From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #202 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Sunday, July 1 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 202 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. Information on the 4th "Annual" New England JoniFest: http://www.jmdl.com/jfne2001.cfm ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Pinky and Perky ["Kakki" ] Today in Joni History: June 30 [les@jmdl.com] Today's Articles: June 30 [les@jmdl.com] Re: Woodstock [Dflahm@aol.com] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #201 [StDoherty@aol.com] Re: Woodstock [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Lilith [Jerry Notaro ] Jackson Browne/Joni question ["kerry" ] Re: Woodstock [dsk ] Re: Woodstock [dsk ] Both Sides Now [Leslie Mixon ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 23:13:38 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Pinky and Perky > >I wonder if they are a musical order. Do you think they play the > >pink oboe? lol I'd pay to see that one > > > >Sister Indulga of de Nile Oh Gordon! lol (uh, oh here comes the lightning bolt!) Gary told me of another web link where there is a photo of them at http://www.svd.org/AdorSister.html Their habits are rather pretty and perky ;-) Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 03:46:35 -0400 From: les@jmdl.com Subject: Today in Joni History: June 30 On June 30 in Joni Mitchell History: 2000: Joni makes an appearance at the opening of her art show at The Mendel Gallery in Saskatoon. More info: http://www.jmdl.com/performances/docs/000630.cfm - ------------------------ Search the "Today" database: http://www.jmdl.com/today ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 03:46:35 -0400 From: les@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Articles: June 30 On June 30 these articles were published: 1979: "Scared to Dance" - Sounds (Review - Album, with photographs) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/790630s.cfm 1999: "Tribute Concert Honours Mitchell" - Toronto Globe and Mail (Concert Preview) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/990630tgam.cfm 2000: "Joni Mitchell returns home to open art show" - Reuters/Variety (News Item) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/000630rv.cfm 2000: "Mitchell-mania takes hold" - Saskatoon StarPhoenix (News Item) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/000630ssp.cfm - ------------------------ The JMDL Article Database has 606 titles. http://www.jmdl.com/articles ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 08:24:21 EDT From: Dflahm@aol.com Subject: Re: Woodstock Well, it is the closing piece on the S & L CD I have and that might argue for its signature status. Once I heard this version, I felt THIS is the real "Woodstock" and the earlier take (from LOTC) began to sound like: here's the song on paper, but not fully realized as a performance. The jazz character was long a-birthing, but once perceivable, it is, to me, overwhelmingly convincing. DAVID LAHM ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 09:05:46 EDT From: StDoherty@aol.com Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #201 I always thought the refererence to the lord on death row was the "God is Dead" feel of the time. While the millions of his lost and lonely ones ... that's the rest of us. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 09:21:36 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Woodstock << How about on the WTRF tour? I'm wondering if she sees Woodstock as her signature song, maybe one she prefers to BYT. >> She used Woodstock to close her 83' WTRF shows as well. A very similar version to the S&L version, but she plays it with a little heavier rhythm. There's a spell-binding recording of it on the Canadaigua NY show, she plays the ending riff, the audience starts getting into it and clapping, she starts to feed off of them, it's one of those interactive moments where performer & audience connects that makes the hairs stand up. I think Joni plays BYT as a crowd-pleaser, but I don't think that it has the significance of Woodstock for her. I think Woodstock represents her hope for humanity, she's saying that we come from dust and have such potential for beauty, but stray from that potential most of the time. Bob NP: Ani, 'beautiful night' ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 12:04:45 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Lilith Just got through watching the Lilith Fair DVD. Lots of Joni content, including influences, Klein, and the rousing BYT finale. Highly recommended. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 12:53:49 -0500 From: "kerry" Subject: Jackson Browne/Joni question I'm going to a Tom Petty concert Wednesday and found out that Jackson Browne is opening for him. Does anyone recall the time period of the dreaded Joni/Jackson controversy thread, so I can look it up in the archives? I didn't pay attention to it at the time, but would like to read some of it now. Thanks, Kerry NP - Willy Porter - Angry Words ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 19:19:46 -0400 From: dsk Subject: Re: Woodstock SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: > She used Woodstock to close her 83' WTRF shows as well. A very similar > version to the S&L version, but she plays it with a little heavier rhythm. > There's a spell-binding recording of it on the Canadaigua NY show, she plays > the ending riff, the audience starts getting into it and clapping, she starts > to feed off of them, it's one of those interactive moments where performer & > audience connects that makes the hairs stand up. Sounds great! That was one of the tours I didn't know about until reading the reviews, so I missed it completely. I'd love to hear this recording. > I think Joni plays BYT as a crowd-pleaser, but I don't think that it has the > significance of Woodstock for her. It didn't hit me until last night while listening to the Shadows & Light concert that she performs Woodstock so often. That surprised me a lot considering how much she wants to shake off her folkie image. It's a great song, but since it's about the actual event, it's very 60s and tie-dyed no matter how Edenic the lyrics become. Even the "get back to the garden" is a 60's attitude. > I think Woodstock represents her hope for > humanity, she's saying that we come from dust and have such potential for > beauty, but stray from that potential most of the time. There are certainly mythic dimensions to that song. It's one of her few songs, maybe the only one, that talks about everyone, as in "we" have to... come together, right noowow, whoops, wrong song... do something together. The search for the garden is not an "I" undertaking. Still, I wouldn't have thought Joni would pick Woodstock as her signature song. I would expect maybe Hejira, or Refuge of the Roads, or DJRD, or... to get away from a song about herself, Judgment of the Moon and Stars, which I hear as a call to all of us to do our best. Debra Shea NP: Lucinda Williams's new one, Essence. I like it on first listen. She's singing in her usual drawly sexy way, but the songs are more introspective, quieter, than on Car Wheels. She's not very happy on this one. Would love to hear these songs live... lots of places where the music could really take off. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 19:32:24 -0400 From: dsk Subject: Re: Woodstock Dflahm@aol.com wrote: > Once I heard this version, I felt THIS is the real "Woodstock" and the > earlier take (from LOTC) began to sound like: here's the song on paper, but > not fully realized as a performance. I liked the S&L version much better too, especially the timing of it and the guitar twang. It hit me so much I've done all sorts of meandering musing about it since hearing it again for the "first" time. > The jazz character was long a-birthing, but once perceivable, it is, to me, > overwhelmingly convincing. What do you mean here, as in what is the jazz character of it? To me it still sounded very folkie, although maybe it's just that I can't get completely away from hearing the LOTC version too, or away from the story of the song. Debra Shea ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 19:37:36 -0700 From: Leslie Mixon Subject: Both Sides Now Listening to the latest collection of covers - great work Mr. Mueller! Wondering what it is about "Both Sides Now" that attracts so many artists from differing genres to record it. Is it that the song touches a vulnerable place in us all? Leslie ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #202 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?