From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #104 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Saturday, March 31 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 104 The 'Official' Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. Information on the 4th "Annual" New England JoniFest: http://www.jmdl.com/jfne2001.cfm The Joni Chat Room: http://www.jmdl.com/chat.cfm ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- [none] [Gordon Mackie ] Fwd: Musical instrument strumpet-style [Kammass@aol.com] tori does joni again [christopher blake ] goodbye blue sky [christopher blake ] Understatement of the day [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: tori does joni again [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Happy Birthday ["Mark or Travis" ] Re: Musical instrument strumpet-style [Catherine McKay ] Re: Bette [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: JMDL Digest V2001 #154 [RPWieloh@cs.com] listening to Joni ["Garret" ] Re: Bette ["Garret" ] Borders Crossing magazine ["Deb Messling" ] Paz- ["Jack Neilson" ] RE: tori does joni again ["patrick leader" ] Re: tori does joni again [TerryM2222@aol.com] Re: Bette ["Mark or Travis" ] Re: Happy Birthday to Evian and Paz!!! [Scott and Jody Subject: [none] John van Tiel wrote After a great bassoon solo piece I remarked to one of my friends: "Isn't that a great baboon player?" It took me weeks to be taken seriously again ... Well no doubt you'll like the aria form Gianni Schicchi 'Oh Mio Baboono caro' Sorry..it's an old one but it still makes me laugh Gordon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 08:13:01 EST From: Kammass@aol.com Subject: Fwd: Musical instrument strumpet-style In a message dated 3/29/2001 6:21:01 PM Central Standard Time, wallykai@fibertel.com.ar writes: > After a great bassoon solo > piece I remarked to one of my friends: "Isn't that a great baboon player?" > It took me weeks to be taken seriously again ... > My husband is Arabic and we laugh about these things all the time!!! My favorite here lately... I told him to quit being so nice when phone solicitors call. I told him you don't have to talk for 15mins, just tell them you're not interested and thank you, good-bye. Well, the next week or so a solicitor called and Assem(my husband) answers. After a couple of minutes I hear him say, "Thank you, but I'm not interesting." I'm still laughing, and so is he. Kammy NP-cartoons Return-Path: Received: from rly-zc02.mx.aol.com (rly-zc02.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.2]) by air-zc03.mail.aol.com (v77_r1.36) with ESMTP; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 19:21:01 -0500 Received: from smoe.org (jane.smoe.org [209.58.179.86]) by rly-zc02.mx.aol.com (v77_r1.36) with ESMTP; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 19:20:41 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) with SMTP id SAA13630; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:48:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by smoe.org (bulk_mailer v1.10); Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:48:42 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) id SAA13548 for joni-outgoing; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:47:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from califia.sub-rosa.com (qmailr@califia.sub-rosa.com [64.0.106.44]) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/daemon-mode-jane) with SMTP id SAA13355 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:46:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 5637 invoked from network); 29 Mar 2001 16:13:12 -0000 Received: from mta4.fibertel.com.ar (HELO mail.fibertel.com.ar) (24.232.0.164) by califia.sub-rosa.com with SMTP; 29 Mar 2001 16:13:12 -0000 Received: from x (24.232.41.229) by mail.fibertel.com.ar (5.1.056) id 3ABFD7640006618F; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 13:03:45 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" To: "John van Tiel" , Subject: RE: Musical instrument strumpet-style Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 13:04:12 -0300 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <00e301c0b84e$d4997300$1d9679c3@computer> X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 0.97c X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-joni@jmdl.com Reply-To: "Wally Kairuz" Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Precedence: bulk oh john!!!! it's incredible how we spend our whole lives studying languages and these things still happen to us!!!! wallyK, np: some baboon music -----Mensaje original----- De: John van Tiel [mailto:john.van.tiel@wxs.nl] Enviado el: Jueves, 29 de Marzo de 2001 09:49 a.m. Para: joni@smoe.org CC: Wally Kairuz Asunto: Musical instrument strumpet-style Yes Wally, English as second language can be tricky. During my student days in Durham (UK) -- Yes, Arthur B, I was there at the same time as you were -- I once went to watch a classical wind music ensemble. After a great bassoon solo piece I remarked to one of my friends: "Isn't that a great baboon player?" It took me weeks to be taken seriously again ... John ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 05:44:50 -0800 (PST) From: christopher blake Subject: tori does joni again good morning jmdler'S. (not here in ct - it is a dark and stormy day...) being an avid guitarist, i stumbled upon www.guitarnoise.com - i clicked upon links -> tab and went from artist to artist. when i clicked on tori amos' four star site (the joni site gets five!), i chose 'live covers' and lo and behold, the site lists two joni covers: "a case of you" (already in the 'undercover' listings) and "both sides now"(which i did not see posted, and is not currently being hunted down via: "we're looking for"). does anybody know more about this version? i have sent a request for info to the webmaster of the site. speaking of covers: bob - the queen is in the bag. have an awesome day all - christopher. NPIMH - both sides now (i wonder how that got there?) Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/?.refer=text ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 05:50:46 -0800 (PST) From: christopher blake Subject: goodbye blue sky sorry do be a bother... this just popped in my head, and since i am a newbie i don't know if the veterans here have already discussed this: joni doing "goodbye blue sky" from the berlin wall concert. what is the concensus on this song? i thought she did a remarkable job, though the wall concert as a whole was sorta blah. admittedly, i am not that big a roger waters fan. enough of my mad ramblings for now... _christopher. Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/?.refer=text ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 08:50:06 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Understatement of the day Since yesterday was an "off" day for Joni mail, I took advantage of the break to peruse some of the articles that Les has on the database. Many thanks to you, Les, and to all you transcribers out there!! Anyway, I had to smile broadly when I came upon this phrase: "Recommended recordings: Fans will argue endlessly over whether Mitchell's best work is the spare early recordings (best typified by 1971's classic "Blue"), her pop albums (such as 1974's "Court and Spark") or her jazzier forays (including 1976's "Hejira" and 1979' s "Mingus"). " Yes we will, won't we? (At least I HOPE we will) And of course, like almost all reviewers of her work (this was an article from 2000), they have her career ending in 1979! :~( Bob NP: Herbie Hancock, "Concerto For Piano and Orchestra in G, 2nd Movement" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 08:57:58 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: tori does joni again <> Good job, Christopher...I can always use more Hunters & Gatherers! As for Tori, her devotion to Joni is well documented. Her sublime take on Case of You (the studio version) was snagged volumes ago. I would be happy to include a GOOD QUALITY live version on a future volume. So far, I've heard about 4 different live takes on ACOY, but none made it through QC! :~) As for BSN, I think I've heard her play a smidge of it as an intro to another song, "Pretty Good Year" maybe...anyway, I would welcome you Tori fans to chase these down if you're so inclined! <> Well, this statement can certainly be taken a number of ways in this group, but I know what you're saying, and thanks again, buddy! And Baseball cranks up this weekend...Let's Go Mets! ;~) Bob ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 06:44:58 -0800 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Happy Birthday Paz, have an outrageously fan-fucking-tastic birthday, dude! Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 11:19:06 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Musical instrument strumpet-style - --- John van Tiel wrote: > Yes Wally, > > English as second language can be tricky. Anything as a second language can be tricky - all that idiomatic logic that goes on in your brain. Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 11:28:04 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: the guys who cleared the floor - --- shane mattison wrote: > - an old friend, we'll > call him 'grier', and i have shared some joni > prairie > times...grier is older than me, but we're both > divorced > guys...so grier and i have gone off on joni prairie > trips... Great story, Shane - ever considered writing a book? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 12:33:04 EST From: Jodcrazee@aol.com Subject: Thank You I recently learned through this list about the 'Jazz Takes on Joni Mitchell'. I ordered both of them and am currently listening to them. I would have never known about these gems were it not for you. Also, I probably overlooked it but I did not see Joni's Farm Aid performance. I have that if anyone is interested. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 22:20:34 +0100 From: "Garret" Subject: Bette I was just watching Bette, Bette Midler's sitcom, and she decided that she needed a a scandal, from which she could return with a comeback. well, as she's driving home from the hospital she starts singing Twisted!!! i know that Bob had gotten a version of Bette doing this from a video. i guess that was a live version, but here, in the show, is a recorded version!! she realy did it justice, managed to keep both the pace and humour. someone commented recently that this show was cancelled in the states already, and said that it wasn't funny. but to be honest it's the funniest show i've seen in ages!!! it's been on for about two months here, and i really look forward to watching it on friday nights! jsut ask Chris Marshall!!!!! GARRET NP- Down to You ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 16:27:56 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Bette <> Garrett, the video tune we have is "For Free". The "Twisted" version we have is from her CD, so it's a studio version... And I haven't forgotten about your much-desired live Buckley version of "People's Parties"...that'll be on Volume 16, which I hope to finish out this weekend. Bob NP: Juliana Hatfield, "You Blues" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 16:47:39 EST From: RPWieloh@cs.com Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2001 #154 Responding to ....luvart.....I get the same reaction from some folks and sometimes feel as if I am the only one doing what I am doing, regarding the list. But recently my daughter mentioned that she also feels as I do about certain things.So,buck-up mate we are not alone just different and better for regards ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 00:50:19 +0100 From: "Garret" Subject: listening to Joni After Bette had ended tonight, i just got the urge to listen to Joni. now, that's an urge i'm sure so many of you guys are used to, i get it all the time. the usual problem is that i just don't have the appropriate amount of time. that is a major problem at times actually. i never get the chance to listen to albums anymore. and i'm sure many others find this same problem. i mean to *really* listen to them- pay attention and take it all in, almost "active" listening, if you will. most of my listening occurs while travelling to and from college or work. listening to Blonde in the Bleachers over a backdrop of the din of traffic, and the ever so *noiseless* engines of dublin buses, is not exactly ideal but it will have to suffice. after having posed the "joni's Jazz" question, and having heard Twisted on Bette, i guess i was thinking about listening to the more jazzy joni albums. so, i listened to Mingus. in all honesty, that isn't a very common occurence for me, and i *still* don't like wolf that lives in lyndsey AT ALL. i listened to the whole S&L album , and i texted Chris Marshall since S&L always reminds me of my friend in Cambridge. as i wrote a message to him, i realised that i had just listened to two whole albums(this may seem obvious, but that wasn't how i was thinking). i had sat there with my cup of tea and slice of toast (ok, so it was a few cups of tea) and listened "actively" to these albums. i hadn't listened to shadows and light in quite a while, and it is far better than i remember!! i was chair-dancing along for half the album:-) i should make the time more often. now, if i *make* the time to start studying, it'll all be okay! my point to you is that you should take one hour and listen to an album. actually listen to it. an album, any album- Joni or not. it'll be worth it. GARRET ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 00:55:25 +0100 From: "Garret" Subject: Re: Bette I should pay more attention, eh Bob?:-) and *now* i'm very curious to hear her take on For Free!!! *and* you've already answered my next question,lol. >And I haven't forgotten about your much-desired live Buckley version of >"People's Parties"...that'll be on Volume 16, which I hope to finish out this >weekend. > GARRET ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 19:11:26 -0500 From: "Deb Messling" Subject: Borders Crossing magazine We'll probably be seeing the Borders Crossing magazine article on the JDML site soon. I got mine yesterday, many thanks to Mags and Brian! It's an excellent, substantive interview. One gossipy snippet: she says it was Shawn Phillips who piqued her interest in writing songs. Has anyone heard this before? She also says she and Larry divorced because "he started hanging around in my sessions!!" She also shares my negative opinion of the Beat writers. Says "I didn't like to see the underbelly revered...I"m not a book burner, but I longed for something more wholesome." - ----------------------------------- Deb Messling "I like cats. They give the home a heartbeat." ~Joni Mitchell - ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 18:35:31 -0800 From: "Jack Neilson" Subject: Paz- I'M SECOND!!!!Happy Birthday Meeeessster Paz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Happy 24th!!!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 19:58:35 -0500 From: "patrick leader" Subject: RE: tori does joni again i have a 2-cd live set from 94 called back to basics, and on it tori covers 'a case of you' (i think bob has a studio version). she also covers 'home on the range' (which is also on a single somewhere, smells like teen spirit (ditto) and 'famous blue raincoat' (leonard cohen, and it's sweet) bill wither's 'aint no sunshine' and lennon's 'imagine'. it's a great collection. patrick np - alison moyet - singles >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]On Behalf Of >christopher blake >Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 8:45 AM >To: joni chat >Cc: scjoniguy@aol.com >Subject: tori does joni again > > >good morning jmdler'S. (not here in ct - it is a dark >and stormy day...) >being an avid guitarist, i stumbled upon >www.guitarnoise.com - i clicked upon links -> tab and >went from artist to artist. when i clicked on tori >amos' four star site (the joni site gets five!), i >chose 'live covers' and lo and behold, the site lists >two joni covers: "a case of you" (already in the >'undercover' listings) and "both sides now"(which i >did not see posted, and is not currently being hunted >down via: "we're looking for"). does anybody know more >about this version? i have sent a request for info to >the webmaster of the site. speaking of covers: bob - >the queen is in the bag. >have an awesome day all - >christopher. > >NPIMH - both sides now (i wonder how that got there?) >Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. >http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/?.refer=text ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 20:54:26 EST From: TerryM2222@aol.com Subject: Re: tori does joni again Hey guitar players- Joni is represented here. Will have to check to see how they compare with our tab pros here in JMDL-land. Terry << i stumbled upon www.guitarnoise.com - i clicked upon links -> tab and went from artist to artist. when i clicked on tori amos' four star site (the >> www.addconsults.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 18:29:13 -0800 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: Bette > I was just watching Bette, Bette Midler's sitcom, and she decided that she > needed a a scandal, from which she could return with a comeback. well, as > she's driving home from the hospital she starts singing Twisted!!! i know > that Bob had gotten a version of Bette doing this from a video. i guess > that was a live version, but here, in the show, is a recorded version!! Someone has probably already told you this but Bette recorded 'Twisted' on her second eponymous album. Her take on it is campier & more frenetic than Joni's but I love it. I think both versions are valid interpretations of the song. If you listen to Annie Ross sing the original you can hear the departure points for both Joni & Bette's versions, imo. Mark in Seattle (Did you hear that? Honey, that chick is bananas, do you hear me? bananas! Oh waiter! Bring me another banana daiquiri, would ya? Oh no, here she comes again!) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 22:28:58 -0600 From: Scott and Jody Subject: Re: Happy Birthday to Evian and Paz!!! Happy Birthday You Two! Evian, I've never met you in person, but I hope to someday. I love reading your posts. I'm usually 1000posts behind but I always read yours. You March guys have a great sense of humor!!!! Happy belated Birthday! Paz, I Just want to say, I've met you and the one thing that sticks out in my mind is your laugh!!! I LOVE your laugh!!! It is so genuine and so sweet. When I play New England Jonifest CDs your laugh is intertwined. I also love the music :~) Have a Great Birthday Michael! Cheers, jody ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #104 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?