From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #225 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Monday, July 23 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 225 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. Information on the 4th "Annual" New England JoniFest: http://www.jmdl.com/jfne2001.cfm ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Today in Joni History: July 22 [les@jmdl.com] RE: jonis speaking voice, Long ["Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: RE: jonis speaking voice, Long Relayer2 said, > I noticed in the JM companion, that she altered the details of > the same > stories in various interviews. Did anyone else notice this. Ummmm. Yeah. Very much so. Some of the stories are shaded differently with different tellings but some are just plain hard to uhmmmm accept. Uhmmmm. There are some statements that I don't believe at all and some that I merely suspect aren't completely factual. Ms. Mitchell once said that "Chinese Cafe" isn't 'about' Carole King. I recognize that all of Life is assimilated by a Songwriter and act as fodder for Reflection. Eventually, some Pieces of Experience come out in a stylized form in a song. But folks..... If "Chinese Cafe" isn't **about** a conversation with Carole King, then "Being For The Benefit Of Mister Kite" isn't **about** a circus poster! To say, "I had an amazing, deeply philosophical visit with Carole and got this song from the experience," would not lessen the Art to me at all. So, that's one story that I just flat-out don't believe. She's busted. Next..... Moving on to the title "Hejira". Joni has claimed that she was browsing a dictionary with half-a-mind to find a word to describe 'Leaving the dream, no blame.' (Yeah, she speaks like that.) So, she claims that her eye seized upon the word Hejira because of the dangling 'j', like in "Aja". When she read the definition, she realized that she had found her word. (As if her *eye* had mystically lead her intellect to the appropriate word.) I dunno. Maybe she _does_ browse the dictionary. (I don't, but then I haven't written poetry or songs.) I suppose it's possible that she was browsing a dictionary. I think it's more likely that she was _discussing_ this lack of a key word with some world class intellectuals, songwriters, jazz musicians, and other movers and shakers in her fascinating Circle. I mean, if her tax accountant was from Jordan and offered "Hejira", is that a quotable story? It is not. (no offense to Jordanian immigrants, nor to tax accountants.) And so I come to Deb Messling's post. Deb offered: >>>>Reading that Hadju book about Farina et al. reminded me that strong-minded, ambitious, creative people are often very conscious of the stories they weave and the image they project. I'm not sure that Joni will let the literal truth stand in the way of a good story! Maybe her story conveys some deeper truth, and may maybe it just supports the image that Joni as a businesswoman is selling to the public at a particular point in time. >>>>> I think Deb hits the proverbial nail on the head as usual here. (Hi Deb! Don't lurk so!) After being in the "Fish Bowl" for 30 years, Ms. Mitchell knows that the stories she weaves during an interview will act as "coming attractions", as commercials, for her albums. While she's not overtly involved in promotion, I think she's an incredibly gifted interviewee and she Knows it. (But as Paul IV once noted, what do you expect to hear on a list named for the subject!) In my opinion, Ms. Mitchell is a Bright Person. I presume that she knows that during an interview she's being granted a Forum for her ideas. If she makes a point colorfully and memorably, she racks up more points on the "Interview" pinball game. So, I approve of using Artistic License to paint colorful interviews. Still, I don't believe for one second believe that Chinese Cafe is Any Kind of composite. Well, enough of that. As a fan, I love the stories about the gestation of "Magdalene Laundries". And the making of "Sunny Sunday". Rock on Joni. We love your stories, sweetheart. I love to write for you guys...... Lama Notes to those new to the Discussion List: Joni plays pinball, hence the pinball metaphor. "Fish Bowl" is a blank verse poem about fame that Joni wrote for an English assignment in high school. She tells the story on one of the Tape Trees. I'll begin offering tons of interviews and live performances again soon on cassette to fans who crave them. BTW, does anyone have any experience with Phillips and Creative brand CD-R burners? I have an opportunity to purchase an overstock 8x burner from either brand for $75, new. Across town, another store is only selling the newer 12x burners.... for twice as much money. I don't feel the need.... the need.... for speed. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 20:11:19 -0400 From: Vince Lavieri Subject: George Harrison =?iso-8859-1?Q?NJ=C7?= George was always my Beatles. I am saying prayers for George and marveling at his grace while I am crying. He was such a vital part of the Beatles and contributed so much as a Beatles and on his own, and was one of the most decent people, concerned with things of importance -- God's strength to George Harrison. (the Rev) Vince ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 21:04:56 EDT From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:=20George=20Harrison=20NJ=C7?= In a message dated 7/22/01 8:21:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time, revrvl@chartermi.net writes: > I am saying prayers for George and marveling at his grace while I am > crying. > > He was such a vital part of the Beatles and contributed so much as a > Beatles and on his own, and was one of the most decent people, concerned > with things of importance -- > > Was? What are you talking about? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 21:15:54 -0700 From: Lindsay Moon Subject: Seeking Joni Interview Participant Info. I'm in the process of transcribing Joni's 1988 interview with excerpts from CMIARS that was recorded in Engand. Does anyone know who the interviewer is? It's a great, long interview, and I'd rather have a name to identify the interviewer than "Announcer." This transcription will be added to the others for Les's site. Thanks for your help. Lindsay ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 22:22:41 -0700 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: Some thoughts on Joni and movies and pictures look at it, my friend. >> > > True, but I would say that it's an injustice to Joni's best work to say that > any of her records revolves around a single concept. I didn't say that. I just pointed out how one could make a case that a single theme might run throughout one of her records. Certainly there are always more than one! Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #225 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?