Hmmm, words to ponder - we could ask the Lama Cohen (not the Lamadoo), but, Leonard has left the monastery... Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 20:01:51 -0600 From: "shane mattison" Subject: Re: radio moi -just like this train (live -94) jerry wrote: <> yah so? look what kind of service they're offering...111 joni tracks at the click of your mouse... burton cummings thinks its fantastic... so do i... shane ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 22:49:23 -0400 From: slarty Subject: Virus warning Be careful people one of our members is inadvertently, through no fault of her own, emailing off viruses to everyone on her address list. If you receive aa email from Janine Sherman DON'T open the attachment. Ken P.S. She's been informed. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 22:58:17 -0400 From: slarty Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?Q?IDATx=9C=80=9Cga?=(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=AF=FCN?= By the way the name of the virus is Win32.magistr.24876 Ken janine sherman wrote: > Name: SYSOCMGR.EXE > SYSOCMGR.EXE Type: unspecified type (application/octet-stream) > Encoding: base64 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 00:05:10 EDT From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Harry and the Kingpin (SJC) It looks like I don't get to go to P-town (Provincetown, Mass) this summer because time and work, etc., never did that synchronically thing. In my semi-bitterness, I wrote the following parody. I hope you like it. -- Bob Harry and the Kingpin The buff man arrives Twinkie shot boys greet him Guys dressed like cops great him P-town, hot men, abs and pecs rippling Here's the tribe The victims of Stairmasters The band sounds like Stairmasters The buff man he's not lisping His eyes hold Harry His left hand holds Bud Light What does that wrist desire That he holds it just right Harry in the ring The picked-over guys are discoing A man in a platinum wig is vamping Southpaws for now withdrawn One by one they fling His other-guy stories at him His Liams and his Louies at him In Calvins they look on The men Kingpin's taken grow cold too soon He ships their sunburned asses Off to Saskatoon Harry in his house Kingpin in a heap is snoring While bugs in his balls are still scoring Half-dreams, half-delirious schemes Haunt Harry's head If I only had nice blinds Romantic, crisp white blinds We'd probably get along Harry and the Kingpin Both know songs by Cher And drifting guy to guy They dare not look too gay You know they dare not look too gay ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 21:35:44 -0700 From: byron bentley Subject: Re: Tears of Stone They are the Screaming Orphans. A few years ago I saw them live as the opening act for Sinead O'Connor, where during her set they served as back up vocals and added some very elaborate harmonies. Byron Catherine McKay wrote: > --- Mags wrote: > Do yourself a favour....run > > do > > not walk to the nearest cd site or store or wherever > > you get your cds and pick up Tears of Stone by the > > Chieftans. An incredible collection of women's > > voices, > > aching hearts, falling tears...and our Joan is in > > the > > centre of things with Magdalene Laundries...and what > > a > > heart wrenching version it is. I am not sure who is > > singing along with her ... it is soulful and moving > > to > > the core. > > > > I think they call themselves the Screaming Banshees (I > could check my CD cover but don't want to move my ass > off this chair long enough to check) but I wonder who > it REALLY is - doesn't sound like layers of Joni. > Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #258 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?