From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #152 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Wednesday, May 16 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 152 The 'Official' Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. Information on the 4th "Annual" New England JoniFest: http://www.jmdl.com/jfne2001.cfm The Joni Chat Room: http://www.jmdl.com/chat.cfm ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: The New Yorker Article ["hell" ] Re: JMDL Digest V2001 #216 -- 80s vs. 70s and a special concert tour [Ca] The blahs a.k.a. turning 30 (SJC) [Janene Otten ] *@+!# & the mental blocks ["William Waddell" ] Joni Shadows & Light video at CD Now [anima_rising@yahoo.ca] Wanna visit Joni's house? [Les Irvin ] turning 30.... [Tyler Hewitt ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 23:19:01 +1200 From: "hell" Subject: Re: The New Yorker Article Catherine wrote: > I think in my case it's not so much "devotion to Joni" > but perhaps failure to appreciate Bob Dylan. What is > it precisely about him that's supposed to be so > innovative? I don't find his music particularly "new" > - his music IMO is pretty predictable. Is it the > lyrics? I agree that Joni does pay him tribute, and > I'm not trying to be sarcastic, or a pain in the ass - > I just don't get it! Somebody please enlighten me! First of all, happy belated birthday! Now since my stupid computer froze on me the last time I tried to write this, I'll try again! I love Bob Dylan. I don't think his music is as good as Joni's (my opinion, obviously) but he is an incredible poet. But I think David Crosby said it best in a video I've got. To paraphrase: "You had rock'n'roll with lots of great chord changes, but limited poetry, and it ran smack into folk music, with limited chord changes but great, great words." Dylan was one of the first to merge the two into a new music, and I guess he was the fore-runner of the singer-songwriters of the 60's and 70's, who felt there was more to say in a pop song than "I love you." Some great lyrics from "It's Alright, Ma (I'm Only Bleeding) - actually the whole song is superb: While one who sings with his tongue on fire Gargles in the rat race choir Bent out of shape from society's pliers Cares not to come up any higher But rather get you down in the hole That he's in. But I mean no harm nor put fault On anyone that lives in a vault But it's alright, Ma, if I can't please him. Check out the album "Bringing It All Back Home", and it might help enlighten you! Take care, Hell ____________________________ "To have great poets, there must be great audiences too." - Walt Whitman hell@ihug.co.nz Hell's Personal Photo Page: http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hell/main/personal.htm Visit the NBLs (Natural Born Losers) at: http://www.nbls.co.nz ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 09:10:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2001 #216 -- 80s vs. 70s and a special concert tour - --- BRYAN8847@aol.com wrote: > Also, many of you may be interested in a special > concert series coming up > during much of the rest of this year: The Judy > Collins Wildflower Festival, > featuring Judy, Roger McGuinn, Janis Ian and Richie > Havens (and perhaps > others). > Not so > familiar with Richie, but I'm sure he'll round out > the show well. Richie Havens is wonderful - you will enjoy him, I'm sure of it. Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 10:37:53 -0400 From: Janene Otten Subject: The blahs a.k.a. turning 30 (SJC) Lori wrote: > "Nowadays, you can't trust anyone UNDER 30!" * > Tra-la-la ... so glad to be back on the left side of the fence, > Lori > in DC> * No offense intended to the under-30s on the JMDL ... I know > you ROCK! Since we're hovering around the topic of being 30, did anyone else experience the major BLAHS when they passed three decades??? I had heard it said that 30 was a milestone but I didn't think I'd really feel like I walked barefoot of miles of STONE! Perhaps it is just the ragweed and pollen... And now for my Joni content: I first want to say thanks to Ashara for all the Joni stuff I've been holding and drooling over these days. The videos are so inspiring and although I wasn't even a twinkle in me mother's eye at the time of some of the recordings, I do feel that kindred connection to the moments on screen. (yes, I did well up with a few tears...) I am sorry that I once again will not be able to attend the Jonifest. I always visit a friend in Virginia and it's really the only weekend I get to hang out there and camp on the beautiful acreage in the James River Valley. Have a great time! (Hey, maybe I can video tape my song and take the afternoon slot that is open!) If anyone knows who Steve Sandberg is (musician) and would like to attend a show of his at the Knitting Factory in NYC with me, let me know. janeneo@mji.com And thanks for the synthesizer history lessons. Love you guys! Janene np: Paul McCartney: Wingspan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 15:28:29 From: "William Waddell" Subject: *@+!# & the mental blocks Catherine wrote about Dylan; <<>> Do this for one week! I suggest you don't play anything from your music collection that's after 1964. If you're listening to the radio/TV, switch it off if anything post 64 comes on. Seriously listen to what was being produced until then. Sure there's good Elvis, Chuck Berry, Buddy Holly, Beatles, Dylan et al. It's a one for the money, .......Roll over Ludwig, ...... Pretty pretty pretty pretty Peggy Sue, ...... Please please play this song I wanna bore you, ....... How many times can a man play this song?, ......Then ask yourself where all this was going. After one week, play yourself any Dylan song from Blonde on Blonde. If you don't have to pick yourself up off the floor, go back and do it again but this time for a month. Vee haff vaze ov making you ........ Ha! I kinda know how you feel Catherine. I put it down to a mental block. I have a mental block about Loose Windscreen (Bored in the USA) and also Billy Joel and many others. I'm a Joni fascist. Some folks just cannot stand Joni. It's one big mystery. The mystery is, I'm not quite sure why I'm writing this. Woke up and felt in a jolly mood. If you wanna know why contact me off line. Clue; Just received the Hissing demos from SCBobGuy. I love Dreamland!!!!!! Bazzzooozzzies an' all. Willy the Shake _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 17:42:36 +0200 From: "John van Tiel" Subject: Joni covers Vols. 16, 17 & 18 go Europe Volumes 16, 17 & 18 of Bob Muller's amazing Covers & Contributions have reached Bob's franchise department in mainland Europe. Anyone from Europe (including UK Eurosceptics) who would like to have copies of these great CDs - -- Bob's well never seems to dry out! - may contact me. I'll be glad to spread the music. John ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 19:00:12 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Helga_L=F6ltgen?= Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Wrong_date_-_it=B4s_not_May_15th=2C_but...?= the 24th of May, so if you want to send Karin - down there in Germany - your birthday greetings, please keep this date in mind, and here we go again: Mauski4648@aol.com. Thanks (especially to our well known Birthday Fairy, who surely will remember this date), Helga - just another one from down there - and it seems that we are the only ones in Germany. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 16:29:45 EDT From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: The blahs a.k.a. turning 30 (SJC) In a message dated 5/15/01 10:53:07 AM Eastern Daylight Time, JaneneO@mji.com writes: << Since we're hovering around the topic of being 30, did anyone else experience the major BLAHS when they passed three decades??? I had heard it said that 30 was a milestone but I didn't think I'd really feel like I walked barefoot of miles of STONE! Perhaps it is just the ragweed and pollen... >> Astrologically speaking, 30 is about the time one completes his or her first Saturn return, which has an orbit of about 29 Earth years. Paul I ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 22:58:00 +0100 From: "Rob Ettridge" Subject: Shawn Colvin rarity with Joni content (for UK jmdlers) A week or so ago, Catherine kindly offered to the list a Shawn Colvin radio performance featuring versions of 'Urge for Going' and 'Conversation' among others. I now have a copy of this disc - and it's a real find - so if anyone in the UK wants a copy on a 'blanks-and-postage' basis, then feel free to contact me off-list (robettridge@hotmail.com). Of course, if you don't have access to blank CDs, contact me anyway, and we can sort something out. Rob NP - Willy Porter - Rita (live) - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 20:08:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: The blahs a.k.a. turning 30 (SJC) - --- IVPAUL42@aol.com wrote: > Astrologically speaking, 30 is about the time one > completes his or her first > Saturn return, which has an orbit of about 29 Earth > years. > So THAT'S why I have those rings around my middle! Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 20:01:25 -0500 From: Mark Domyancich Subject: Another "Almost Famous" Thread Hey guys, This might have been mentioned when "Almost Famous" was all the talk on this list. I was watching the noon news today and they had the regular movie reviewer talking about all the foibles in the movies today, like for instance, in "Erin Brockovich", where Erin and her boss are talking about the lawsuit with the chemical companies' reps, there's a stack of papers in front of one of the lawyers that is close to him but in a different shot it's two or three feet in front of him. Anyways, she mentioned how "Almost Famous" took place in 1969, but "Blue" didn't come out until 1971. I don't know of the "Blue" reference in AF since I never saw it. But hey, I saw "Erin Brockovich"! Going back under my rock to read all of the "intelligent" posts.... Mark Domyancich mark@jmdl.com Check out the Joni Mitchell guitar archive: http://www.jmdl.com/guitar/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 22:13:38 -0400 (EDT) From: anima_rising@yahoo.ca Subject: Joni Shadows & Light video at CD Now - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Catherine Mckay thought you would enjoy this movie and requested that we send this email to you. - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Checking in on the CD-Now site via JoniMitchell.com, I found that Shadows & Light is available in both video and DVD - the DVD version is cheaper (!) @ US$38.47 (30 % off). Note though - it does say "backorder - - no ship date available." Wonder if it's a trial balloon? If so - let's all order a copy today!! - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joni Mitchell: Shadows & Light Release Date: February 23, 1999 DVD CDNOW Price: $38.47 VHS CDNOW Price: $76.49 - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- To buy this movie at CDNOW, go to http://cdnow.com/switch/target=buyweb_purchase/itemid=1381816/from=fex:x:cdn:videovipg - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Prices or discounts for items featured in this e-mail were accurate at the time the email was sent, but may be subject to change. - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1588794824 200105152213 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 00:12:06 -0600 From: Les Irvin Subject: Wanna visit Joni's house? http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/7607ad.cfm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 23:55:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Tyler Hewitt Subject: turning 30.... First i read this: Since we're hovering around the topic of being 30, did anyone else experience the major BLAHS when they passed three decades??? I had heard it said that 30 was a milestone but I didn't think I'd really feel like I walked barefoot of miles of STONE! And was prepared to post about how turning 30 was completely uneventful (21 was much worse).Then I read colin's wonderful post about turning 40: I am 42. Turning 40 was BRILLIANT! I never want to go back. I don't feel 42. i feel 16. I still find astonishing that some people I know my age have grown up children. i still look upon other adults as 'grown ups'. My 40's are fantastic. Whoever it was that said youth is wasted on the young was right. I don't fancy getting wrinkled and infirm but absoilutely no way would I want to be young again. Unless I could knock off twenty physical years but stay as I am now both mentally and spirtiually. Good things about my 40's:. Liking and accepting myself as I am not what others think I ought to be,, not giving a damn whether others like me or not, less horny, doing as I please instead of doing to please, wearing what makes me feel comfortable, speaking my mind instead of what I think you want to hear, having opinions of my own, having no family, having a God of my own understanding not someone else's, just being. That's EXACTLY how I feel about life as a 30 something. The 30's have been so much better than the 20's that there is no comparison. I love that part of his post where he talks about other adults being 'grown ups'. I do that all the time! I feel like a big kid and love it! Youth is so overrated. It makes me laugh. I am so much happier, self-assured, and at peace with myself and the world now than I ever have been. And people I know who are in their 50's tell me that the 40's are better than the 30's. Can't wait! I look back on my 20's (and my teenage years) with fond rememberance, few regrets, and no longing for what was. And absolutely no desire to do it over. Life was great at the time, but it's much better now. Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #152 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?