From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #155 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Saturday, May 19 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 155 The 'Official' Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. Information on the 4th "Annual" New England JoniFest: http://www.jmdl.com/jfne2001.cfm The Joni Chat Room: http://www.jmdl.com/chat.cfm ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Crosby Stills Nash and sometimes Young (3-book set) ["Paul Castle" ] Re: Crosby Stills Nash and sometimes Young (3-book set) ["Kakki" ] Re: Does anyone else feel this way?(SJC) [Catherine McKay ] a map of canada ["J.David Sapp" ] Re: a map of canada [Catherine McKay ] Re: Does anyone else feel this way?(SJC) [catman ] re:The rich Americans [Catherine McKay ] What Joni said about Dylan [Randy Remote ] Re: a map of canada ["hell" ] Shadows and Light DVD from Hong Kong ["dave foers" ] APOLOGIES: FORGOT! [Vince Lavieri ] Jaco Pastorius/ Pat Matheny Recommended Listening? ["dave foers" Subject: Crosby Stills Nash and sometimes Young (3-book set) Francesco Lucarelli lucarelli.f@tin.it wrote about "a CSNY encyclopedia" >The authors conducted a number of exclusive and candid >interviews with musicians and associates of CSN, including: (hundreds of them.....) - - but NJC????? Was she asked? Did she decline? Hope she at least gets a 'thank you' in the credits for the use of her house for rehearsals! PaulC ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 10:27:19 +0200 From: "Francesco Lucarelli" Subject: Re: Crosby Stills Nash and sometimes Young (3-book set) Unfortunately she hasn't been willing to talk to us, although Nash put us in touch with her people :-( Francesco - --CSNY---CSNY---CSNY---CSNY---CSNY---CSNY---CSNY--- The Crosby Stills Nash and sometimes Young encyclopedia: a 3 book-boxset, soon to be released! More news at http://www.booksoncsn.com Published by Gopher: http://www.gopherpublishers.com/ ********************************************************************** - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Castle" To: "jmdl" Cc: Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 10:25 AM Subject: Crosby Stills Nash and sometimes Young (3-book set) > Francesco Lucarelli lucarelli.f@tin.it wrote about > "a CSNY encyclopedia" > > >The authors conducted a number of exclusive and candid > >interviews with musicians and associates of CSN, including: > (hundreds of them.....) > > - but > > NJC????? > > Was she asked? Did she decline? > > Hope she at least gets a 'thank you' in the credits > for the use of her house for rehearsals! > > PaulC ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 00:55:36 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Map of Canada revealed Rosa, you are right! I tried looking at it again and yes there is a face, but a very GOOFY one! Kind of like a Groucho Marx cartoon face with big eyes and a huge nose and a few strands of hair sticking straight up! Whoever it is Joni was not portraying him in his, um, best light. LOL Kakki P.S. Thanks to Jimmy for correctly ID'ing the wine - ha! > I don't have the litho, but what I have is the cardboard >promo poster that I tore of the wall at Borders LOL I >definately see a face. Wasn't Cohen from Montreal? But >then again, it almost looks like that funny self portrait > painting that Dylan had done ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 00:58:41 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Crosby Stills Nash and sometimes Young (3-book set) Francesco, I'm sorry to hear this. Seems she contributed to Crosby's bio "Long Time Gone" back in the 80s. Thanks for giving up the updates on your venture - it sounds absolutely incredible. Congrats to Leslie Mixon for her contributions to the project. Kakki > Unfortunately she hasn't been willing to talk to us, > although Nash put us in touch with her people > > :-( > > Francesco ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 04:42:58 EDT From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: Map of Canada revealed In a message dated 5/18/01 4:38:56 AM Eastern Daylight Time, KakkiB@worldnet.att.net writes: << Rosa, you are right! I tried looking at it again and yes there is a face, but a very GOOFY one! Kind of like a Groucho Marx cartoon face with big eyes and a huge nose and a few strands of hair sticking straight up! Whoever it is Joni was not portraying him in his, um, best light. LOL Kakki >> There is a line from a Leonard Cohen song that goes something like: "You said you prefer handsome men, but for me you'd make an exception." Paul I ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 10:56:25 +0100 From: Gordon Mackie Subject: Surconsciousness Relayer211@aol.com wrote I know it's irrational, but I get very upset, almost angry, when people don't like the same things I like, such as Join's music for instance...I feel like they are missing out on something very important. (The title of may mail has nothing to do with Big Sur... just a piss poor pun.) Anyhoo, don't you just love it when you discover someone who has the same sense of humour as yourself. The music thing is important but I think you can tell a lot about someone by their sense of humour. I've noticed this on the list too. Anyone prepared to stick thieir necks out on this one?? Woody Allen's humour still makes me laugh. French and Saunders crack me up. Joni seems to have a wicked sense of humour which I also admire eg Raised on Snobbery.. sorry..Robbery Ciao Gordon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 08:59:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Does anyone else feel this way?(SJC) - --- Relayer211@aol.com wrote: > I know it's irrational, but I get very upset, > almost angry, when > people don't like the same things I like, such as > Join's music for > instance...I feel like they are missing out on > something very important. They are missing something very important, but I've become resigned to it. Which makes it so much the better when you DO find someone who likes Joni's music - - it's like a bolt out of the blue. Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 14:11:56 From: "c Karma" Subject: Joni's house in Bel Air But why would you want to? Take away the wonderful collections of baskets and the musical instruments and it looked then like what I expect the Playboy mansion to resemble ("Who put their KOOLs out on my rug?!?"); the fountain, dining room ceiling and library loft not withstanding. It's interesting that the article states that Joni's paintings were hung all around the house but none made it into the photos. They even positioned a HUGE vase in front of a mirror to obscure one! Go figure. CC "A camera pans the cocktail hour behind a blind of potted palms."-- JM _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 09:31:59 -0500 From: "J.David Sapp" Subject: a map of canada Jimmy wrote: Unfortunately i can't remember the source but i read an interview with Joni and she says she was drinking cranberry juice. peace, david ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 12:36:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: a map of canada - --- "J.David Sapp" wrote: > Jimmy wrote: > the print very carefully. > Because of the line "You taste so bitter and so > sweet", I think Joni is > drinking a glass of Torciano Vallicello which is a > red sweet wine. There > happens to be some excess tannin from this batch > which explains the > bitterness. Since the color of the wine is so light > I could also guess she's > drinking a Beaujolais. Being a fairly inexpensive > wine, she may have drank > quite a few glasses to match all the cigarette butts > in the ashtray. > > > Unfortunately i can't remember the source but i read > an interview with Joni > and she says she was drinking cranberry juice. > You're right, David - now that you mention it, I remember reading the cranberry juice bit as well. I'm so impressed that some of you people can identify different types of wines. About all I know is I like a dry white, and most reds give me a headache. Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 17:57:25 +0100 From: catman Subject: Re: Does anyone else feel this way?(SJC) Catherine McKay wrote: > --- Relayer211@aol.com wrote: > > I know it's irrational, but I get very upset, > > almost angry, when > > people don't like the same things I like, such as > > Join's music for > > instance...I feel like they are missing out on > > something very important. > Good job I don't! My partner of 20 years doesn't like Joni and doesn't like most of my music. I can't stand his either(opera and stuff like Elton John, James Taylor, Bob Dylan). We have different tastes in almost everything. In fact we have very little in common. But it's worked very well for 290 years. I used to try and persuade people to like my music favourites. I tused to take it a opersonal slight if they didn't-like they were saying there was soemthing wrong with me for liking it. Then i grew in self esteem and no longer give a toss what others like or don't! bw volin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 13:12:47 EDT From: MP123A321@aol.com Subject: re:The rich Americans Catherine wrote: "There are a lot of very rich Americans who own cottages (ha - cottages? these are frickin' mansions more like ........There are entire lakes in Ontario and Quebec surrounded by luxury homes with yachts where the average slob, such as moi, probably wouldn't even be allowed to go. And if we can keep all the retired Canadians from gobbling up all these oooo-gly mobile homes down here in Florida maybe the homeless could upgrade their living situations to trailer park dwelling. Or maybe clear some of the trailer parks and and leave "nothing but flowers....." Maurice ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 10:46:42 -0700 From: Sue Glumac Subject: Wine glass Could the subliminal message be "is the glass half empty or half full"? Sue ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 14:37:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: re:The rich Americans - --- MP123A321@aol.com wrote: > > And if we can keep all the retired Canadians from > gobbling up all these oooo-gly mobile homes down > here in Florida maybe the homeless could upgrade > their living situations to trailer park dwelling. Or > maybe clear some of the trailer parks and and leave > "nothing but flowers....." I don't get it either. I wouldn't want to go to Florida - too many Canadians! Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 13:47:03 -0700 From: Randy Remote Subject: What Joni said about Dylan What Joni said about Dylan in the new Rolling Stone: "No one has come close to being as good a writer as Dylan. He had these grand themes, these cast-of-thousands kind of songs, people running around with cats on their shoulders, street scenes. He did a lot with urban landscapes, like "Desolation Row," where there's so much going on. What do I make of Bob turning sixty? Because of the youth-cultish nature of our industry-of every industry, basically-I think it is a very positive thing that someone of another generation survives. The obvious wish I have for Bob is his own line: "May you stay forever young." For the creature that creates, it's all child's play." ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 10:55:44 +1200 From: "hell" Subject: Re: a map of canada David wrote: > Unfortunately i can't remember the source but i read an interview with Joni > and she says she was drinking cranberry juice. I remember that too, so I searched the archives. From an interview on KCSN Radio, December 21, 1999 (talking about the cover of BSN): Interviewer: No, I actually have a very different feeling about it. I'm curious as to what's in the glass, and it makes me want just to have an aperitif. Joni: Actually it's cranberry juice. It seems to be her drink of choice, there were about 5 articles describing her having lunch in Brentwood, and drinking cranberry juice. Hell ____________________________ "To have great poets, there must be great audiences too." - Walt Whitman hell@ihug.co.nz Hell's Personal Photo Page: http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hell/main/personal.htm Visit the NBLs (Natural Born Losers) at: http://www.nbls.co.nz ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 23:53:51 +0100 From: "dave foers" Subject: Shadows and Light DVD from Hong Kong For what its worth, The Hong Kong Version is Multi Regional, Regions 1 to 5, as long as you have a NTSC compatible tv and player. Its brilliant! I play it over and over. Best wishes Dave, Stoke-on-Trent ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 19:32:08 -0400 From: Vince Lavieri Subject: Word games Colin, take the word Canuck. Spell it. Divide it in half. Spell the last half. Then go through the English language. A+ uck, b+uck, c+uck, d+uck, e+uck, etc, until you find a letter than goes with "uck" that makes a word that rhymes with "Canuck" that a person of my sober and austere personality would never say. (This is getting deep...) Chuck it all, and buck up, as Huck Finn would say, this whole topic may suck, and with luck, like a duck we'll get out of the muck and truck onwards, and find a word that rhymes with Canuck. Now what puzzles me: what is the "c" word? Well, I guess I really don't want to know. I'm not signing my name to this vulgar post. jan gyn wrote: > At 11:55 PM 5/18/01 +0100, catman wrote: > >> But I think that was the first time I ever saw in actual print the word > >> that rhymes with "Canuck." > > > >okay what is it? I can't thi k of anything that rhymes with canuck. > >Mind you maybe the way i say isn't the way you do'can- ook'. But I can't > >think of a way to pronounce it that rhymes with the f or c word. > > Jean-Luc? Forsook? Fluke? > -jan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 19:33:41 -0400 From: Vince Lavieri Subject: APOLOGIES: FORGOT! Don't read the prior post which I forgot to tag the subject as NJC - as I haven't tagged this one so that I can apologise profusely to the right people. Sorry! Very sorry! (the Rev) Vince ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 01:06:22 +0100 From: "dave foers" Subject: Jaco Pastorius/ Pat Matheny Recommended Listening? Can anyone recommend any recordings worth a listen to, with Jaco Pastorious and/or Pat Matheny, other than with Joni?. I just think the sounds they make on the Joni stuff is 'sooo' special and soulful, I'd like to hear more.... Best wishes Dave, Stoke-on-Trent ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 17:12:42 -0700 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: Shadows and Light DVD from Hong Kong Have you played it in 5.1? So far, no one has verified that the Hong Kong version is really in surround. Just wondering, since so many bootleg CD's come from asia, and a surround sound version of Shadows and Light would require access to the original master tapes, whereas if it is not really licenced, they could have just copied the laserdisc version. RR dave foers wrote: > For what its worth, The Hong Kong Version is Multi Regional, Regions 1 to 5, > as long as you have a NTSC compatible tv and player. Its brilliant! I play > it over and over. > > Best wishes > > Dave, Stoke-on-Trent ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 20:25:12 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Lahm's NY JoniFest Next Weekend!!! Hey guys with all this posting about the Labor Day Fest in Boston, there hasn't been a word about NEXT WEEKEND!!! What's doing with this? Nikki and I don't know where the hell we're staying, if we're staying.... When will folks be arriving? What's planned for Friday night, any ideas yet? I know Sue Cameron will be arriving Friday. We really need to communicate and get organized. Ashara, please help!!! I can bring my guitar for someone else to play, as yawl know I'm a beginner! LOL David, could you please post the times again for Judy's Chelsea for Sat. & Sun.? Thanks, Rose in Noo Joisey rosemjoy@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 22:18:23 EDT From: Dflahm@aol.com Subject: Re: Jaco Pastorius/ Pat Matheny Recommended Listening? Pat is on a very fine Michael Brecker CD called TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE. DAVID LAHM ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 22:20:17 EDT From: Dflahm@aol.com Subject: Re: Lahm's NY JoniFest Next Weekend!!! OK Rose! Thanks for the reminder. Saturday we go 3-7 & 7-11; Sunday 3-7 (plus my piano & bass jazz brunch, noon to 3) DAVID LAHM ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #155 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?