From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #81 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Sunday, March 11 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 081 The 'Official' Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: delurking with Joni-question [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] She don't like my grammar ["william" ] Re: She don't like my grammar [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Big Yellow Taxi [FMYFL@aol.com] Re: Where did everybody go? ["Linda Watson" ] Re: She don't like my grammar [TreyCozy@aol.com] Re: Big Yellow Taxi [IVPAUL42@aol.com] Re: Where did everybody go? [IVPAUL42@aol.com] RE: She don't like my grammar ["Wally Kairuz" ] Re: She don't like my grammar [IVPAUL42@aol.com] Re: She don't like my grammar [susan+rick ] Re: She don't like my grammar [Catherine McKay ] Re: She don't like my grammar ["Kakki" ] RE: She don't like my grammar ["Wally Kairuz" ] Re: Big Yellow Taxi [FMYFL@aol.com] RE: She don't like my grammar ["Wally Kairuz" ] Fwd: Great picture on ClassMates.com ["Diane Evans" ] Re: She don't like my grammar ["Kakki" ] Re: She don't like my grammar [Randy Remote ] Re: She don't like my grammar [Vince Lavieri ] Re: She don't like my grammar - VLJC [Murphycopy@aol.com] Re: She don't like my grammar - VLJC ["Kakki" ] Re: Where did everybody go? [catman ] Re: She don't like my grammar [catman ] Re: She don't like my grammar [catman ] Re: Memorial Day in NYC [Michael Paz ] Re: Joni/Kilauren [Michael Paz ] Re: the klan [Michael Paz ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 09:38:31 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: delurking with Joni-question << When Joni recorded her first 2 albums, did she do the voice and guitar as separate tracks, or did she do them live? >> Cathy, I'm no authority, but from what I read these sessions with Crosby were fairly hurried. I'm about 99% sure that she didn't record using overdubs...like you say, they are just TOO well synchronized. Anyway, 'preciate the de-lurk...keep it up! :~) Bob ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 21:26:01 +0700 From: "william" Subject: She don't like my grammar Being a teacher of English I often use songs as a teaching aid. The Beatles are the best for that. I was listening to FTR and caught the line, she don't like my kick pleat skirt, she don't like my eyelids painted green. Obvious grammar errors there. I thought I could use this artistic license as a test for my students. The only other Joni one that comes to mind is, I didn't know I drank such a lot. Any lines from songs you know with blatant grammar errors? Dylan, I never knowed. Having a giggle at the thought of Joni singing, doesn't it always seem to go. So wrong! Willy the Shake ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 09:51:05 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: She don't like my grammar << Any lines from songs you know with blatant grammar errors? >> Does... "And I'm drawn to those ones that ain't" qualify? Bob NP: Kind Of Like Spitting, "Last Time I Saw Richard"...really like this one with the plain-speak vocal and sparse guitar. Sounds like it's been sung IMMEDIATELY after the cafe has closed...cool. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 10:30:45 EST From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Big Yellow Taxi I read in the newspaper today that the Recording Industry Association of America announced Songs of the Century, and Joni's "Big Yellow Taxi" is listed. The first paragraph reads: "WASHINGTON, March 7, 2001 b The Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) and The National Endowment for the Arts (NEA) announced today the bSongs of the Centuryb project, a nationwide education initiative intended to promote a better understanding of Americabs musical and cultural heritage in our schools." See www.raii.com for the article and list of songs. Unfortunately, when I click on the songs by rank it the page would not display, so maybe someone else might have better luck with it. Way to go Joan! Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 10:44:29 -0500 From: "Linda Watson" Subject: Re: Where did everybody go? Kerry, Busted! I'm guilty of being a lurker---I've been here a couple of weeks or so---and I kinda chose to lurk---just until I get a "feel" for the place. I did pop into the chat room a couple nights ago for a few minutes--but basically I've been standing in the shadows. My reason is that---I naturally have a really wierd sense of humor that rears it's ugly head in almost everything I say--and it tends to put people off--especially in email--because you can't really tell if I'm trying to be funny or piss people off(which I would NEVER do)--so I usually just keep quiet until I can determine how people on the list will accept that into the conversation. It's not cool to come in and take the chance of making someone upset if you are only joking about something. Don't know if that makes sense---but there Ya have it---My lurking confession!! :~) Linda Helllloooooo......(hello, hello, hello.....) This place has been like a ghost town ever since the chat room opened up! There can't be 800 people in the chat room! I guess more lurkers will have to come out of the shadows! I've always wanted to ask why people choose to be lurkers or non-lurkers. (You'll probably tell me it's not a choice, it's just the way you are, but I'm interested...) The chat room is fun, but I kinda miss the list. The discussions tended to be a little deeper. Not that cheap and superficial can't be fun sometimes! :>) Kerry _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 12:36:15 EST From: TreyCozy@aol.com Subject: Re: She don't like my grammar My friends call me the GRAMMAR POLICE! LOL I've had many debates about it. It annoys me when it's gratuitous -- like nudity. There is one lyric of Joni's, and it happens to be in one of my favorite tunes of all time, and it always makes me smile in spite of myself: "Where the hell's that at? If you want me, I'll be in the bar." - Case of You My mother's reply to "Where the hell's that at?" would be "BETWEEN THE 'A' AND THE 'T'!!" Ending a sentence with a preposition (especially AT) is one of my biggest pet peeves!! But Joni can do whatever she wants!!! Trey (now I'm suddenly feeling self conscious... fearing that if there are any grammar mistakes in my posts, you'll all send them back to me corrected in RED!!) np - Longing Town, Duncan Sheik (I'm loving this record - a lot of the arrangements remind me of the great stuff on Court and Spark and For the Roses -- lots of strings and flutes and such... I really like it!! It's very moody...) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 13:14:27 EST From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: Big Yellow Taxi In a message dated 3/10/01 10:34:45 AM Eastern Standard Time, FMYFL@aol.com writes: << I read in the newspaper today that the Recording Industry Association of America announced Songs of the Century, and Joni's "Big Yellow Taxi" is listed. >> BYT was #347. I posted this on March 7. Paul I ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 13:18:01 EST From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: Where did everybody go? In a message dated 3/10/01 10:47:52 AM Eastern Standard Time, torturedvanity@hotmail.com writes: << because you can't really tell if I'm trying to be funny or piss people off(which I would NEVER do)--so I usually just keep quiet until I can determine how people on the list will accept that into the conversation. It's not cool to come in and take the chance of making someone upset if you are only joking about something. >> Don't worry, Linda. I never let it stop me. LOL. Paul I ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 15:24:00 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: She don't like my grammar ''lately i don't count on nothing'', just like this train wallyK - -----Mensaje original----- De: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]En nombre de william Enviado el: Sabado, 10 de Marzo de 2001 11:26 a.m. Para: joni@smoe.org Asunto: She don't like my grammar Being a teacher of English I often use songs as a teaching aid. The Beatles are the best for that. I was listening to FTR and caught the line, she don't like my kick pleat skirt, she don't like my eyelids painted green. Obvious grammar errors there. I thought I could use this artistic license as a test for my students. The only other Joni one that comes to mind is, I didn't know I drank such a lot. Any lines from songs you know with blatant grammar errors? Dylan, I never knowed. Having a giggle at the thought of Joni singing, doesn't it always seem to go. So wrong! Willy the Shake ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 13:27:29 EST From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: She don't like my grammar In a message dated 3/10/01 12:45:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, TreyCozy@aol.com writes: << "Where the hell's that at? If you want me, I'll be in the bar." - Case of You My mother's reply to "Where the hell's that at?" would be "BETWEEN THE 'A' AND THE 'T'!!" Ending a sentence with a preposition (especially AT) is one of my biggest pet peeves!! But Joni can do whatever she wants!!! >> Not a gramar mistake, but a lyric mistake, unless maybe you're quoting from a live performance? In the original version of ACOY on Blue, it's simply, "Were's that at?" And to me, it's not so much the ending with a preposition that's a problem because many grammarians say that is antiquated objection, but the fact that "at" is superfluous. "Where's that?" should suffice. ;>) Paul I ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 11:10:59 -0800 From: susan+rick Subject: Re: She don't like my grammar I'm not sure how old you or Trey are, Paul, but this lyric could not have been written any other way. "Where it's at" was common usage during the hippie days, as in "Smokin' hash is where it's at." "It" refers to a state of coolness or hipness or whatever you want it to mean as long as it's good. Joni is making a rebuttal to her lover's attempt at profundity: Being in the darkness is not where it's at. Excuse my lapse into pedantry. Ranger Rick On 3/10/01 10:27 AM, IVPAUL42@aol.com wrote > And to me, it's not so much the ending with a preposition that's a problem > because many grammarians say that is antiquated objection, but the fact that > "at" is superfluous. "Where's that?" should suffice. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 14:20:37 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: She don't like my grammar - --- SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: > << Any lines from songs you know with blatant > grammar > errors? >> > > Does... > > "And I'm drawn to those ones that ain't" > > qualify? > That's right - everyone knows the correct way to say it would be: "And I'm drawed to those ones that ain't." ;) Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 11:35:56 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: She don't like my grammar Rick wrote: > I'm not sure how old you or Trey are, Paul, but this lyric could not have > been written any other way. "Where it's at" was common usage during the > hippie days, as in "Smokin' hash is where it's at." "It" refers to a state > of coolness or hipness or whatever you want it to mean as long as it's good. > Joni is making a rebuttal to her lover's attempt at profundity: Being in the > darkness is not where it's at. Right on, Rick! As soon as I read this the song "Creeque Alley" came into my head. I think that the Mamas and the Papas were the first to use the expression in a song. I used to love to sing this one. For those not of hippie age, this was the autobiography of the group put to song. I've posted the lyrics below. By the way "Mitchie" refers to Michelle Phillips and not Joni Mitchie ;-) And for PC considerations the term "fat" was slang back then for making lots of money (but there is an obvious double entendre re Mama Cass) Kakki John and Mitchie were gettin' kinda itchy just to leave the folk music behind Zal and Denny workin' for a penny tryin' to get a fish on the line In a coffee house Sebastian sat ... and after every number they passed the hat McGuinn and McGuire just are gettin' higher in L.A. you know where that's at And no one's getting fat except Mama Cass. Zallie said 'Denny, you know there aren't many who can sing a song the way that you do' (Let's go South) Denny said 'Zallie, golly, don't you think that I wish I could play guitar like you' Zal, Denny and Sebastian sat (at the Night Owl) McGuinn and McGuire still are gettin' higher in L.A. you know where that's at And no one's getting fat except Mama Cass. When Cass was a Sophomore, planned to go to Swarthmore, But she changed her mind one day Standing on the turnpike, thumb out to hitchhike, Take her to New York right away When Denny met Cass he gave her love bumps Call John and Zal, and that was the Mugwumps McGuinn and McGuire couldn't get no higher but that's what they were aiming at And no one's getting fat except Mama Cass. Mugwumps , hi-jumps, low slumps, big bumps, don't you work as hard as you play Drink-up, break-up, everything is shake-up Guess it had to be that way Sebastian and Zal formed the Spoonful Michelle, John and Denny gettin' very tuneful McGuinn and McGuire just are catchin' fire in L.A. you know where that's at And everybody's gettin' fat except Mama Cass. Broke, busted, disgusted, agents can't be trusted, and Mitchie wants to go to the sea Cass can't make it, she says we'll have to fake it We knew she'd come eventually Greasin' on American Express card Tents, low rents, and keepin' out the heat's hard Duffy's good vibrations, and our imaginations, can't go on indefinitely And California Dreaming is becoming a reality. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 16:59:41 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: She don't like my grammar i'm sure that the lyrics say ''i'm drawn to those ones that ain't AFRAID'', which would supply the predicative. my comment on this is that ''ones'' after ''those'' is superfluous because ''those'' is not a demonstrative pronoun in this sentence. and, yes, ''ain't'' sounds kind of terrible, ''don't'' it? wallyK ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 15:58:10 EST From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: Big Yellow Taxi In a message dated 3/10/01 1:21:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, IVPAUL42@aol.com writes: << BYT was #347. I posted this on March 7. >> Sorry about that Paul! I don't know how one of your posts could have escaped me. Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 18:08:24 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: She don't like my grammar ''let me show you how your petty aggravations can profit you'', the 3 great stimulants WK ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 18:06:25 -0500 From: "Diane Evans" Subject: Fwd: Great picture on ClassMates.com Hello, all! A friend sent this to me, hope it works for all of you. It is, of course, Joni. >Check out this interesting article I found on ClassMates.com at >http://www.classmates.com/go/cm/celeb/yearbook/open_view.tf?name_id=1242;s=4005;s=4005. BWDiane NP Tipitina - Professor Longhair - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 18:33:18 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Where did everybody go? << My reason is that---I naturally have a really wierd sense of humor that rears it's ugly head in almost everything I say-- >> Hey Linda, I'm like the czar of weird, but as long as you post often enough, people will get how you are and accept you. So keep em' comin, OK? Thanks for peeping out of them shadows! (Hey, if Joni can have bad grammar, then me can too!) ;~) Bob NP: Erykah Badu, "Orange Moon" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 18:41:37 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: She don't like my grammar << I think that the Mamas and the Papas were the first to use the expression in a song. >> How about, "C'mon, let me show you where it's at...the name of the place is I like it like that"...forget the song title, and it might have even been after Mamas & Papa's...my point is just to re-emphasize the topicality of the usage, a lot like "Sunset Pig". Bob NP: Lydia van Dam, "River" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 16:10:29 -0800 (PST) From: Alison E Subject: Re: Memorial Day in NYC ummm, david, jeff and i live 5 blocks away. you can put us in the "yes" column, sir. ;-) alison e. in chelsea, the neighborhood where the deal goes down... - --- Dflahm@aol.com wrote: > First oops.... > > Rose in NJ...I forgot to include you in the YES > column, but happily do so > now. DL Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 15:56:28 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: She don't like my grammar > How about, "C'mon, let me show you where it's at...the name of the place is I > like it like that"...forget the song title, and it might have even been after > Mamas & Papa's...my point is just to re-emphasize the topicality of the > usage, a lot like "Sunset Pig". Good one Bob! I'm pretty sure Freddy Cannon's "Let Me Show You Where Its At" (came out in either the late 50s or early 60s) precedes Creeque Alley ('66 or '67) on the timeline. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 16:22:29 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: She don't like my grammar "I Like It Like That" Dave Clark Five (1965??) SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: > << I think that the Mamas and the Papas were the first to use the > expression in a song. >> > > How about, "C'mon, let me show you where it's at...the name of the place is I > like it like that"...forget the song title, and it might have even been after > Mamas & Papa's...my point is just to re-emphasize the topicality of the > usage, a lot like "Sunset Pig". > > Bob > > NP: Lydia van Dam, "River" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 20:09:07 -0500 From: Vince Lavieri Subject: Re: She don't like my grammar Freddy Cannon had a version, Kakki? There is my fact for the day! Some group whose name I forget had a big hit with it in May-June 1965, too, which I remember from when I graduated the 8th grade. And that as well precedes Creeque Alley. "California Dreamin" was not that long after that, however, for a point of reference, and "Monday, Monday" hit it big as as single in the spring of 1966. Now if this were useful information that I could earn a living at, Iwouldn't remember a damned thing. (the Rev) Vince Kakki wrote: > > How about, "C'mon, let me show you where it's at...the name of the place > is I > > like it like that"...forget the song title, and it might have even been > after > > Mamas & Papa's...my point is just to re-emphasize the topicality of the > > usage, a lot like "Sunset Pig". > > Good one Bob! I'm pretty sure Freddy Cannon's "Let Me Show You Where Its > At" (came out in either the late 50s or early 60s) precedes Creeque Alley > ('66 or '67) on the timeline. > > Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 20:09:20 EST From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: She don't like my grammar - VLJC In a message dated 3/10/01 6:47:50 PM, SCJoniGuy@aol.com writes: << How about, "C'mon, let me show you where it's at...the name of the place is I like it like that"...forget the song title, and it might have even been after Mamas & Papa's... >> Hey, Bob, I believe the name of the song is, um, 'I Like It Like That' by the Dave Clark 5. :-) I think the song came out a couple of years before the Mamas and Papas hit the charts, maybe '65 or '66? And while we're at it, does anyone remember a mid- to late-'60s music show hosted by Lloyd Thaxton -- from LA, I think -- called 'Where It's At?' I'm pretty sure they used this song to open every episode. And to really come full circle, this show was where I saw the Mamas and the Papas for the first time, when they we first becoming famous. I remember it like it was 35 years ago. Regarding the list's discussion of Joni's grammar, I think her grammar is always perfect, whether it's correct or not. Joni's no slouch -- she chooses her words like a poet. When the woman in 'The Last Time I Saw Richard' says "Constantly in darkness, where's that at," Joni's choice of words tells us so much about this woman -- she's quick, witty, she speaks in a hip and slangy way, and her relationship to Richard has gone so far down the tubes, she's being cutting and sarcastic with him. How many other songwriters could accomplish so much with just six words? When this brilliant line came into Joni's head, I don't think she was too worried about dangling prepositions. ;-) But then again, I suppose they probably discuss correct capialzation on the k. d. laing and e. e. cummings lists! Have a great weekend, --Bob NPIMH: 'Down to Youse' ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 17:05:48 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: She don't like my grammar - VLJC Bob Murphy wrote: >And while we're at it, does anyone remember > a mid- to late-'60s music show hosted by Lloyd Thaxton -- from LA, I think -- > called 'Where It's At?' I'm pretty sure they used this song to open every > episode. I started thinking about those old dance shows, too. I think it was just called "The Lloyd Thaxton Show" but Dick Clark (not of the DC5) had the show "Where The Action Is." Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 03:26:17 +0000 From: catman Subject: Re: Where did everybody go? Welcome Linda-one thing you might like to take on baord-just be your self. You are bound to upset someone no matter what you write!! Jokes will not be got, serious comments will be laughed at, friendly overtures will be considered flaming, flaming will be considered polite, snotty arrogance will go unoticed. So just wade in and know what you mean. The rest of us have the choice of how we interpret it! There are some wonderful people here, flawed like you and me. It's fun and sometimes not but it is a great place to be. have a good day. Linda Watson wrote: > Kerry, > > Busted! I'm guilty of being a lurker---I've been here a couple of weeks or > so---and I kinda chose to lurk---just until I get a "feel" for the place. I > did pop into the chat room a couple nights ago for a few minutes--but > basically I've been standing in the shadows. > > My reason is that---I naturally have a really wierd sense of humor that > rears it's ugly head in almost everything I say--and it tends to put people > off--especially in email--because you can't really tell if I'm trying to be > funny or piss people off(which I would NEVER do)--so I usually just keep > quiet until I can determine how people on the list will accept that into the > conversation. It's not cool to come in and take the chance of making someone > upset if you are only joking about something. > > Don't know if that makes sense---but there Ya have it---My lurking > confession!! :~) > > Linda > > Helllloooooo......(hello, hello, hello.....) > This place has been like a ghost town ever since the chat room opened up! > There can't be 800 people in the chat room! I guess more lurkers will have > to come out of the shadows! I've always wanted to ask why people choose to > be lurkers or non-lurkers. (You'll probably tell me it's not a choice, it's > just the way you are, but I'm interested...) The chat room is fun, but I > kinda miss the list. The discussions tended to be a little deeper. Not > that cheap and superficial can't be fun sometimes! :>) > > Kerry > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - -- bw colin colin@tantra.fsbusiness.co.uk http://www.geocities.com/tantra_apso/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 03:31:21 +0000 From: catman Subject: Re: She don't like my grammar > My mother's reply to "Where the hell's that at?" would be "BETWEEN THE 'A' > AND THE 'T'!!" Ending a sentence with a preposition (especially AT) is one > of my biggest pet peeves!! you should be so lucky that such a little thing peeves you! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 03:33:37 +0000 From: catman Subject: Re: She don't like my grammar Wally Kairuz wrote: > ''lately i don't count on nothing'', just like this train > wallyK > > - I didn't think this was bad grammar, just American. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 21:50:58 -0800 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Memorial Day in NYC David- After further review by the Paz Tribe, it looks like finances and guilt may prevent me from taking another long weekend away from the family. There is NOwhere on earth I would rather be than with good friends around your piano and enjoying a weekend of music. If I hit the lotto and the kids decede to go to summer camp somewhere, I may have to phone my participation in. Please put me over the column with Kakki to keep her compnay for know and see if some MORE good fotune comes my way as I have been so blessed lately. My best to all and actually I have heard there are other folks who have said they will be there, you guys should write to David and get on the list. David, I hope you can come over for Boston on Labor Day weekend. Atty May could use a goodd dose of Lahm magic. Hope you all are well. love Paz NP-Damn Everything But The Circus-The Story on 3/9/01 7:13 PM, Dflahm@aol.com at Dflahm@aol.com wrote: > Dear Friends--- > I have arranged for JUDY'S CHELSEA, the cabaret restaurant where my wife, > Judy and I are partners, to be the site for a JoniFest on Saturday afternoon > and evening and Sunday afternoon of Memorial Day weekend (May 26th and 27th). > > YES SO FAR NO SO FAR MAYBE SO FAR > Emily Gray Marcel > Michael Paz > Steve & Leslie Mixon Kakki > Julius > Victor Johnson > Ashara > MG > Heather (Luvart) > > OK, that's it for now, DAVID > LAHM ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 22:10:43 -0800 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Joni/Kilauren Roberto- I couldn't agree more. This is the kinda stuff that makes me uncomfortable to discuss in open forum whether it's true or not. I am so glad that you are on the YES list for Boston. Maybe this year we can play again. I would like to revive that FTR tribute set. If so I would love to do CBSSF as an ensemble with Claudia taking lead vox, YTMOIAR as an emsemble, I can play the guitar, and I would like you to accompany me on lead vox on Blonde in the Bleachers and/or See You Sometime if there are no other takers. Let the discussion begin! Paz NP-And OUr Faces, My Heart, Brief As Photos-The Story on 3/4/01 12:07 AM, Robert Holliston at rhollis@home.com wrote: > Yeah, I read this, too. I was appalled to think that this poor young woman is > having her dirty linen aired because she is the daughter of a celebrity. I > beg all of you not to go there. > Among all Canadian rags, I hate the National Post. It's like the [American] > National Review, except stupider. > Kilauren Gibb is obviously enduring some tough times. So have we all: let's > let her deal with them in privacy and in her own time, the way we all did. > That said, I hate to emerge from lurkdom to say something which may be > construed as negative. Joni's giving up her daughter for adoption was > selfless and wise. Her wish to contact her daughter thirty years later was > understandable. Her claim that she now has a family complete with > grandchildren has always struck me as self-absorbed and fraught with > potential difficulty. When you give a child up to adoption, surely you yield > parenthood to the adoptive parents. > Yuck! I'm disgusting even myself - this is a private matter and should be > treated as such. > > Ashamed of our Canadian media, and not for the first time, > Roberto ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 22:13:13 -0800 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: the klan Hey Pat- i meant to write you back and tell you hoe much i really liked your work. I would love to hear you play it. Are there recordings of this in exsistence?? It would be neat to put together and cd project of original songs from list members as a project (even a tree). I have hear so many agreat originals since I have been on this list. best Paz NP-Dog Dreams-The Story on 3/3/01 6:38 AM, P. Henry at badwolff@angelfire.com wrote: > (song I used to do) > > the country side was cold and still > there was a cross upon a hill > this cold cross wore a burning hood > to hide it's ugly heart of wood > > father... I hear the iron sound > of hoofbeats on the frozen ground > > down from the hill the riders came > Lord it was a cryin' shame > To see the blood upon their whips > and hear the snarlin' of their lips > > mother... I feel a stabbing pain > my blood runs down like summers rain > > now each one wore a mask of white > to hide his cruel face from sight > and each one sucked a hungry breath > out from the empty lungs of death > > sister, come hod my bloody head > it's so lonely to be dead > > now he who travels with the klan > he's a devil and not a man > and underneath that white disguise > I have looked into his eyes > > brother... will you stand by me > it's not easy to be free > > > > Who needs Cupid? Matchmaker.com is the place to meet somebody. > FREE Two-week Trial Membership at http://www.matchmaker.com/home?rs=200015 ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #81 ******************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?