From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #138 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Wednesday, May 2 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 138 The 'Official' Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. Information on the 4th "Annual" New England JoniFest: http://www.jmdl.com/jfne2001.cfm The Joni Chat Room: http://www.jmdl.com/chat.cfm ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- newbie guitarist [Anne Sandstrom ] Re: Music lessons SJC [Don Rowe ] Re: newbie guitarist [RoseMJoy@aol.com] Re: Music lessons SJC [RoseMJoy@aol.com] Ever wonder why you never hear Joni on the radio? [Don Rowe ] "In this age of stentorian amplification..." ["Steve Harper" ] Re: joni pics [Randy Remote ] Joni Music Video [RoseMJoy@aol.com] Another Joni Sims Object [slarty ] Re: newbie guitarist [Michael Paz ] Re: the album form [Michael Paz ] "The 25th hour"-mystery novel [Relayer211@aol.com] Re: newbie guitarist [RoseMJoy@aol.com] Re: Joni Music Video ["Mark or Travis" ] "The Sound of Trees"(Poem) [Relayer211@aol.com] Re: "The Sound of Trees"(Poem) [Relayer211@aol.com] Re: Joni Music Video ["hell" ] RE: "The 25th hour"-mystery novel ["Wally Kairuz" Subject: newbie guitarist Hi Rose. Wow! That's GREAT!!! I'm so happy for you. Welcome to the wonderful world of wood and strings! Based on my own experience, I'd say to just remember that the first time you play actual Joni notes (my gawd, it sounds just like the recording!!!) you'll experience incredible ecstasy. Better than (you name it - chocolate, sex, etc...) lots of love Anne ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 06:53:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Rowe Subject: Re: Music lessons SJC - --- RoseMJoy@aol.com wrote: > I had my first official guitar lesson today! Lucky you! You'll soon find that, although music is the greatest spectator sport ever invented, it's infinitely more satisfying to be a "play-ah"! ;-) Don Rowe ===== Visit me anytime at http://www.mp3.com/donrowe Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 10:01:22 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: newbie guitarist In a message dated 5/1/01 9:55:56 AM Eastern Daylight Time, asandstrom@macromedia.com writes: > Based on my own experience, I'd say to just remember that the first time you > play actual Joni notes (my gawd, it sounds just like the recording!!!) > you'll experience incredible ecstasy. Better than (you name it - chocolate, > sex, etc...) > Oh, I believe it! Thanks Anne. rosemjoy@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 10:38:22 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: Music lessons SJC In a message dated 5/1/01 10:07:03 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Merk54 writes: > It sounds like your teacher is keeper! > > Thanks for the encouragement Jack, I think I'll keep him for a while. Oh gosh, but my fingers are too short. Yeah I know....Practice, Practice, Practice. Now if I can just get over the silliness I feel of walking into this music school with all these little kids sitting around. You should try taking some lessons Jack, what harm could it do? - -Rose in NJ It's a beautiful day! rosemjoy@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 11:21:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Rowe Subject: Ever wonder why you never hear Joni on the radio? Click here to find out: http://www.salon.com/ent/feature/2001/03/14/payola/index.html Don Rowe ===== Visit me anytime at http://www.mp3.com/donrowe Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 12:37:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Alison E Subject: joni pics i'm not sure if anyone has already mentioned this, but i was browsing thise site for a specific photo and came across these of joni. http://www2.cea.edu/robert/Catalog.1.html sorry if it's already been discussed, but i just really like the one of her and nash. alison e. in nyc np: live ani, THANKS BOBBY! Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 19:39:14 From: "Steve Harper" Subject: "In this age of stentorian amplification..." "...aren't we glad for Joni?" (Those radio ads are TOO much!) Bob, we got the stuff, and we are loving it! (Mr. Muller sent Ken and me the Hissing Demos and other cool stuff.) (Cool sticker!) My (two-cent) commentary: There wasn't much left by Joni for the other musicians to develop on Hissing, was there? The songs seem to be fully (or almost fully) formed. I caught some lyric changes, notably in Shades of Scarlet Conquering. Fire is better than flames for that first line. Less sing-songy. And she reversed the order of greed and need: "To walk around with so much greed, to carry the weight of all that need..." (The final version is more elegant and poignant, methinks.) It is so nice to hear different vocal versions of these incredible songs. Do any of you who sing (or like to sing) perform "Shades?" Have you noticed that the melody lends itself to wonderful reinventions, my favorite being inverting the notes from a downward, falling pattern to a rising one in places that occur throughout the song, such as: "dark things she feels" "cast-iron and frail" "covers her eyes" in the X-rated scenes "man in the world" holding out his arms" In these places, Joni brings the melody downward in a "hook." Now I need to go back to the Demos and notice if she sings them differently there. Minutiae, to be sure, but God is in the ... Steve _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 15:54:14 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: "In this age of stentorian amplification..." <<"...aren't we glad for Joni?" (Those radio ads are TOO much!)>> LOL! Yes, indeed...and don't forget the profound, "Joni Mitchell is...Joni Mitchell!" :~) Glad you got it, Steve, and I hope your comments spur on some chatter. "Scarlett" is a great tune, also done to perfection by Christine Collister... And how 'bout them kazoos on "Dreamland"!! ;~) Bob NP: Meat Puppets, "Never To Be Found" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 16:18:45 -0400 (EDT) From: w evans Subject: Siquomb/HisBobness, Anima/Animus Well, it's a catchy subject but I haven't too much to say. Rather, I'm attempting to prompt Steve into writing down some of his thoughts about these two sides... We met each other because of this list, because of joni, but it so happens that I have 45 or so Bob CDs to his one (at least that one is blonde on blonde, good start) and so for the last few weeks we have finally been listening to everything Bob that there is, in order, and we've gotten up to Nashville Skyline. well, Steve has some rather interesting thoughts concerning a duality between His Bobness and Our Lady of Duality, especially as it relates to his and mine personalities and approaches to music. I let him write the rest of this. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 13:24:02 -0700 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: joni pics Not just great shots of Joni (Big Sur) and other rockers, but a visual trip through the '60's in the bay area. Cool site and worth the time! Alison E wrote: > i'm not sure if anyone has already mentioned this, but > i was browsing thise site for a specific photo and > came across these of joni. > > http://www2.cea.edu/robert/Catalog.1.html > > sorry if it's already been discussed, but i just > really like the one of her and nash. > > alison e. in nyc > np: live ani, THANKS BOBBY! > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 17:40:19 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Joni Music Video want to see a really kewl music video promoting "How do you stop"? http://www.launch.com/musicvideos/view/not_start/1,,159182~1169,00.html?vo=lis m &p=RMP&b=56 rosemjoy@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 17:47:36 -0400 From: slarty Subject: Another Joni Sims Object For all you who enjoy "The Sims" I've just added the Joni Mitchell Easel which you can download and add to your game. http://www.jmdl.com/shinytoys/tiles.cfm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 21:19:13 -0700 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: newbie guitarist Anne Dear! Please no need to go to extremes!!!! LoL. Rosy, I will very be happy to give you a free Joni actual tuning lesson in Sept. OR perhaps VERY late August. Love Michael on 5/1/01 6:41 AM, Anne Sandstrom at asandstrom@macromedia.com wrote: > Hi Rose. > > Wow! That's GREAT!!! I'm so happy for you. Welcome to the wonderful world of > wood and strings! > > Based on my own experience, I'd say to just remember that the first time you > play actual Joni notes (my gawd, it sounds just like the recording!!!) > you'll experience incredible ecstasy. Better than (you name it - chocolate, > sex, etc...) > > lots of love > Anne ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 21:19:33 -0700 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: the album form Thanks to my dear friend I also have a copy of the Dido record and I like her too. I saw a 15 min thing on TV about her last night before Morpheus stamped me out for 11+ hours. I also have a real bad case of "huh" today so whilst i catch up on all the latest, please forgive me if I sound a little outta key. BTW Alison, thanks again for the John Gorka. Great Stuff!! Love Paz NP-Someday Soon-Judy Collins and Graham Nash 60's Folk Reunion on 4/26/01 1:44 PM, Alison E at alisone4@yahoo.com wrote: > --- philipf@tinet.ie wrote: >> That's wrong, most of Joni's songs are single >> pieces of music of 3 to 5 >> minutes in duration. > > several others have refuted this statement well, so i > won't bother. suffice it to say, it's um, WRONG??? > >> Dido music is soulless nonsense. >> Philip > > as someone who owns her album and was overwhelmingly > posessed by the song "thank you", i will say that Dido > is certainly NOT SOULLESS NONSENSE! > that is your opinion, you should state it as such > rather than being flame-rific. > Dido's album "no angel" is probably not the best new > album i've purchased lately, but it is good, and i do > like it. > > alison e. in nyc > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 22:53:28 EDT From: Relayer211@aol.com Subject: "The 25th hour"-mystery novel I just finished a wonderful mystery called "The 25th hour",by David Benioff.I recommend fro all mystery lovers like me... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 23:01:32 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: newbie guitarist In a message dated 5/1/01 10:16:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jmichaelpaz@telocity.com writes: > Anne Dear! > Please no need to go to extremes!!!! LoL. Rosy, I will very be happy to give > you a free Joni actual tuning lesson in Sept. OR perhaps VERY late August. > > I'm much obliged, thanks Mikey. The more out of tune guitars, the better. rosemjoy@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 20:04:33 -0700 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: Joni Music Video Thanks for posting this, Rose! This video is really cool! Joni & Seal making a beautiful pair. I loved seeing the two of them embracing & dancing together. Very cool! Mark in Seattle > want to see a really kewl music video promoting "How do you stop"? > http://www.launch.com/musicvideos/view/not_start/1,,159182~1169,00.htm l?vo=lis > m > &p=RMP&b=56 > rosemjoy@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 23:14:22 EDT From: Relayer211@aol.com Subject: "The Sound of Trees"(Poem) I wonder about the trees Why do we wish to bear Forever the noise of these More then another noise So close to our dwelling place? We suffer them by day Till we lose all measure of pace, And fixity in our joys And acquire a listening air. They are that that talks of going But never gets away; And that talks no less for knowing, As it grows wiser and older, That now it means to stay. My feet tug at the floor And my head sways to my shoulder Sometimes when I watch trees sway, From the window or the door. I shall set forth for somewhere, I shall make the reckless choice Someday when they are in voice And tossing so as to scare The white clouds over them on. I shall have less to say, But I shall be gone. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 23:26:33 EDT From: Relayer211@aol.com Subject: Re: "The Sound of Trees"(Poem) Sorry-I didn't mean to imply that I wrote this poem. Robert Frost wrote it. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 16:10:57 +1200 From: "hell" Subject: Re: Joni Music Video Rose wrote: > want to see a really kewl music video promoting "How do you stop"? > http://www.launch.com/musicvideos/view/not_start/1,,159182~1169,00.html?vo=l ism&p=RMP&b=56 I love Launch.com. I tried Sonicnet, but found it too hard to program. Launch.com works the same way, but it's really simple to set up, and very easy to eliminate artists and/or songs or albums from your playlist. And the range of music videos is great - even some recent CSNY videos, which definitely haven't had any air-time over here! Hell ____________________________ "To have great poets, there must be great audiences too." - Walt Whitman hell@ihug.co.nz Hell's Personal Photo Page: http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hell/main/personal.htm Visit the NBLs (Natural Born Losers) at: http://www.nbls.co.nz ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 02:40:52 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: "The 25th hour"-mystery novel relayer, is that a very very very old one? i remember my aunts had a mystery called the 25th hour when i was a child. i am reading the miss melville thrillers [miss melville regrets, miss melville rides a tiger, etc..] they're a hoot. they're about an upper class lady that misfires when she tries to kill herself and ends up killing another person, thus beginning her very lucrative career as a ''hitwoman''. i'm laughing my head off! wallyK, np: aztec camera: deep and wide and tall - -----Mensaje original----- De: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]En nombre de Relayer211@aol.com Enviado el: Martes, 01 de Mayo de 2001 11:53 p.m. Para: Joni@smoe.org Asunto: "The 25th hour"-mystery novel I just finished a wonderful mystery called "The 25th hour",by David Benioff.I recommend fro all mystery lovers like me... ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #138 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?