From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #255 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Monday, August 20 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 255 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. Information on the 4th "Annual" New England JoniFest: http://www.jmdl.com/jfne2001.cfm ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Fw: it IS kakki's birthday ["shane mattison" ] Today in Joni History: August 20 [les@jmdl.com] Re: JMDL Digest V2001 #356 [PMcfad@aol.com] Re: Impromptu Joni Cover [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Scoobie Newbie Doo [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: joni and don henley, back-up singers to JT -video [JRMCo1@aol.com] This is a joke, right? [Jennymac48@aol.com] Re: This is a joke, right? ["J. R. Mills" ] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #254 ["Timothy Spong" ] re: Tim Curry cover "CBSASF" ["c Karma" ] Lucy Webster/Joni/Jo Lee and the Wanted ["Mike Hicks" ] Re: Paz' Blues [MDESTE1@aol.com] Radio VLJC ["Sybil Skelton" ] Re: Paz' Blues [Steve Polifka ] Re: This is a joke, right? [colin ] Re: Radio VLJC [Don Rowe ] Re: Lucy Webster/Joni/Jo Lee and the Wanted ["Mike Hicks" ] RE: Lucy Webster/Joni/Jo Lee and the Wanted ["Donna J. Binkley" ] Re: Covers and, uh, covers [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Paz' Blues [Michael Paz ] RE: Lucy Webster/Joni/Jo Lee and the Wanted [Merk54@aol.com] Re: This is a joke, right? [Michael Paz ] Re: Radio VLJC [Michael Paz ] pope only asked joni and bob ["shane mattison" ] Re: This is a joke, right? [Catherine McKay ] Re: This is a joke, right? [Mark Domyancich ] Re: This is a joke, right? [Catherine McKay ] Re: Radio VLJC ["Mark or Travis" ] Radio ["kerry" ] Re: "Songs of Leonard Cohen"(SJC) ["Mark or Travis" ] Subject: Radio VLJC ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: "Songs of Leonard Cohen"(SJC) [RoseMJoy@aol.com] Re: Radio VLJC [Catherine McKay ] Re: Radio VLJC [Michael Paz ] FW: the song "Woodstock" [Michael Paz ] Re: Radio VLJC - long ["Brenda J. Walker" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 01:51:31 -0600 From: "shane mattison" Subject: Fw: it IS kakki's birthday - ----- Original Message ----- From: shane mattison To: Kakki Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 1:50 AM Subject: it IS kakki's birthday it really is kakki's birdday! not my kitty, kakki in LA...a leo tho' nonetheless, you're 'gonna cut duke' kakki...habbe birdday! about leokakkis: "The fact that these folks are also creative makes their endeavors fun for them and everyone else. It's quite common to see a Leo on stage or in Hollywood, since these folks never shy away from the limelight. They are also supremely talented and have a flair for the dramatic. Warmth and enthusiasm seems to seep from every Leo pore, making these folks a pleasure to be around. They do love pleasure!" hmmmm...sound like kakki anyone? shane ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 03:44:50 -0400 From: les@jmdl.com Subject: Today in Joni History: August 20 On August 20 in Joni Mitchell History: 1974: Joni performs the first of two nights at Temple University in Ambler, Pennsylvania, a suburb of Philadelphia. - ------------------------ Search the "Today" database: http://www.jmdl.com/today ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 04:15:04 EDT From: PMcfad@aol.com Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2001 #356 the last time is saw yes was in cleveland around '88 or '89. anyway, all i'll ever remember about that show was christopher squier's bass. so loud and crunchy and captivating. i could feel my chest vibrating for two days afterwards. seriously, not exaggerating. pat np. train whistle in the distance In a message dated 8/20/2001 3:04:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time, les@jmdl.com writes: > It was the > first time in Yes concert history that Chris Squire's bass didin't paralyze > me at some point in the show. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 08:27:07 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Impromptu Joni Cover <> You didn't name a name Blair, but I'm sure you're talking about a Jazz guitarist by the name of Bruce Anthony. In fact, I have his studio recordings of "The Jungle Line", "Dry Cleaner" & "Goodbye Pork Pie Hat". And I owe a BIG BIG thanks to JMDL'er Tim Spong who had this music & shared it with me. These songs were only available on demo tapes that Anthony made to promote himself. Wait 'til you hear his jazz guitar and vocal take on Jungle Line...phenomenal!! This will all be on Volume 24, already in the can and set for a December release. Bob NP: TMBG, "The Guitar" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 08:46:36 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Scoobie Newbie Doo <> I definitely know what you mean, Denknee!! Thanks for the great introductory post and welcome to the finest musical discussion list on the globe (and one of the busiest!) <> Correct, sir, and I appreciate the info! <> I started this project back in December '99, figuring I would be able to collect a ***couple*** CD's worth of covers of Joni songs. Once I started digging about...HOLY SHIT! I'm now working on Volume 25, CD #28! Les was kind enough to give me room at JMDL.com to detail the project, and you can check it out at: http://www.jmdl.com/covers/index.cfm ALL volumes are available, and I'll be glad to accomodate your wishes to get copies. Lemme know. And, when you pitch in and send me something from my "wish list", you get a free copy of the volume! Life is great! <> On Hejira, look at that arm segment with the bracelet. It never crossed my mind that this resembled a penis until I signed on with this warped group! :~D Thanks again for the intro...looking forward to hearing more from you, pal! Bob NP: TMBG, "Birdhouse In Your Soul" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 08:55:13 EDT From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: Re: joni and don henley, back-up singers to JT -video In a message dated 8/19/2001 9:45:49 PM Pacific Daylight Time, cactussong@home.com writes: Thanks for posting this, shane. I've always liked this Taylor tune for its harmonies and mood, but I didn't know it was Joni and Don on backgrounds, nor had I seen the vid. Sweet! Cool to see Joni dancing a bit, too. - -Julius > well, i'm getting more on this don henley joni connection...they look cute > together, and sound great too as backup singers to james taylor in the > following video (real media) of james taylor, only one: > http://www.james-taylor.com/gallery/OnlyOne.ram > shane ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 08:58:32 EDT From: Jennymac48@aol.com Subject: This is a joke, right? Kids, we DO know that the so called mysterious "penis"on the Hejira cover is Joni's left wrist disappearing into her pocket of her coat, right? With a thin bracelet causing the fisherman's hat effect, yes? Love Jennymac ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 06:33:25 -0700 From: "J. R. Mills" Subject: Re: This is a joke, right? > Kids, we DO know that the so called mysterious "penis"on the Hejira cover is > Joni's left wrist disappearing into her pocket of her coat, right? With a > thin bracelet causing the fisherman's hat effect, yes? > Love > Jennymac I knew *that* Jenny, but your "fisherman's hat effect" allusion is a new wrinkle. Now I visualize a penis-man standing at the front of some fishing vessel's stormy deck, with a head made of one of those slick yellow hats...and an eye patch...yelling "I'm king of the world!" like Leonardo DeCaprio in "Titanic." I've made an appointment for therapy, thank you. If it's penes you seek (that's the plural, pronounced like "pea knees") in Joni's cover art, see her "Sweet Sucker Dance" painting on the sleeve of _Mingus_. List members concur that there's a member there, no? - -Julius ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 15:33:26 From: "Timothy Spong" Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #254 Fellow list members, Blair Fraipont wrote: >Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 23:00:23 -0400 >From: "Blair Fraipont" >Subject: Impromptu Joni Cover > > Yesterday in Rehoboth Beach on Baltimore Avenue, this very good Jazz > >Guitarist performed 7-10pm. He did a couple Louis Jordan Numbers, a good > >old Satchmo cover and some originals. On his break he came into the cafe > >where I worked and I mentioned that he should do some Mingus. He >mentioned >that he once did Goodbye Porkpie Hat and that Joni Mitchell.... >That is >where I interrupted and said, YES! Her lyrics added so much to >that song, I >am a big fan. Well he and his wife were at the same show in >1998 at The >university of Maryland! We talked a bit and then he said that >he still does >a cover of The Jungle Line. I asked him if he could perform >it and he said >he definitely would. Obviously, it was quite different >from the Joni >Version, but his vocals brought out the magnitude and color of the lyrics > >that Joni had on HOSL. I was so pleased that i got to hear a Great joni > >cover and one of my favorite songs. Sorry, Bob I didnt have a tape >recorder >to have it included in Covers Volume 23..but who knows, it may >surface. > Sincerely, >Blair > And now, me: Blair is almost certainly describing Bruce Anthony, originally from Chester, Pa., a former fellow resident of Dover, Del., and since early 2000, a resident of Wilmington, Del. I have several of his recordings and have lent two of them, which included "Jungle Line," to Bob "SCJoniGuy" Muller to put on a future Covers volume. I went along with Bruce and his French-Canadian wife, Lyse, to the referenced 1998 U. of Md. show. We all had a great time. Tim Spong _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 15:58:21 +0000 From: "c Karma" Subject: re: Tim Curry cover "CBSASF" This reply may be late, but I believe the title of the Tim Curry album you seek is "Fearless." His first album (which I have in a box somewhere) has a cover of "All I Want." He takes some liberties with the lyric: "I want a hand up your sweater, I want to write you a love letter..." sung Frank'n furter style. Oh, Margaret. CC _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 12:00:05 -0500 From: "Mike Hicks" Subject: Lucy Webster/Joni/Jo Lee and the Wanted Do any of you on the musical cutting edge know anything about Lucy Webster? I heard a song on public radio called "Red Jaguar". This girl sounds a lot like Joni. This particular song had a lot of Joni's song mannerisms. I need to know more about this one. While we're at it there's a group called Jo Lee and the Wanted, supposedly a country band, that sounds like they have some potential. I would appreciate any info on these two. Mike ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 11:29:39 -0500 From: Steve Polifka Subject: Paz' Blues Paz's Blues (Key of E, of course...) My name is Micheal Paz My back's done gone and spazed My name is Micheal Paz My back's done gone and spazed And I got more autographs Than any of y'all has... Live in a shack on the bayou Down in New Orleans Jumpin' hip-hoppin' shack on the bayou Down in New Orleans And I've been playin' these damn three chords Since I was in my teens... I gots a funky keyboard And I gots me a VG-8 I gots a funky keyboard And I gots me a VG-8 I'm playin' Yes and Joni And stayin' up way too late... Now I'm rollin' in the airport On this here chair with wheels Rock and rollin' in the airport In this chair with wheels And I ain't givin' up the good life With my cheufer in heels (That's right, stillettos!) Gonna roll on down to Topsfield Singin' and drinkin' gin Rock and rollin' up in Topsfield Singin' and drinkin' gin In jus' eleven days My favorite party done begin Yea in just a few short days, That Joni -rockin', martini shakin', booty-slappin' heart- poundin', disco polka party does begin.... Scooby doobie do... Good Gawd, Y'all! Luv ya!~ Steve Steve ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 13:02:02 EDT From: MDESTE1@aol.com Subject: Re: Paz' Blues Good Evening, here on saturday Night live this is your host, Leonard Pinth Garnell. Tonight we take a sojourn down that long and dusty road to frolic amongst the more rural strains of the terpsicordian muse. With history as our guide but suffering as always with the cards that we were dealt tonight I bring you BAD BLUES MUSIC.......Insufferably bad blues music but blues music nonetheless......take it away....... Paz's Blues (Key of E, of course...) My name is Micheal Paz My back's done gone and spazed My name is Micheal Paz My back's done gone and spazed And I got more autographs Than any of y'all has... Live in a shack on the bayou Down in New Orleans Jumpin' hip-hoppin' shack on the bayou Down in New Orleans And I've been playin' these damn three chords Since I was in my teens... I gots a funky keyboard And I gots me a VG-8 I gots a funky keyboard And I gots me a VG-8 I'm playin' Yes and Joni And stayin' up way too late... Now I'm rollin' in the airport On this here chair with wheels Rock and rollin' in the airport In this chair with wheels And I ain't givin' up the good life With my cheufer in heels (That's right, stillettos!) Gonna roll on down to Topsfield Singin' and drinkin' gin Rock and rollin' up in Topsfield Singin' and drinkin' gin In jus' eleven days My favorite party done begin Yea in just a few short days, That Joni -rockin', martini shakin', booty-slappin' heart- poundin', disco polka party does begin.... Scooby doobie do... Good Gawd, Y'all! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 12:16:06 -0500 From: "Sybil Skelton" Subject: Radio VLJC This excerpt is from a piece by the radio columnist for the Fort Worth Star Telegram. I was reading his column today, and this just hit me between the eyes. This is exactly how I feel about radio these days, and if there are at least two of us there must be more. If I ran radio, here's what you'd hear Robert Philpot - Commentary "Hey, it's nice to be noticed, but it took awhile to catch my breath after I fell out of my chair laughing at the thought that a radio station would actually listen to me. If radio programmers listened to me... oldies and classic-rock stations wouldn't play the same 400 songs over and over and over and ... If radio stations listened to me, Richard Thompson, Elvis Costello, Joni Mitchell, the Specials, Lucinda Williams, Randy Newman, Morphine and '80s R.E.M. would get a lot more airplay than they do now. The rockingest songs of Stevie Wonder, War, the Temptations and Sly and the Family Stone would play on stations that play Bob Seger, Led Zeppelin and Bruce Springsteen, like they did when I was growing up. If radio stations listened to me, I'd never have to hear Stairway to Heaven again, and anything from what was once known as side three of Led Zeppelin's Physical Graffiti would serve as an acceptable substitute. If radio stations listened to me, they would probably go broke. Radio stations listen to their corporate owners, to Arbitron, to advertisers, to focus groups and to request lines, in just about that order. Which is why everything is so danged bland." My question is why don't radio stations listen to him??? I honestly believe that Stairway to Heaven is probably the greatest rock song ever, but I don't fully appreciate its greatness when I hear it EVERY DAY. And what is up with the narrow focus of playlists? Why can't you hear a Temptations song on the same station that plays Springsteen? I hear Lifehouse and Creed on the same stations that play Nsync and Destiny's Child - what is the difference? Aren't some of the listmembers here involved in the music biz, albeit perhaps not directly in radio. Perhaps someone can enlighten me. And last but not least, why don't I hear Joni on the radio at all any more? GRRRRR Sybil _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 12:20:44 -0500 From: Steve Polifka Subject: Re: Paz' Blues At 01:02 PM 8/20/01 EDT, you wrote: >Good Evening, here on saturday Night live this is your host, Leonard Pinth Garnell. Tonight we take a sojourn down that long and dusty road to frolic amongst the more rural strains of the terpsicordian muse. With history as our guide but suffering as always with the cards that we were dealt tonight I bring you BAD BLUES MUSIC.......Insufferably bad blues music but blues music nonetheless......take it away....... > >Paz's Blues >(Key of E, of course...) > >My name is Micheal Paz >My back's done gone and spazed >My name is Micheal Paz >My back's done gone and spazed >And I got more autographs >Than any of y'all has... > >Live in a shack on the bayou >Down in New Orleans >Jumpin' hip-hoppin' shack on the bayou >Down in New Orleans >And I've been playin' these damn three chords >Since I was in my teens... > >I gots a funky keyboard >And I gots me a VG-8 >I gots a funky keyboard >And I gots me a VG-8 >I'm playin' Yes and Joni >And stayin' up way too late... > >Now I'm rollin' in the airport >On this here chair with wheels >Rock and rollin' in the airport >In this chair with wheels >And I ain't givin' up the good life >With my cheufer in heels >(That's right, stillettos!) > >Gonna roll on down to Topsfield >Singin' and drinkin' gin >Rock and rollin' up in Topsfield >Singin' and drinkin' gin >In jus' eleven days >My favorite party done begin > >Yea in just a few short days, >That Joni -rockin', martini shakin', booty-slappin' >heart- poundin', disco polka party >does begin.... >Scooby doobie do... >Good Gawd, Y'all! > > > > Steve ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 18:36:01 +0100 From: colin Subject: Re: This is a joke, right? > If it's penes you seek (that's the plural, pronounced like "pea knees") it's peni-pronounced pee nigh!!!!! ;-) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 10:41:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Rowe Subject: Re: Radio VLJC Amen! And what's good for "Stairway ..." is probably also good for the Joni that you DO still hear on the radio -- though it be as rare as a perfect game in Major League Baseball. If I could find ANY station that opted for, say, "Offnight Back Street" instead of "Both Sides Now" ... or "Strange Boy" instead of "Big Yellow Taxi" ... I'd rip the knobs off my radio and not look back! ;-) Of course it'll never happen. Don Rowe ===== Visit me anytime at http://www.mp3.com/donrowe Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 14:09:54 -0500 From: "Mike Hicks" Subject: Re: Lucy Webster/Joni/Jo Lee and the Wanted > From: KJHSF@aol.com > Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 12:52:57 EDT > Subject: Re: Lucy Webster/Joni/Jo Lee and the Wanted > To: m_hicks@aiken.k12.sc.us > Good Afternoon!!! > I heard Lucy Webster on a college station in Cleveland about ten years ago, > and had given up on finding out anything about her. By the time I got to a > phone and called the station, the DJ who played her was gone. I still look > for her CD whenever I'm in a big record store, like Amoeba in Berkeley, but > it's been of no use. No one I know has ever heard of her. In fact, you are > the first person I've come across who knows her! Let me know if you have any > success and I'll do the same. Good Luck! > All My Best > Ken from SF Ken, I am researching her now. I am contacting the radio station via email, so when I hear something I'll let you know. The song I heard "Red Jaguar" sounded much like Joni Mitchell. Sounded reeeeal good. Mike ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 12:29:55 -0600 From: "shane mattison" Subject: joni " love tester" for fun, you can test joni on "the love tester"...just get her name into the first window, then test her with any of almost 3000 others listed... i tested her with graham nash and james taylor, where JT scored higher on the love and friendship and dating angle... have fun: http://www.bassita.com/index.php3 shane ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 14:10:34 -0500 From: "Donna J. Binkley" Subject: RE: Lucy Webster/Joni/Jo Lee and the Wanted try www.lucywebster.com and tell me if this is the same person you are looking for. It's a singer/songwriter website. db - -----Original Message----- From: les@jmdl.com [mailto:les@jmdl.com]On Behalf Of Mike Hicks Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 2:10 PM To: KJHSF@aol.com Cc: joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: Lucy Webster/Joni/Jo Lee and the Wanted > From: KJHSF@aol.com > Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 12:52:57 EDT > Subject: Re: Lucy Webster/Joni/Jo Lee and the Wanted > To: m_hicks@aiken.k12.sc.us > Good Afternoon!!! > I heard Lucy Webster on a college station in Cleveland about ten years ago, > and had given up on finding out anything about her. By the time I got to a > phone and called the station, the DJ who played her was gone. I still look > for her CD whenever I'm in a big record store, like Amoeba in Berkeley, but > it's been of no use. No one I know has ever heard of her. In fact, you are > the first person I've come across who knows her! Let me know if you have any > success and I'll do the same. Good Luck! > All My Best > Ken from SF Ken, I am researching her now. I am contacting the radio station via email, so when I hear something I'll let you know. The song I heard "Red Jaguar" sounded much like Joni Mitchell. Sounded reeeeal good. Mike ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 14:17:15 -0500 From: "Donna J. Binkley" Subject: RE: Lucy Webster/Joni/Jo Lee and the Wanted This has got to be the same woman, i'm listening to her right now through my computer and she does sound very much like Joni, i'll be ordering this cd...db - -----Original Message----- From: les@jmdl.com [mailto:les@jmdl.com]On Behalf Of Mike Hicks Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 2:10 PM To: KJHSF@aol.com Cc: joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: Lucy Webster/Joni/Jo Lee and the Wanted > From: KJHSF@aol.com > Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 12:52:57 EDT > Subject: Re: Lucy Webster/Joni/Jo Lee and the Wanted > To: m_hicks@aiken.k12.sc.us > Good Afternoon!!! > I heard Lucy Webster on a college station in Cleveland about ten years ago, > and had given up on finding out anything about her. By the time I got to a > phone and called the station, the DJ who played her was gone. I still look > for her CD whenever I'm in a big record store, like Amoeba in Berkeley, but > it's been of no use. No one I know has ever heard of her. In fact, you are > the first person I've come across who knows her! Let me know if you have any > success and I'll do the same. Good Luck! > All My Best > Ken from SF Ken, I am researching her now. I am contacting the radio station via email, so when I hear something I'll let you know. The song I heard "Red Jaguar" sounded much like Joni Mitchell. Sounded reeeeal good. Mike ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 15:50:36 -0400 From: "denknee" Subject: Covers and, uh, covers Thank you, thank you, thank you, folks, for the warm welcome. Okay, I figured out the 'Hejira' prick, er, pic ... still having trouble with the 'Clouds' cover, tho. I even yanked out the lp to have a better look-see. Still, no-go. A hint, perhaps? Is "it" in Joni's hair? Hiding in her fingers if you look at the picture at a 35.75 degree angle? In the leaves of the flower? In the river's reflection of the building if you hold it up to a mirror and squint really, really hard? Maybe David Geffen is hiding in the bushes in the all togethers and I just can't see him (nor the forest) for the trees... Holy mackerel, Bob, that is one totally awesome covers project you overtook! Absolutely amazing!! I'm trying to pull together a similar project with Laura Nyro covers. I thought what I had gathered so far was pretty impressive, but your Joni list totally dwarfs mine. Of course Joni's tunes have had a lot more coverage, tho, too. I tried to find something to add to it, but you have it ALL covered! Even my more obscure titles showed up on your list. But, I could add "Both Sides Now" by Bola Sete on his 'Working On A Groovy Thing' lp on Paramount Records # PAS 5011. It may very well be the same version you have listed ... my copy has liner notes written by Ralph Gleason and includes a couple of Beatles tunes, plus CSN's "Suite: Judy Blue Eyes" and Nyro's "Wedding Bell Blues" (if those clues mean anything to ya). And I DO have that Nick DeCaro 'Italian Graffiti' album - if you still need Joni's "All I Want" from it, just lemme know. Oh, and how about 'The Best of Lambert, Hendricks and Ross' on Columbia #C 32911 from 1974 (previously released as 'The Hottest New Group in Jazz' as CS 8198) collecting the original recordings of "Twisted" (Annie Ross - solo), "Centerpiece", and "Summertime" (which, we know, Joni sang on 'Herbie Hancock's 'Gershwin's World' disc)? And, you could probably go nuts tracking down every little reissue, but, I also have "Urge for Going" on George Hamilton IV's 'The Best of George Hamilton IV' album on RCA Victor #LSP-4265 - from 1970 - in case you happen to be a completist (would that be an understatement? ). ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 16:13:30 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Covers and, uh, covers <> Cool! I've tried to track that one down with no luck, so I'd love the assistance. If you're comfortable with it you can send me the album and I can dub it direct to disc, or you can record the track on high bias tape and send me the tape, or if you're REALLY hi-tech, record it as an MP3 and e-mail it to me. Obviously, I will gladly return your source media to you at my expense, and send you a complimentary copy of the compilation when it's completed. <> I already have a LHR Ross version of "Twisted" & "Centerpiece", and I wouldn't even THINK of collecting covers of "Summertime" - that'd be a whole 'nuther animal! ;~) < ).>> I would guess that it's the same recording he put out originally...even if it's different, it's probably more or less the same. So I think we're all right on that. But I *AM* excited about that Nick DeCaro, so let me know off-list about completing the exchange, and your name can join the Looooong list of JMDL contributors, without whom I would be hurtin' fer certain! Your Nyro project sounds pretty cool too! All I know are the obvious ones; Three Dog Night, Fifth Dimension, etc. I didn't care too much for the 'official' Nyro tribute disc. Bob, who also today picked up new covers of "The Priest" and a vocal version of "Chair In The Sky"!! NP: Townsend-Lane, "Annie" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 17:24:42 -0700 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Paz' Blues Oh my gawd you people are just trying to make me hurt my back even more from laughing so much. The back is much better today, but if I keep have these knee jerk laughing sessions I could wind up in traction. Paz on 8/20/01 9:29 AM, Steve Polifka at polifkas@milwaukee.tec.wi.us wrote: > Paz's Blues > (Key of E, of course...) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 18:40:46 EDT From: Merk54@aol.com Subject: RE: Lucy Webster/Joni/Jo Lee and the Wanted Well, based upon comments about Lucy Webster, I decided to check out her website for myself. One of the things I found the most intersting was under the link called Fun Events! There in all it's glory, was an advertisement for the First Annual JoniFest at the Gypsy Cafe! Unfortunately, this is an ad for something that has already occurred, but I still think it was pretty cool! I guess I'm going to have to buy her CD now as well. Jack ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 17:55:48 -0700 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: This is a joke, right? AKA "La Cara de Papa" Paz (reduced to dick jokes) on 8/20/01 5:58 AM, Jennymac48@aol.com at Jennymac48@aol.com wrote: > Kids, we DO know that the so called mysterious "penis"on the Hejira cover is > Joni's left wrist disappearing into her pocket of her coat, right? With a > thin bracelet causing the fisherman's hat effect, yes? > Love > Jennymac ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 18:37:28 -0700 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Radio VLJC I can NOT agree with you more Sybil. I am in the music business, but all that means is that I have far less influence than anyone else does as a consumer. You answered your own question here in your fifth paragraph. It's really ALL ABOUT THE MONEY. I don't even think the request line has that much to do with it anymore. Maybe it's time to band together and and create our own cause and boycott all these corporate monsters and make a change. I have control at work where I program my own radio station on Sonicnet, but it has its downfalls as well. I remember when I was a teenager living in Honduras and we use to go out to the drive ins or wherever and tune into KAAY out of Little Rock, Arkansas, late at night they had a show called "Beeker Street" and they use to play some amazing shit. As I was atelling Victor and Bob as we left the Yes show and tuned 92.thesame200fuckingclassicrocksongswealwaysplay, and they proceeded to play pre approved music from Yes that the first 3 were all songs by the Yes West Band (WITH Trevor Rabin Owner of a Lonely Heart, It Can Happen, and Love Will Find Away-ALL GREAT SONGS MIND YOU and then of course fucking Roundabout) The committed to his audience DJ took phone calls from the fans and of course the majority of them all mentioned "the hits" even if they didn't know the correct name of the song (Runaround is almost the title) well you get my drift/diatribe. HOW DO YOU THINK STEVE HOWE WOULD FEEL?????? What if his savvy Tour Manager Paul would have said lets tune into 92.whatever and promote the upcoming album and the band is in the limo listening to this shit on the radio and they play 3 tunes from a band that doesn't even exist anymore??? Don't get me wrong I love Trevor, but commercial success isn't everything. Oh well I guess you have figured olut by now i have a couple of opinions about radio. What do you say we join forces and take down the machine? UP the MUSIC revolution!!!! Singer songwriters should not have to go on their knees, into debt, give up points and percentages, for anyone to get played on the radio. They ought to hire *****people***** to work as DJ's and let THEM pcik what they wanna play. And let the people who listen to the stations pick the DJ's they want to listen based on their performance of their job. YEAH thats it! Paz (obviously on my second martini) on 8/20/01 10:16 AM, Sybil Skelton at sybilskelton@hotmail.com wrote: > This excerpt is from a piece by the radio columnist for the Fort Worth Star > Telegram. I was reading his column today, and this just hit me between the > eyes. This is exactly how I feel about radio these days, and if there are > at least two of us there must be more. > > If I ran radio, here's what you'd hear > Robert Philpot - Commentary > > > "Hey, it's nice to be noticed, but it took awhile to catch my breath after I > fell out of my chair laughing at the thought that a radio station would > actually listen to me. If radio programmers listened to me... oldies and > classic-rock stations wouldn't play the same 400 songs over and over and > over and ... > > If radio stations listened to me, Richard Thompson, Elvis Costello, Joni > Mitchell, the Specials, Lucinda Williams, Randy Newman, Morphine and '80s > R.E.M. would get a lot more airplay than they do now. The rockingest songs > of Stevie Wonder, War, the Temptations and Sly and the Family Stone would > play on stations that play Bob Seger, Led Zeppelin and Bruce Springsteen, > like they did when I was growing up. If radio stations listened to me, I'd > never have to hear Stairway to Heaven again, and anything from what was once > known as side three of Led Zeppelin's Physical Graffiti would serve as an > acceptable substitute. > > If radio stations listened to me, they would probably go broke. Radio > stations listen to their corporate owners, to Arbitron, to advertisers, to > focus groups and to request lines, in just about that order. Which is why > everything is so danged bland." > > My question is why don't radio stations listen to him??? I honestly believe > that Stairway to Heaven is probably the greatest rock song ever, but I don't > fully appreciate its greatness when I hear it EVERY DAY. And what is up with > the narrow focus of playlists? Why can't you hear a Temptations song on the > same station that plays Springsteen? I hear Lifehouse and Creed on the same > stations that play Nsync and Destiny's Child - what is the difference? > > Aren't some of the listmembers here involved in the music biz, albeit > perhaps not directly in radio. Perhaps someone can enlighten me. > > And last but not least, why don't I hear Joni on the radio at all any more? > GRRRRR > > > Sybil > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 18:15:43 -0600 From: "shane mattison" Subject: pope only asked joni and bob it is well known that dylan performed for the pope at the world eucharistic congress in bologna... but it wasn't well known that dylan said he was the only 'american' asked to do so...other than joni mitchell... http://www.edlis.org/twice/threads/dylan_hospitalization_update.html shane ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 20:36:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: This is a joke, right? - --- Jennymac48@aol.com wrote: > Kids, we DO know that the so called mysterious > "penis"on the Hejira cover is > Joni's left wrist disappearing into her pocket of > her coat, right? With a > thin bracelet causing the fisherman's hat effect, > yes? Some of you have *very* sick minds. I'm seriously worried about you. How many of this came up with this independently? How many of you started looking for this stuff after reading "Subliminal seduction" (remember that one?) I had to dig out the damn album and look really close at it, and now it will never be the same. For shame, for shame... Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 19:47:25 -0500 From: Mark Domyancich Subject: Re: This is a joke, right? It was that sex fiend, Julie Z. Webb. Yes, it sort of looks like a wang-dang-doodle, but come on! Of course it's just Joni's braceletted hand diving into her black cloak. Mark NP-Grateful Dead, 5/9/77-Big River At 8:36 PM -0400 8/20/01, Catherine McKay wrote: >--- Jennymac48@aol.com wrote: >> Kids, we DO know that the so called mysterious >> "penis"on the Hejira cover is >> Joni's left wrist disappearing into her pocket of >> her coat, right? With a >> thin bracelet causing the fisherman's hat effect, >> yes? > >Some of you have *very* sick minds. I'm seriously >worried about you. How many of this came up with this >independently? How many of you started looking for >this stuff after reading "Subliminal seduction" >(remember that one?) I had to dig out the damn album >and look really close at it, and now it will never be >the same. For shame, for shame... >Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 20:56:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: This is a joke, right? - --- colin wrote: > > If it's penes you seek (that's the plural, > pronounced like "pea knees") > > it's peni-pronounced pee nigh!!!!! ;-) Nope. It would only be peni if the singular were penus. Still remembering my Latin nouns of the 2nd declension: murus, muri, muro, murum, mure, muro; muri, murorum, etc. Penis would be a third declension noun and I dropped Latin right about the time we got into that - all those stupid noun endings - no wonder it's a dead language - by the time people figured out how to say what they were going to say, it was too late. Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 18:34:28 -0700 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: Radio VLJC I remember when I was a teenager living in > Honduras and we use to go out to the drive ins or wherever and tune into > KAAY out of Little Rock, Arkansas, late at night they had a show called > "Beeker Street" and they use to play some amazing shit. We used to get KAAY in Keokuk, Iowa back when I was in my 20s. Beeker Street was truly alternative radio. You'd hear stuff ont that show that you'd never in a million years hear anywhere else. Great station to tune into when you're out cruisin' around after midnight with nothin' to do and nowhere to go.... Thanks for you reviews of the show, guys. Yes is one band I wanted to see badly back when I was in college and never got the chance. I kinda lost interest in them as the years went by. But I do agree with Bob, 'The Yes Album' is one of those records that seems to fit together like the workings of a clock. And 'Close to the Edge' is one of my alltime favorites. Such beautiful, expansive music. Michael, I've suffered from recurrent back problems for years. I feel for you, bro. Hope it's better soon. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 20:41:31 -0500 From: "kerry" Subject: Radio Sybil wrote: >And last but not least, why don't I hear Joni on the radio at all any more? >GRRRRR This is so ironic. Last night, I was setting my clock radio and flipping stations when I heard, "I Had a King!!!" I could NOT believe it, so I waited to find out the station. It was a smooth jazz station (which I never listen to) and the DJ, in a very whispery voice said that they were playing "soft songs..." I agree that radio is in a sad state. The classic rock station here plays the same 2 Supertramp songs EVERY DAY and pretty much ignores Neil Young, Dylan, Janis, Jimi, etc. What's wrong with this picture? Don't get me started!!!!! Kerry ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 18:39:51 -0700 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: "Songs of Leonard Cohen"(SJC) > << I've been listening to this album a lot recently. I don't know much about > music, but I can tell that this is great music! I The songs are so moving, > and beautiful... >> > > Amen to that! Timeless songs, sung with a real tenderness, and lyrics which > unlike most in rock can be called poetic without any hint of hyperbole. Hey > That's No Way To Say Goodbye, Suzanne and Stories of the Street are my > favourites, but they're all great. Sisters of Mercy and The Stranger Song are two of my favorites. I still think Cohen was Joni's 'Priest' in the song of that name. Mark E ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 19:07:14 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Subject: Radio VLJC Sybil asked "Aren't some of the listmembers here involved in the music biz, albeit perhaps not directly in radio. Perhaps someone can enlighten me." I am sure Brenda has a much more intelligent response but my answer is two words: Clear Channel, the corporatation that has bought up the majority of commercial radio stations & is now venturing into the concert promotion business which I do not think is a positive thing. I do not think that fm radio as we know it is going to survive. How can it when there are so many great alternatives like you can get via the web or satellite tv? ...where you can hear a huge variety of great music...that is unless there are some regulations passed that put the small digital radio folks out of business...i just learned of something that was recently passed that could mean trouble for digital radio...don't have the details maybe Brenda does... ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics www.polysonics.com Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 22:38:49 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: "Songs of Leonard Cohen"(SJC) In a message dated 8/20/01 9:41:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mark.travis@gte.net writes: > << I've been listening to this album a lot recently. I don't know > much about > > music, but I can tell that this is great music! I The songs are so > moving, > > and beautiful... >> > > > > Amen to that! Timeless songs, sung with a real tenderness, and > lyrics which > > unlike most in rock can be called poetic without any hint of > hyperbole. Hey > > That's No Way To Say Goodbye, Suzanne and Stories of the Street are > my > > favourites, but they're all great. > > Sisters of Mercy and The Stranger Song are two of my favorites. I > still think Cohen was Joni's 'Priest' in the song of that name. > > These are some of my favorites as well I love Leonard Cohen Have you ever checked out this fan site. It's the most comprehensive that I've found yet. They hold fest gatherings as well Next year it will be held in Hydra, Greece. They've set a limit of 275 participants and I think that they've already reached that. The reason they chose this place was because Cohen lived there for a while and wrote his second novel "Beautiful Losers" as well as many songs and poems. This poem is on the main page of their website. Beautiful, isn't it? One by one the guests arrive The guests are coming through The open-hearted many The broken-hearted few And those who dance begin to dance And those who weep begin Welcome, welcome, cries a voice Let all my guests come in "The Guests" by Leonard Cohen rosemjoy@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 22:43:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Radio VLJC - --- Michael Paz wrote: > I can NOT agree with you more Sybil. I am in the > music business, but all > that means is that I have far less influence than > anyone else does as a > consumer. You answered your own question here in > your fifth paragraph. It's > really ALL ABOUT THE MONEY. I don't even think the > request line has that > much to do with it anymore. Maybe it's time to band > together and and create > our own cause and boycott all these corporate > monsters and make a change. Arrggghhh! I'm already boycotting them and it ain't working! I swear, if I hear Janet Jackson with that guldarn America/Erik Satie thing one more time, I'm going to throw up! I know there are a lot of Janet fans on this list. Even though I totally *don't get it*, how many times can they play the same frikkin' song??? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 21:54:25 -0700 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Radio VLJC Mark- Thanks alot. It is so amazing how much we all have in common collectively. Just got off the phone with the Mixon's and ChuckE talking about duh *MUSIC* and I am feeling that warm fuzzy feeling again. I have that feeling that this year is gonna be the bomb. I don't recall seeing your name on the guest list and I have one question for you. WHY THE FUCK NOT???????? Love Paz on 8/20/01 6:34 PM, Mark or Travis at mark.travis@gte.net wrote: > I remember when I was a teenager living in >> Honduras and we use to go out to the drive ins or wherever and tune > into >> KAAY out of Little Rock, Arkansas, late at night they had a show > called >> "Beeker Street" and they use to play some amazing shit. > > We used to get KAAY in Keokuk, Iowa back when I was in my 20s. Beeker > Street was truly alternative radio. You'd hear stuff ont that show > that you'd never in a million years hear anywhere else. Great station > to tune into when you're out cruisin' around after midnight with > nothin' to do and nowhere to go.... > > Thanks for you reviews of the show, guys. Yes is one band I wanted to > see badly back when I was in college and never got the chance. I > kinda lost interest in them as the years went by. But I do agree with > Bob, 'The Yes Album' is one of those records that seems to fit > together like the workings of a clock. And 'Close to the Edge' is one > of my alltime favorites. Such beautiful, expansive music. > > Michael, > I've suffered from recurrent back problems for years. I feel for you, > bro. Hope it's better soon. > > Mark ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 22:09:04 -0700 From: Michael Paz Subject: FW: the song "Woodstock" This was posted on the Lee Shore list and I thought some of you trivia folks ,might enjoy the read even tho it has more actual CSNY content that accurate Joni content Paz - ---------- From: Stephen Barncard Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 17:11:39 -0700 To: lee-shore@geoclio.st.usm.edu Subject: Re: the song "Woodstock" The opening riff was most definitely Neil. I was with the band in the studio in 1969 when they cut it. They were coming off the high of the festival; it couldn't have been more than a couple of months since the show. They had decided to cut what was to become the 'Deja Vu' album in San Francisco, and to use the company that they used for the first album, at Wally Heider recording. Earlier that summer I had been looking for a job in the business but wanted to live in San Francisco. I got hired two weeks before the sessions. It was one of the first songs that was cut there. Bill Halverson hadn't been hired back yet and Russ Gary, the staff engineer that was assigned to train me, cut the track live in the studio. Joni had to sit out the festival in a hotel in New York, but was probably inspired by what she saw on the TV news and the stories brought back by the guys. All of them ended up on the Dick Cavett show (videos exist) with mud on their clothes, describing what had happened to the audience on TV. I imagine she wrote the song within a few hours or days of these events. Contrast the high of the festival (imagine 500,000 people screaming at YOU) with David's loss of his lady Christine, and you get an idea of the tension in the room when it was recorded. You could cut it with a knife. One of the most amazing things I had ever seen in the studio to this day. One or two takes at the most, and the track was done, the vocals cut the next two days. Stills did a few vocal takes on the lead, Nash put the high parts on top - two part, all three did the choruses and I nearly went through the roof. They were FAST! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 20:10:01 -0700 From: "Brenda J. Walker" Subject: Re: Radio VLJC - long Michael Paz wrote: > You answered your own question here in your fifth paragraph. It's > really ALL ABOUT THE MONEY. I don't even think the request line has that > much to do with it anymore. Maybe it's time to band together and and create > our own cause and boycott all these corporate monsters and make a change. Paz you hit it right on the head. Money. Money gets you on the air. Eric Boehlart at Salon has written an excellent series of articles about payola, corporate behemoth Clear Channel Communications (which owns nearly 1,200 stations!) and the sad state of U.S. radio. Here are two of them which really answer Sybil's question: Pay for play - http://www.salon.com/ent/feature/2001/03/14/payola/index.html Why does radio suck? Because most stations play only the songs the record companies pay them to. And things are going to get worse. Radio's big bully - http://www.salon.com/ent/feature/2001/04/30/clear_channel/index.html Dirty tricks and crappy programming: Welcome to the world of Clear Channel, the biggest station owner in America. As far as the request line goes, it means absolutely nothing at most radio stations now. The corporate owned stations aren't even programmed by people anymore. There is a software system at the corporate headquarters where songs are selected based on certain metadata. The system generates a playlist and the local station complies. That's why as you drive around the country you hear the same songs on "classic rock" radio (or on adult contemporary or country for that matter). Clear Channel has even decided to eliminate local DJ's so you'll even hear the same voices with the program modified slightly to sound as if it is local. At the heart of our radio woes is the well-intentioned but disastrous Telecommunications Act of 1996. The relaxing of ownership restrictions decreased competition and opened the door for Clear Channel to become the monster that it is. From Clear Channel's web site: "Clear Channel is radio. One out of every ten radio stations across the United States broadcasts under the Clear Channels banner and the companys approximate 1,170 stations bill a full 20% of total industry revenue. No one is bigger, better or more intense than Clear Channel Radio....Clear Channels mission is to broadcast the best programming to the broadest audience providing the best value to advertisers." Clear Channel does not care about listeners. They want the broadest audience possible to deliver to advertisers. So the songs which make it on air are the ones that are least likely to offend people. I recall sitting in a meeting with a radio research company where they basically explained that the corporate radio owners wanted songs that do not illicit strong emotions, either positive or negative. What a laugh, right!? If a song is too good, they don't want to play it. That's why you don't hear someone like Joni on the radio. If you really want to do something, I think any of these are viable options: 1) Boycott Clear Channel stations. Not just because of their bad taste but also because they have pulled out of local charities which their stations previously supported (once even demanding to get a donation returned), allowed animals to be killed live on air and they are frequently on dubious ground when it comes to how they treat their employees, particularly where sexual harassment is concerned. There's a convenient searchable database on their web site where you can check to see what stations they own in your area - http://www.clearchannel.com/radio/back.html 2) Write you representatives about repealing the Telcom Act of 1996. 3) Listen to independently owned or internet radio. There are some great DJ's working on the internet. Here's one site that I'm really digging - http://www.killradio.org/ and Trust the DJ is cool http:/www.trustthedj.com . And check out Americans for Radio Diversity - http://www.radiodiversity.com/index2.shtml and the Corporate Media Portal - http://www.partytown.com/cmp/ . These are just two of the budding legion of sites devoted to ending the giant sucking sound that is U.S. radio. Brenda n.p.: Groovetech - Seattle ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #255 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?