From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #87 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Saturday, March 17 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 087 The 'Official' Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. Information on the 4th "Annual" New England JoniFest: http://www.jmdl.com/jfne2001.cfm The Joni Chat Room: http://www.jmdl.com/chat.cfm ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Mural of Joni ["Kakki" ] Re: delete [catman ] Re: delete [FMYFL@aol.com] Re: delete (md) [MDESTE1@aol.com] Re: how's it done? [AsharaJM@aol.com] Hissing Demos ["Gerald" ] RE: Joni Piano Music ["Chris Marshall" ] Re: "throbbing light machine" [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Hissing Demos [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: "throbbing light machine" [Jerry Notaro ] Re: "throbbing light machine" (md) [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Thumbnail reviews of Joni's albums...and some questions [Jason Malone] Re: "throbbing light machine" [Artheobeat@aol.com] This Just In!!! ["Victor Johnson" ] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #86 ["Craig" ] Joni, Dylan, Van Morrison - well, nearly! [Fonimitchell@aol.com] Re Joni tribute album ljc ["joe farrell" ] The Throbbing Light Machine [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] RE: delete ["Wally Kairuz" ] lookin for a book [RPWieloh@cs.com] Re: Re Joni tribute album ljc [RoseMJoy@aol.com] hear your own audio inside an abandoned grain silo in montreal [jan gyn <] Re: This Just In!!! ["Kakki" ] RE: Important!!! Please read! ["Wally Kairuz" ] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #86 ["Kakki" ] Joni Dream ["BRIAN SYMES" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 01:24:10 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Mural of Joni Oh my Gawd Barbara! Mike's Munchies - that's where my friends and I went out on "special occasions" when we were starving poor in our 20s! I lived in Seal Beach - on10th Street - from '76 - '79. I had to moonlight back then painting dolls' heads at night just to afford gasoline and Joni albums ;-) Where did they re-open - in Marina Pacifica? Kakki > In my 20's I spent a lot of time with good friends listening to Joni. > We used to frequent a sandwich shop in Long Beach called "Mike's > Munchies." It first opened in the very early '70's on Long Beach > Boulevard. You had to be hip to know what the "Munchies" part of the > name meant. I was saddened by its closure as it was in my favorite "pan > handling" area and they served great soup. > > I was hitching a ride with friends one day and a driver picked us up and > asked if we would like to go to lunch. He took us to Mike's Munchies, lo and behold > there was a bigger than life sized mural of Joni on the wall. Mike's > had reopened in a very exclusive shopping area near Hwy. 101 between the > Naples area and Seal Beach. They played Joni quite often. Anyone else > know of it? I would love to hear of it. > > Love & Peace, Barbara Hirahara ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:11:58 +0000 From: catman Subject: Re: delete How charming. Sarah Thomas wrote: > Joni Chatroom: http://www.jmdl.com/chat.cfm > NE JoniFest 2001: http://www.jmdl.com/jfne2001.cfm > > i wanna gt off this fucking thing > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. - -- bw colin colin@tantra.fsbusiness.co.uk http://www.geocities.com/tantra_apso/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 05:24:02 EST From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: delete Sweet little Sarah wrote: << i wanna gt off this fucking thing >> Sarah, in the future when referring to battery operated appliances or small farm animals, please don't forget to use the NJC tag. ......and be a do bee, not a don't bee :~) Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 07:43:09 EST From: MDESTE1@aol.com Subject: Re: delete (md) Can we get Sarah and IVPaul together somehow. Maybe Celine Dion could sing a duet with Michael Bolton at their wedding. marcel ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 08:19:09 EST From: AsharaJM@aol.com Subject: Re: how's it done? Rich wrote: > Hi All, I'd like to try the chat room, I've done all the registration > stuff,loged in, now how do I actually get to the elusive chat room? From > what > I have seen posted in the Digest other folks have had some > problems. Rich, it sounds as if you have done everything right, but maybe when you logged in there was no one around. Keep trying at different times, and you should find someone there. Hugs, Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 07:44:55 -0600 From: "Gerald" Subject: Hissing Demos - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- "Paul Castle" Wrote: Bob, you omitted to say that I sent you that as a 'thank you' for your jaw-dropping generosity in sending me the amazing 'Hissing Demos' - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- Would anyone be able to make this available to me? How can I get a copy of the Hissing Demos? Gerald ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 13:41:19 -0000 From: "Chris Marshall" Subject: RE: Joni Piano Music Martin said:- > Does anyone know if there is any sheet music for piano available of Joni's > songs? A big Joni fan I know is stumbling along, learning piano with the > usual classical stuff, but I think she would get a big, big boost if she had > something like River, or The Last Time I Saw Richard written out in dots > infront of her. Some of the stuff in "Anthology" sounds accurate enough when played on a piano. Some of it doesn't. So if you can scare up a copy of that, it's a good start. - --Chris ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 08:58:42 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: "throbbing light machine" << Could anyone explain to me what this is?I''m dying to know...>> Boy, Relayer, that's a succint but an excellent question. I've just been thinking about this song (Songs to Aging Children Come) as well from listening to the cover on #15 from Tir Na Nog. The melody of this song seems very unusual for Joni. Maybe it's not. I'd love to hear from the musicians out there who play this song if the chordal structures are unique in any way. Speaking of ignorance, I too am baffled by the introductory lyrics. I'll post them here, and think about this today. I'd also appreciate anyone's take on this verse/this song... Through the windless wells of wonder By the throbbing light machine In a tea leaf trance or under Orders from the king and queen Bob NP: EWF, "You and I" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 09:01:56 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Hissing Demos <> Gerald, I'm happy to make copies of the Hissing Demos, the James Taylor concert, The Second Fret sets, and anything else you may be interested in. Let's talk. Bob NP: Kyle Eastwood, "Stanley Hill Dr." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 09:06:35 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: "throbbing light machine" SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: > I'd also appreciate anyone's take on this verse/this song... > > Through the windless wells of wonder > By the throbbing light machine > In a tea leaf trance or under > Orders from the king and queen I've always taken it as drug reference. And the "throbbing light machine" the strobe light effect brought on by some psychedelic drugs. Falling down a well, like Alice. "tea leaf trance" seems in line with that. And orders from the king and queen, another Alice In Wonderland reference, which was quite a popular book in the drug culture when Joni wrote this. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 09:22:21 EST From: MDESTE1@aol.com Subject: Re: Chat: how's it done? (md) One of the problems could be the fact that the Java Applets need to be "enabled" on your computer. I can get into the chatroom with my laptop but not with my new PC because the PC says that Java is not enabled. Any techie out there have some info that will enable my java. (Jimmy keep your jokes in your pants on this one please). I already tried to go through the browser properties. It seems that at sometime in the past I downloaded some software that java'd my laptop buy havent been able to do it on the PC as yet. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:36:18 EST From: LeslieMixon@aol.com Subject: The Hitcher's Story Thought I'd resend a story I sent to the list on November 26, 1998. Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 09:32:40 -0800 From: Leslie Mixon Subject: Joni meeting of long ago (LONG...) Thought I'd pass along this story for our holiday enjoyment. MEETING JONI MITCHELL - by Rick Scott Singer-songwriter Rick Scott is one of Canada's best known dulcimer players. He's developed his own unique style of playing dulcimer and has released 10 albums. Rick performs concerts for all ages around the world. "In 1971, I was hitchhiking with my wife Sue, my friend JR Stone and my dog Mousse up the Sechelt (Sunshine) Coast of British Columbia. It was tough for three hippies with a dog to catch a ride, but after about half an hour a woman driving a beat up Ford Pinto pulled over. Big and shaggy, Mousse immediately climbed into the front seat and laid his head down in the driver's lap. JR slid in next to him, Sue and I got in the back and we headed off down the road. The woman was patting Mousse's head and complimenting us on what a nice dog he was. She asked us how far we were going... about 30 kilometres to Pender Harbour. Between her question and our ability to answer, there was a group realization that the driver was Joni Mitchell. Each of us took turns trying to articulate the name of our destination, but all that came out was stammering. When we finally managed to tell her, she said she could take us almost all the way but she had to stop off at Lord Jim's Lodge to pick up a friend. She said they might go to the pub and if we were still hitchhiking when they came out they would give us a ride the rest of the way. I think we just sat there staring at Joni Mitchell stroking Mousse's head. I was fantasizing that in the next life I might be lucky enough to come back as a dog. When we got to the turnoff she pulled over and as we were getting out she noticed my instrument case and asked what it was. When I told her it was a dulcimer she said, "Way out, can I see it?" The next thing I knew she was examining my dulcimer with great interest. JR Stone is a soft spoken North Carolina mountain man of few words, so I volunteered the information that he had built my instrument. She beamed at him and examined the dulcimer even more closely. After a few minutes she asked if he would build her one. With a great deal of difficulty he finally managed to answer. "Sure." As Joni left us, she renewed her offer to take us further later and asked JR where she could find him. We told her where we would be for the weekend. We couldn't believe what had happened and didn't think we'd ever see her again. Nonetheless, we stopped hitchhiking and just stood by the road. An hour later she came back down the road with her friend in the passenger seat and stopped to pick us up. Paying no mind to the passenger, Mousse jumped onto his lap and settled back down with his head on Joni. We all squeezed in the back and she introduced us to Graham (Nash). She drove us to Pender Harbour and the next day came to visit to discuss dulcimer specifications with JR. I was amazed when she took up my dulcimer, tuned all the strings to the same note and proceeded to play, "A Case Of You" from her "Blue" album. It seems 'less is more' is a very dulcimer thing. Over the next three weeks JR built her an exquisite mountain dulcimer. But it took him another week to deliver it because he was so shy. She was so delighted she paid him a hundred dollars more than his original quote, which I think was $300. Over 20 years later, in 1996, I was reading a Rolling Stone article about Joni and in the accompanying photograph there she was with JR's dulcimer hanging on the wall behind her. I must admit I felt a twinge of jealousy that JR got in Rolling Stone before I did. JR Stone still lives and builds amazing instruments in Boone, North Carolina. He has built me several four string dulcimers and a 6 string and bass dulcimer as well. Happy Holidays, Leslie Mixon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:41:13 EST From: MDESTE1@aol.com Subject: Re: "throbbing light machine" (md) This is one of my absolutely favorite Joni songs. Yeah I know it got smoked and chided in the song rating on the JMDL two years ago but I have always loved the song because Im a singer and the beauty of the vocals entrances me just as the Dawntreader has always done. I looked it up in both her songbook and the Tab page on JMDL and there always seems to be a chord missing that is on the record but what has been printed doesnt seem to strike my ear as correct. I have found chords NOT printed that work. I have a good ear as many of the listers could attest but this one has me stumped. Having said that I would suggest that this song came from the era when Joni first went to New York. Many of the songs on her first two albums orignated from that "New to new York" experience like Marci and Chelsea Morning and Nathan La freneer. I believe that this song is filled with the images of New York. As such I can only speculate that what she seems to be describing in the song is something ! akin to the Times Square area an d the pinball parlors that she may have encountered or a visit to Coney island. The quasi Olde English atmosphere melody and harmony lines and lyric imagery juxtopposed to the tacky big city imagery seems to fit in my mind. Others may get something completely different out of it. Thats cool. My take is below. Songs to Aging Children by Joni Mitchell - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Through the windless wells of wonder By the throbbing light machine In a tea leaf trance or under Orders from the king and queen Songs to aging children come Aging children, I am one [[[When i read this the first thing I pictured was the arcade at the Santa Cruz Amusement park. ]]] People hurry by so quickly Don't they hear the melodies In the chiming and the clicking And the laughing harmonies {{{Marcel: Sure sounds like a video or pinball arcade to me. Was it Jonis first trip to Coney island which would have had big colourful signs of Royalty imploring hapless visitors to see the two headed snake? Personally being into music as much as I have been i have marveled at the incredible Caliopes in the merry g-rounds Ive seen and I to have noticed that those there couldnt care less. Think about it, How do thise things actually work ?.One of the mysteries of life to me.I treied to actually get off the things and go into that little room in the middle and the guard threw me out before i learned the secret. )) Songs to aging children come Aging children, I am one Some come dark and strange like dying Crows and ravens whistling Lines of weeping, strings of crying So much said in listening ((( People in the tacky "mirthful" atmosphere of the amusement park trying to escape some problem or spoiled relationship yet wearing the face of the dejected amidst the joyful sounds of the kids.?? Joni is a super sensetive person and if her innate sensetivity and poetic ability was combined with something like a first vist to Coney Island or Times Square theres no telling where these images could have actually come from))) Songs to aging children come Aging children, I am one Does the moon play only silver When it strums the galaxy Dying roses will they will their Perfumed rhapsodies to me (((In the 60's there was alot of gratuitous imagery included in lyrics and i could give many examples. Joni was at this point a young songwriter and not as developed as she obviously was to become. She could have simply put together words that sounded wonderful as the final verse as these do or she could have had meaning behind them but like the strange etching on the wall of the Incan Master discovered by the archaeologist we may never know for sure. Who cares by this time the harmonies have me entranced)) Songs to aging children came This is one Ultimately I think Joni was experiencing the first pangs of awareness that you are leaving total youth behind. Far away from home. Not yet successful. A woman alone not very far removed from giving up Kilauren. I believe that if you have that experience where you go back to visit a place (like an amuselment park for instance where when you were small it was so filled with true wonder and you are now an adult it tends to make you feel older than you are because you are really experiencing the end of innocence forever. Of course Joni could always call me personally on the phone and set me straight as per the true meaning (hope hope hope). Marcel Deste ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 07:48:53 -0800 From: Steve Dulson Subject: "throbbing light machine" Relayer211@aol.com asked: >Could anyone explain to me what this is?I''m dying to know... Ah, sigh, all you mere children who missed going to concerts in the '60s! :) Light shows were an integral part of rock events then... - -- ######################################################## Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA steve@psitech.com "The Tinker's Own" http://www.tinkersown.com "Southern California Dulcimer Heritage" http://members.aol.com/scdulcimer/ "The Living Tradition Concert Series" http://www.thelivingtradition.org/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:52:56 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: "throbbing light machine" (md) <> Boy, what an excellent take, Marcel, and it makes sense just as the other 2 distinctly different takes I've seen have. I was surprised you didn't mention "Midway" which appears on the same record. It could very well be that the experience gave birth to twin songs. Bob NP: The Eels, "Selective Memory" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 16:15:44 +0000 From: Jason Maloney Subject: Re: Thumbnail reviews of Joni's albums...and some questions Hi all, I'm a bit late on this one, so forgive me.. SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: > > This is this guy's most flagrant error...BYT is NOT Joni's only single, and > he mentions this as a fact not once but twice. Anyway, like I said a week or > so ago, there's not a good resource that I know of available on the internet > that has the complete listing. Bob, I'm thinking this guy is referring to Joni's UK hit singles, of which BYT has been her only entry (#11, 1970). Saying BYT is her only HIT single (UK-wise) would therefore be correct, but for some reason he's forgetting to make the distinction. I see a lot of incorrect statements and misinterpreted information about hits-vs-single releases on most music sites and in print publications. Not enough people check their facts. Jason. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 13:02:19 EST From: Artheobeat@aol.com Subject: Re: "throbbing light machine" In a message dated 3/16/01 4:06:14 PM, steve@psitech.com writes: << Ah, sigh, all you mere children who missed going to concerts in the '60s! :) Light shows were an integral part of rock events then... >> ** Ah yes, multicolored oils and gels swirled mesmerizingly in the light of an overhead projector, casting a huge, pulsating, throbbing visual veil over the stage and performers, made for a magical little bit 'o psychedelic splendor - especially when augmented by one of Owsley's magic mind potions. (FLASHBACK!!!!!!!!!!!) TIA, Artheo NP - 'Time out of mind' by: Dylan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 13:49:23 -0500 From: "Victor Johnson" Subject: This Just In!!! Crystal Clear Music and Holley's House Concerts Proudly Present **************************************************************************** ********* A Spring House Concert featuring JMDL Artists Kate Bennett and Victor Johnson April 22, Sunday at 7:00pm(doors open at 6:30pm) at 2133 Kodiak Drive Atlanta, GA 30345 (404)320-0355 $10 donation requested...refreshments, coffee, and tea provided (wine permitted)...no smoking Please RSVP and receive directions by calling (404)373-8208 or emailing crystalclearmusic@hotmail.com ***Also catch Victor and Kate at the 30th Annual Inman Park Festival and Tour of Homes located near Little Five Points in Atlanta April 29th, Sunday at 12:00-1:00 pm Under the Big Tent on Euclid and Elizabeth Street Admission free (followed by Cowboy Envy at 1:00 and Sonya Vetra at 2:00) Victor Johnson http://www.cdbaby.com/victorjohnson "Just beyond the morning falls the river of your dreams, Escaping from the day these wild creatures run away." Victor Johnson ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 13:09:22 -0800 From: "Craig" Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #86 Hi, everyone, couldn't resist finally coming out of the lurking shadows. I joined the list several weeks ago and have delighted in reading the daily mail from everyone. As a Joni fan ever since LOTC, which I used to play first thing in the morning as the sunlight streamed through the windows, I have been possessed by this wonderful woman's music and lyrics. I always tell anyone who will listen that Joni's my favoite American poet. As one of the "aging children" that Joni sings about, I just had to answer this question that someone asked yesterday: "The throbbing light machine" refers to a machine used by late 60s deejays and concert promoters to create psychedelic light shows for the audiences at rock concerts. Maybe you just have to be of a certain age to know this stuff. It's always struck me how hip Joni's lyrics are. And as a 60s hipster (not hipster-dufus a la Kramer, I hope!) I felt right at home with her phraseology. Craig in Las Vegas ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 17:35:45 EST From: Fonimitchell@aol.com Subject: Joni, Dylan, Van Morrison - well, nearly! Our agents are putting together a tour with a Van Morrison "tribute" band - Van the Man. Likely to be a Dylan tribute too. More in due course, but already talk of taking the tour further afield if it's successful. Will keep you informed. Happy St.Patrick's Day. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 22:45:40 -0000 From: "joe farrell" Subject: Re Joni tribute album ljc Sent an email to Reprise as Bob suggested using the address included in his post,asking for info on the Joni tribute album, and it was returned undelivered. Anybody else had any problems? Is there another email address for Reprise Records anybody? Would love to know what is happening with the tribute album. Cheers, Joe. NP HOSL ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 17:37:52 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: The Throbbing Light Machine << Hi, everyone, couldn't resist finally coming out of the lurking shadows. I joined the list several weeks ago and have delighted in reading the daily mail from everyone.>> Welcome, Craig! Thanks for delurking and introducing yourself! << "The throbbing light machine" refers to a machine used by late 60s deejays and concert promoters to create psychedelic light shows for the audiences at rock concerts.>> This has been previously stated, but I don't see how this description fits in context of the lyrics of the song. I'd appreciate any other enLIGHTenments you could bring to your interpretation! :~) Bob ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 20:19:09 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: delete well, switch the fucking thing on, darling, and you'll get off all right! wallyK - -----Mensaje original----- De: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]En nombre de Sarah Thomas Enviado el: Viernes, 16 de Marzo de 2001 07:41 a.m. Para: joni@smoe.org Asunto: delete Joni Chatroom: http://www.jmdl.com/chat.cfm NE JoniFest 2001: http://www.jmdl.com/jfne2001.cfm i wanna gt off this fucking thing _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 18:27:10 EST From: RPWieloh@cs.com Subject: lookin for a book Hi Barbara, I read your item on the Joni Digest today about the sandwich shop, Long Beach, Highway 101, and it reminded me of my trip to the area, It was wonderful. Do you know of a book written about the the Highway, its people, and the whole scene. I know this is a "strech",and there must be several books written about the area, also it might have been written by an author named Miller. Just a shot in the dark.Rich ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 18:37:11 EST From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: Re Joni tribute album ljc Was this the email address you used? reprise@wbr.com I emailed them about a month ago. Good luck in getting a response from them Rose in NJ rosemjoy@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 15:58:13 -0800 From: jan gyn Subject: hear your own audio inside an abandoned grain silo in montreal http://www.silophone.net ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 19:54:14 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: This Just In!!! Hey Victor and Kate! This is fantastic!! All you JMDL'ers in the region should catch these two wonderful ones!! Kakki NP: Marian Hoiting - Carey - Covers Vol. 15 (THANKS BOB!) > Crystal Clear Music and Holley's House Concerts Proudly Present > A Spring House Concert featuring JMDL Artists Kate Bennett and > Victor Johnson April 22, Sunday at 7:00pm(doors open at 6:30pm) >at 2133 Kodiak Drive Atlanta, GA 30345 (404)320-0355 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 18:13:57 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: Important!!! Please read! somehow i did not receive this post!!!!! could someone please forward it to me? wallyK - -----Mensaje original----- De: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]En nombre de RoseMJoy@aol.com Enviado el: Miircoles, 14 de Marzo de 2001 05:48 p.m. Para: AsharaJM@aol.com CC: joni@smoe.org Asunto: Re: Important!!! Please read! Joni Chatroom: http://www.jmdl.com/chat.cfm NE JoniFest 2001: http://www.jmdl.com/jfne2001.cfm Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com In a message dated 3/14/01 1:35:13 PM Eastern Standard Time, AsharaJM@aol.com writes: > I am begging all of you to reach deep into your pockets with this particular > fundraiser. Jim is battling serious medical problems at this time, and is > not > Yes, please be generous. Thanks, Rose in NJ rosemjoy@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 20:35:33 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #86 Welcome Craig! I think you are our first lister (at least to delurk) from Las Vegas! > As one of the "aging children" that Joni sings about, I just had to answer > this question that someone asked yesterday: > "The throbbing light machine" refers to a machine used by late 60s deejays > and concert promoters to create psychedelic light shows for the audiences at > rock concerts. Maybe you just have to be of a certain age to know this > stuff. It's always struck me how hip Joni's lyrics are. And as a 60s hipster > (not hipster-dufus a la Kramer, I hope!) I felt right at home with her > phraseology. Ah yes, I remember they even used them at my high school dances back then and later people even got their own light machines for parties at home. Also remember the "black lights" that you'd shine on psychedelic posters to make them glow? ;-) I think Joni's lyrics here are the most poetic description of "altered consciousness" I've ever read. My take is that rather than overtly condoning the use of substances like many of the songs of the era, she seems to be subtly implying it's a distraction of aging children, one which she, nonetheless, engages in ;-) Kakki NP: Twisted - Robin McElhatten ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 21:25:24 -0800 From: "BRIAN SYMES" Subject: Joni Dream Location: Sisotowbell College Class: Clouds 101 Proffessor Deste is explaining the song Songs to Aging Children. The class is depressed and hazy eyed, its monday and we all have hang overs from Strawberry wine we had last night. All of a sudden Doctor Who's Tardis Shows up on the stage and he pulls out of the small telephone call box a BIG screen tv the professor whips out the remote and on the screen we see a beautiful blonde woman sitting on a coney island park bench all alone she was reading some poetry books one by Dylan Thomas,Ginsburg and Yeats. All of a sudden The Mystical curtain of reality folded open for the class and we were sucked right into the big screen tv and we were sharing Joni's Books and smiling at each other. Thanks Marcel I wish a book on joni's songs could be written at the level of your "throbbing light machine" post Brian - ----------------------- Free Email Service provided to you by Office.com, a service from Winstar ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #87 ******************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?