From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #78 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Thursday, March 8 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 078 The 'Official' Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Joni in BC [Steve Dulson ] both of chat rooms ["Vadim Litvin" ] Re: Joni's Most Underrated? ["Kakki" ] Re: Joni in BC ["Kakki" ] [none] ["Dave and Beth Fairall" ] Tom Scott et al [Steve Dulson ] Re: Joni's Most Underrated? [philipf@tinet.ie] Re: Joni's Most Underrated? [philipf@tinet.ie] Re: The Boys in the Band [philipf@tinet.ie] RE: "Official Business" ["Wally Kairuz" ] Re: *Joni chat room?-SJC [RK1THXguy@aol.com] Mike & Linda [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: [JoniMitchellfans] the gallery ["P. Henry Boland" ] Re: the gallery - corrected msg [RoseMJoy@aol.com] ICQ Download -- Beware! ["Louis Lynch" ] Re: "Official Business" ["hell" ] Re: RIAA top 400 songs [IVPAUL42@aol.com] New Jaco website ["Kakki" ] Lovely Chatting! ["Louis Lynch" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 15:28:19 -0800 From: Steve Dulson Subject: Joni in BC Kakki wrote: >I recall the story posted here about the guy who was hitchiking up there and >got picked up by Joni. The guy was Rick Scott, and the story was told by Paul Castle. Rick and Paul were both at Folk Alliance - Rick lives on one of the islands on the coast up there. Never met up with Paul, despite my efforts. :( >the Jolly Roger Is that near Lord Jim's Lodge? - -- ######################################################## Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA steve@psitech.com "The Tinker's Own" http://www.tinkersown.com "Southern California Dulcimer Heritage" http://members.aol.com/scdulcimer/ "The Living Tradition Concert Series" http://www.thelivingtradition.org/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 01:18:59 +0200 From: "Vadim Litvin" Subject: both of chat rooms I've just connected to the both of chat rooms.... And what I've seen ... There is nobody there................. Please , join the chat now if you can!!.. vad (in ukraine)(it's 1:20 a.m. here) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 15:25:57 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Joni's Most Underrated? David wrote: > You will not be surprised that I disagree, Kakki. At least in part. I think > the Metheny hookup was a one-time thing, but I also feel that JM's writing > and singing grew more through her relationship with Pastorius than with any > other colleague I know about. There's no denying her brilliant relationship with Jaco, especially for me, on DJRD. However, it does seem Tom Scott and his associates get short shrift in comparison to Jaco and his associates. The contributions of Scott are usually just associated with Miles of Aisles, the live album that people have always had mixed feelings about. I agree with what Steve Dulson said about them standing out a bit too much on MOA. But "pound for pound," if you look at the record of her many great albums that involved Tom Scott and his associates it gives another perspective that they may have been quite underrated in the overall history: For The Roses: Tom Scott and Wilton Felder Court & Spark: Tom Scott, Max Bennett, John Guerin, Joe Sample, Larry Carlton, Wilton Felder, Chuck Findley Miles of Aisles: Tom Scott, Max Bennett, John Guerin, Robben Ford Hissing of Summer Lawns: Larry Carlton, Joe Sample, John Guerin, Max Bennett, Robben Ford, Wilton Felder, Chuck Findley With the exception of the live MOA, these albums are considered by many to be her finest. They should also get some credit for being her first "band",one that helped her branch out creatively and set the groundwork for her later direction with Jaco, et al. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 15:36:20 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Joni in BC > The guy was Rick Scott, and the story was told by Paul Castle. > Rick and Paul were both at Folk Alliance - Rick lives on one of > the islands on the coast up there. Never met up with Paul, > despite my efforts. :( Thanks, Steve - that was such a great story. Maybe someone could re-post it here. Sorry you missed Paul at the event. > >the Jolly Roger > > Is that near Lord Jim's Lodge? LOL, I was wondering the same thing ;-) Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 19:34:25 -0600 From: "Dave and Beth Fairall" Subject: [none] Bob, I too think the LA Express were a nice compliment to Joni, probably started her thinking more about orchestration. They were a very musical band, no showboats, and Robben Ford was already showing signs of brilliance on guitar. Tom Scott's pop/jazz saxophone sound was original, even influential, and in those days he was launching a commercial career which would find him playing on hundreds of records as an in-demand session player. But the 79 band was just plain baaaaaddd, and not a chops fest either, listen to the ensemble playing on Shadows and Light. Joni's work w/ Jaco has always been special to me....I think they were soul mates. Dave F. [demime 0.97c removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 16:46:02 -0800 From: Steve Dulson Subject: Tom Scott et al Stephen in beautiful Vancouver wrote: >Steve- hang on to those loonies for your next trip to Vanc. I will! I'm ready to come back! >Misles of Aisles is still one of my most played JMs. I do agree that some >of the Tom Scott sound is a bit dated now. But is was a brilliant sound- >he and Joni- @ the time. Yes, I agree. And C & S and the MOA tour gave Joni the widest exposure she's ever had, before or since, so that was a plus. >I find the Blade/Isham et al, the perfect backing for JM. Absolutely! And Bob M. wrote: >I wouldn't want to confuse a well-placed, well-executed solo with >showing >off. One of the highlights of the show in Atlanta was Greg >Liesz' rockin' >solo on Black Crow. Right! But I did not think the LA Express solos served Joni's songs that well - I felt they were soloing because it was their turn, or whatever. >The band that said "Listen to ME" was her '79 band, not that that >was a >bad thing because it was a group of virtuosos, but they all >had their solo >sections and everything. I'll go along with that. >And where does her '83 road band fit into the picture? Uh-oh! I can't remember that outfit too well. I do remember that that was the last tour I saw Joni play dulcimer on. :) - -- ######################################################## Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA steve@psitech.com "The Tinker's Own" http://www.tinkersown.com "Southern California Dulcimer Heritage" http://members.aol.com/scdulcimer/ "The Living Tradition Concert Series" http://www.thelivingtradition.org/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 00:48:40 -0000 From: philipf@tinet.ie Subject: Re: Joni's Most Underrated? > Pound for pound, they outweighed > Jaco and Pat, IMHO. > > Kakki (in asbestos) > Me too. I wish she'd put out a MOA 2 with the band versions of This Flight Tonight , Car On a Hill, Twisted and others that I remember from that tour. Philip ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 00:50:12 -0000 From: philipf@tinet.ie Subject: Re: Joni's Most Underrated? - ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Dulson > Philip in Ireland (preparing for St. Pat's day by drinking > green beer and putting on funny hats, like all authentic > Irishmen, eh Philip?:) ) wrote: > Ha Ha Ha Steve. This year a band I'm friends with are playing a show in Paris and asked me to come along. Maybe they want a mature guy like me around to take care of the cocaine and the groupies. :) Whatever colour the beer is I'll be more than happy to sample it. > A lot of > MOA seems to be the band saying "here, listen to ME!!" I'd agree with that statement if you substitute S+L for MOA. cheers, Philip ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 00:49:37 -0000 From: philipf@tinet.ie Subject: Re: The Boys in the Band Scott wrote: > Jaco Pastorius > was given much more free reign (and WHO could even think of holding him > back??). Sure, no question, When she wanted to make a more abstract expressionist statement musically, Jaco was undoubtedly the right man for the job. His tone on Hejira was beautiful but by the time they got to Mingus his ego had run riot. Didn't she say that the early Mingus sessions had to be scrapped because when they played it back Jaco's bass had drowned out everyone else. Max was the right man in the right place for HOSL. Listen to his intro on the title track and the little cascade of notes he plays right after she sings the word "hill". Philip ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 21:53:35 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: "Official Business" well, I'M looking forward to getting lost with BOTH of you!!!!!! murphy, you owe me a ride on your stick [your truck, you know]. wallyK -----Mensaje original----- De: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]En nombre de FMYFL@aol.com Enviado el: Miircoles, 07 de Marzo de 2001 02:26 p.m. Para: AsharaJM@aol.com; joni@smoe.org Asunto: Re: "Official Business" YIPPEE!!!! Count me in Ashara!!!! Muller did forget one verse of the song : Arriving late on Friday night Bob's flight could have been quicker Instead he staggered in the house and dropped his bottle of King Cobra Malt Liquor :~) Jimmy, looking forward to getting lost with Bob Murphy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 20:15:29 EST From: RK1THXguy@aol.com Subject: Re: *Joni chat room?-SJC In a message dated 3/7/01 12:25:06 AM, briansymes@office.com writes: << I got in to the chat room monday >> * Yes! I finally got in too. I needed to update my JAVA - works great now. << nice weather here in portlandia! >> * My god! It is awesome. Paradise, and good weather too!! It's almost more than I can stand. << Hey i would still like to meet you. >> * Definitely - I would have made it to see Jonatha - but the Grammy's got in my way. Heard it was great! Rob of Stumptown NP, 'Blues in Jumptime' Larry Raspberry & the Highsteppers ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 20:59:41 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Mike & Linda << I am really disecting "Turn Me On, I'm A Radio", is that the correct title? Sorry if it's not. I have just came out of a long term relationship, and that song really applies at this time. Can't wait to get over it, who said LOVE was fun? They lied...again!!! >> Sorry about your relationship, Mike...Love *IS* fun...to begin with! The correct title is "YOU Turn me on, I'm A Radio", so you were very close. Hejira is probably good medicine for you too, with a small dose of Blue... Thanks for delurking, but next time there's no need to send the entire digest along with your post! ;~) Bob, fellow Linda-lover NP: Beth Orton, "Bullett" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 12:26:52 +1000 From: "P. Henry Boland" Subject: Re: [JoniMitchellfans] the gallery oops! LoL! sorry gang... getting dingy(er) in my old age. thanks maurice. here's the real deal: http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=1502641 pat On Wed, 07 Mar 2001 15:47:08 MP123A321 wrote: >Pat, >that link you posted is an ebay item ashara is bidding on.nice mag, i got it. >Maurice Who needs Cupid? Matchmaker.com is the place to meet somebody. FREE Two-week Trial Membership at http://www.matchmaker.com/home?rs=200015 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 12:33:16 +1000 From: "P. Henry Boland" Subject: the gallery - corrected msg it shoulda said... there have been a few changes at the photopoint gallery. I am now using JM.com's bio chronology as a framework for posting the pics I have and I've just put up the first few albums if you'd like to take a look. pat http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=1502641 Who needs Cupid? Matchmaker.com is the place to meet somebody. FREE Two-week Trial Membership at http://www.matchmaker.com/home?rs=200015 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 21:53:50 EST From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: the gallery - corrected msg I'm there now looking, Nice job Pat. BTW today I was in Borders and bought Annie Leibovitz's Photography book on Women. There's a nice PIC of a more mature Joni in there. It's on two pages. She's known for her photo of Lennon Naked with Ono dressed. Rose in NJ rosemjoy@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 19:25:02 -0500 From: "Louis Lynch" Subject: ICQ Download -- Beware! Hi all! I've been missing from the list for a day. I tried to download the icq programs to join the chat. WARNING: It is not compatible with Windows NT. It blew my laptop to bits. I ended up buying a whole new hard drive at Staples. I needed an upgrade anyway, I guess. Maybe my new system will help me join the chat, but I'm going to have to wait a while until I rebuild everything. If anyone e-mailed me privately before Monday afternoon, I lost all my records. Please e-mail me again if it was important. Thanks, Blusterized and frusticated, but with better graphics now, Harper Lou ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 17:18:34 +1300 From: "hell" Subject: Re: "Official Business" Ashara wrote: > Yes, my friends, it's true!! After much teasing, taunting, and > tantalizing..... ANNOUNCING..... > > THE 4th (??Annual??) NEW ENGLAND LABOR DAY WEEKEND JONIFEST!!!!!! Gee, Evian must have gone straight to an overnight courier with that CD, huh?! Those 5 jmdlers who "weren't" in the chat room yesterday won't understand that reference, but everyone else will! That place gets very, very busy! Hell - depressed 'cos I just won't be able to afford Jonifest this year (but still considering my options - just in case!) ____________________________ "To have great poets, there must be great audiences too." - Walt Whitman hell@ihug.co.nz Visit the NBLs (Natural Born Losers) at: http://www.nbls.co.nz ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 23:31:33 EST From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: RIAA top 400 songs 347. "BIG YELLOW TAXI" JONI MITCHELL ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 20:41:59 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: New Jaco website Jaco's four children have recently created a web site at http://jacopastorius.com/home.shtml A lot of it is still "under construction" but there is a great discography section which includes bootlegs, but alas, no indication of the lost Mingus "demos." The site includes tributes from Pat Metheny, Peter Erskine, Wayne Shorter and others. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 01:24:13 -0500 From: "Louis Lynch" Subject: Lovely Chatting! Les, Thanks so much for instituting the chat room. What a thrill talking to Ashara, THE Kate Bennett, Coyote Rick and all! I KNEW this new computer was a good investment. Looking forward to another chat soon! Harper Lou ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #78 ******************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?