From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #106 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Tuesday, April 3 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 106 The 'Official' Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. Information on the 4th "Annual" New England JoniFest: http://www.jmdl.com/jfne2001.cfm The Joni Chat Room: http://www.jmdl.com/chat.cfm ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- My MTV Life (SJC) [MDESTE1@aol.com] Question??..... [liz@helloworld.tc] Re: My MTV Life (SJC) [mags ] Re: Question??..... [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Testing..and then some (sjc) ["Christopher J. Treacy" ] Re: Question??..... [JRMCo1@aol.com] Re: Luka covers Joni [jclarknyc@netscape.net (Jeff Clark)] Re: Luka covers Joni [Gertus@aol.com] Re: My MTV Life (SJC) [Catherine McKay ] Re: My MTV Life (SJC) [catman ] Re: [fionaapplelist] Why No One Answers... [Randy Remote ] Re: [fionaapplelist] Why No One Answers... [catman ] My CD Addictions ["BRIAN SYMES" ] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #105 [Riveragelsinger@aol.com] Re: Liz's BYT Question [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Church of Joni [Catherine McKay ] Re: For The Roses [Rusty10113@aol.com] Church of Mitchell/Joni's Bar and Grill ["BRIAN SYMES" Subject: Re: My MTV Life (SJC) MDESTE1@aol.com wrote: > > << But the scene out the windows > of your car is ever changing. Visions, places, sunsets, bridges, trees, other > cars, people walking by, it just always changes and living in San Francisco > and the bay area of course gives my eyes an endless stream of amazing views. > All of which brings me around to how much I like the CD player in my car. > Lately since Bob Mueller sent it to me I have had the Ashara Fest 2000 tape > on and I have this string of songs played by the ladies who played there that > lasts the precise time of my commute so in the early morning drive most > mornings I have been playing this group of songs. > Going through downtown SF in the darkness and the fog and listening to > Annes song was just ethereal as well. Of course then theres the real deal > which is Joni doing Good Friends from DED as I speed down the onramp to hit > the freeway. Then of course theres Emmy Lou. Which is how I practice my > singing. Maybe you have the same experience with your car as I do. It would > be interesting to know. >>> still waking up but moved by your post to say...yea I relate!!! Marcel, I know just what you mean. .. I dont have a CD player in my car...just a tape player however.... I completely relate to your post about driving to the music with scenes flashing before you, around you, inside you. Id love to have the luxury of choosing a song to the particular scene etc...however, the tape deck does the trick, for now...perhaps cuz I know no other way. I have a wonderful little Toyota Corolla... no fancy perks, not even auto locks. Its all good, sure beats Das Boat, the unbearable rustmobile of a tank I used to drive up until now. But alas, I digress. What strikes a familiar chord is that you practice your singing in the car....I always do that ... always. (just ask Brian ;) It is such a release of energy and everything. I also get stuck on one tape for a long while...right now it is Bruce Cockburn's Circles in the Stream....a live album recorded at Massey Hall in Toronto ... one of the city's treasures. (the hall and Bruce). Anyway....there is one song called Arrows of Light...with very simple lyrics and in it is the line "life is singing"...which is surrounded by a magnificent emsemble of percussion and sounds including a tabla, marimba and I cant tell what all else but every time I hear it, I am practically dancing in the car. I imagine us all at Ashara's doing this on stage. It is so inspiring... and I am sure that the Bruce Cockburn fans on the list know this song. thanks for the great post Marcel. take care, Mags. - -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- _~O / /\_, ___/\ /_ - ----------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 08:58:14 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Question??..... Hi Liz, Well, I'll be glad to tell you what I know about BYT...she has introduced the song in concerts by saying she wrote it in Hawaii, when she expected a paradise and looking out her hotel window, all she saw was a parking lot! She said this song was inspired musically by Chuck Berry, and you can certainly hear that in the intro and the rock n' roll riffs in the song. Besides, anyone who says they WEREN'T inspired by Chuck Berry is a big fat liar... The song has been covered by a number of artists throughout the world, the ones I'm aware of: Alexander , Monty Azevedo, Julie de Beazley, Del Big Country Brennan, Maire Buckingham, Lindsey & Mick Fleetwood Denjean, Claude Dogtrax, Dylan, Bob Eddie From Ohio Elmerhassel Faith, Percy Feddy, Jason, Gabor, BB Grant, Amy Grant, Lorna Grean, Lorin Green Day Haime, Vera Hollywood Session Singers Hyman , Dick J.R. & Sharon Kentucky Express Lilac Time Loach, Vickie-Maree Loaded Boxers Martini, Mia McLachlan, Sarah & Lilith Fair Modern Folk Quartet Negative Space Pinhead Gunpowder Scott, Lorraine Sir Douglas Quartet Sugar Beats Tar Heel Voices Taxi Gang The Albion Band The Neighborhood, The Take Toxic Audio Voce Warnock, James When The Cat's Away White on Black Yello Strom Lyrically, the song provided us with a proverb that has now become a part of the vernacular..."You don't know what you got 'til it's gone"...yet another example of Joni making what appears to be a simple statement but is actually very profound and prophetic. They paved paradise And put up a parking lot With a pink hotel, a boutique And a swinging hot spot Don't it always seem to go That you don't know what you've got Till it's gone They paved paradise And put up a parking lot They took all the trees Put 'em in a tree museum And they charged the people A dollar and a half just to see 'em Don't it always seem to go That you don't know what you've got Till it's gone They paved paradise And put up a parking lot Hey farmer farmer Put away that DDT now Give me spots on my apples But leave me the birds and the bees Please! Don't it always seem to go That you don't know what you've got Till it's gone They paved paradise And put up a parking lot Late last night I heard the screen door slam And a big yellow taxi Took away my old man Don't it always seem to go That you don't know what you've got Till it's gone They paved paradise And put up a parking lot They paved paradise And put up a parking lot The song appears at first to be an ecological plea, and it certainly works in that context. Joni, having grown up in a rural agricultural community, laments the destruction of nature for commerce, warning us that once we pave over paradise, there's no turning back. Meanwhile, she loses a lover, who calls a cab and heads on his way, and once again Joni says "You don't know what you got 'til it's gone", but THIS time she's describing her loss of love. This is one of her strengths, her use of lyrics to express a dual theme, and it almost foreshadows the thought she expresses in Hejira's "Song For Sharon"... Dora says "Have children" Mama and Betsy say "Find yourself a charity Help the needy and the crippled or put some time into Ecology" Well there's a wide wide world of noble causes And lovely landscapes to discover But all I really want right now Is find another lover Hope that helps! :~D Bob NP: Carla Helmbrecht, "Mood Indigo" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 08:05:38 -0400 From: "Christopher J. Treacy" Subject: Testing..and then some (sjc) This is really odd - I'm receiving very little mail. Like REALLY little - only 5 messages on the overnight, which usually yields 20 or 30. Am I on the right list???? I'll take this opportunity to address the unfortunate pop tune "Joni Mitchell on the Radio" by Espen Lind. I was tooling around on Napster and came across the title, so I figured what the heck, it's free! (for now, anyway), so I downloaded it. A very whiny angsty male voice told me a story of someone who is tormented by the memory of a lover-no-more, the chorus ending with "I'm sleeping with the lights on low, and Joni Mitchell on the radio." HHHHHmmmmmmm. I guess the first question should be, what song are they playing, Mr. Lind? It is not my recollection that emotional bleeders like "All I Want" got much airplay...what station are you listening to? Maybe we're all missing out; perhaps he's on sonicnet. :~) Odd. Anyone else heard this ditty in their travels? - -Chris NP: Old 97's on W.E.R.S. Coffeehouse PS. I saw Eliza Carthy last night at Boston's Paradise Club; a local guy named Kevin So opened up. Both performances were brilliant, but the show was sadly underattended. Any Eliza fans out there? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 09:38:59 -0400 From: "Victor Johnson" Subject: Church of Joni Yesterday morning I heard the doorbell ring and it was two women handing out the standard religious literature about how evil the world is, how we all have to be saved, how I'm going to go to hell since I'm not "enlightened". They asked me if I'm religous with that tone of voice that implies they have all the answers and I'm a heathen. So next time, I decided I really am going to say that I'm a Joni Witness and go to the Church of Joni and hopefully I will freak them out enough so they won't know what to make of me and they will just leave. What if we walked door to door, handing people copies of Hejira, telling them how awful the music in the world is and that they won't really be enlightened till they listen to Joni Mitchell. It would seem like a really odd thing to do. I discovered Joni Mitchell on my own without any instructional materials, and developed my own thoughts about her. Most things are better discovered this way. Victor Victor Johnson http://www.cdbaby.com/victorjohnson "Just beyond the morning falls the river of your dreams, Escaping from the day these wild creatures run away." Victor Johnson ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 09:53:09 EDT From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: Re: Question??..... Liz writes: << Hey there I am a music student, currently writing a song analysis of Joni Mitchell's "Big Yellow Taxi" What i am seeking out is any information at all, that anybody might have on the song. I am particulary concerned with the lyrics & meaning, the lyrics & music relationship, the use of instruments, her folk/jazz style or anything else that might be interesting to add.>> Hi Liz: Funny you should ask. I've been reading a book called _Angels of the Night: Popular Female Singers of Our Time_, by Wilfrid Mellars (Oxford Press, 1986). The author is a noted musicologist, who has also done books on the music of the Beatles and Dylan. He was one of the first in the field to research popular music. Perhaps you've read it... Chapter 8 is an analysis of Joni's musical body of work up to that time, titled "White Seagull, Black Highwaywoman, Red Squaw: Joni Mitchell" (pages 141-168). I found it informative to some extent. In case you missed it, the following is what the author had to say re: "Big Yellow Taxi" (p. 151). Just for fun, I've added footnotes, with definitions below, for a few of the more obscure musicology terms: "The disc [LOTC, 1970] includes one number, 'Big Yellow Taxi,' that transmutes a folky idiom - the refrain is a primitive tumbling strain* [see footnote 1] - into city rockabilly, with agressive percussion and electric guitars. These are prompted by the theme, for this is an anti-city song about turning paradise into parking lots and putting trees in museums. Yet lyricism* [2] survives, and hints at an evolution for Joni's songs as she enters the seventies. Up to this point any Black tinge from the blues has been precipitated from White folk sources; from here onwards the impact of the urban blues, modifying the country heritage is direct. The melodies tend to be more chromatically [3] coloured, the harmonies tougher, the rythyms more nervous. Strumming, a technique seldom previously encountered in her work, now creates a continuum of sound to encourage twitching feet; while the *dis*-continuity of the line promotes fluidity, loosening the bonds by increased syncopation and more flexible alternations of duple and triple metres. Lyrical arabesques* [3] roam more widely, though jazz freedom is counteracted by the tighter rythyms Joni had picked up from rock and roll. This tension between freedom and discipline cannot - as Joni's later career demonstrates - have been easy to sustain. Both passion and pain are manifest in what Joni does with her voice, which now moves over a range of one and a half octaves, the timbre varying fr! om that of Whitest folk to Black est blues singer, with hints of other ethnic cultures thrown in for good measure." ___________ * [1] tumbling strain - a phrase invented by ethnomusicologist Curt Sachs to describe a frequent procedure in primitive musics whereby a vocal phrase starts at a high, strained pitch then tumbles wildly downwards with an effect of uncontrolled libido. * [2] lyricism - 1: personal direct intense style or quality in an art (as poetry or music) 2: exuberance of style or feeling * [3] chromatic - characterized by frequent use of nonharmonic tones or of harmonies based on nonharmonic tones. * [4] arabesque - a contrived intricate pattern of verbal expression <"arabesques of alliteration" - C.E. Montague> - -Julius ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 10:57:21 -0400 From: jclarknyc@netscape.net (Jeff Clark) Subject: Re: Luka covers Joni <> It is good to see Luka's name out and about on this list--he is absolutely my favorite guitar player after Joni and is a highly poetic songwriter and a very passionate singer and performer. He often mentions Joni in interviews and cites her as one of his primary influences (like we haven't heard *that* a million times!). On an earlier album he recorded a song called "To Begin to" which is a tribute to Joni, specifically an account of his first hearing her Blue album. This is something every Joni fan should hear. Jeff NP: Traffic-"Many a Mile to Freedom" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 14:27:41 EDT From: Gertus@aol.com Subject: Re: Luka covers Joni In a message dated 02/04/01 08:25:52 GMT Daylight Time, les@jmdl.com writes: Paul wrote about Luka Bloom:- > > > The other day, browsing in a record store, I noticed that > Luka Bloom (Irish singer - brother of Christy Moore) had > recorded a version of 'Urge for Going' on his new album > 'Keeper of The Flame'. > > In addition to Joni, he also covers The Cures' 'In Between > Days', Abba's 'Dancing Queen' and Radiohead's 'No Surprises', > amongst others. On his website I found this in a recent interview > with a German newspaper - > > "For me there is a connection between the songwriting of > Thom Yorkes and Joni Mitchell. Both of them express their > feelings. They just do it in a different way." > I've been listening to Radiohead a lot recently and, although I would never have thought of comparing there music to Joni's, in a way, I know what Luka means. The music is certainly compelling listening and I always think of it as orchestral, which, I know is the way Joni thinks of lots of her material. Not sure you can compare the two lyrically though. Jacky ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 14:37:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: My MTV Life (SJC) - --- MDESTE1@aol.com wrote: > > But in a close third place is the guy who invented > the CD player. Especially > the CAR CD player. .... >Maybe you have the same experience with > your car as I do. Sometimes a person wants to be alone. My mother used to lock herself in the bathroom with a coffee, her cigarettes and a crossword puzzle and she wouldn't come out for at least an hour. The lock on our bathroom door doesn't work very well, so if I try to lock myself in to get some peace and quiet, invariably one of the kids pushes hard enough to open the door. It seems Mum isn't allowed any QUIET TIME. As a result, I sometimes go for drives JUST so I can listen to the music that I like and not hear anyone's voice nagging me for this or that, or complaining that brother or sister is bugging them. At times like that, I won't allow the kids to come with me because, in addition to clamoring for STUFF and fighting with each other, they're going to make snide comments about the weird music I listen to, and will want to play their popstars-type CDs or listen to CISS-FM (which is Toronto's "popstars-type" radio station, featuring a lot of NSync, Brittney Spears and more than the necessary quota of drum-synth loops, which gets my nervous system all twitchy and makes me want to kill someone, but I digress). I have also been known to sing in the car (but never when I have any passengers with me!) It must look really weird to other drivers, but I don't care. Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 19:50:54 +0100 From: catman Subject: Re: My MTV Life (SJC) > It must look > really weird to other drivers, but I don't care. i sing too and really get into it. I wa caught in an m'way jam and was singing away. i happened to look to my right and there was a trucker smiling at me. He wasn't being mean-he obviously enjoyed seeing me having fun! > > Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca - -- bw colin colin@tantra.fsbusiness.co.uk http://www.geocities.com/tantra_apso/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 01:43:34 -0700 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: [fionaapplelist] Why No One Answers... Those who complain about rudeness on jmdl might be amused by this typical exchange from the Fiona Apple list..... wilfredo rodriguez wrote: > YOU ALL CAN GO TO YOUR MOMMYS ASSHOLE > I DIDNT KNEW THIS CLUB WAS LIKE HELL > > > > >FUCK YOU ALL > >YOUS ALL CAN GO AND FUCK YOURSELVES > >CUNTSPANKS > > > >WE ALL DONT WONT TO KNOW ALL YOUR SHIT ABOUT YOUR DUMB > >FUCKIN LIVES !!!! > > > >KISS MY ASS BITCH :) > > > >KISS KISS KISS > >--- John Kaminski wrote: > >No one replies because you are annoying as shit and > >should stick to 3rd
> >grade...
> >
> >>From: haylie clarke > >>hi all how come yous arnt writting to me ???
> >>
> >>kitty :)
> >>
------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 17:28:40 EDT From: BachelorNumero2@aol.com Subject: For the Roses Hi fellow Joni fans, Well, all this talk about "For the Roses" made me want to put my two cents in.......... "FTR" is one of Joni's strangest and least accessible albums (in my opinion)..........possibly because it bridges the gap between two completely different albums, "Blue, C&S".........After starting off with "Blue" and "C&S", I jumped radically to "Hissing" and found it surprisingly accessible..........Then I quickly bought the rest of her 70's catalog.............and out of all the albums, "FTR" and "Don Juan" were the two that took the longest to grow on me......."Cold Blue Steel" was one of the few tracks that stood out, and it took quite awhile for me to anjoy the album...........Now I love it................I was just surprised that an album from her "folk" period took so long for me to get into................ :) PHIL ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 18:19:03 -0400 From: Heather Subject: Re: [fionaapplelist] Why No One Answers... i'm sorry .... but this did crack me up! LOL! cuntspanks?! that's a new term that i wasn't aware of. :-D heather ps - my dad could be quite quippy at times. if someone told him to kiss their ass he would say ..." mark off a spot 'cause you're allllll ass"! At 01:43 AM 4/2/01 -0700, Randy Remote wrote: >Those who complain about rudeness on jmdl might be amused >by this typical exchange from the Fiona Apple list..... > >wilfredo rodriguez wrote: > > > YOU ALL CAN GO TO YOUR MOMMYS ASSHOLE > > I DIDNT KNEW THIS CLUB WAS LIKE HELL > > > > > > > >FUCK YOU ALL > > >YOUS ALL CAN GO AND FUCK YOURSELVES > > >CUNTSPANKS > > > > > >WE ALL DONT WONT TO KNOW ALL YOUR SHIT ABOUT YOUR DUMB > > >FUCKIN LIVES !!!! > > > > > >KISS MY ASS BITCH :) > > > > > >KISS KISS KISS > > >--- John Kaminski wrote: > > >No one replies because you are annoying as shit and > > >should stick to 3rd
> > >grade...
> > >
> > >>From: haylie clarke > > >>hi all how come yous arnt writting to me ???
> > >>
> > >>kitty :)
> > >>
------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 23:26:51 +0100 From: catman Subject: Re: [fionaapplelist] Why No One Answers... One, who is Fiona Apple? 2. did these people not go to skool? They can't even spell bad words! Randy Remote wrote: > Those who complain about rudeness on jmdl might be amused > by this typical exchange from the Fiona Apple list..... > > wilfredo rodriguez wrote: > > > YOU ALL CAN GO TO YOUR MOMMYS ASSHOLE > > I DIDNT KNEW THIS CLUB WAS LIKE HELL > > > > > > > >FUCK YOU ALL > > >YOUS ALL CAN GO AND FUCK YOURSELVES > > >CUNTSPANKS > > > > > >WE ALL DONT WONT TO KNOW ALL YOUR SHIT ABOUT YOUR DUMB > > >FUCKIN LIVES !!!! > > > > > >KISS MY ASS BITCH :) > > > > > >KISS KISS KISS > > >--- John Kaminski wrote: > > >No one replies because you are annoying as shit and > > >should stick to 3rd
> > >grade...
> > >
> > >>From: haylie clarke > > >>hi all how come yous arnt writting to me ???
> > >>
> > >>kitty :)
> > >>
- -- bw colin colin@tantra.fsbusiness.co.uk http://www.geocities.com/tantra_apso/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 15:36:16 -0700 From: Lindsay Moon Subject: Liz's BYT Question Bob Muller responded: Now, Bob, you weren't supposed to write her whole paper for her!! Just because you have a PhD in Joni, no need to show off!! ; ) Lindsay ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 17:06:10 -0800 From: "BRIAN SYMES" Subject: My CD Addictions Last week i descended down into the valley Intel made. Amelia just 28 months knows the sign on the big box and Sings "Target,toys ballons shoes".I make it over to their Music area and pick out Shawn Colvin's new CD but then I find Emmy Lou's Red Dirt Girl, After much thought I voted Shawn off my island Emmy lou is much closer to my generation. I have Listened to RDG now a handfull of times I still like the Energy of Spyboy. Friday I stopped by Music Mellennium with Amelia on Burnside Blvd in Portland,The Mitchell section is right out front "How convient" and bought WTRF. As soon as i sliped the CD in my coat pocket she ran off fast into the heart of the store. I found her in front of the L section with David Lahm staring at me, Saying "Brian if you don't buy this CD you won't find perfect bliss listening to me play FTR on my piano today." Hey David the Whole CD is Blissfully Fantastic. Brian - ----------------------- Free Email Service provided to you by Office.com, a service from Winstar ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 20:12:04 EDT From: Riveragelsinger@aol.com Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #105 I am a newcomer-second-time-around. I was on the list for a short time in 2000, but with a very busy schedule, I dropped off the list, as my wife kept asking why I was still getting the digest if I wasn't even reading it. I'm still just as busy, and will probably drop off again and return another day, as I have to leave the country for work, and don't have time to check or even delete unread mail for several days at a time. I always answer work and family messages...but let JMDL go quite often. As to why JM kept the name Mitchell, the only insight I can offer dovetails what Hell (nice handle) wrote. She married in the mid-60's, was not a feminist, was an independent artist with a following of her own, the artistic people she admired and followed and who followed her career knew her as JM. Those who knew her family knew her actual names. Lastly, the name Joni Mitchell has broad assonance, and a percussive sound that goes well with the percussive sounds of English, rock 'n' roll and jazz. Only she knows why she kept the name...maybe she really liked the guy, and kept his name...just because...I know many divorcees who keep all their last names. As I reread the last paragraph, my juvenile mind is ready to giggle over her "broad assonance." I also sometimes wonder whether the title "urge for going" has new significance for JM and her fans, as we creep up in years...pass the Metamucil, please. Call me "anything-but-late-for-dinner" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 20:32:13 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Liz's BYT Question << Now, Bob, you weren't supposed to write her whole paper for her!! >> But it's been so long since I wrote a paper, I wanted to make sure I could still do it! Besides, when someone asks about Joni, I just can't help it! :~) Bob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 22:19:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Church of Joni - --- Victor Johnson wrote: > Yesterday morning I heard the doorbell ring and it > was two women handing out > the standard religious literature ...>So next time, I > decided I really am > going to say that I'm a Joni Witness and go to the > Church of Joni and > hopefully I will freak them out enough so they won't > know what to make of me > and they will just leave. > > What if we walked door to door, handing people > copies of Hejira, telling > them how awful the music in the world is and that > they won't really be > enlightened till they listen to Joni Mitchell. It > would seem like a really > odd thing to do. I discovered Joni Mitchell on my > own without any > instructional materials, and developed my own > thoughts about her. Most > things are better discovered this way. > > Amen, brother Victor! Funny you should mention this - the thought has occurred to me as well that there could and possibly should be a Church of Joni Mitchell. Blasphemy, maybe, but it works for me. Isn't it incredible how everybody claims to know all about the *true* faith and they want to share it with you - whether you like it or not. A friend of mine used to claim she worshipped at the Church of Tim Horton - this is a chain of donut shops in Canada (named for the late hockey player, who was one of the original owners.) Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 23:13:59 EDT From: Rusty10113@aol.com Subject: Re: For The Roses Im new to the list, and dont know the story here, but I really can't believe something like this, a tribute to Joni's music and impact on the lives of all of us, can lead to hurt feelings and withdrawl from the list... call me neive, but from an new person's perseptive, this seems rather unreal..what on earth happened? I just get a kick out of hearing about the latest joni news, gossip, favorites songs, etc., and then I get on with life... just a suggestion, I'm glad this list is here.. M ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 23:11:34 -0700 From: "BRIAN SYMES" Subject: Church of Mitchell/Joni's Bar and Grill The castle in Detroit would be the perfect spot for the Church de Mitchelle with Reverend Vince giving Sermons and taking Confessions, Sing "Songs to Aging Chidren Come " in the Shower my son. But I really think a popular place to hang out would be Joni's Bar and Grill, The Menu Would have Catus tree Omelets,Both Sides Now Pancakes, Rainy night House Soup, Little Green Salad, You turn me On Burrito's, Twisted Hash Browns, Black Crow Au Vin, Sweet and Sour Bird,Good Bye Pork Pie, Chinese Cafe Dim Sum and we could have Sweet Suckers for the kids. Good night Dreamers NP Jimmy Smith The Sermon - ----------------------- Free Email Service provided to you by Office.com, a service from Winstar ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #106 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?