From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #180 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Tuesday, June 12 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 180 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. Information on the 4th "Annual" New England JoniFest: http://www.jmdl.com/jfne2001.cfm ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Today's Joni Articles: June 11 [les@jmdl.com] Joni's sighting + calling on all singers in Paris ["Laurent Olszer" ] Shadows and Light [Jodcrazee@aol.com] Re: Joni's sighting + calling on all singers in Paris ["Suze Cameron" ] Re: Joni's sighting + (md) [MDESTE1@aol.com] Joni tape [Steve Dulson ] Re: JMDL Digest V2001 #251 [TanyerSCO@aol.com] BOTH SIDES NOW on TV w/Orchestra [Bounced Message ] Re: BOTH SIDES NOW on TV w/Orchestra [CHRIS TREACY ] Re: BOTH SIDES NOW on TV w/Orchestra [SMEBD@aol.com] Re: BOTH SIDES NOW on TV w/Orchestra [Don Rowe ] Re: help finding a date and venue [DNick926@aol.com] Re: BOTH SIDES NOW on TV w/Orchestra [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Shadows and Light - Where do I get it on DVD? [Merk54@aol.com] Have You Seen This One Before ["Vadim Litvin" ] Re: help finding a date and venue [Mark Domyancich ] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #179 [Mauski4648@aol.com] Re: Have You Seen This One Before [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Today's Joni Articles: June 11 [les@jmdl.com] Re: multiple posts [Les Irvin ] Re: Have You Seen This One Before [RoseMJoy@aol.com] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #179 [RoseMJoy@aol.com] Re: Joni's sighting + (md) ["Suze Cameron" ] Re: Have You Seen This One Before [Catherine McKay Subject: Joni's sighting + calling on all singers in Paris 1) CALLING ON JONI SINGERS: Hello, In all of France on June 21 anybody who can hold an instrument will be out in the street playing for France's 20th Fjte de la Musique. Thanks to Howard Wright and his wonderful transcription, I can close our rock/blues concert with a perfect rendition of WOODSTOCK (Shadows & Light version) with just guitar and a light sax solo. Anybody who's in Paris on that day is warmly invited to 28 rue Sedaine, 75011 in the evening, to sing along to WOODSTOCK. 2) JONI'S SIGHTING For years when I was living in L.A. I used to look around for Joni wherever I went. I even came up to a lady in a museum line thinking it was her. Then I dated this French woman who was a perfect lookalike, until she found out... It's great to fulfill a fantasy but that's another story. Back to our story: It was an ordinary weekday evening around 1987. Just before 10 pm the phone rang. It was my friend Efrem, the luckiest SOB I know but a great guy, whom I had just recently turned on to Joni's music, saying: "I'm in this restaurant on Montana ave in Santa Monica. There's this woman there, I think it's Joni, she smiled at me" I didn't exactly live close but I took a freeway to a train, and a train to a taxi..... Anyway she was there. Funny but as soon as I walked in she became aware of a fan's presence disturbing her peaceful meal. She greeted me, shook my hand and introduced me to her companion. I asked if I could speak with her after her dinner was over and said I would wait outside. In the meantime she disappeared the back door. What a lesson in humility after L.A.'s lesson in survival. Not a happy ending but how often does that happen anyway? Now the moral of the story is: I turned Efrem on to Joni and that was the reward. So spread the word. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 07:40:51 EDT From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni's sighting + calling on all singers in Paris In a message dated 6/11/01 7:16:53 AM Eastern Daylight Time, olszer@xlsecurity.com writes: > Anybody who's in Paris on that day is warmly > invited to 28 rue Sedaine, 75011 in the evening, to sing along to WOODSTOCK. > Thanks for the invite Laurent, I'll have to check my calendar. I might have a hair appointment on June 21 :~)................just kidding, there's no place in the world I'd rather be in than Paris, especially singing Woodstock. And yes, we can all thank Howard for his wonderful transcriptions of Joni's work. If I could only play an instrument :( Good luck with the concert! Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 08:07:31 EDT From: MDESTE1@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni's sighting + calling on all singers in Paris (md) If only Howard could get to Topsfield. Are you out there Howard? marcel ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:31:51 +0200 From: "Greer, Ron" Subject: cd shops - SJC hi having finally moved to a new city, (no more 1,00 mile commutes - whhooopppeee!!) i decided on saturday night to go out & haave a look around. jumped into my car, popped sophie b hawkins' "timbre" into the cd player & off i went. i drove straight along a road for a while, then saw a shopping mall, so i decided to go have a peek-see. up the escalator, turn right, down the hall, & what should i see - "cd wherehouse" when i walked in the door, & saw a large display of "red dirt girl" marked "guaranteed - we are so confident youll like this well refund your money if you dont" (most sa cd shops have a no exchange/no refund policy) straightaway i knew i was at home. big displays of goerge harrison as well!! defintely no average cd shop!! lovely big shop, nice selection of joni albums (including the 2 cd set of s&l), a wonderful looking emmylou harris boxed set (3 cds & a book - around us$ 25.00), tons of laurie anderson, billy bragg, joan baez, a whole pile of johnny winter, all the stuff ive been looking for for some time now. bliss (& there goes the budget..) does anyone know if cds are psychic?? the way i drove straight to that particular mall, in a large city, with absolutely no knowledge of where i was going kind of blew my mind. ron ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 09:16:35 EDT From: Jodcrazee@aol.com Subject: Shadows and Light OH WOW! I am one happy camper. After people were talking about the Shadows and Light dvd I began to wonder where mine was. I checked the status of my order and it still said on backoreder. I wondered how this could be when people already got theirs. So I was really excited when it arrived. S and L was my introduction to Joni. I had heard of her and there was a concert listed on a Canadian station. I taped it and watched it and my life has not been the same since. It was edited down to 60 min so a few got cut out. There has been a debate on the hair and use of vidoe footage. I like her hair better straight but it was interesting to watch it wilt as the concert went on. I like the video footage, especially 'Amelia.' I believe this is where my Amelia Earhart obcession started when I started my collection of books on Amelia. I am going to go watch some again. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 09:30:48 -0400 From: "Suze Cameron" Subject: Re: Joni's sighting + calling on all singers in Paris Great story! I wonder if those of us who met up with her during her recent concerts could relay their stories again. Seems that Joni is much more affable with the public during a touring event, either with her paintings or her music. But then, almost as if to prove me wrong, we get the pursed lips on postcard story. Thoughts? Sue Cameron Get 250 color business cards for FREE! http://businesscards.lycos.com/vp/fastpath/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 09:35:10 -0500 From: Mark Domyancich Subject: Re: h.elp finding a date and venue Hi Deborah, My guess would be the Bread and Roses performance from September 4, 1978, at the Greek Theater in Los Angeles. I'm not certain but I think it's a soundboard recording. She says something like "I've been working on a new project for me... putting words to Charlie Mingus' music..." I'm paraphrasing but it's something like that. I've never heard of Joni performing in Boulder though! NP(now playing) IMH (in my head): Phish, AC/DC Bag > From: DNick926@aol.com > Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 21:44:36 EDT > > Hi > > I'm very new here, but have read the do's and don't's and am pretty sure this > won't be out of line. I have a question about a disc someone sent me > recently in trade. He doesn't have any more info than I can provide here. > > Labeled "Joni M" and "Greek Theatre" and, possibly, Boulder (I can't read the > handwritting) it sounds like an outdoor show from the late 70's. She talks > about doing "something new for me, writing words for Mingus' music" after the > first song. I'm hoping to date the show and get confirmation on the venue > itself. Also, if it exists, I'd love to check out a database with setlists. > The website that led me here is great and gave me hope that there are people > here that have the info and would be willing to share. > > Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. > > deborah > Who, by a pleasant coincidence, I got to listen to a live, acoustic cover > rendition of The Circle Game this afternoon - at my son's high school > graduation - and the young woman who sang it and the friend accompanying her > on guitar did a great job. (It's track 5 on the disc I'm trying to I.D., btw) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:46:05 EDT From: MDESTE1@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni's sighting + (md) \Because i was lucky enough to be the right age to have gone to hundreds of concerts at the Fillmore and winterland etc in the "old days" i had the fortune to be able to meet and speak informally with many of the legends. This isnt as big a deal as people might think given the modern age of celebrity artists with their limos, entoureages, and body guards. The biggest stars in the business never had body guards and or entourages. They were really no different than any of us and they honestly felt that way. To be able to converse with them was as easy as going right up to them behind the stage at Winterland where they often sat listening to the other acts. Everything changed after Woodstock. Two bands in particular (The Stones and Led Zepplin) led the rest of the industry down the path it has been on for some time with overbearing "security" and asshole bodyguards beating up innocenmt bystanders who happen to be by the door that the "STAR" is about to enter. On the other hand p! eople like Joni Mitchell live in a fishbowl and the exposure that the stars get in the media and all its forms makes them recognizeable beyond any degree they used to be. I certainly cant imagine what it must be like to live in a world where your every move is idolized and or criticized publicly so I dont hold their aversion to chatting with normal people against them per se. One false move, one wrong comment and the entire world can be down on you. I also think that someone like Joni is far more likely to do something like she did in the clothing store than she would be to stop in the middle of her dinner and have a discussion with a fan or go out of her way to stop outside a restaraunt and have a chat. They must pick their shots carefully. It thrilled me that she did the few things she has like the art exhibits in LA and Canada in which she had alot of face time with all kinds of people. How many other artists have done things like that. marcel deste ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 08:30:09 -0700 From: Steve Dulson Subject: Joni tape deborah wrote: Labeled "Joni M" and "Greek Theatre" and, possibly, Boulder (I can't read the handwritting) it sounds like an outdoor show from the late 70's. Joni played the Greek Theater in LA and in Berkeley in the '70s. I saw her in Berkeley on 09-02-1978 and LA 09-13-1979 and 09-16-1979. Don't have setlists, though. :( - -- ######################################################## Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA steve@psitech.com "The Tinker's Own" http://www.tinkersown.com "Southern California Dulcimer Heritage" http://www.scdh.org "The Living Tradition Concert Series" http://www.thelivingtradition.org/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 11:30:24 EDT From: TanyerSCO@aol.com Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2001 #251 In a message dated 6/11/01 3:15:54 AM Eastern Daylight Time, les@jmdl.com writes: << If Blue is my favorite (I've got C&S, Turbulent Indigo, and now Hejira), what would you recommend next? Contrary to what I see here, I'm not in love with Court and Spark - sounds too commercial/pop for my taste. >> Hi Jen! Blue was my first favorite Joni album and it all snowballed from there. But before I was ready for all the stuff after Blue, I got really into the more folky stuff - Ladies of the Canyon, Clouds, and Song to a Seagull. If you like that folky, intimate guitar stuff, try those. After that I would say For the Roses - which is still probably my favorite - no, Hejira, no Hissing ..., I can't decide. : ) tanya in nyc ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 09:18:46 -0600 From: Bounced Message Subject: BOTH SIDES NOW on TV w/Orchestra From: VoxPopular@aol.com Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 04:51:55 EDT Hello, Do you know if the BOTH SIDES NOW concert with orchestra shown on television a few months ago is available anywhere on VHS, or ideally, on DVD? I do have the DVD/Audio version and it is amazing, however, I would love to have the added benefit of actually seeing Joni's performance. Also, any idea of whether the concert is scheduled for rebroadcast? As I've been searching for awhile I am extremely happy to have discovered another resource. Hope you can help. Thanks, - -KC ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 11:27:53 -0600 From: CHRIS TREACY (by way of Les Irvin ) Subject: Re: BOTH SIDES NOW on TV w/Orchestra This is all news to me; guess I missed something. Can anyone tell me more about this show? Thanks! Chris NP: "The Map" - Dee Carstenson - --- Bounced Message wrote: > From: VoxPopular@aol.com > Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 04:51:55 EDT > > Hello, > Do you know if the BOTH SIDES NOW concert with > orchestra shown on television > a few months ago is available anywhere on VHS, or > ideally, on DVD? I do have > the DVD/Audio version and it is amazing, however, I > would love to have the > added benefit of actually seeing Joni's performance. > Also, any idea of > whether the concert is scheduled for rebroadcast? > As I've been searching for > awhile I am extremely happy to have discovered > another resource. Hope you > can help. > > Thanks, > -KC ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:58:46 EDT From: SMEBD@aol.com Subject: Re: BOTH SIDES NOW on TV w/Orchestra In a message dated 6/11/01 1:47:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time, les@jmdl.com writes: > Do you know if the BOTH SIDES NOW concert with orchestra shown on television > The BSN concert was shown on TV? When? Which performance? How did I miss this? Stephen (NP--JM: Goodbye Pork Pie Hat) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 11:22:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Rowe Subject: Re: BOTH SIDES NOW on TV w/Orchestra - --- SMEBD@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 6/11/01 1:47:59 PM Eastern > Daylight Time, les@jmdl.com > writes: > > > > Do you know if the BOTH SIDES NOW concert with > orchestra shown on television > > > > The BSN concert was shown on TV? When? Which > performance? How did I miss > this? > > Stephen (NP--JM: Goodbye Pork Pie Hat) Unless this refers to the TNT All-Star Tribute to Joni Mitchell ... it would be the first I've heard of a concert from that tour being televised, PPV or otherwise. Don Rowe ===== Visit me anytime at http://www.mp3.com/donrowe Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:27:56 EDT From: DNick926@aol.com Subject: Re: help finding a date and venue Hi Mark << She says something like "I've been working on a new project for me... putting words to Charlie Mingus' music..." I'm paraphrasing but it's something like that. >> Your paraphrasing is dead-on. That's exactly what she says - I just played it to make sure. Thank you very much!! I was nervous about asking here because if an unauthorized show on disc or analog is even mentioned on the only other discussion list I'm on the sender would be roundly flamed. But, after I read the groundrules for the list carefully and detected neither a subtle nor upfront prohibition on discussing boots, it seemed worth a try. I appreciate your response and the others I've received off list. Thanks again deborah (NP Richard Thompson w/band The Ark Ann Arbor MI 3/29/85) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:39:55 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: BOTH SIDES NOW on TV w/Orchestra <> I think it's news to all of us, Chris...hard to believe that something like this exists and NOBODY here knows about it!?! (Which leads to think that the original writer didn't see what they thought they saw...) Bob NP: Prince, "Interactive" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:44:16 EDT From: Merk54@aol.com Subject: Shadows and Light - Where do I get it on DVD? Unfortunately, I wasn't paying close attention when people mentioned where they picked up S&L on DVD, and a brief search on the internet didn't turn up a source. Could someone tell me where they ordered theirs? Even if it's on back order, I would like to atleast get an order in for one. Thanks, Jack ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 22:01:49 +0300 From: "Vadim Litvin" Subject: Have You Seen This One Before Please, follow this link: http://exleyphoto.com/photo-music-jonimitchell.htm Great photo!! Best Wishes, Vad ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:28:26 -0500 From: Mark Domyancich Subject: Re: help finding a date and venue Hi Deborah! Glad to hear you're able to put a date with that recording. One of my favorites, and I'm just as shocked that I remembered exactly what she said! I must listen to my live stuff too obsessively. And tape trading is always welcome on this list, although we rarely discuss it or have trees. I personally don't know Joni's feelings on the subject, but in one of the Morning Becomes Eclectic interviews she notes people in the audience recording with tape recorders... Which brings up something. There are some bands out there who do allow taping, a great majority, yet there are several who don't allow it in part because they don't want their off-nights to be recorded (how they can say this when it's being recorded even before they start playing is beyond me). I wonder if Joni is one of these people. I do have a few recordings where Joni does sound "off" or the audience is less than attentive. > From: DNick926@aol.com > Reply-To: DNick926@aol.com > Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:27:56 EDT > To: mark@mail.jmdl.com, joni@smoe.org > Subject: Re: help finding a date and venue > > Hi Mark > > << She says something like "I've been working on a new > project for me... putting words to Charlie Mingus' music..." I'm > paraphrasing but it's something like that. >> > > Your paraphrasing is dead-on. That's exactly what she says - I just played > it to make sure. Thank you very much!! > > I was nervous about asking here because if an unauthorized show on disc or > analog is even mentioned on the only other discussion list I'm on the sender > would be roundly flamed. But, after I read the groundrules for the list > carefully and detected neither a subtle nor upfront prohibition on discussing > boots, it seemed worth a try. > > I appreciate your response and the others I've received off list. > > Thanks again > deborah > (NP Richard Thompson w/band The Ark Ann Arbor MI 3/29/85) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 15:34:04 EDT From: Mauski4648@aol.com Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #179 HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLPPPPPPPPP! I need the email address for email booking tickets for the Joni concert in Toronto 19th, have to get the confirmation for the tickets by tomorrow morning - German time that is... Karin from Germany ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 16:13:56 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Have You Seen This One Before That is a VERY nice photo, Vad! Makes me wonder just what's on all those tapes and discs in the background. Joni's standing guard over the Mingus Demo's? :~D Bob NP: Prince, "Hide The Bone" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:50:47 -0600 From: les@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Joni Articles: June 11 On June 11 these articles about Joni were published: 1970: "Ladies of the Canyon" - Rolling Stone (Review - Album) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/700611rs.cfm 2000: "Critics to swarm Saskatoon for Mitchell art exhibition" - Saskatoon StarPhoenix (News Item) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/000611ssp.cfm - ------------------------ The JMDL Article Database has 593 titles. http://www.jmdl.com/articles Contributions always welcome! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 15:24:24 -0600 From: Les Irvin Subject: Re: multiple posts At 02:50 PM 6/11/2001, I wrote again and again: >On June 11 these articles about Joni were published: Sorry for the multiple issues of the Articles and Today posts. I'm working on an system that automatically issues these posts and, as you can see, there are still a few bugs to work out. Thanks for your patience! Les NP: Whiskeytown "Easy Heart Life" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 17:34:59 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: Have You Seen This One Before In a message dated 6/11/01 3:57:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time, vadiml@honour.usb.dp.ua writes: > Great photo!! > > No, I never saw this one, Thank You Vad! I love the suit ;~) Rose in NJ rosemjoy@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 17:50:34 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #179 In a message dated 6/11/01 4:38:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Mauski4648@aol.com writes: > HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLPPPPPPPPP! I need the email address for email > booking tickets for the Joni concert in Toronto 19th, have to get the > confirmation for the tickets by tomorrow morning - German time that is... > Karin from Germany > Hi Karin, There seems to be a problem with the link at the Harbourfront Centre. Go to www.tickets.com, then type in Joni Mitchell in the search box. Rose in NJ rosemjoy@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 19:29:39 -0400 From: "Suze Cameron" Subject: Re: Joni's sighting + (md) Marcel wrote: I certainly cant imagine what it must be like to live in a world where your every move is idolized and or criticized publicly so I dont hold their aversion to chatting with normal people against them per se. Yes, I understand what you mean Marcel. That is why I find her interactions with us as a group to be so interesting. When we met her in Detroit Terry identified us as "Wally's group". She couldn't have been any more gracious. That is what I was curious about. For those of us fortunate enough to have met her, did you mention the JMDL? If so, what was Joni's reaction? IMHO, the worst part about being famous would be the fact that you couldn't sneak out and buy a quart of Hagen Daas without your makeup for fear of the National Enquirer snapping a very unflattering photo of you. N.P. more rain on the rooftop and no, I don't live in Houston Sue Cameron, hoping that all of the Houstonites fared well. Get 250 color business cards for FREE! http://businesscards.lycos.com/vp/fastpath/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 22:11:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Have You Seen This One Before - --- Vadim Litvin wrote: > Please, follow this link: > http://exleyphoto.com/photo-music-jonimitchell.htm > > Great photo!! > You are SO right - this is a wonderful pictue! Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 22:10:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Shadows and Light - Where do I get it on DVD? - --- Merk54@aol.com wrote: > Unfortunately, I wasn't paying close attention when > people mentioned where they picked up S&L on DVD, > and a brief search on the internet didn't turn up a > source. > > Could someone tell me where they ordered theirs? > Even if it's on back order, I would like to atleast > get an order in for one. > I got mine through CDNow. Or CDNow.com if you will. Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #180 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?