From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #116 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Wednesday, April 11 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 116 The 'Official' Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. Information on the 4th "Annual" New England JoniFest: http://www.jmdl.com/jfne2001.cfm The Joni Chat Room: http://www.jmdl.com/chat.cfm ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Blame it all on Smoe [mags ] back from vacation ["Kate Bennett" ] RE: What I'd really love to ask Joni. ["Chris Marshall" ] John thingy and Yoko wotsername [Gordon Mackie ] Re: What I'd really love to ask Joni. [catman ] the fiddle and the drum [greenstudio@sympatico.ca] Re: hollywood bowl setlist [dsk ] Re: What I'd really love to ask Joni. [Don Rowe ] Some loose ends [Tyler Hewitt ] Re: What I'd really love to ask Joni. [jan gyn ] Re: Mo' Covers: Sweet #16... [FMYFL@aol.com] Re: What I'd really love to ask Joni. [catman ] Re: What I'd really love to ask Joni. [Coyote4Joni@aol.com] Re: What I'd really love to ask Joni.] [catman ] Re: What I'd really love to ask Joni. ["Kate Bennett" ] Lighten up ["janine sherman" ] Re: hollywood bowl setlist ["Victor Johnson" ] Re: What I'd really love to ask Joni. [Coyote4Joni@aol.com] Re: hollywood bowl setlist [Coyote4Joni@aol.com] RE: hollywood bowl setlist ["Kate Bennett" ] What I'd really love to ask Joni [evian ] Re: Mo' Covers: Sweet #16... ["Kakki" ] Re: hollywood bowl setlist ["Kakki" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 06:51:29 -0500 From: mags Subject: Re: Blame it all on Smoe Coyote4Joni@aol.com wrote: > > OK, so let's all make something up. So, Joni is doing a star turn at the > Hollywood Bowl. I think this will be her first time at my favorite > (acoustically incorrect, for now anyway) venue. The first song from her > repertoire is, oh I don't know, let's say, Coyote. > > She does the song, then gives a ten minute lecture to and about all the > Coyotes of the world. Then she opens the concert up to audience requests. > Someone(s) suggest the playlist. > my request: hmm only one??? Case of You...or Down to You or Trouble Child...hmmm why not all three? And then James Taylor would be on hand to do You Can Close Your Eyes with her. Love, Mags. - -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- _~O / /\_, ___/\ /_ - ----------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 03:29:46 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: back from vacation Just back from a little vacation in Hawaii. Walked on the beach past the Pink Hotel with a Swinging Hot Spot. It was a beautiful full moon night & so on our drive home I sang Night Ride Home to my hubbie...(The last time I was in Hawaii it was during the 4th of July!) ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics www.polysonics.com Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 12:04:32 +0100 From: "Chris Marshall" Subject: RE: What I'd really love to ask Joni. John, not Richard, wrote some things he'd ask of Joni. > Would you be my friend? > Can I have a key? > Will you paint me a painting? > Will you promise me at least 3 more original recordings? (One with a > tight jazz band. One acoustic. One, whatever you like. All with lots and > lots of words!) Y'know, my head wants to ask the "songs" question, but my heart wants to ask the "friend" question. It's probably better overall if the head wins... I mean, no-one wants me marching up to them and declaring friendship just like that! And John, I'm with you on the tight jazz band front. - --Chris ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 05:11:12 -0700 (PDT) From: christopher blake Subject: hollywood bowl setlist coyote rick has requested a setlist for joni's upocoming hollywood bowl concert: 1. coyote 2. lead balloon 3. in france they kiss on main street 4. car on a hill 5. black crow 6. paprika plains (acoustic) 7. carey (acoustic) 8. this flight tonight (acoustic) 9. amelia 10.hejira 11.sire of sorrow (with special guest: christopher blake) 12.sex kills (with same guest) 13.big yellow taxi 14.my secret place (with pg) 15.bass solo/percussion solo 16.dreamland 17.furry sings the blues encores- joni solo/guitar 18.a case of you 19.magdelene laundries 20. 21.keep on rollin' whew! what a show, and i really wasn't expecting that last one. any other suggestions? cool idea rick! Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 13:13:44 +0100 From: Gordon Mackie Subject: John thingy and Yoko wotsername Dear Paul 1 (for it is He) You said to me that John Lennon would not find deifying a musician (neither would anyone in here I suspect...never the point of 'that' Church) not even as a joke and that Bjork is emulating Yoko Ono more than anyone you can think of. Could it be that you are a double agent for another website. I think we should be told (... maniacal laughter fades into the echoey distance) Gordon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 08:28:39 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Three Dog night <> Thanks, Gary! And Relayer, don't forget that the JMDL houses the most thorough database on Joni covers in the world. Just look at "Joni Undercover", and you'll 'uncover' everything you want to know! And it expands almost every day Les has set it up so you can sort by artist, song title, CD volume, and even let you know what we're in search of so you can go raid your parent's record collection for that Percy Faith recording of Big Yellow Taxi! ;~) The Three Dog Night cover is a good one, and is available along with all the other volumes to any JMDL'er who wants to send me blank CD's and return postage... Bob NP: Joe Jackson, "One More Time" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 08:38:23 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Joni takes requests <> If I ain't mistaken, you're being offered a CD a month that pretty much falls in *this* category...;~) <> Well, of course I would be happy with anything, as would all of us I'm sure...but she could: 1. Segue from the howling Coyote to the howling Wolf That Lives in Lindsay; 2. Just continue on with the rest of Hejira! ;~) 3. Play all the NEW SONGS she's working on; 4. Take a stab at Paprika Plains! :~) Thanks for the dream, CoyoteRick... Bob NP: Joe J, "Hell of a Town" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 08:55:11 EDT From: Coyote4Joni@aol.com Subject: Re: hollywood bowl setlist Christopher Blake wrote: Whew! What a show, and I really wasn't expecting that last one. any other suggestions? Coyote Rick responds: Thanks for playing Chris (or do u prefer Christopher?). I love the line-up. But, it's only midnight by now, what about the second curtain call. Joni, JoNI, JONI!!! Welcome back from Hawaii, Kate! Coyote Rick Casa Alegre Hollywood, California ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 09:04:23 EDT From: Coyote4Joni@aol.com Subject: Joni's Hollywood Bowl Concert In a message dated 04/10/2001 3:49:15 AM Pacific Daylight Time, pholden@iprimus.ca writes: Mags proposes: << my request: hmm only one??? Case of You...or Down to You or Trouble Child...hmmm why not all three? And then James Taylor would be on hand to do You Can Close Your Eyes with her. >> Coyote Rick Responds: Mags, thanks for playing! Heck, you can do a whole setlist. So, what about the others?? I like JT being there, not to mention our very own Christopher Blake. I am also hoping Yoko will now be on hand. :-) Coyote Rick Casa Alegre Hollywood, California ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 06:24:09 -0700 (PDT) From: christopher blake Subject: Re: hollywood bowl setlist - --- Coyote4Joni@aol.com wrote: > Christopher Blake wrote: > > Whew! What a show, and I really wasn't expecting > that > last one. any other suggestions? > > Coyote Rick responds: > > Thanks for playing Chris (or do u prefer > Christopher?). I love the line-up. > But, it's only midnight by now, what about the > second curtain call. Joni, > JoNI, JONI!!! > > Welcome back from Hawaii, Kate! > > Coyote Rick > Casa Alegre > Hollywood, California > hi rick! ('chris' is fine btw amongst friends) second curtain call: introduces: john scolfield, larry klein, vinny calieuta (wrong spelling, but joni would pronounce it correctly - i imagine she's good that way),herbie hancock and branford marsalis, each to thunderous applause. then in the late night smog that is hollywood: 1. dry cleaner from des moines 2. goodbye pork pie hat 3. hellhound on my trail (a la: cassandra wilson) 4. herbie's piano solo/summertime/john's guitar solo/ free man in paris (and by now of course, the union laborers are so impressed by the happening that is unfolding, they allow two more numbers): 5. twisted joni re-introduces peter gabriel to pandemonium (mostly by me i suspect) and they and the band reprise 6. summertime (pg's done it as well)/in you eyes/ woodstock and even though coyote rick and all do not want to leave, we must because we jmdlers are invited to a private party at the 'cat and fiddle' tavern. rick - where in hollywood? i lived at the corner on kingsley and sunset, there was a Shakey's Pizza on the corner. i moved there after 5 months in an apartment at vermont ave up by the entrance of griffith park. (corner of vermont and franklin - where some of "double indemnity" with fred mcmurray was shot). boy! can i ramble :) have an awesome day - chris(topher) Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 14:40:44 +0100 From: catman Subject: Re: What I'd really love to ask Joni. Gis a fag? Wanna coffe? You do realise we can never be more than friend's? will you put a tune to my more cheerful lyric? will you do a duet with Carly? what do you think the purpose of life is? if you could go back in time, do think you would re think Mingus? is there anyone you think is as good as you musically? when is your next self penned work coming out? does it bother you that people criticise you for smoking? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 10:54:43 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: re: Tanglewood <> Cool, CC! I assumed since there are lots of Joni fans in the area that a few of you haad been there. This recording is a pretty good one, it has two edits. Amelia starts up in mid-song, and Shadows & Light cuts out. But it does include Big Yellow Taxi and Just Like This Train which were the opening numbers, and Jaco's solo, which for me is one of the highlights of the tour, with Jaco going off into space and always using Hendrix's "Third Stone From The Sun" to bring himself back to earth. It also includes "The Last Time I Saw Richard" (on piano) which was one of the traditional encore numbers she did on the tour. The audience of course goes nuts when she starts singing. On a related note, what an outstanding group of musicians on this tour! I started watching the video again night before last, and the awe and joy that Alias, Pastorius, Metheny, Brecker have as they totally immerse themselves in Joni's music is a true marvel! Bob NP: Joe J, "Moonlight Theme" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 07:57:31 -0700 From: Steve Dulson Subject: Joni Goes To Hollywood Coyote Rick wrote: >So, Joni is doing a star turn at the >Hollywood Bowl. I think this will be her first time at my favorite >(acoustically incorrect, for now anyway) venue. Consulting the all-knowing Dulson concert database, we find: Mitchell, Joni Hollywood Bowl Hollywood 6/15/79 It was part of the Playboy Jazz festival. Also on the bill: Basie, Count Orchestra Goodman, Benny Land, Harold Quintet Mingus Dynasty I think it was also the last time I ever hitch-hiked. Sue and I left early, before the shuttle buses were running to the satellite parking lots. - -- ######################################################## Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA steve@psitech.com "The Tinker's Own" http://www.tinkersown.com "Southern California Dulcimer Heritage" http://www.cpmusic.com/scdh "The Living Tradition Concert Series" http://www.thelivingtradition.org/ ------------------------------ Date: 10 Apr 2001 11:07:47 -0800 From: greenstudio@sympatico.ca Subject: the fiddle and the drum It is so weird, like watching coronation street every fourth day.....I get all the tearful farewells and I miss all the fights.....I think I'm missing posts.......if I'm not missing posts I'm missing something way too rarified for this Injun. I like a fight, god knows, but jeez, what the hell is everybody fighting about? I just want to know. I don't want to join in, honestly. I've lost track of the narrative, I'm out of the loop. I lurk in other lives from the studio here, in retreat from the disjointed absurdity of social discourse and when I check in each morning somebody's always slamming outa the house and here I sit wondering what the fuck that was all about. I'm beginning to think white people are just too sensitive. Oh, just joking about that white people thing - but if I start a dogfight at least I'll know what started it. Are people having private fights in back rooms. Do I gotta buy a ticket? Kewl. greenstudio ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 13:02:44 -0400 From: dsk Subject: Re: hollywood bowl setlist Coyote4Joni@aol.com wrote: > OK, so let's all make something up. So, Joni is doing a star turn at the > Hollywood Bowl. I think this will be her first time at my favorite > (acoustically incorrect, for now anyway) venue. The first song from her > repertoire is, oh I don't know, let's say, Coyote. ... and then she sits down at the piano and says "these are some things I'm working on" and plays through her works in progess, stumbling a little maybe, giggling, singing the lyrics she's figured out, redoing passages, pausing to think, and then going with what she has so far from beginning to end, one song at at time, with maybe a bass player adding to the sound, while we all hold our breath so we don't miss anything. And after a while she eases into Paprika Plains and other musicians join in one by one, and we're all back into familiar territory. Hanging out during the chaos of creating can be exhilerating and anxiety-provoking too, so Paprika Plains sounds "updated" but it's still an old friend. Aaahhhh. And then she picks up her guitar and plays a few more of her new songs, ones none of us have heard before, and these are a little more polished than the piano tunes. Wow! And then for old times sake I'd love to hear her do Amelia, in a spare way, just her guitar and a bass. That would be one amazing concert! Debra Shea NP: Richard Buckner, Blue and Wonder ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 10:40:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Rowe Subject: Re: What I'd really love to ask Joni. Will you marry me again? Was I the only person who thought that perm looked cute? Do you really think I'm on Prozac? Did you love Jackson, or James, or David, or Cary, or Graham, or the other David, or me the best? What do I have to do to get you to treat me like one of your cats? "Man From Mars" is really about me, isn't it? How often do you put on Dog Eat Dog? More or less than "Chalkmark In A Rainstorm? More or less than "Night Ride Home"? More or less than "Mingus"? If I bought you a piano, would you play it for me? Larry Klein ===== Visit me anytime at http://www.mp3.com/donrowe Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 10:52:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Tyler Hewitt Subject: Some loose ends OK, a couple pieces of business: I apperantly quoted, in my last post, a private e-mail thet Marcel sent me which pissed him off quite a bit. I don't want to envoke his wrath yet again (and recieve another threatning e-mail) so I'll share my REPLY to him: "Everyone on the Joni list who posts (to the list) commenting on something I've said also sends a copy to me as a seperate e-mail message. My assumption is that your message to me was another of those. As I thought it was going to the entire list, I saw no problem with quoting it. I have no way of telling if something you send to me is not going to the entire list. I was following your past precedent. The rest of your message is so insulting and full of anger that I won't comment on it save one small thing: The comment about Sutcliffe and necrophelia was supposed to be a JOKE. I thought I had made that clear. I was trying to ward off the inevitable stroke heading your way by lightening things up a bit. Now that I see it's backfired I suggest yoga, or barring that, a couple shots of good tequila to help you deal with your anger. If I sent something to the Joni group that you did not want others to see, then I apologise. A small mistake does not make me an imbecile, stupid, or self-centered, as your message claims. I would suggest that filling ones self full of pure hatred or someone they have never met DOES." _______________________ OK, enough of that ugliness. On a somewhat related message, I replied to Paul I's message to me which he also posted to the list (see-he posted both to ME and THE LIST! I'm on this list in digest form, and dont see what gets posted here until later.) and then waw it on the digest, so I'll respond to all: "Plastic Ono Band was the name of John's first solo album, with Working Class Hero, Mother, God, I Found Out, Love, Look at Me etc. Was there another?" Yes. Yoko also had an lp from the same time with the title Yoko Ono-Plastic Ono Band. Nearly identical cover to Johns record. Yoko's lp Fly from 1971 uses the same typeface and has a very similar cover to John's Imagine lp. I think this was all by design-they wanted to release 'mirror' or 'twin' records. It only lasted through those two sets of releases, though. They joined up after that on 'Sometime in NYC'. Needless to say, Yoko's Plastic Ono Band is very different from John's. Some interesting musicians on it-Lennon, Ringo, Ornette Coleman, Charlie Haden, etc. It's a good one. Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 10:54:09 -0700 From: jan gyn Subject: Re: What I'd really love to ask Joni. Would you consider your song, 'Chuck E.'s In Love', autobiographical? And if it is, is 'Chuck E.' black? Gay? Nice Miyake- did you get it new? Do you and Bjork ever share clothing? - -jan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 14:23:30 -0400 From: dsk Subject: Re: Some loose ends Probably everyone at one time or another has received such hateful private messages from Marcel, always with the demand that it all be kept private, which is classic abuser behavior. Requests to not receive such email are completely disregarded. I see this as a major problem on this list. No one else on this list behaves in this way, and the way we all keep ignoring or working around it (filters for example) just allows the behavior to continue. So what's up Marcel? Why not spill your guts publicly, the way the rest of us do? Debra Shea NP: Richard Thompson, Turning of the Tide Tyler Hewitt wrote: > I apperantly quoted, in my last post, a private e-mail > thet Marcel sent me which pissed him off quite a bit. > I don't want to envoke his wrath yet again (and > recieve another threatning e-mail) so I'll share my > REPLY to him: ... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 14:21:53 EDT From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: Mo' Covers: Sweet #16... Santa Bob just delivered the Joni Covers CD for my "Sweet 16th" LOL This is one of my favorite covers to date, and I have ALL of them. Bob's summary of the tracks were extremely accurate, but I'll add my 2cents to some of the tracks. Hoyt Axton, "He Played Real Good For Free" I happen to be a country music fan (please don't throw me off the list :~), and Hoyt did a great job with this song. The P.D.U.S.M., "Urge For Going" LOL on this one Bob, you were so right about this 60's girls group. It does sound like they're about to sing "Leader of the Pack" Lisa Yves, "The Dry Cleaner From Des Moines" Lisa Yves, "Twisted" Lisa does a great job on both of these songs. I've only heard them both done better by our own birthday fairy Wally K.. I still can't believe the instrumentals are all done by kids under 14. Quite talented. Lydia van Dam, "Black Crow" As in her previous covers of Joni songs, Lydia does a magnificent job. I would love to have an entire CD of Lydia's Joni covers. She rules!!! Michael Ball, "River" I've never heard of Michael Ball, but he's got a great voice and does a superb job of "River" O.C. Smith, "Just Couldn't Help Myself" Well, if Joni co-wrote this song, I'd say she was doing some writing for "The Love Boat" and "Love American Style" too :~) Singers Unlimited - "Chelsea Morning" I really liked this Manhattan Transfer style version of the song, and I'd love to be one of the Patrick Leader dancers too! P.M. Dawn, "Night In The City" EXCELLENT!!! Quite different way of performing one of my favorite Joni tunes. I just want to thank all the contributors to the CD, and always a special thanks to my good friend Bob Muller. You're the best! I can't tell you how much I appreciate all your efforts to keep this wonderful project going. Love to everyone, Jimmy (who has to find some non-pleated pants so I won't be laughed at in L.A.) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 19:48:46 +0100 From: catman Subject: Re: What I'd really love to ask Joni. jan gyn wrote: > Would you consider your song, 'Chuck E.'s In Love', autobiographical? > > And if it is, is 'Chuck E.' black? Gay? mmm...I think that is an RLJ song! > > > Nice Miyake- did you get it new? I have some Issy smellies. nice. > > > Do you and Bjork ever share clothing? > > -jan - -- bw colin colin@tantra.fsbusiness.co.uk http://www.geocities.com/tantra_apso/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 19:50:23 +0100 From: catman Subject: Re: What I'd really love to ask Joni. I wonder if Joni does play her own records? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 11:57:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Rowe Subject: Re: What I'd really love to ask Joni. - --- catman wrote: > > > I wonder if Joni does play her own records? > That really IS an interesting question. My guess would be ... probably not. I write and record my own songs, but play them only while I'm in the recording and production phase. Once they're "done" ... listening to the finished results isn't actually a very enjoyable experience, since all I can hear are the little "mistakes", and other "things I'd have done differently". It really can be quite maddening. But, who knows -- Prince has claimed he pretty much listens ONLY to his own stuff (and it shows, in my opinion) ... so I could easily be all wet! Don Rowe ===== Visit me anytime at http://www.mp3.com/donrowe Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 15:03:13 EDT From: Coyote4Joni@aol.com Subject: Re: What I'd really love to ask Joni. In a message dated 04/10/2001 11:12:15 AM Pacific Daylight Time, jgyn@muse.sfusd.k12.ca.us writes: Jan jokes: Would you consider your song, 'Chuck E.'s In Love', autobiographical? And if it is, is 'Chuck E.' black? Gay? Nice Miyake- did you get it new? Do you and Bjork ever share clothing? Rick writes: This absolutely cracks me up, Jan. I am laughing so hard here in Jackson, MS. The funniest one yet. More levity, PLEASE! Coyote Rick Casa Alegre Hollywood, California ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 20:08:05 +0100 From: catman Subject: Re: What I'd really love to ask Joni.] > Once they're "done" ... listening to the finished > results isn't actually a very enjoyable experience, > since all I can hear are the little "mistakes", and > other "things I'd have done differently". It really > can be quite maddening. Although my design work is a different thing, I think I know just what you mean. When I have completed a grment I am usaully pleased with it but once I have done the next one, I become less satifsfied witht e previous piece and I can see all the mistakes or how I coulkd have done it differently or whatever. Others compliments are good to hear but I walways think to myself yes but..... I also do a fair amount of public speaking for which i seem to have a flair. I get vcomplimented on that too but I always think i could have done better. So I think I understand what it woul be like listening to your own music. > > > But, who knows -- Prince has claimed he pretty much > listens ONLY to his own stuff (and it shows, in my > opinion) ... so I could easily be all wet! > > Don Rowe > > ===== > Visit me anytime at http://www.mp3.com/donrowe > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - -- bw colin colin@tantra.fsbusiness.co.uk http://www.geocities.com/tantra_apso/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 15:40:29 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Mo' Covers: Sweet #16... <> Good one, Jimmy!! You know, I couldn't put my finger on what that one sounded like, but you hit it right on the head! It definitely has that Love Boat sound all over it! Sadly, the Lydia CD is out of print. (But you wouldn't be the first person to ask me to burn you a copy of it.);~) It really is superb from start to finish! Thanks for the good words, you know I always love to hear you praise my lil' babies! :~) Bob NP: BRAND NEW Ani, "tamburitza lingua" (I just snuck out and bought it...shhhhh..) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 15:46:29 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni Goes To Hollywood <> And just to expand Coyote's education further, here was the ACTUAL setlist: 1. Introduction (Bill Cosby) 2. Coyote 3. A Chair In The Sky 4. Dreamland 5. Black Crow 6. Goodbye Pork Pie Hat 7. The Dry Cleaner From Des Moines jonimitchell.com has a poster advertising the show as well... Bob NP: Ani, "heartbreak even" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 15:48:40 EDT From: MDESTE1@aol.com Subject: Tomorrows response fear not. (md) To all concerned listers: Why should a person get away with attempting to censor free thoughts no different than many before it; personalizing insults over something they totally misunderstood at the same time. If it was you what would you do. Then they take a private post, selectively edit it to their own purposes, and make false accusations about "threats" that never happened. To not respond is to allow such defamatory stuff to go unanswered. My suggestion is that all those who want to ignore the entire matter to do so. Delete it. On the other hand you might want to read it. This is an opportunity to lessen these kinds of things but people have to know what happened. I have up until the most recent posts allowed much to be said and assumed without public response. This last thing claimed however i dont think should go unanswered. Those who know me I welcome your advice and input.Trust that I have no intention of making the issue bigger and hurling more personal counterstatements. I think it is time f! or clarity of the general issue. I would be more than happy to first send it to L es and let him vette it prior to me posting it. marcel deste ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 13:35:18 -0700 From: jan gyn Subject: Re: What I'd really love to ask Joni. 'Sex Kills?' Howabout SECOND HAND SMOKE KILLS? Since Melissa Etheridge had a child, does that make you an aunt? I read in SPIN that you're Sheryl Crow's mother. Is that true? I bet you're wondering if that's a cigarette in my pocket... - -jan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 16:46:42 EDT From: Rusty10113@aol.com Subject: Re: What I'd really love to ask Joni. That's what I would love to know: Does Joni ever turn on Joni, a song like For Free, perhaps, and sing along with herself, in her kitchen, stirring up old memories? I know it's not her style, and she loathes going back, but for some reason, the picture of her doing that appeals to me, in some way.. any thoughts? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 22:34:35 +0100 (BST) From: pyramus@lineone.net Subject: Ode to Joni Ode to Joni by pyramus She is queen undisputedly of mind beauty A girl whose life was shaped by duty; Searching for her guiding star She tried to show us who we are By telling us about herself; The booby traps of pride and wealth, Of life and laughter, love and hate; Those things to which we all relate. With all the knowledge life acquaints She sings in swirling oils and paints Words woven fast with woe and wonder; Hypocrisy is blown asunder. Painting colours, Painting words, Showing how it's too absurd To take for granted all we know Before we take that trip below. The colours of her life have been A little blue with Little Green Miami red and Indigo The colours really ebb and flow. River of darkness, shadows and light, A Black Crow slowly taking flight. A palette of sparkling words reveals The way she really thinks and feels. A mind that never fails to thrill That sees the point of mans good will And sees the faults so clear and stark Can usually create a spark. Shes had to come in from the cold For the story that she has told Is hard for some to understand, But surely some revelation is at hand. To various members of the JMDL William Butler Yeats and of course Joni.... ...thanks for the inspirational words. pyramus ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 18:12:56 -0400 From: Vince Lavieri Subject: Survivor Don Rowe wrote: > So come on folks ... think of it as Survivor. Debra Shea wrote: This will pass, soon we all hope, although unless it's played out fully it will just pop up soon in another form. So, delete delete delete whatever is bothersome and look forward to truly better times. Like Debra, I hope that all this fighting in the JMDL will pass. However, Don has tipped us off to what is really happening: we are voting each other off one by one until the day there will be one of us left in the JMDL. There are times to jump on things that are offensive to us and there are times to let it go. It is my firm belief that it we all need to stop having the last word. Right now, to quote Joni, "I can't even hear the fuckin' music playin' for the beat of..." the jumping on of each other in here. We can be right without having to say it. We can let things slide by. There has been so much hostility in here. Can't we just let some things slide for now? Can't we let things be? Too many folks are having enough of this place. Before we are all gone, can't we all stop being right and shelve our best salvoes and just be about Joni and about being friends before we drive everyone out of here? It will be cold consolation to be right and not to have the JMDL anymore. I want to hear the music again. I want to hear Joni. I want my friends to stop driving each other out of the JMDL. (the Rev) Vince ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 15:07:00 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Re: What I'd really love to ask Joni. Larry wrote: Will you marry me again? Oh Larry. Was I the only person who thought that perm looked cute? Yes. Do you really think I'm on Prozac? No. Did you love Jackson, or James, or David, or Cary, or Graham, or the other David, or me the best? You of course, then Graham, then James. But, Larry, why did you choose me? What do I have to do to get you to treat me like one of your cats? Purr. "Man From Mars" is really about me, isn't it? Yes. How often do you put on Dog Eat Dog? Never. More or less than "Chalkmark In A Rainstorm? see above More or less than "Night Ride Home"? see above More or less than "Mingus"? see above If I bought you a piano, would you play it for me? Of course. Love, Joni (FOR ANY NEW SUBSCRIBERS, THIS WAS NOT REALLY WRITTEN BY LARRY & JONI) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 15:06:59 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: hollywood bowl setlist Coyote4Joni@aol.com wrote: > OK, so let's all make something up. So, Joni is doing a star turn at the > Hollywood Bowl. I think this will be her first time at my favorite > (acoustically incorrect, for now anyway) venue. The first song from her > repertoire is, oh I don't know, let's say, Coyote. then Debra Shea... >>>and then she sits down at the piano and says "these are some things I'm working on" and plays through her works in progess, stumbling a little maybe, giggling, singing the lyrics she's figured out, redoing passages, pausing to think, and then going with what she has so far from beginning to end, one song at at time, with maybe a bass player adding to the sound, while we all hold our breath so we don't miss anything.<<< and me: Since its a fantasy concert, we would at first hear, not see that bass player, and marvel at how much he sounded like Jaco, then the spotlight would show that it WAS Jaco, who as it turns out, has been just chilling out for awhile, & cleaning up, away from the music biz & all its pressures... ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics www.polysonics.com Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 21:08:34 -0400 From: "janine sherman" Subject: Lighten up My dear Joniphiles, Far be it from me to irritate, agitate, congratulate, or cajole -but why are so many people leaving (or threatening to leave) this list? Are some just defectors from the petty wars or are we folks who need drama and finger pointing for excitement? Are we looking for complacent agreement or stimulating diversity? I get a kick out of hearing all the different opinions (and a few laughs) and have yet to grasp the source of all the bad feelings. Am I missing something here? Not as invested as some? I don't get it. Every single person that I have ever been in touch with in the chat room or privately has been incredibly generous and kind. I have been able to transcend decades of Joni history and music in a matter of months. Plus, I have been introduced to a half dozen or more other artists I would not have known existed. I guess it all boils down to what are we looking for in this list? Personally, I have found infinitely more than I ever dreamt of finding when I typed those letters in the search space. Let's lighten' up!!!! "My friends were calling up all day yesterday all emotions and abstractions It seems we all live so close to that line and so far from satisfaction." Thanks for everything - the good, bad, and the ugly. Janine P.S. I have to say that my family thinks I am close to joining the church of Joni, so that thread hit home. It made me think, but mostly laugh. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 21:14:35 -0400 From: "Victor Johnson" Subject: Re: hollywood bowl setlist > and me: Since its a fantasy concert, we would at first hear, not see that > bass player, and marvel at how much he sounded like Jaco, then the spotlight > would show that it WAS Jaco, who as it turns out, has been just chilling out > for awhile, & cleaning up, away from the music biz & all its pressures... along with John Coltrane on saxophone, Jerry Garcia on guitar, Erroll Garner on keyboards, Buddy Rich on drums, and featuring Zamfir the magic pan flute artist...who makes it all possible. Hurry up and buy your tickets now! Tomorrow night at the Hollywood Bowl...at midnight! Victor Johnson http://www.cdbaby.com/victorjohnson "Just beyond the morning falls the river of your dreams, Escaping from the day these wild creatures run away." Victor Johnson ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 23:16:29 EDT From: Coyote4Joni@aol.com Subject: Re: What I'd really love to ask Joni. In a message dated 04/10/2001 3:42:00 PM Pacific Daylight Time, kate@katebennett.com writes: << Was I the only person who thought that perm looked cute? Yes. >> Dear Joni and Larry: I really liked the perm era and have a framed photo in my hallway as proof. You rock, Joni, with or without hair chemicals. And, Larry, DED is my favorite. See you both at my after Bowl party. Love, Coyote Rick xoxo ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 23:30:00 EDT From: Coyote4Joni@aol.com Subject: Re: hollywood bowl setlist In a message dated 04/10/2001 6:25:21 PM Pacific Daylight Time, waytoblu@mindspring.com writes: Victor imagines: ...along with John Coltrane on saxophone, Jerry Garcia on guitar, Erroll Garner on keyboards, Buddy Rich on drums, and featuring Zamfir the magic pan flute artist...who makes it all possible. Hurry up and buy your tickets now! Tomorrow night at the Hollywood Bowl...at midnight! ... Coyote Rick adds: Victor, you forgot Janis, who will be on hand to solo Raised on Robbery. By the way, checks for tickets ($30, first ten rows, center) can be mailed or pay-palled to Ashara - in the names of Jim or Les. Don't miss this memorable concert. There is a Pre-Sunrise Santa Maria Barbecue at my house following (with Joni on vocals -- she needs a back up band -- email me privately for details). Naturally, for JMDLers this post event is included in the ticket price. See you tomorrow!! Coyote Rick (just a postin' fool!) Casa Alegre Hollywood, California ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 20:18:39 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE: hollywood bowl setlist Coyote Rick adds: Victor, you forgot Janis, who will be on hand to solo Raised on Robbery. Me: and also jimi will be there to play his lovely song little wing & tell us that yes he did indeed write it about joni & so she will sing harmony with him on the choruses ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com sponsored by Polysonics www.polysonics.com Discover the Indies at Taylor Guitars: http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/bennett.html ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 22:15:59 -0600 From: evian Subject: What I'd really love to ask Joni You know, the only thing I thought to ask Joni during my 60 seconds with her was (get this, how odd it is...) if it was Johnny Angel or Charlie Angel... LOL, and then I chickened out and didn't even bother! So, for sure, that's what I'd ask her if I ever saw her again. However, over a couple of drinks, I'd get her to dish the dirt on everyone and everything. Evian ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 21:55:01 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Mo' Covers: Sweet #16... After dragging myself home from yet another late night at work, I also found the Sweet 16 from Bobaroo in my mailbox and am playing through it now. It's very nice and soothing (and that's a good thing for me right now ;-) Thanks to Bob and the contributors! > Jimmy (who has to find some non-pleated pants so I won't be laughed at in > L.A.) Oh now Jimmy, you are always stylin', and can show us a few things - don't change a thing! Can't wait to peel an olive with you ;-) Kakki NP: O.C. Smith - Just Couldn't Help Myself (Bob, please explain!) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 23:34:46 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: hollywood bowl setlist Chris, this is a perfect idea! The original Cat and Fiddle was a magical place up in either Laurel Canyon or Beverly Glen (I forget, but think it was BG). I may be wrong but I think they had to move out because of residents' complaints of noise (from music and partiers) and then it became some an exclusive restaurant (maybe the Four Oaks?). I remember reading somewhere years ago that it was a Joni hangout in the old days. I like the one in Hollywood, too. Kakki > and even though coyote rick and all do not want to > leave, we must because we jmdlers are invited to a > private party at the 'cat and fiddle' tavern. ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #116 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?